Roulette Mini Mafia - Page 23

You don't. But I'd think you'd @ least somewhat suspect us if we're trying to save your scumread from being lynched by voting for someone you know is town (yourself).

I've mentioned stuff and so have other people. I mean, you've had several votes on you. Why do you think that is? I don't want to post a case against you because I don't think you're the best lynch today. But you're a better lynch than rayn.

I voted Oats, posted my case against him, and responded to his rebuttal. What else should I do? Spam the thread?

I already explained re:Vayne why just because you vote me to 'save my scumread' it doesn't necessarily make you scum.
'Stuff?' Does not compute JJD. Anything people have voted me for has been explained in great detail either by me or others. Care to explain why you still find me scummy? I've also already explained why there have been votes on me as well.

If I'm not the best lynch today then you have no excuses. Push your goddamn target. When was the last time you said anything about Oats? People probably forgot all about him. Honestly, you're digging yourself a hole here. The fact that you continue to stand by your shit reasoning looks worse to me than Vayne having none.

I want one of two things right now:
You're either voting for me and providing ample reasoning for it, or you admit you were wrong about me and you continue to push Oats. Your play does not support anything else right now.

Vivax

21682 Posts

June 05 2013 18:34 GMT

#443

On June 06 2013 03:33 VayneAuthority wrote:

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And people called my gut read on prp bullshit and he was scum, nuff said

So did they call my case shit when I wanted to lynch him D1.
I don't recall you being one of the supporters.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

June 05 2013 18:35 GMT

#444

On June 06 2013 03:33 VayneAuthority wrote:

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And people called my gut read on prp bullshit and he was scum, nuff said

Vayne I don't give a shit about D1 gutreads. There has been plenty of activity in the thread thus far, and unless the entire scumteam is lurking right now (possible, I know) then we should be able to find one WITH reasoning.

This isn't epicmafia; we actually put forth effort on D1.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

June 05 2013 18:35 GMT

#445

On June 06 2013 03:34 Vivax wrote:

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So did they call my case shit when I wanted to lynch him D1.
I don't recall you being one of the supporters.

Then you need to reread the game lol. We died the same day and all i got to do was push a prphlz lynch and have VE and other scum try to frame me. Im a good target for that so anyone trying to get me lynched is pretty suspicious.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

June 05 2013 18:36 GMT

#446

On June 06 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:

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and I don't give a shit about long posts that are wrong, to each their own

Vivax

21682 Posts

June 05 2013 18:38 GMT

#447

Anyway, we're drifting off.

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Your mom is still fat

Vayne, what are the odds for you lynching Fuba is all that's there to witness his scumminess are your guts? Do you want us to spill them?

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

June 05 2013 18:39 GMT

#448

On June 06 2013 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote:

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Then you need to reread the game lol. We died the same day and all i got to do was push a prphlz lynch and have VE and other scum try to frame me. Im a good target for that so anyone trying to get me lynched is pretty suspicious.

Hey this sounds familiar. You use this reasoning yet this same thing happened to me in the same game where they killed Kita and scum were trying to do something with it because in Kita's like 2 posts he mentioned me.

Am I not allowed to use the same reasoning here to find a scumread? There were 4 people on that wagon trying to get me lynched and Rayn is one of them.

You get into these fights almost every game with people here; I just don't understand how they must play on epicmafia. Does everybody just post random bullshit and hope they find scum based on luck alone? Or sit back and hope other people do the analysis for you? Explain what it is you DO here, Vayne.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

June 05 2013 18:40 GMT

#449

If you don't want to vote him I really don't care. Go ahead and lynch rayn and then have people be on your ass when he flips green. Going to the gym now

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

June 05 2013 18:42 GMT

#450

On June 06 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Well, I don't write long posts that are wrong hopefully that narrows it down. I come from a psychology background, not an english background.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

June 05 2013 18:46 GMT

#451

On June 06 2013 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:

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Well, I don't write long posts that are wrong hopefully that narrows it down. I come from a psychology background, not an english background.

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On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:
@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird.

On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:

On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
Hey!
I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline.

And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this:

On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.

What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open.

His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look:

On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.

I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.

First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction.

I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons.

But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away:

On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.

As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions.
So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself.

On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.

Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one.

I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town.

Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy.

I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey.

if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further.
what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino?

its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons.

1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence...

2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing.

3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this.

4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion.

If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well.

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Oh rearry?
Was Spicy scum in this game? I forget.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

June 05 2013 18:48 GMT

#452

Targe was, ironically my first gut read in that game too. So every game I have been town on this site my first gut read is correct, sheep me!

