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On April 22 2013 10:44 ShiaoPi wrote:@ObviousOne: Which post are you referring to? This one: + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2013 14:20 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 13:56 Ace wrote:
*looks at player list*
*shakes head in a bored way knowing he will lynch Bill Murray with ease Day 1* but but....he is EVIL??!!! or this one: + Show Spoiler +On March 25 2013 17:59 ShiaoPi wrote:I actually wanted to /in but then I saw grush and BM in the playerlist.....not again...never again.../obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too  Still got shittons of catching up to do, just saw that as I scrolled over the last page
ShiaoPi, at your earliest possible convenience I would like you to tell me how you feel about Raynepelikoneet, TheRavensName, Hopeless1nder, and one person of your choosing.
I'll accept as low as one sentence on the first 3, but whoever you choose I'd like you to write something of decent size about.
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On April 22 2013 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:33 GiygaS wrote:On April 22 2013 10:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is me being 'wrong' make me scummy giygas.
Also was me asking VE what made Palmar town trying to dissuade a town read, or trying to solidify my read?
What is the difference and why does that make me scummy? You being 'wrong' isn't really anything against you, I just figured I might as well add it in. Actively trying to spread suspicion by stopping town reads is what scum wants to do. When I read it it seemed to me that you wanted to dissuade a town read.On April 22 2013 10:21 kushm4sta wrote:
Giygas as your self appointed lawyer I must remind you that you do not have to answer any of these questions, as you have not yet been charged with a crime. Thanks kush, haha. The bolded part. How did you miss that's exactly what Hopeless is doing?
I actually don't know how the hell I missed that. (For those wondering, the part is in bold.
Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:On April 22 2013 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:@palmar's read on vivax: + Show Spoiler +On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while. I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today. Discuss. "Absurd" I agree with. "Strange value" however...could you expand on how his heuristic is useful at discerning OTHER people's alignment, because I don't see it. I would like to know what motivates you to ask Palmar that question. Are you feeling uncomfortable with the fact that he's giving me a townread? Do you see scum motivation in doing so or do you think I'm scum? Yes I am uncomfortable with him giving you a townread off of something I read as non-indicative. I also want to know why he suggests there is any value in the heuristic you used because it's nonsense imo.
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GiygaS, are you okay with lynching Hopeless today?
Also i still don't understand what made you vote Oats when you did and not earlier.
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On April 22 2013 10:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant what do you think of my & GiygaS' exchange of posts i nthe last two pages?
Truth be told, I haven't got really strong feelings about it one way or the other. I am concerned he did not notice that Hopeless was doing the same thing that he found another person scummy for, but his reaction to being called out on it wasn't particularly telling to me. I will say that at this point it seems likely that the two of you cannot both be mafia.
Is there something you find particularly telling in your exchange that you would like me to think about?
I would like you to pick someone from the player list for us to talk about in any case.
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On April 22 2013 10:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GiygaS, are you okay with lynching Hopeless today?
Also i still don't understand what made you vote Oats when you did and not earlier.
While he did do that, I feel the rest of his posts make me lean more town than oats'. I'd be down if my read on oats changes from his posting, or my read on hopeless changes due to his.
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Yeah, that and the fact that he didn't vote for Oats in the first place (when he posted last time - his three point post). Suddenly Oats has become a good enough candidate to vote for now, when he has not posted between those posts. I'm interested in knowing what made him change his mind.
Let's talk about WoS. Just read his filter and he is not really seeming to have any strong opinions about anything, just commenting on stuff.
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On April 22 2013 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:46 TheRavensName wrote:On April 22 2013 10:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote:Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too. + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote:
@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?
Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?
Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?
Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games. I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points. I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.) In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active? So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read.  Your sentences are the run-onniest. You're basing your entire read on Rayn on the one game of meta you have with him and how he treated you specifically this game? Its enough that I like him a little more then everyone else. I am taking it with a grain of salt though. I was under the impression that out of 25 people one should do what they can to try and limit the number just a little bit to a more managable size. Considering the size of his filter and the degree to which he has been under scrutiny thus far in the game, no, I don't think that's enough at all. If you read into him even a little bit I think you'd have plenty to go on; your read is lazy imo.
I think he was posting stuff as I was writing that, so I may have missed some things. I don't see much of an opinion on rayn from you, other than that terrible reason to believe your town. + Show Spoiler +That is a worse meta case then mine xD.
Looking back at it the Meta defense was pretty terrible, seeing as how in the same game he said that defending noob towns that would flip such was an easy scum tactic and one he had his partner use.... so yay... unsure what to think again.
+ Show Spoiler + I think this game is like, longer day on then the first two or three days of the last games I played. Scary.
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rayn.. not every player is tunnel central like you.
Oats and Hopeless are who I would lynch at this point I guess... The problem is that they ALWAYS look scummy to me.
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On April 22 2013 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
And then subsequently got aggressive with geript over it like people are SUPPOSED to read that much into my posting, which was intentionally bad.
Why post stuff no one is suppos to read into? Make yourself look more active then you actually are?
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On April 22 2013 11:17 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn.. not every player is tunnel central like you.
Oats and Hopeless are who I would lynch at this point I guess... The problem is that they ALWAYS look scummy to me.
Your filter is nearly as long as mine and you have not done shit besides telling the thread why some people are in your opinion town and acting as GiygaS' lawyer. Call my play tunneling or whatever you want to, but you really should start doing something to find mafia soon..
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Oatsmaster, who are your top 2 lynch candidates today and why?
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On April 22 2013 11:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 11:17 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn.. not every player is tunnel central like you.
