i cant see if its a vod or live stream and i cant get a own stream working
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
i cant see if its a vod or live stream and i cant get a own stream working | ||
imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
On April 05 2013 02:40 Loxley wrote:
Apparently no one can point me to their business model, their revenue, or what company exactly is backing them up. Enough stuff for question marks, but nowhere is it claimed that it automatically is shady. I don't want to defend making a topic that just started by curiousity: there are enough posts questioning what Azubu is on TL and reddit. I merely wanted to expand on it. Its a topic on a forum, where users can give insight, facts, burn the OP down, or save it. All that matters in the end, is that the topic at hand is being discussed. People replying to the OP reign over its duration, and the mods if they think it has run its course. Only one other thing can end this topic in a heartbeat; a reply from an Azubu spokesperson giving us all some insight in their goals and how to they expect to get there without losing their investors in the process. Just treat it as your future son. If he claims he wants to be the biggest real-estate broker in the country, and suddenly started buying landpieces all around in this market.. Why not be curious as how he got his startup money and when he expects to break even. It would be logical to worry, even though you wish him the best. ive read several times in this thread that it seems like they are creating browser games and all that stuff for big german tv channels (for example Sevengames.de for ProSieben) | ||
Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On April 05 2013 02:46 imperator-xy wrote: ive read several times in this thread that it seems like they are creating browser games and all that stuff for big german tv channels (for example Sevengames.de for ProSieben) That was posted once and completely without proof | ||
AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
The money has to come from somewhere, and as cool as it is to think someone loves esports so much that they simply want to inject tons of money into the scene without expecting anything in return, I find that very hard to believe in this day and age. | ||
stew_
Canada239 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16004 Posts
Until someone comes along and proves otherwise that's what I'm going to choose to believe. | ||
AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:19 stew_ wrote: very good write-up. thing smells like money-laundering if you ask me Honestly it would be too risky for someone dealing with an illegal cash flow to choose esports as a means to clean it all up. It doesn't really make much sense either, how exactly are they laundering the money if they're currently just dumping huge amounts of money into the scene without gaining anything in return (at least that we know of). | ||
red_hq
Canada450 Posts
Early 1990's in Isreal bus ad space couldn't get sold so someone paid a marketing firm to make up a fictional drink called limonana and market it to prove the ad space was worth it, it got so popular that people started demanding it in restaurants and the like. So much so that it became a real and successful product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonana Azubu is no different, they want to show investors that marketing via esports is super effective. They want to create so much hype and speculation that no one can take it any more and they could sell sandals marketed as Azubu sandals and they would make money just because everyone wants Azubu and it is such a well known name. Many other companies will look at this and say "hey, look that esports marketing is pretty good" and want to buy some ad space. And Azubu will have ALL (most of) of the marketing deals in esports allowing them to sell them at ridiculous margins. | ||
IRL_Sinister
Ireland621 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:22 docvoc wrote: The company seems mysterious. They aren't exactly shady, though some of the business men associated with these people are; that doesn't make it shady immediately, but it doesn't bode well for the company. I don't know if I like that companies like these are the ones that are spending money on E-Sports. That makes E-Sports harder to show as a legitimate business for other companies. Jumping on that bandwagon. | ||
m0ck
4194 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:29 red_hq wrote: You guys here is some speculation on what Azubu is. Early 1990's in Isreal bus ad space couldn't get sold so someone paid a marketing firm to make up a fictional drink called limonana and market it to prove the ad space was worth it, it got so popular that people started demanding it in restaurants and the like. So much so that it became a real and successful product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonana Azubu is no different, they want to show investors that marketing via esports is super effective. They want to create so much hype and speculation that no one can take it any more and they could sell sandals marketed as Azubu sandals and they would make money just because everyone wants Azubu and it is such a well known name. Many other companies will look at this and say "hey, look that esports marketing is pretty good" and want to buy some ad space. And Azubu will have ALL (most of) of the marketing deals in esports allowing them to sell them at ridiculous margins. That's a pretty clever angle, thanks! | ||
tshi
United States2495 Posts
On April 05 2013 04:29 red_hq wrote: You guys here is some speculation on what Azubu is. Early 1990's in Isreal bus ad space couldn't get sold so someone paid a marketing firm to make up a fictional drink called limonana and market it to prove the ad space was worth it, it got so popular that people started demanding it in restaurants and the like. So much so that it became a real and successful product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonana Azubu is no different, they want to show investors that marketing via esports is super effective. They want to create so much hype and speculation that no one can take it any more and they could sell sandals marketed as Azubu sandals and they would make money just because everyone wants Azubu and it is such a well known name. Many other companies will look at this and say "hey, look that esports marketing is pretty good" and want to buy some ad space. And Azubu will have ALL (most of) of the marketing deals in esports allowing them to sell them at ridiculous margins. OMG. That shit blew my mind. Very clever, indeed. | ||
serum321
United States606 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
never heard of them until recently and it is the "biggest contributor to e-sports"? thats like a rookie saying he is the greatest player of all time. or did i miss the sarcasm...? or did i miss some information, like azubu was behind the success of esports, pushing it forward in the shadows. | ||
red_hq
Canada450 Posts
On April 05 2013 06:31 jinorazi wrote: i'm offended. (but dont take it too seriously) never heard of them until recently and it is the "biggest contributor to e-sports"? thats like a rookie saying he is the greatest player of all time. or did i miss the sarcasm...? or did i miss some information, like azubu was behind the success of esports, pushing it forward in the shadows. Monetarily Azubu is the largest E-sports contributor in the past year. As in Azubu has given out the most sponsorship dollars in the past year. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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whyze
United States8 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On April 05 2013 08:30 tree.hugger wrote: I feel bad; you heroically went through so much stuff to come to such a disappointing and predictable conclusion: nobody has a clue what AZUBU does, is, or where the money comes from. Personally, I'd want nothing to do with it, but I guess if the players and managers are getting paid actual money, then they're doing alright for themselves right now... personally it's more alarming that he didn't find anything rather than discovering the source. very important and meaningful that he shared this since we can all start questioning AZUBU and treat their various "investments" (if you can call it that) with more scrutiny or at least cautious optimism, and hopefully with more hungry eyes looking the details can be filled in. someone jokingly mentioned a north korean conspiracy. i would not be very surprised if this was actually something on a somewhat smaller scale. | ||
TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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isparavanje
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