JK going to gym for real now
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WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

June 05 2013 18:48 GMT

#453

Here's the thing Vayne.
You don't have to write long posts that are right or wrong, but you have to do something useful if you actually care about winning this game as town.

If you're scum then continue to play as you are, I guess.

Vivax, if you had to lynch someone other than Rayn, who would it be?
Sentinel?

Stutters695

2610 Posts

June 05 2013 18:49 GMT

#454

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girlfriend was naked and rolling around on the floor.
Friend was naked because he had pissed himself on my rug while his boyfriend ran and jumped into the pond to go swimming.
Other friend shit himself and the fourth guy threw a beer into my neighbors face who laughed it off.

My trip was really uneventful by comparison, but goddamn. shrooms, not even once

On topic Rayn seems like a good lynch.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

June 05 2013 18:51 GMT

#455

Hmmm, I'm not changing my vote, and I have little to add to the actual discussion, but this nonchalance from vayne is actually making me lean town on him. Kind of the same thing I thought about freyllt in doctor who.

mkfuba07

United States1151 Posts

June 05 2013 18:52 GMT

#456

On June 06 2013 03:49 Stutters695 wrote:
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On topic Rayn seems like a good lynch.

Is it weird that this kind of makes me want to try shrooms *more*?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43188 Posts

June 05 2013 18:59 GMT

#457

Im honestly not sure who i do want to lynch.

I know i do not want to lynch prpl, Stutters or Oats.

Im still at work for ~2h, i hope i can convince you then (probably not, as i have and will be busy for a week still). If you can't find real scum, lynch me, as i doubt i can meet your expectations with my level of activity, as my play revolves around my interactions with other ppl. I'll prolly be a liability close to lylo (or @lylo) so.. Yeah..

I'll be back.

JarJarDrinks

United States1302 Posts

June 05 2013 19:03 GMT

#458

On June 06 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
If I'm not the best lynch today then you have no excuses. Push your goddamn target. When was the last time you said anything about Oats? People probably forgot all about him. Honestly, you're digging yourself a hole here. The fact that you continue to stand by your shit reasoning looks worse to me than Vayne having none.

I want one of two things right now:
You're either voting for me and providing ample reasoning for it, or you admit you were wrong about me and you continue to push Oats. Your play does not support anything else right now.

You're being ridiculous. I posted my Oats case. There's not much else I can add and I'm not gonna spam the same shit over and over. And like I said, I'll vote for you if comes down to a race between you and someone I think is less scummy.

jaybrundage

United States3921 Posts

June 05 2013 19:03 GMT

#459

I find it interesting that when SlOosh put forth two candidates that he thought might be scum. Everyone went straight for rayn and Sentinel was barly even mentioned. Looking at his filter its pretty short. With some botchy reasoning (if any)

He backs off Wos and then goes for Oats. Completely ignoring the hotly controversial rayn. He doesnt do much. Why is everyone giving him a free pass?

Looking at rayn hes not doing much better activity wise. He says he is working 12 hour days it makes sense for his lack of activity but we have no way to know that for sure. I liked his point about Wos taking Vivax at face value and how him taking Vivax's word for it was scummy. But then later Wos said he was being sarcastic. If your being sarcastic just put a /sarcasm. It would save some time and make things clearer. Its easy to go back on something and say Oh i didnt mean that or oh i was being sarcastic.

I dont feel Wos is scummy atm he has been pretty active and while some things strike me as off. I dont like him as our lynch candidate today.

S0lstice hasn't posted at all since I have tried to get him lynched. Does anyone want to lynch him. He has keept of the radar pretty well?

BY JAY :D
I think fuba would be my next bet. I see him finally going after vayne after all that bit about playing normally and what not. Vayne while not being a great contributor. Fuba has played wtih vayne a little bit as a scum suspect. But in the end decided fuck it lets just follow the flow and jumps on Rayn.

Note the reason he gives is because rayn has a town read on Vayne. So instead of lynching vayne who he has been playing with for a while. He just jumps on rayn because he is starting to roll as a wagon. He includes some reason as rayn seeing vayne as a town read for a wierd reason. If rayn just said he had a gut read on Vayne would that be better? Its a convoluted reason imo. I dont see the real reason for the switch from vayne to rayn.

I like Vayne's honestly with saying that he has a town read on rayn so he will not lynch him and is putting all his chips in one basket. I dont think mafia would go so hard against the current.

With all that being said. I think we should lynch Fuba today.

damn so many tabs open XD

Sorry for giant wall of txt ill put a picture in or something

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

June 05 2013 19:05 GMT

#460

Rayn are you setting me up for the fall here? Of all your scumreads you fail to mention me at all except once in passing.

If you flip red, this behavior would make perfect sense. Pretty much guarantee a mislynch to go through the next day.

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