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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#561
Vivax, when i still remember. I went through Oats' openings in Ego (scum) and Red (town) and tried comparing his meta to this game. I have to say i'm not seeing any significant differences in his scum/town play this early. I'm hoping you will contribute to that matter later on D1 (if you are not willing to make a case yet).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 00:07 GMT
#562
On April 22 2013 09:03 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?


I am treating him the same as everyone else. As I stated, I am willfully ignoring everything involving the hydra, Marv, and BH's mod actions.

If he is incredibly scummy why are you not voting for him?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
April 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#563
Recap: Rayn would lynch hopeless.

Sharrant, can you look at hopeless?

Let me summarize his play so far: Attempts to stop people from getting townreads, agreeing with Kush on geript being town cause of marv.

Basically, he started the game with a rather odd question. I don't think it's a prime interest for town to ask someone to expand on his townreads, especially at that early stage in the game.

Why, you ask? Scum doesn't want townreads between townies, town doesn't care about townreads unless it concerns one of their scumreads, and neither me nor Palmar seemed to look scummy to hopeless, so I don't see his motivation for asking that question except for looking like he's doing something or let us talk about secondary stuf
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 22 2013 00:10 GMT
#564
On April 22 2013 09:06 GiygaS wrote:
First, my name is spelled GiygaS, not GIYIGAS.


my name is spelled asdehfejnbfj NOT asdehfeitnkjf WTF GUIZ!!!
seriously if you name yourself some random letters, no one is going to spell your name right. so tired of people complaining about this. it is your own fault!
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 22 2013 00:14 GMT
#565
On April 22 2013 09:10 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:06 GiygaS wrote:
First, my name is spelled GiygaS, not GIYIGAS.


my name is spelled asdehfejnbfj NOT asdehfeitnkjf WTF GUIZ!!!
seriously if you name yourself some random letters, no one is going to spell your name right. so tired of people complaining about this. it is your own fault!

It's the main antagonist in Earthbound. He even has a wikipedia article.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 22 2013 00:15 GMT
#566
On April 22 2013 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:03 Sharrant wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?


I am treating him the same as everyone else. As I stated, I am willfully ignoring everything involving the hydra, Marv, and BH's mod actions.

If he is incredibly scummy why are you not voting for him?


As I stated, I am currently cooking myself food, I have not yet completely come back to the game. When I read through his filter again, I will decide if my previous judgement of him being incredibly scummy stands, or whether he is townie. I quite explicitly stated that the point I have considered him a suspect from was only a few minutes ago, and that I have been busy.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#567
On April 22 2013 09:08 Vivax wrote:
Recap: Rayn would lynch hopeless.

Sharrant, can you look at hopeless?

Let me summarize his play so far: Attempts to stop people from getting townreads, agreeing with Kush on geript being town cause of marv.

Basically, he started the game with a rather odd question. I don't think it's a prime interest for town to ask someone to expand on his townreads, especially at that early stage in the game.

Why, you ask? Scum doesn't want townreads between townies, town doesn't care about townreads unless it concerns one of their scumreads, and neither me nor Palmar seemed to look scummy to hopeless, so I don't see his motivation for asking that question except for looking like he's doing something or let us talk about secondary stuf



I will give his filter a read shortly, there's a few I have to go through so it will take some time. Except it some time after I have finished supper.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2013 00:23 GMT
#568
On April 22 2013 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Defend against what? Why can't he have a townread on Palmar and know he's not going to be active as town and sheep a townread? I'm going to be in Vegas for 4 days next weekend and I'll be playing in a similar fashion (if I live that long) and I'm town, that seems feasible enough. Has he said he's not going to be active?

He's here now and you're not asking him anything. You're whole reasoning is bullshit.

Palmar, what do you make of this?

Writer@WriterYamato
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#569
On April 22 2013 09:14 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:10 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 GiygaS wrote:
First, my name is spelled GiygaS, not GIYIGAS.


my name is spelled asdehfejnbfj NOT asdehfeitnkjf WTF GUIZ!!!
seriously if you name yourself some random letters, no one is going to spell your name right. so tired of people complaining about this. it is your own fault!

It's the main antagonist in Earthbound. He even has a wikipedia article.


no one gives a shit giggles.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#570
On April 22 2013 09:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:14 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2013 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Defend against what? Why can't he have a townread on Palmar and know he's not going to be active as town and sheep a townread? I'm going to be in Vegas for 4 days next weekend and I'll be playing in a similar fashion (if I live that long) and I'm town, that seems feasible enough. Has he said he's not going to be active?

