EPTOn June 08 2013 02:28 Stutters695 wrote:
You can't seriously expect a bastard game to be used to justify your play.
You can't seriously expect a bastard game to be used to justify your play.
most recent town game dude.
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Oatsmaster
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most recent town game dude. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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That would include me, and layabout, I think. | ||
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Stutters695
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Did you think I was scum d1? If so do you still think so? If not what changed? | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On June 08 2013 02:34 kitaman27 wrote: By the way Oats, have you drawn any conclusions based on how anyone has reacted to the claim? Do you find it more scummy for a player to side with Ace in the majority or you in the minority? I think if I were scum, I would side with Ace. Because its not scummy, I have perfect reasoning which is cop check right? However. Everyone who has voted for me to be lynched, would you do this small favor of explaining why, without referring to the Cop check. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I mean assume I didnt get redchecked, what makes me scum. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On June 08 2013 02:42 Stutters695 wrote: Also instead of for funzies answer this: Did you think I was scum d1? If so do you still think so? If not what changed? I thought you were scum for voting for me, I dont think so anymore, because Ive read your filter, and i like your attack on Prp, and general activity and rayn lynch feels good. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Sentinel Leaning town on him. At the very least do not want to lynch today. It seems almost as though he knows a lot about what's going to happen before it does (ie Rayn flip, these quotes Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this. I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not. I'm looking to chalk this up to bad phrasing much of the time. Including his two scumslips. His switch to Ace seems like a genuine flip and offers good reasoning. I think Vivax is overthinking it in his post tbh. To me it just looks like Sent is constantly changing and re-evaluating his reads based on various tidbits of info. There's also the fact that once again I find it unlikely that two scum would jump on my wagon in quick succession one after the other. Yes, they could be playing independently but having played scum finally, I think I have an idea of the mindset and it just doesn't seem likely. The one thing that worries me is his..I dunno call it 'style, or attitude?' It's the kind of thing that reminds me of my early play, but whenever I've made a townread based on that I've been burned by it (Clarity and GiygaS in LXI). One example is his worry about being framed (not mafia role-framed, but framed into looking like mafia. This is something I always worry about, and it often happens to me as town) which I think may be legit considering Sloosh pointed him out and was killed promptly. In the end, yeah, townread. I'm curious as to his interaction with Oats and Rayn as they seemed really odd to me, but Sent did no defending of Rayn and has stuck with Oats throughout most of the game. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Null-leaning scum. I'm not sure I can push a lynch through today, doubt it's even a good idea to do so.Getting this stuff out there nonetheless. On June 08 2013 02:13 VayneAuthority wrote: Uh I went through and read oats other scum games and he does pretty much the same thing as this game, in ego he even tries to get Ace lynched there too he asks people for their thoughts on a lot on his posts and spams questions. I hate using meta but I didn't really know what else to go off of. ##vote:oatsmaster This coming from a guy who says On June 05 2013 01:29 VayneAuthority wrote: Don't really care for meta, guess you'll just have to find out once the start actually starts rolling So, you don't really care for meta when used on you, but you're ok to use it to back up a scumread about whom you haven't offered up any other evidence other than 'gutreads,' and 'percentages?' You set up this air every game about how people don't like your playstyle and they just have to 'deal with it.' You know town deals with it? We lynch you. Your townplay has been severely lacking in the games I've seen you play, and as I've mentioned before, you almost seem to put in more effort to look towny in your scum game. This is so backwards I don't even know what to think, because your shit play is anti-town yet looking at meta it makes you town, where your pro-town play is scum play so you can actively look towny and hide. I've asked numerous times; besides martyring yourself (scummy), making excuses for your bad reads, offering reads with absolutely nothing to back it up, and being generally belligerent, what is it you DO as town to help us win this game? It's like you don't give the town any option but to get rid of you and waste our time. I know I had a townread on you earlier based on the way you jumped on a dying lynch wagon (mine) but now that means you heavily defended a now-flipped scum as well. Zeph may have been right about you, and though based on our last game together I would think your scum play is better than to do what you did, maybe I'm wrong. You get zero pro-town points from me; the only reason I'm not sure you're scum is because part of me wants to give you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't play this blatantly awfully as scum. If you're town, for the love of god, DO SOMETHING. Gentlemen, keep your eyes on this one; I may yet be tempted to push this depending on how the day goes on and depending on what I find when I move onto Ace/Oats. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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WaveofShadow
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I want to hear more from fuba, and jay. I also wouldn't mind comments on my reads thus far if people show up, though I know better than to expect it. At least at some point if I get shot maybe then people will look at my reads. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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WaveofShadow
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Oatsmaster
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On June 08 2013 03:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Thanks for moving firmly into scumland Sent with that comment. Vayne is my number one scumread. If nearer to the end of the day the discussion remains ambiguous and I'm less certain of Ace being red, I'll push Vayne again. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
If Vayne is your #1 scumread then vote for him. We don't have to consolidate yet; if you are more sure of a Vayne redflip than an Ace redflip then why would you vote Ace and not push Vayne like crazy? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414632¤tpage=38#760 | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Dont derail this. If you derail this, its scummy. Dont do it | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 08 2013 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Heh I actually agree w/ Oats on that last one. The only scenerio in which I can imagine scum Ace lying about Oats is if Sent is also scum and they decided to take a huge gamble becuase Sent looked like he was headed towards a noose today. Sent planting seeds that he may not vote for Ace worries me.lol Sent I was about to say I have no idea why Oats thought your post was scummy | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On June 08 2013 03:50 Oatsmaster wrote: We are lynching Ace cause he fakeclaimed a red check on me. Dont derail this. If you derail this, its scummy. Dont do it I'm not derailing shit Oats, I've outlined my plan for the day and sticking with it, along with attempting to keep up discussion at the same time. I am not discounting you or Ace in the process. There is absolutely nothing scummy about what I am doing. | ||
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VayneAuthority
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