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Blazinghand
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:08 Blazinghand wrote: Despite what's been said, I think we shoudl claim move speeds. On the one hand, it gives angels information, but on the other, angels can see who we are anyways they'll figure it out anyways from watching us move during the first night, right? Whoever claims their speed isn't giving scum info they won't find out immediately anyways, so... I have speed 5 Only if we move at fullspeed, which we don't have to at all. So I don't particularly see the benefit of doing so right now. | ||
Blazinghand
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote: our goal should be to get close to each other and shine flashlights to identify angels, right? I'm assuming vigi and DT powers work like angel feeding-- that is to say, reliant on the board to operate I'm not sure. Like, is it good for everyone to come together? Or maybe it's good, once people figure out who they are, for people to pair off in 2s? Is there a benefit to any particular size of congregation of players? | ||
Blazinghand
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
.... ok that thought process stopped, mafia in groups of 2 can fakeclaim. Maybe 4 groups of 3? | ||
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote: our goal should be to get close to each other and shine flashlights to identify angels, right? I'm assuming vigi and DT powers work like angel feeding-- that is to say, reliant on the board to operate Why is this beneficial? When we all come closer together, it gets easier for angels to get right next to townies. If anything, we should first try to figure out who we are on the board before just trying to move blindly to the center. The goal has to be to shine at angels from a safe distance, not get right next to everybody else. | ||
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:19 marvellosity wrote: What about the idea of 6 pairs of 2, all as far away from each other on the board as possible? Angels need to feed multiple times, so keeping people apart from each other, but in a fashion where everyone can identify whether someone else is town or not........ .... ok that thought process stopped, mafia in groups of 2 can fakeclaim. Maybe 4 groups of 3? We need to find a middle ground. Not too far away and not too close. We want to be able to help other townies by slowing down angels so they can't reach us. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:19 phagga wrote: Why is this beneficial? When we all come closer together, it gets easier for angels to get right next to townies. If anything, we should first try to figure out who we are on the board before just trying to move blindly to the center. The goal has to be to shine at angels from a safe distance, not get right next to everybody else. yeah i'm pretty sure you can't really shine at angels from a safe distance. maybe this is just me but it seems like our flashlights have pretty short range. in terms of angels feeding on people, I'm fairly sure they're just gonna run up to us and start doing it anyways. If we all like delta split then it's possible if the angels are all in one place it'll slow them down a bit, but I don't think this is a good way of doing things, especially with the angles controlling fake players. I guess it really depends on how fast angels move. If they are slow (2 or 3 move) then we should split up to slow down the feeding process. i suspect, (and this would make sense from a balance perspective too), that they are fast and we'll suffer from one feed per night basically regardless unless our various PRs can do their thing. our flashlights and vision are short range. I bet PRs work the same way. apart, we are weak, but together, we are strong. | ||
phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:22 Blazinghand wrote: yeah i'm pretty sure you can't really shine at angels from a safe distance. maybe this is just me but it seems like our flashlights have pretty short range. in terms of angels feeding on people, I'm fairly sure they're just gonna run up to us and start doing it anyways. If we all like delta split then it's possible if the angels are all in one place it'll slow them down a bit, but I don't think this is a good way of doing things, especially with the angles controlling fake players. I guess it really depends on how fast angels move. If they are slow (2 or 3 move) then we should split up to slow down the feeding process. i suspect, (and this would make sense from a balance perspective too), that they are fast and we'll suffer from one feed per night basically regardless unless our various PRs can do their thing. our flashlights and vision are short range. I bet PRs work the same way. apart, we are weak, but together, we are strong. I'm not sure how I feel about all this. I'll have to think about it because it makes my brain hurt already. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:23 phagga wrote: ok, so basically what we could do is we give everyone a direction and a moving speed for next night. We'd only need MS 1-3 and all four directions. Even if mafia fucks with us, we still get 6 people clearly identified on the board. Then we could work from there. How does that sound? Why doesn't everyone just do their own thing, and we could possibly have everyone identified? Or lots of people at least? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:23 phagga wrote: ok, so basically what we could do is we give everyone a direction and a moving speed for next night. We'd only need MS 1-3 and all four directions. Even if mafia fucks with us, we still get 6 people clearly identified on the board. Then we could work from there. How does that sound? Maybe we should all claim our movement patterns JUST before the lynch happens. Mafia won't have time to send in imitation movements between our claim and the day ending. This would probably be the best way for us to identify ourselves on the game board. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:23 marvellosity wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about all this. I'll have to think about it because it makes my brain hurt already. fair enough | ||
marvellosity
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:22 Blazinghand wrote: yeah i'm pretty sure you can't really shine at angels from a safe distance. maybe this is just me but it seems like our flashlights have pretty short range. in terms of angels feeding on people, I'm fairly sure they're just gonna run up to us and start doing it anyways. If we all like delta split then it's possible if the angels are all in one place it'll slow them down a bit, but I don't think this is a good way of doing things, especially with the angles controlling fake players. I guess it really depends on how fast angels move. If they are slow (2 or 3 move) then we should split up to slow down the feeding process. i suspect, (and this would make sense from a balance perspective too), that they are fast and we'll suffer from one feed per night basically regardless unless our various PRs can do their thing. our flashlights and vision are short range. I bet PRs work the same way. apart, we are weak, but together, we are strong. Well, if one person is shining on an angel directly others can slow the angel down too if its in their greater view (see google doc pages 2 and 3. But the problem will be to coordinate this properly (mainly if the first town finds an angel, will there be enough time for another to come help the angle slow down before the angel feeds on the first townie). Regarding claiming movement right before deadline, I just fear that several people might move in the same direction with the same speed. Hence the idea that we try to assign low MS and directions to get 12 unique moving patterns. Of course, the problem then might be that mafia tries to manipulate it to get close to townies fast. I need to sleep over this. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:34 phagga wrote: if we know who the angel is, yes. ah. yes. thinking about it... hopefully we should do. everyone figures out their letter and claims it, i guess mafia won't duplicate a townie's? so they could only letter shift between themselves. probably mafia will claim their own letters? | ||
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