He's here now and you're not asking him anything. You're whole reasoning is bullshit.

Palmar, what do you make of this?



nothing. Can you guide me along if I'm meant to make something out of it?
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2013 00:25 GMT
#571
I don't know, it seemed a little weird that he read that much into me posting.
Writer@WriterYamato
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 22 2013 00:27 GMT
#572
VE is to me one of the easiest people to read in this game. Not worried enough about him to spend time wondering about stuff like that.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2013 00:28 GMT
#573
And then subsequently got aggressive with geript over it like people are SUPPOSED to read that much into my posting, which was intentionally bad.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
April 22 2013 00:29 GMT
#574
what happened to sheeping palmar?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 22 2013 00:29 GMT
#575
On April 22 2013 09:27 Palmar wrote:
VE is to me one of the easiest people to read in this game. Not worried enough about him to spend time wondering about stuff like that.

yeah, I guess.

It was just something odd I noticed from the earlier posts.
Writer@WriterYamato
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
April 22 2013 00:34 GMT
#576
As per usual, at work at the moment, I only skim read but I hope I can properly catch up once I get home tonight.

On April 22 2013 05:17 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:
On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote:
You seem a little too nervous about my post.

Maybe you are a good person to kill.


Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol

Sylencia this post makes you sound nervous. The structure of the sentence, as normally seen in literature, makes it look like you are hiding something.

You seem to have let this drop off rather casually, as did Yamato. IMO the early prod of you on Yamato's part worked because you have demonstrated here that you are possibly hiding something. Your second post says to disregard your first, so all I have to go on from you is that you are nervous.

So are you hiding the fact that you are scum? Or are you hiding that you haven't a clue what is going on? Please explain thoroughly your opinion on at least two players so I can learn about you. Your filter is too scummy to ignore.


You think that if I was hiding something I would make it so blatantly obvious that I was nervous? This isn't a real time conversation where I have 10 seconds to come up with a response. Anyone can take time to craft a response that makes them seem like whatever they want to, so trying to read into someone's emotions based on their response (unless it's in the middle of some heated argument) isn't going to get you anywhere.

So to answer your questions, no I'm not, and at the time there was less than 1 page of discussion, of course there wasn't any idea as to what was going on yet. Won't be diving into reading people deeply until I get home tonight. If you think that's scummy you can look at my past games and look at every other game I've played in recent times and compare posting times.

(In any case I'm only on page 25 or so and I don't think I'll get much further while here)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 00:35 GMT
#577
GiygaS:
Could you go through Hopeless' & Sharrant's filters and give your thoughts about them?
table for two on a tv tray
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#578
Hopeless:
From what I got, there's only really one thing against him. One was that he didn't understand how VE was "confirmed", and therefore had to be mafia somehow. While I don't actually agree with that accusation, his defense here:
On April 22 2013 01:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX

I already did though!
VE town
CC town
Hopeless scum

2/3, not bad. owaitshit

makes me a bit doubtful. He then ACTUALLY went in to the ridiculousness of the accusation by blazinghand 20 minutes later, which sort of clears that suspicion out for me.

Basically, there's no reason for me to think he's scum. Gonna start working on Sharrant now.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 22 2013 01:00 GMT
#579
Sharrant:
Actually seems very pro-town to me. He's not afraid to give out his analysis and thoughts. He was one of the first to get the discussion productive again by dissuading it from BM, and he hasn't given me any reason to suspect him.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 22 2013 01:06 GMT
#580
Okay. Next question:
On April 22 2013 09:06 GiygaS wrote:
Oats still seems scummy to me. His attitude around that accusation is weird to me, plus he was actively trying to dissuade a town read that VE had instead of actively hunting for scum. His one scum post was against geript, which we now know is pseudo-confirmed :/

I want to see some more posts from him , but until then ##Vote Oatsmaster.


As this was your last post before that, the part where you mention Oats:
#2: I honestly don't know what to think of this strange heuristic thing, and I'm honestly more interested to see how oats responds to Palmar, and how Palmar responds to that. I'm overall getting a town-read on Vivax since as Cheesecake said, recklessness is usually a town trait.It's a pretty weak town read, but I just want to get out of this stupid argument that is really getting us nowhere now.


What made you vote for Oats now but not before? What has changed between these posts of yours?
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