Personality Mafia 2 - Page 182

On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:

i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still

i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town

Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool

On March 16 2013 04:37 austinmcc wrote:
marv, take a look at iamp's filter for a second.

Blind yourself to the bits where he supports you. Blind yourself to the parts where his reads line up with yours A LOT of the time.

Is town iamp....this unfocused? Some may be roleplaying, but actually read his filter critically. Especially during D2 when the thread didn't need any help being a mess. He's got a couple reads, and he talks about those when they come up, sometimes, but he just never ever goes out of his way to START anything. He never goes out of his way to comment on anything that isn't being commented on, and he's got NOTHING as far as...half or so of the thread is concerned.

It's all so short and terse that I can't get much from it, besides some associative stuff once we have more flips. But...is this iamp?Thinks you're town. You parity checked those two as different. You telegraphed that, so decent chance there was a frame, but he wants to lynch both. No comment ever on whether he thinks there's a cover ability or something, he just doesn't update his read AT ALL from both scum during N1 --> opposite parity check from someone that seems to be a major town read.

On March 16 2013 04:46 austinmcc wrote:
In case that quotes bit was unclear, here's what I'm getting at.

iamp N1 has both Foolishness and Ver in his scum list
marv D2 comes back with a parity check on those two as different
iamp strongly believes marv to be town

iamp continues to push both Foolishness AND Ver. He does not explain why he does not trust the check.

That's fine, in and of itself. There were a lot of comments in the thread about how the check was telegraphed, and so there could be a frame or a rb. But we know marv wasn't roleblocked (PARANOIA PARANOIA: IF HE'S TOWN (WHICH HE PROBABLY IS)). And if the checks came back different, that means a frame doesn't explain both being scum.

If both were TOWN, you could frame one, have the parity check come back different, and lynch them BOTH. Get rid of 1 of 2 big scary players that you would not want to face as scum.

But if both were SCUM, you can't frame them to make the parity check come back different. You'd need a cover ability, or a framer that specifically can do both, which MIGHT be the case. Or a gf, which MIGHT be the case.

iamp just jumps into wanting to lynch BOTH players though. Despite the parity check, despite a roleblock not occurring, despite a regular frame + the check indicating that both are actually TOWN. So he's relying on one of them being a gf or one of them being covered, but nobody is really discussing those powers and he doesn't see fit to mention. He just carries his night scum reads over to day, without taking into account a parity check that a big town read got back.

Scum. Dude scum.

On March 16 2013 04:46 austinmcc wrote:
In case that quotes bit was unclear, here's what I'm getting at.

iamp N1 has both Foolishness and Ver in his scum list
marv D2 comes back with a parity check on those two as different
iamp strongly believes marv to be town

iamp continues to push both Foolishness AND Ver. He does not explain why he does not trust the check.

That's fine, in and of itself. There were a lot of comments in the thread about how the check was telegraphed, and so there could be a frame or a rb. But we know marv wasn't roleblocked (PARANOIA PARANOIA: IF HE'S TOWN (WHICH HE PROBABLY IS)). And if the checks came back different, that means a frame doesn't explain both being scum.

If both were TOWN, you could frame one, have the parity check come back different, and lynch them BOTH. Get rid of 1 of 2 big scary players that you would not want to face as scum.

But if both were SCUM, you can't frame them to make the parity check come back different. You'd need a cover ability, or a framer that specifically can do both, which MIGHT be the case. Or a gf, which MIGHT be the case.

iamp just jumps into wanting to lynch BOTH players though. Despite the parity check, despite a roleblock not occurring, despite a regular frame + the check indicating that both are actually TOWN. So he's relying on one of them being a gf or one of them being covered, but nobody is really discussing those powers and he doesn't see fit to mention. He just carries his night scum reads over to day, without taking into account a parity check that a big town read got back.

Scum. Dude scum.

On March 16 2013 04:46 Promethelax wrote:


you wanted to ask me something?
What was it little thing?
I have not much time
so reply to my rhyme
before to work myself I must bring.

On March 16 2013 04:49 iamperfection wrote:
Why would you put any stock in the check Austin at all?

On March 16 2013 04:49 austinmcc wrote:
Yeah, but earlier. I read you over a couple times and felt a little better, was worried about the drop in activity, and was hoping to get you more involved so I could reassure myself further.

Like...supersoft, during yesterday, went from you being super super townie to moving you down his list. You were noticeably absent. Even if the rhymes are sometimes painful, you seem to be forced to condense your thoughts down and give short thoughts/directions. It works well, and we could use more of it.

What do you think about this iamp bit?

his posts are dry air

On March 14 2013 23:13 iamperfection wrote:

for someone who shot their own scum buddy you put a lot of stock in associations.

marvs dt check is useless because he had to announce it why rb when he cant put any stock in it since its a closed setup.