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On April 22 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar could you or someone else like Ace come in and tell these idiots why claiming miller at the start of the game is either scummy or extremely dumb.
Self aware miller claims are good for Town - if we know the rolecounts or had a good way to sort out future claims. In this game we don't so what Bill Murray allegedly did would be dumb. But we have to wait till he shows up to do anything.
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Sharrant I had thought the same thing about Ace in the past but the past few games as town he has done the exact same thing. Null to me.
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On April 22 2013 08:14 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar could you or someone else like Ace come in and tell these idiots why claiming miller at the start of the game is either scummy or extremely dumb. So, we're back to you wanting to lynch BM as a policy because he claimed miller? Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:09 Ace wrote:On April 22 2013 07:24 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 06:45 Ace wrote: @Sharrant: RN looks like a noobie to me. I see. I am assuming this to be you saying he looks like a noobie town then, yes? Or are you saying he seems new, and null? Is there someone you would be comfortable with lynching right this second (aside from Bill Murray)? Is there someone you would recommend looking into? newbie and null. Not interested in lynching anyone specific at the moment. I'm just sitting back reading and will see what happens. I'm a little wary of you sitting back, I've heard you generally take a less active role as scum. What do you think of Rayn right now?
I dont know why people keep saying that. I've got more than 30 games on this forum behaving all kinds of ways. My activity depends on how I feel, what I see, and how active other players are.
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added: Rayn is impulsive and tunnel like from my experience in the last game I played with him. Not really good at reading what people say without bias. Doesn't make him scum yet, but is definitely a negative if he keeps doing it as Townies should learn at some point.
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On April 22 2013 08:20 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:14 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar could you or someone else like Ace come in and tell these idiots why claiming miller at the start of the game is either scummy or extremely dumb. So, we're back to you wanting to lynch BM as a policy because he claimed miller? On April 22 2013 08:09 Ace wrote:On April 22 2013 07:24 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 06:45 Ace wrote: @Sharrant: RN looks like a noobie to me. I see. I am assuming this to be you saying he looks like a noobie town then, yes? Or are you saying he seems new, and null? Is there someone you would be comfortable with lynching right this second (aside from Bill Murray)? Is there someone you would recommend looking into? newbie and null. Not interested in lynching anyone specific at the moment. I'm just sitting back reading and will see what happens. I'm a little wary of you sitting back, I've heard you generally take a less active role as scum. What do you think of Rayn right now? I dont know why people keep saying that. I've got more than 30 games on this forum behaving all kinds of ways. My activity depends on how I feel, what I see, and how active other players are.
Ah, I see. It's just something I've heard brought up so many times I thought it was true. As you were, but I'm hoping you'll post something awesome today.
QUOTE]On April 22 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Sharrant I had thought the same thing about Ace in the past but the past few games as town he has done the exact same thing. Null to me.[/QUOTE]
Good to know, thank you.
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The questions addressed to Marv or some other one? I haven't seen a serious question to me worth answering bish. Why are you so afraid that I'm 3p?
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On April 22 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sharrant let's end this incredibly useless shit about the policy lynch. I have told the thread why i'm voting for BM, and i'm expecting him to answer me regarding that. We are getting nowhere before we hear from him and this is really useless. Call my vote a policy lynch vote or whatever, i really don't care before BM comes in and answers. I have only talked about policy lynch stuff when other people have brought that topic up.
No, I want to sort this out. If you answer this for me satisfactorily, I will give you a reprieve for a bit.
What is your exact reasoning for voting for BM. Give me one paragraph, with your thought process. If it's policy, tell me it's policy and the exact policy. If you have other reasoning for it, please detail that reasoning to the best of your ability.
I will be reading and cooking for a while. I know this is a Sunday, but I would really like more people to be active. There's 25 people in this game, and honestly it feels like a mini to me. Thank you to the people who are being active.
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On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you?
Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case.
Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town?
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Sharrant:
What is your exact reasoning for voting for BM. Give me one paragraph, with your thought process. If it's policy, tell me it's policy and the exact policy. If you have other reasoning for it, please detail that reasoning to the best of your ability. I think there is no reason for a townie to claim miller for the reasons i explained before. If BM was not in fact claiming miller, he should have a damn good reason why he decided to post what he did, because posting (joking?) that as town does not make any sense.
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On April 22 2013 08:25 getmoript wrote: The questions addressed to Marv or some other one? I haven't seen a serious question to me worth answering bish. Why are you so afraid that I'm 3p? Get your own fake swear.
On April 22 2013 03:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh hokay. Makes sense. So marv can I count on the fact that your first major scumread will almost certainly be town? You usually have pretty good insight into Palm's doings, what's your take on him thus far? You mention that you don't want to lynch him but don't state why. Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are.
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On April 22 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you? Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case. Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town? Objection, leading the witness! Seriously though Vivax, this question is stupid. If I'm not confirmed town then of course it's possible for me to be scum. What exactly is your agenda here?
