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On April 22 2013 08:39 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Despite the fact that this was originally specifically addressed to marv, the fact remains you wrote that list post and I'd like to know what your thoughts on Palmar are. He's making sense and thus more likely to be town. If he doesn't die by night 2 I'll look into that read further. I just see very little point in trying to get a read on a player who I have little actual experience with and never had a very serious read on either way, seems to have a history of variable activity, and is likely to be a target of an NK if town. If he dies, then I'll dive him. If he doesn't, then I'll likely try to lynch him. It's not worth the effort and so long as he's making sense I don't see a point in not sheeping him.
Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself?
You also say you don't see a point in not sheeping him; do you agree with his assessment of BM's pseudo-claim?
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On April 22 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar what would you prefer as the "other discussions" you are referring to in your last post?
if I was being vague I'll clarify "We should move forward with ANY other discussion".
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The first game I played in here was with Sylencia IIRC and he/she was afk for most of it.
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If you're into programming consider the BM thread to be suspended until we receive further information, that doesn't stop the program, just that one thread.
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Palmar it's not just the analysis on Sylencia, the whole post is junk and you know it.
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On April 22 2013 08:44 getmoript wrote:
The first game I played in here was with Sylencia IIRC and he/she was afk for most of it.
So why does that make him most likely town?
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On April 22 2013 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
\Kush for similar reasons since he threw a vote on geript as well right before the 'confirmation' and right after agreed that this confirms geript as town without removing his vote. Want to gain some insight into his thoughts processes as well regarding his townreads.
i removed my vote and put it onto oats!!! u are soooo wrong
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On April 22 2013 08:47 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
\Kush for similar reasons since he threw a vote on geript as well right before the 'confirmation' and right after agreed that this confirms geript as town without removing his vote. Want to gain some insight into his thoughts processes as well regarding his townreads. i removed my vote and put it onto oats!!! u are soooo wrong
So you did; didn't check the voting thread.
That's not the point of my post though, the point was I'm interested to hear your thoughts on geript (and now oats) and your reads that you mentioned here:
On April 22 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX I already did though! VE town CC town Hopeless scum
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Palmar, do you want to question geript's alignment?
Do you want to question Sylencia's alignment?
Cause I don't see why you are pointing this stuff out if that's not your intention.
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On April 21 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 23:51 Palmar wrote:On April 21 2013 22:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 21 2013 21:51 Palmar wrote:On April 21 2013 20:27 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 21 2013 20:00 Palmar wrote:On April 21 2013 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while. I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today. Discuss. oh god palmar rolled scum There are two ways of looking at your post. First option is that you're town and legitimately think I'm scum. The second is you're scum and know I'm town and thus want to discredit me. Since you didn't present any arguments to back up your conclusion, I am inclined to think you must be scum. So until you present a believable motivation for your accusations... ##vote Oatsmaster Yup. Damn  Do you have no intention of explaining your accusation? do you? pro-tip: there is a correct answer to my accusations against you. So for the last time, do you not intend to give any explanation as to why you think I'm scum? I dont see the point of giving vivax a townread and asking people to discuss because it doesnt really force scum to make a hard decision thing, its early day 1, so easy to change your mind. Its not controversial, its NOTHING. And Scum palmar tries to win. This is trying to sidetrack the thread, which is trying to win for scum. VE wanna tell me/the thread why palmar is town?
I realize I never responded to this.
This is a somewhat lackluster answer, but it's passable for now but just leaves Oats firmly as undecided for me. My accusation was based on the fact that he made an attempt to discredit me with no reasoning behind it. I am not entirely sure those reasons are original or were made up to respond to my questioning, but I'm going to leave the situation in the air for now.
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On April 22 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote:
Palmar, do you want to question geript's alignment?
Do you want to question Sylencia's alignment?
Cause I don't see why you are pointing this stuff out if that's not your intention.
I have no information to question Sylencia's alignment
I just posted the stuff about geript because I REALLY wanted to say it. That being said I don't think we should lynch him today based simply on the pseudo-confirm.
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What do you think about GIYIGAS? Semi-big, summarizing post, doesn't do anything else?
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On April 22 2013 08:34 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:08 Sharrant wrote:On April 22 2013 08:04 getmoript wrote:On April 22 2013 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote:
Rayn, how's it going read-wise? Picked up anything else besides BM? I currently have 8 candidates as possible scum, you? lol what is this, a penis measuring contest? Either way I'm not impressed unless you have actual information to back it up. I'm really curious as to who you've come with especially considering most people's filters are too small to analyze; are you calling everyone with a filter worthy of analysis scummy? Personally the fact that geript has been pretty much avoiding me all day is enough for me for now. ##Vote: Getmoript So the fact that I've been avoiding you is scummy? Explain or die. Geript, WaveofShadow, both of you get on target here. You can return to your little slap fight afterwards if you want, but read the last few pages. Look at the cases on Rayne, and look at his filter. Then put your votes where they belong, and comment. For saying that you want to see more out of BM today before you make a decision, you sure aren't interested in having BM pressured whatsoever. That makes absolutely 0 sense to me. Why do that? What's the point? Where is your line of thinking here? You're pressuring Rayn for doing something that he feels is likely to force BM to post more or provide a read. I think your 'case' is shit. Quite frankly, I don't see what's wrong about talking about policy or anything else. Nothing that you've said is damning. The real question is why are you trying to sell your pile of shit like it's anything other than a pile of shit? Explain.
