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HowdySC2
United States15 Posts
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On April 04 2013 12:59 Doodsmack wrote: Conspiracy bro. The moon landing was a hoax. I highly doubt a group of rich guys will just throw $5+ million into ESPORTS just as a passion. What do they potentially benefit from it? Since they have no true business front directly attached, it does make you question who they are and their intentions. | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On April 04 2013 13:17 holy_war wrote: I highly doubt a group of rich guys will just throw $5+ million into ESPORTS just as a passion. What do they potentially benefit from it? Since they have no true business front directly attached, it does make you question who they are and their intentions. Yeah... And these people already have such a bad history... man idk but it smells bad from miles away xS | ||
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FXOBoSs
337 Posts
What they are actually doing? I would be surprised if anyone knows. They could be creating nukes for all we know. They are there, but they are not transparent as an organisation, and I dare say the people who are involved don't really care where the money comes from or whats behind the money. Either way, it will all eventually unfold, perhaps they will come out with a new game, or something amazing. Or they will go the way of sixjax etc. Its impossible to gauge without some transparency, which at the moment there is none. Azubu.tv looks terrible and doesn't look like it will succeed without a major adjustment and some incentive for streamers. Their overall traffic is seriously poor compared to competition (twitch etc). I would also be curious to know what affiliations the Azubu organisation has, to who or which company. It could be selling porn on the internet for all we know. Gretech streams adult content according to wikipedia, so it could just be the same thing long term. A gretech like organisation which is legit and makes money and supports esports. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On April 04 2013 13:32 FXOBoSs wrote: I was watching Azubu for quite a while when I was directly involved in E-sports investment. Azubu is NOT a money laundering front. I don't see how what they are doing would be considered washing money at all. If they went around buying hotels in cash and property in weird places, then I would probably accuse them of that. But at the moment they just seem to be trying to enter a market to which they don't particularly know how to enter. What they are actually doing? I would be surprised if anyone knows. They could be creating nukes for all we know. They are there, but they are not transparent as an organisation, and I dare say the people who are involved don't really care where the money comes from or whats behind the money. Either way, it will all eventually unfold, perhaps they will come out with a new game, or something amazing. Or they will go the way of sixjax etc. Its impossible to gauge without some transparency, which at the moment there is none. Azubu.tv looks terrible and doesn't look like it will succeed without a major adjustment and some incentive for streamers. Their overall traffic is seriously poor compared to competition (twitch etc). I would also be curious to know what affiliations the Azubu organisation has, to who or which company. It could be selling porn on the internet for all we know. Gretech streams adult content according to wikipedia, so it could just be the same thing long term. A gretech like organisation which is legit and makes money and supports esports. As always, a very wonderful knowledge bomb. Thanks, boss. There are probably still ways for there to be money laundering involved, although I don't think that's the case. There may be some shady goings on, but actual illegal actions probably not. I was hovering around the "massive tax write-off somewhere" line of thought or maybe "so, these guys are like the old Quantic?" Money coming into eSports is wonderful, but the industry as a whole has gotten burned from time to time by big flashy entrances and crushing crashes caused by exits, so it's something that fans might be interested in learning more about as time goes on. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 04 2013 13:32 FXOBoSs wrote: I was watching Azubu for quite a while when I was directly involved in E-sports investment. Azubu is NOT a money laundering front. I don't see how what they are doing would be considered washing money at all. If they went around buying hotels in cash and property in weird places, then I would probably accuse them of that. But at the moment they just seem to be trying to enter a market to which they don't particularly know how to enter. What they are actually doing? I would be surprised if anyone knows. They could be creating nukes for all we know. They are there, but they are not transparent as an organisation, and I dare say the people who are involved don't really care where the money comes from or whats behind the money. Either way, it will all eventually unfold, perhaps they will come out with a new game, or something amazing. Or they will go the way of sixjax etc. Its impossible to gauge without some transparency, which at the moment there is none. Azubu.tv looks terrible and doesn't look like it will succeed without a major adjustment and some incentive for streamers. Their overall traffic is seriously poor compared to competition (twitch etc). I would also be curious to know what affiliations the Azubu organisation has, to who or which company. It could be selling porn on the internet for all we know. Gretech streams adult content according to wikipedia, so it could just be the same thing long term. A gretech like organisation which is legit and makes money and supports esports. I'm mostly curious what the e-currency project is supposed to be. | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On April 04 2013 14:08 Jibba wrote: I'm mostly curious what the e-currency project is supposed to be. Bitcoin-esque? | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
