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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 15 2013 16:49 GMT
#3581
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
I am still a medic and I change my protection to Dandel, because I am selfish and I want to live.

lol

bring it on, scum
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 15 2013 16:56 GMT
#3582
Okay, now I leave you to your devices.

Good hunting.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 16:58 GMT
#3583
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 15 2013 17:00 GMT
#3584
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Im really really confused on how this works.

You and another person have to agree on a vigi target? Is it immediately? Or at the end of the night?
Also I dont see how announcing a scum vivax kill is 'safer' than annoucing a scum foolishness kill. How is it different?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 17:00 GMT
#3585
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17992 Posts
March 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#3586
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.

But... I don't get it. If you have to vote, then it's not you shooting? Or do you only get to shoot if your partner agrees? Or can your vote be roleblocked?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#3587
On March 16 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?

It's kind of weird. I guess someone had a town read on me because it's their role that's being used. They added me to a sleeper cell with a 1shot vig power. I assume each night they can add a new person (I got the notification pm with the day post). Each phase the leader can send one pm through the mods to the members of the cell and each night we vote on who to kill. If everyone in the cells votes match the shot goes off on that target(I don't know if it's instantly or at night resolution, I assume resolution).I announced it because it was obvious that's what was doing when I asked if he had a vet power and to make sure the leader and I were on the same page, but I wouldn't know if the bullet fizzed if I didn't know about vivax powers.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 17:13 GMT
#3588
On March 16 2013 02:08 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?

It's kind of weird. I guess someone had a town read on me because it's their role that's being used. They added me to a sleeper cell with a 1shot vig power. I assume each night they can add a new person (I got the notification pm with the day post). Each phase the leader can send one pm through the mods to the members of the cell and each night we vote on who to kill. If everyone in the cells votes match the shot goes off on that target(I don't know if it's instantly or at night resolution, I assume resolution).I announced it because it was obvious that's what was doing when I asked if he had a vet power and to make sure the leader and I were on the same page, but I wouldn't know if the bullet fizzed if I didn't know about vivax powers.


If it's someone anonymous carrying out the shot, I'd much rather you shot at our (potentially) unlynchable friend, Foolishness.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 15 2013 17:40 GMT
#3589
Hey anyone notice that Iamp and other people have been missing the WHOLE night so far?
No gg, No skill.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 15 2013 17:41 GMT
#3590
On March 16 2013 02:08 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?

It's kind of weird. I guess someone had a town read on me because it's their role that's being used. They added me to a sleeper cell with a 1shot vig power. I assume each night they can add a new person (I got the notification pm with the day post). Each phase the leader can send one pm through the mods to the members of the cell and each night we vote on who to kill. If everyone in the cells votes match the shot goes off on that target(I don't know if it's instantly or at night resolution, I assume resolution).I announced it because it was obvious that's what was doing when I asked if he had a vet power and to make sure the leader and I were on the same page, but I wouldn't know if the bullet fizzed if I didn't know about vivax powers.


does the leader get a vote? Or only the people who got added? Or are the votes done by PM, and you just put yours in the thread to

I ask this because no one was voting during the night last night, so it seems like
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 15 2013 17:43 GMT
#3591
On March 16 2013 02:08 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:58 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 01:46 Stutters695 wrote:
only issue with that list is I'm not scum. I can see where you're coming from though.

Anyway since I told the person I have to agree with in order to use the 1kp this cell has, looks like you picked a good target in your message, let's go with that

##vote: Vivax


NOooo! Shoot FOOLISHNESS!

I'd rather let a regular vig do it so it isn't announced and it doesn't get rb'ed. Worst case if foolish lives we just lynch him again and coordinate to put a scummer in second again just in case it's an indefinite thing (I also can't know if the other person already locked in his shot but if he hasn't he can vote differently, we won't shoot and he can add you and we shoot tomorrow.


Ok. I worry that we don't have a regular vig, but I guess the announce/roleblock thing makes some sense. And I do love me a bit of Vivax death.

It's part of your role that you have to announce it in thread then?

It's kind of weird. I guess someone had a town read on me because it's their role that's being used. They added me to a sleeper cell with a 1shot vig power. I assume each night they can add a new person (I got the notification pm with the day post). Each phase the leader can send one pm through the mods to the members of the cell and each night we vote on who to kill. If everyone in the cells votes match the shot goes off on that target(I don't know if it's instantly or at night resolution, I assume resolution).I announced it because it was obvious that's what was doing when I asked if he had a vet power and to make sure the leader and I were on the same page, but I wouldn't know if the bullet fizzed if I didn't know about vivax powers.


does the leader get a vote? Or only the people who got added? Or are the votes done by PM, and you just put yours in the thread for transparency?

