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On June 08 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2013 01:03 Stutters695 wrote:
Also oats you kept throwing my name around as part of a scum team with Ace, Rayne and then a random fourth. While I wasn't here you seemed to have stopped, why is that? cause it was for funzies For the record, it's this kind of shit that makes me have such a hard time analyzng Oats. He played this trolly, useless, at times tunnely style in Carnival Cruise and was town. Oats is definitely going to take me the longest.
No its not that sentence, its the fact that I like saying bullshit reads to irritate people.
Thats what makes it hard. Just go from the fact that You dont lynch the most vocal person in the thread, And lynch ACE INSTEAD.
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Vivax posted stuff about Sent. Interesting.
Lets analyse that.
If he is scum, he knows that he wasted his time. Is it worth it. Currently I dont feel that scum wouldve thought of the crazy scenario to call someone town.
So to answer your question kita, Im town on Vivax.
If Sent flips scum, reads change.
So interesting. For me, 2 people link on Sent.
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On June 08 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. Current Premise im operating under until Ace returns. He knew that if he were to just normally afk, HE WOULD GET LYNCHED, No doubt. 0. People were already turning to the idea of lynching Ace. So he busts out fake cop check to make sure I get lynched(Most fucking vocal person in the thread) And he doesnt die today.
Also when he gets me lynched. Oh miller, sorry guys.
ITS NOT A 1 for 1, and you guys need to stop thinking that way. Can you show me where you're getting this from? Serious question because I really never felt that anyone aside from you were considering lynching Ace.
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On June 08 2013 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 08 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2013 01:03 Stutters695 wrote:
Also oats you kept throwing my name around as part of a scum team with Ace, Rayne and then a random fourth. While I wasn't here you seemed to have stopped, why is that? cause it was for funzies For the record, it's this kind of shit that makes me have such a hard time analyzng Oats. He played this trolly, useless, at times tunnely style in Carnival Cruise and was town. Oats is definitely going to take me the longest. No its not that sentence, its the fact that I like saying bullshit reads to irritate people. Thats what makes it hard. Just go from the fact that You dont lynch the most vocal person in the thread, And lynch ACE INSTEAD.
Vocal doesn't mean shit if it's useless and trolly.
Now silence. I'm reading.
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On June 08 2013 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. Current Premise im operating under until Ace returns. He knew that if he were to just normally afk, HE WOULD GET LYNCHED, No doubt. 0. People were already turning to the idea of lynching Ace. So he busts out fake cop check to make sure I get lynched(Most fucking vocal person in the thread) And he doesnt die today.
Also when he gets me lynched. Oh miller, sorry guys.
ITS NOT A 1 for 1, and you guys need to stop thinking that way. Can you show me where you're getting this from? Serious question because I really never felt that anyone aside from you were considering lynching Ace.
I do remember other people warming up to the idea a little, me being one of them, that being said, Ace isn't the kind of person to freak out and fakeclaim because he's worried about being lynched that early.
(That's something I'd do lolololol)
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Kita, some people were warming up to the idea
Kita posted this just before deadline
On June 07 2013 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:I didn't have as much time as I had hoped to finish this post since I thought the deadline was an hour later, but I want to post it in case I get shot. My top two scum suspects are Ace and Sent currently. Everyone should role claim (I'm vanilla) Punish players if they offer bad alignment cop/medic/roleblocker selections. Ace had a poor showing day one, not bringing anything of value to the table. He was late to the rayn lynch and even tried to spook people away from the lynch in the final hours. What concerns me the most is that Ace wasn't applying his own views of rayn, he is characterizing whether or not the lynch is legitimate based on the collective reasoning. Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
highlighted in bold. I think it is the main reason people are voting rayne. It's a pretty solid line of reasoning. With this post, Ace establishes that there is a legitimate reason to vote rayn. Later on, he establishes the case from fuba as the argument that convinced him that rayn is scum. Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
If people are voting for him based on inactivity and not this case then yea we might be mislynching the guy. Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 07:11 Ace wrote:
For the remaining people voting for rayne do you believe he is really just inactive or just Scum? Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch. After an analysis of the votes, however Ace decides that rayn is a poor lynch. Why do the statements that Ace described as a solid line of reasoning no longer apply? If people are voting rayn for the wrong reasons, shouldn't he be convincing people to vote rayn for the right reasons, instead of trying to redirect the lynch? Even if Ace concluded that rayn was an inactivity lynch, concluding that it was a mislynch is a jump that is never adequately explained. An inactivity lynch can be valid if there is supporting evidence that the player is scum in the limited amount of posts they have. Ace never discusses rayn's posts, which should be the deciding factor when determining if the inactivity lynch is a mafia lynch or mislynch. From the previous game, where I was a scum buddy with rayn, I noticed that on day one, he put effort into scum to scum interaction, sending me a couple of softballs, that weren't really prompted. I wouldn't put much value into this observation, but I think his interaction with Ace and layabout most closely reflect this type of interaction.