I ask this because, well I love companies spending insane amounts on Esports, but I am frightened if they pull out due to sloppy management, excessive activities and leave Teams without funding, and tournaments without a prizepool. Its not bad Azubu is here, but it could be bad when they pull out. So I’m wondering, if the money doesn’t come through azubu.tv, how long till they pull out? | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On April 04 2013 15:41 TiTanIum_ wrote: If this was a scientific article, this would be its first sentence: Pulling out doesn't work because the boulberethra secretes semen with the thingie in order to neutralize the urine.... | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
No, posting a half sentence and two "hurr durr"'s as an answer to a well-researched and thought out post is being a dick. | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Passion
Netherlands1486 Posts
On April 04 2013 17:19 blackone wrote: No, posting a half sentence and two "hurr durr"'s as an answer to a well-researched and thought out post is being a dick. I'd rather consider posting a 5 page "article" while being clueless as being a dick. (Edit: yes, I disagree with "well-researched") Anyway, they're don't seem very transparent, but that's not illegal, is it. It seems kinda clear they're still in the process of setting something up. Money laundry seems a bit of a silly accusation as they currently have near to no income and are only making investments. | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
I feel so bad for the players on their team :/ | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Subsidiary AZUBU Interactive GmbH based in Berlin is involved in the creation of a lot of community websites and games for German TV networks (i.e. Pro Sieben, sevengames etc.). Maybe that is quite profitable for them, who knows. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:46 Teoita wrote: The Azubu thing is SO going to end terribly. I feel so bad for the players on their team :/ If you look at their sc2 lineup you will notice it consists of all old timer gsl 1ish vets that ultimately fell out of the scene. It's more than a little odd that Azubu picked up all these players, especially when you consider the mystery that surrounds the organisation in general. Very generous of them, to say the least. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
It is not that difficult to put together an economic program that shows potential profit for e-sports. Just because a company does not disclose all financial information in no way associates the company with illegal behavior. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
Imagine if everyone showed up for GSL Ro8 one night, and everything was just gone. No warning, nothing, just everything gone. That's how it was with CAL. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On April 05 2013 00:23 Crownlol wrote: This is the weirdest thing I've seen in eSports since that Saudi just randomly bought and dissolved CALeague in the middle of a season. Imagine if everyone showed up for GSL Ro8 one night, and everything was just gone. No warning, nothing, just everything gone. That's how it was with CAL. heh, so that's what happened to CAL. I always wondered what happened to that league. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On April 04 2013 23:04 AnomalySC2 wrote: If you look at their sc2 lineup you will notice it consists of all old timer gsl 1ish vets that ultimately fell out of the scene. It's more than a little odd that Azubu picked up all these players, especially when you consider the mystery that surrounds the organisation in general. Very generous of them, to say the least. They probably don't have a proper talent scout to pick up unknowns/b-teamers with potential that aren't on a team already. Lots of things shady about abuzucom but that isn't one of them. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
Apparently no one can point me to their business model, their revenue, or what company exactly is backing them up. Enough stuff for question marks, but nowhere is it claimed that it automatically is shady. I don't want to defend making a topic that just started by curiousity: there are enough posts questioning what Azubu is on TL and reddit. I merely wanted to expand on it. Its a topic on a forum, where users can give insight, facts, burn the OP down, or save it. All that matters in the end, is that the topic at hand is being discussed. People replying to the OP reign over its duration, and the mods if they think it has run its course. Only one other thing can end this topic in a heartbeat; a reply from an Azubu spokesperson giving us all some insight in their goals and how to they expect to get there without losing their investors in the process. Just treat it as your future son. If he claims he wants to be the biggest real-estate broker in the country, and suddenly started buying landpieces all around in this market.. Why not be curious as how he got his startup money and when he expects to break even. It would be logical to worry, even though you wish him the best. | ||
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