I will deal with this post after BM gets back, but as I have agreed with Rayne I will not discuss this any farther until such time.
But you would do well to mind your language, anger and vitriol is not what this town requires.
If it were not for the incident earlier with Marv and BH I would most likely be pushing for your lynch over Rayne's. I have found you incredibly scummy so far, but by merit out out of game action, you seem likely to be town. Now, I do have a theory about what actually happened, and why Marv being kicked from the game actually points more towards you being scum, but the time for such speculation is post game. As such from this point I am ignoring all of Marv's interaction with the thread, and treating you as if you have been playing on your own from the start.
We shall see how I feel after I have reread your filter in this new light a few times.
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On April 22 2013 08:45 Palmar wrote:
If you're into programming consider the BM thread to be suspended until we receive further information, that doesn't stop the program, just that one thread.
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On April 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself?
I said I wasn't interested in lynching into him. There's a difference between saying I'm not interested in lynching him today and calling him town, dear.
You also say you don't see a point in not sheeping him; do you agree with his assessment of BM's pseudo-claim?
Other than + Show Spoiler +On April 22 2013 01:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim. No, that's stupid. self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it. In a setup where their existence and numbers are known they should claim. In this setup they really shouldn't. Your responsibility as a self-aware miller in a set-up like this. Ideally we policy lynch miller claims on day one. But I want to think on it because there are a ton of stupid people around who might think it's a good idea to claim miller. You being a good example. Will explain more when I have a keyboard.
On April 22 2013 08:45 Palmar wrote:
So why does that make him most likely town?
Because as scum in The Game the first thing I did after checking my pm was get into the QT and start posting there and try to figure out something to coordinate to do, how to act, who to not attack, have posts edited etc. I think new scum are far more likely to try and post from a position of comfort.
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Dear WoS,
My vote on Oats..palmar called him scum. he got all sarcastic "ooo you found me." his sarcasm pissed me off so I voted him. My vote really doesn't go beyond that. Since then he's been afk.
Getript - very weird first post but now he's mod confirmed town. I don't really want to talk about it because I'm afraid a mod will yell at me but yeah..
VE town, CC town, Hopeless scum...that was following my role PM theories about how only town would mention that the role pms made them check the OP but scum would not. I dropped that because everyone said it was dumb. IMO it's smart. There is a reason mods dont want you to discuss things. And that's because those things hold the secret to who is scum!!
But anyway yeah since then hopeless has been afk but he is on my watch list.
Hopeless is scummier than Oats atm, but I really can't be bothered to change my vote because im lazy.
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Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?
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On April 22 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?
I am treating him the same as everyone else. As I stated, I am willfully ignoring everything involving the hydra, Marv, and BH's mod actions.
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On April 22 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sharrant are you treating Geript as confirmed town or not?
I'm pretty sure that was made clear by his post.
On April 22 2013 08:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Dear WoS,
My vote on Oats..palmar called him scum. he got all sarcastic "ooo you found me." his sarcasm pissed me off so I voted him. My vote really doesn't go beyond that. Since then he's been afk.
Getript - very weird first post but now he's mod confirmed town. I don't really want to talk about it because I'm afraid a mod will yell at me but yeah..
VE town, CC town, Hopeless scum...that was following my role PM theories about how only town would mention that the role pms made them check the OP but scum would not. I dropped that because everyone said it was dumb. IMO it's smart. There is a reason mods dont want you to discuss things. And that's because those things hold the secret to who is scum!!
But anyway yeah since then hopeless has been afk but he is on my watch list.
Hopeless is scummier than Oats atm, but I really can't be bothered to change my vote because im lazy.
Thank you, kind sir.
On April 22 2013 08:56 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Your post makes sense but it seems to be a little conflicted. Calling him town is a read, and yet in the same post you say you don't see a point in trying to get a read on him. Why bother calling him town if you're so unsure of yourself? I said I wasn't interested in lynching into him. There's a difference between saying I'm not interested in lynching him today and calling him town, dear.
Geript, you gotta find your own thing, man. Thanks for + Show Spoiler + responding though. That's all for now.
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First, my name is spelled GiygaS, not GIYIGAS.
Oats still seems scummy to me. His attitude around that accusation is weird to me, plus he was actively trying to dissuade a town read that VE had instead of actively hunting for scum. His one scum post was against geript, which we now know is pseudo-confirmed :/
I want to see some more posts from him , but until then ##Vote Oatsmaster.
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