Remember this?
So people were gearing up to lynch Ace, Ace thought this nails him, he fakeclaims redcheck on me, we end up here.
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On June 08 2013 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 08 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok. Current Premise im operating under until Ace returns. He knew that if he were to just normally afk, HE WOULD GET LYNCHED, No doubt. 0. People were already turning to the idea of lynching Ace. So he busts out fake cop check to make sure I get lynched(Most fucking vocal person in the thread) And he doesnt die today.
Also when he gets me lynched. Oh miller, sorry guys.
ITS NOT A 1 for 1, and you guys need to stop thinking that way. Can you show me where you're getting this from? Serious question because I really never felt that anyone aside from you were considering lynching Ace. I do remember other people warming up to the idea a little, me being one of them, that being said, Ace isn't the kind of person to freak out and fakeclaim because he's worried about being lynched that early. (That's something I'd do lolololol)
The thing is.
Fakeclaiming in this setup isnt risky.
LOL MILLER OOPS.
Yeah.
yeah.
I think its a perfectly legit mafia strat.
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I'm aware it's not a 1 for 1. If you end up being town it costs us 2 deaths. I think you're more likely to flip scum than Ace though currently.
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On June 08 2013 01:57 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm aware it's not a 1 for 1. If you end up being town it costs us 2 deaths. I think you're more likely to flip scum than Ace though currently.
Read Kita's case and sheep it please.
Why am I scum day 2 though? Explain.
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yea ace needs to get in here
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Kita, thoughts on huge post a few pages back where I say reads that arent Ace?
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Uh I went through and read oats other scum games and he does pretty much the same thing as this game, in ego he even tries to get Ace lynched there too
he asks people for their thoughts on a lot on his posts and spams questions. I hate using meta but I didn't really know what else to go off of.
##vote:oatsmaster
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kitaman27
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On June 08 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kita, thoughts on huge post a few pages back where I say reads that arent Ace?
You deserve a sticker.
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On June 08 2013 02:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
Uh I went through and read oats other scum games and he does pretty much the same thing as this game, in ego he even tries to get Ace lynched there too
he asks people for their thoughts on a lot on his posts and spams questions. I hate using meta but I didn't really know what else to go off of.
##vote:oatsmaster
except I do this in my town games too.
at least read both sides. Read bastard mafia
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On June 08 2013 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kita, thoughts on huge post a few pages back where I say reads that arent Ace? You deserve a sticker.
can you use your considerable influence to change the tide of this lynch?
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idk man in carnival you tried to lynch people that you actually thought were scum, whether it was vets or scrubs. You seem to have a build up in your town games that allows you to reach that point and vote where as in your scum games you're kinda just like THIS GUY IS SCUM and vote him and tunnel it.
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Especially strange since Ace had barely posted anything yet where as you make scum reads based off scummy posts in your town games
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You can't seriously expect a bastard game to be used to justify your play.
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kitaman27
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On June 08 2013 02:25 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 02:21 kitaman27 wrote:On June 08 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kita, thoughts on huge post a few pages back where I say reads that arent Ace? You deserve a sticker. can you use your considerable influence to change the tide of this lynch?
Generally I don't make a habit of convincing people to vote against me, but I'll consider it because of the <3.
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kitaman27
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By the way Oats, have you drawn any conclusions based on how anyone has reacted to the claim? Do you find it more scummy for a player to side with Ace in the majority or you in the minority?
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