Oats and Hopeless are who I would lynch at this point I guess... The problem is that they ALWAYS look scummy to me. Your filter is nearly as long as mine and you have not done shit besides telling the thread why some people are in your opinion town and acting as GiygaS' lawyer. Call my play tunneling or whatever you want to, but you really should start doing something to find mafia soon..
Are you kidding me? In the name of all that is not spam, I will correct you.
You have 39!!!!! posts so far in this game. Many of them are WALLS.
I have a modest 23 posts this game. And most of them are 1 liners.
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Also, same thing with Yamato, which two people would you lynch right now?
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Sharrant are you still here?
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I don't like that TRN seems to fail at reading you, nor that he doesn't seem to understand how most games are started.
But meh, aside from that, most of the people posting right now seem town enough.
People that HAVE irked me so far include CC, VE, and Oats.
BM is also sketch for his claim thing. He "soft claimed" last game, too, and was mafia. This could be the same sort of play.
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Yep! I'm here. What's on your mind?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Sooo....more or less caught up now.
Let's first clarify my stance on BM:
I was curious if anyone would just jump on it without too much reasoning. Now on BM in general I loathe his play as it is fucking terrible as town, look at the endgame of LVII for more details.
On April 22 2013 10:56 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 10:44 ShiaoPi wrote:@ObviousOne: Which post are you referring to? This one: + Show Spoiler +On April 20 2013 14:20 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 13:56 Ace wrote:
*looks at player list*
*shakes head in a bored way knowing he will lynch Bill Murray with ease Day 1* but but....he is EVIL??!!! or this one: + Show Spoiler +On March 25 2013 17:59 ShiaoPi wrote:I actually wanted to /in but then I saw grush and BM in the playerlist.....not again...never again.../obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too Still got shittons of catching up to do, just saw that as I scrolled over the last page ShiaoPi, at your earliest possible convenience I would like you to tell me how you feel about Raynepelikoneet, TheRavensName, Hopeless1nder, and one person of your choosing. I'll accept as low as one sentence on the first 3, but whoever you choose I'd like you to write something of decent size about.
Raynepelikoneet: Nothing to see here.
TheRavensName: Just some noobing around.
Hopeless1nder: Also nothing of note here.
There you go, one sentence each.
You also asked to have something on someone else with decent size?
I CHOOSE YOU SHARRANT!
In all seriousness, I do not like the direction your posting is going to:
You begin by heaping suspicion on TRN with some crap arguments and drop you vote. I would not take offense if this was just used in terms of pressuring someone who's play you think is lackluster. However you do not even refer to him again as scummy as soon as other people said that they thought he was noob. TRN is absent during this time but even after he returns you seem to have conveniently forgotten his existence when you saw that nothing was sticking.
I mean you do not even take into account the post TRN made after he popped back in:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 10:32 TheRavensName wrote:Thank you for directing me to the podcast. I ended up listening to it while I did some work and read the thread before having to run off to do some errands. Huge help in making me understand a little bit more. Still not sure I understand how spam is town, but apparently the expliantion is spam is townie... Since basically they said if your really active no one will want to kill you and that seems like good scum motivation too. + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 04:56 Sharrant wrote:
@TheRavensName
Who would you like to lynch right now?
Could you please link me to any games you have played on TL or elsewhere?
Do you think Oats is more likely scum, or more likely town?
Since I was asked, I have been in the last 3 NMM games in a row, your free to find them yourself (Isn't there a big database of games?) but I don't really think I can read into how I playbecause I ended up playing differently all three games. I don't know how Oats plays so I dunno if he really just spams that much at the start, so I will ignore that. I like how he points out the thing about Palmer's town read and trying to act like it was super awesome when it didn't do much so yea.... I feel like its a good point and its the only thing of any real substance in his filter. So, I would like to see something that seems more useful; I don't want to make a judgement off of basically one real point repeated a few points. I would be against lynching Rayn. In one of the Newbie games we played together we were in a similar situation and he took the opportunity to rip through me and just tunnel the entire game, so I think if he was scum this would be unlike him and I feel like I could have been a pretty easy push if he wanted to since he managed to basically do it before off less, even if there are much better people here who could see through it. (Unless he wantsto be my budy. dun dun dun.) In the same vain, I think Sharrant started out by taking a really easy way out of attacking me right out the gate and then just focuses on me and pushes around till hearing a few people saying that I was at least not scum, and then hops on Rayn without any real expliantion besides that hes going after BM for the miller soft claim and the fact that BM seems to be being useless, but that makes Ray more scummy then BM or someone else when Ray is actually being fairly active? So based off what I can figure out, I dislike Sharrant. He was convinced I was vote worthy, then hoped off before I got a chance to respond, but doesn't want to make a comment on BM til lBM shows up. Seems sketchy for me, and would probably be my vote target at the moment, but there is plenty of reading to be done and lots of time for more things to read.
Now if I recall correctly your potential scumlist right now should read something like: Rayne, TRN, Sylencia ?
Soooo what happened to your read on TRN?
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Did you take a look at WoS? You asked me to give us someone to talk about, i responded:
On April 22 2013 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah, that and the fact that he didn't vote for Oats in the first place (when he posted last time - his three point post). Suddenly Oats has become a good enough candidate to vote for now, when he has not posted between those posts. I'm interested in knowing what made him change his mind.
Let's talk about WoS. Just read his filter and he is not really seeming to have any strong opinions about anything, just commenting on stuff.
What do you think?
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Geript scummy yo, but modconfirm wins. Reading things.
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