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On April 22 2013 06:23 Ace wrote: Palmar what do you think our main plans of action should be right now? Besides what seems like posturing and prodding by some people, I think waiting on Bill Murray to get back is our best option.
Agree/Disagree/Don't Care?
I don't think we need to suspend other activity to get the Bill Murray situation sorted out, because there are certain parameters it's solution is going to take that greatly affect the outcome. I think it's beneficial to ignore Bill Murray himself until he clarifies what he meant, and I also think it's very beneficial to move forward with other discussions as we wait.
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On April 22 2013 08:08 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:04 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote: Rayn, how's it going read-wise? Picked up anything else besides BM? I currently have 8 candidates as possible scum, you? lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy? Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now. ##Vote: Getmoript So the fact that I've been avoiding you is scummy? Explain or die. Geript, WaveofShadow, both of you get on target here. You can return to your little slap fight afterwards if you want, but read the last few pages. Look at the cases on Rayne, and look at his filter. Then put your votes where they belong, and comment. For saying that you want to see more out of BM today before you make a decision, you sure aren't interested in having BM pressured whatsoever. That makes absolutely 0 sense to me. Why do that? What's the point? Where is your line of thinking here? You're pressuring Rayn for doing something that he feels is likely to force BM to post more or provide a read. I think your 'case' is shit. Quite frankly, I don't see what's wrong about talking about policy or anything else. Nothing that you've said is damning. The real question is why are you trying to sell your pile of shit like it's anything other than a pile of shit? Explain.
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WoS, do you feel that geript not answering why he gave Palmar a townread justifies him being scum?
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On April 22 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you? Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case. Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town? I'm gonna look more into Oats tomorrow when i wake up.
Atm i'm leaning more onto WoS being town, mainly because afaik he has never rolled scum (at least before this game) and him claiming town in his early post reads out genuine to me. But that being said:
I want to hear more from CC or kush at the moment. WoS: Why do you want to hear more specifically from those guys?
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On April 22 2013 08:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are. He's making sense and thus more likely to be town. If he doesn't die by night 2 I'll look into that read further. I just see very little point in trying to get a read on a player who I have little actual experience with and never had a very serious read on either way, seems to have a history of variable activity, and is likely to be a target of an NK if town. If he dies, then I'll dive him. If he doesn't, then I'll likely try to lynch him. It's not worth the effort and so long as he's making sense I don't see a point in not sheeping him.
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On April 22 2013 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Sharrant:Show nested quote +What is your exact reasoning for voting for BM. Give me one paragraph, with your thought process. If it's policy, tell me it's policy and the exact policy. If you have other reasoning for it, please detail that reasoning to the best of your ability. I think there is no reason for a townie to claim miller for the reasons i explained before. If BM was not in fact claiming miller, he should have a damn good reason why he decided to post what he did, because posting (joking?) that as town does not make any sense.
I see. I'll wait until Bill Murray is back in the thread before I say anything more about this then, if I feel the need to say anything more.
Let's give ourselves another topic then. Pick a player who you would like to discuss with me, and I will read their filter while I cook and eat. I would suggest Mr. Cheesecake, but I would prefer it if you picked the candidate for discussion.
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On April 22 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:31 Vivax wrote:On April 22 2013 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax what makes Oats scummy to you? Mostly meta differences between his town and scum play. You'll hear the exact reasons once I feel like making a case. Could you see WoS being scum or do you feel safe in assuming he's town? I'm gonna look more into Oats tomorrow when i wake up. Atm i'm leaning more onto WoS being town, mainly because afaik he has never rolled scum (at least before this game) and him claiming town in his early post reads out genuine to me. But that being said: WoS: Why do you want to hear more specifically from those guys? lol this is a terrible reason for not thinking I'm scum but whatever. CC because of his scumread on Geript; especially since it was before the 'mod-confirmed' horseshit, I want to see if he changes his mind.
Kush for similar reasons since he threw a vote on geript as well right before the 'confirmation' and right after agreed that this confirms geript as town without removing his vote. Want to gain some insight into his thoughts processes as well regarding his townreads.
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Palmar what would you prefer as the "other discussions" you are referring to in your last post?
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Just for the record I would be pretty heavily leaning scum on geript if it wasn't for the QT thing.
The most alarming thing is not actually the random town-read on me, but his explanation of sylencia's alignment:
Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then
When this read was made Sylencia had posted the following:
On April 21 2013 17:11 Sylencia wrote: I would kill to be something other than a VT, but hey.
On April 21 2013 18:04 Sylencia wrote:Seems like a bad idea to me. PS: Anyone who tries to analyse my first post in the future is dumb.
On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote: You seem a little too nervous about my post.
Maybe you are a good person to kill. Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol
This "read" is based on absolutely nothing, and whether or not Sylencia is a noob has almost nothing to do with his read. I don't understand this read and why on earth it's part of his "analysis".
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