I ask this because no one was voting during the night last night, so it seems like there was presumably no sleeper cell vig shot during that phase.

Also one other question - when you say "sleeper cell", is that what the hosts told you it was or is that just an analogy you came up with? Because if the hosts used the term "sleeper cell" then I would start to be worried about alternate wincons etc.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 15 2013 17:54 GMT
#3592
On March 16 2013 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:
On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.

Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job.
On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.

Mafia seems stacked.
On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good.
On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.

On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:
On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.


Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass.


Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.


IT wasn't untouched, it was tweaked with this Announcement thing. Otherwise we wouldn't have the opportunity to be talking about it now.. Keep squirming, slOosh.

Ah yes. Scum Cora & Foolishness pulled an elaborate ploy to lynch himself to fool everyone's reads, and had it not been for your keen insight we would have been deluded into thinking he could have been town. Why, even the mods were fooled!
On March 16 2013 00:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:11 Vivax wrote:
Does the OP and the mafia numbers reflect the true alignment now?

Yes

Why, you exposed my dastardly plot to use corazon's alignment to draw false conclusions, before I even made any such posts!

Bravo marv, you are the hero that this town needs.

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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 17:56 GMT
#3593
Host called it a sleeper cell, but I was told nothing about an alt-wincon(otherwise I wouldn't have brought this up). Other than my notification PM and the one message he sent me (saying he liked the plan I proposed and who he wanted to shoot) I know nothing about it. Based off of what I know (I got my PM at d2 post) and that his message was directly in response to what I said in thread I'm assuming it's just me and him right now and it said nothing about if he gets a vote (I assumed he does). Votes are done via PM.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 15 2013 17:57 GMT
#3594
sloosh, think about it.

What use is a role that conceals alignment 12 hours after death only?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 17:59 GMT
#3595
On March 16 2013 02:54 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:
On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.

Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job.
On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.

Mafia seems stacked.
On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good.
On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.

On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:
On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.


Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass.


Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.


IT wasn't untouched, it was tweaked with this Announcement thing. Otherwise we wouldn't have the opportunity to be talking about it now.. Keep squirming, slOosh.

Ah yes. Scum Cora & Foolishness pulled an elaborate ploy to lynch himself to fool everyone's reads, and had it not been for your keen insight we would have been deluded into thinking he could have been town. Why, even the mods were fooled!
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:11 Vivax wrote:
Does the OP and the mafia numbers reflect the true alignment now?

Yes

Why, you exposed my dastardly plot to use corazon's alignment to draw false conclusions, before I even made any such posts!

Bravo marv, you are the hero that this town needs.

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]



If you're somehow town you need to get a fucking grip slOosh. Because the entire town is with me on this and you're making yourself look like the Fool (geddit?).

You can carry on down this path and we'll lynch the piss out of you, or you can take a deep breath and think properly.

I know you're not a full-blown retard, so quit acting like one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 18:00 GMT
#3596
On March 16 2013 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
Host called it a sleeper cell, but I was told nothing about an alt-wincon(otherwise I wouldn't have brought this up). Other than my notification PM and the one message he sent me (saying he liked the plan I proposed and who he wanted to shoot) I know nothing about it. Based off of what I know (I got my PM at d2 post) and that his message was directly in response to what I said in thread I'm assuming it's just me and him right now and it said nothing about if he gets a vote (I assumed he does). Votes are done via PM.


Again, if the shot is performed by not-you, please shoot Foolishness.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 18:02 GMT
#3597
@Marv I don't know how the shot gets carried out but hopefully it will be done by the anon leader(I don't know who he is even). All I know is that the cell has a 1shot kp.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 18:03 GMT
#3598
ok no use thinking about it too much.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 15 2013 18:04 GMT
#3599
Hopefully he hasn't sent in his vote. I'll try PMing the host yo see if I can change, if not it's out if my control.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 18:05 GMT
#3600
I am curious about all this sleeper cell stuff, but probably busy with work for a few hours. Too much time on this game this week.

stutters, the message you received says it's a one-shot deal? Does it say anything about whether you remain in the cell afterward?
Fe fi fo fum.
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