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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#3621
So marv, it seems like you agree with what I say?

I have only skimmed the thread since the last time I posted, and all I got out of it was the death miller thingy, so yeah.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 19:34 GMT
#3622
don't not read the thread, it's boring.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 15 2013 19:36 GMT
#3623
Have I really missed all that much?

You screaming at stupid people.

A lot of people WIFOMing themselves over the Death Miller.

Vivax posting obvious bullshit.

I don't really have the time to sift through all that just to find out my predictions are all 10000000% correct just based off skimming the important posts.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 15 2013 19:37 GMT
#3624
Besides, have I not arrived at the correct conclusion?

You seemed to agree with it, there.
Writer@WriterYamato
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:37 GMT
#3625
marv, take a look at iamp's filter for a second.

Blind yourself to the bits where he supports you. Blind yourself to the parts where his reads line up with yours A LOT of the time.

Is town iamp....this unfocused? Some may be roleplaying, but actually read his filter critically. Especially during D2 when the thread didn't need any help being a mess. He's got a couple reads, and he talks about those when they come up, sometimes, but he just never ever goes out of his way to START anything. He never goes out of his way to comment on anything that isn't being commented on, and he's got NOTHING as far as...half or so of the thread is concerned.

It's all so short and terse that I can't get much from it, besides some associative stuff once we have more flips. But...is this iamp?
On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead?

i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still

i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town

Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool
Thinks you're town. You parity checked those two as different. You telegraphed that, so decent chance there was a frame, but he wants to lynch both. No comment ever on whether he thinks there's a cover ability or something, he just doesn't update his read AT ALL from both scum during N1 --> opposite parity check from someone that seems to be a major town read.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#3626
EBWOP: half or so of the thread should read "half or so of the players in the game"
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#3627
*I* don't trust my check, austin, and I'm confirmed town to myself.

iamp is pretty consistent in wanting to lynch people, and vets especially actually, who aren't doing anything. iamperfection is the type of player who puts player on pedestals, and when they don't perform to their expectations, he wants to kill them. Themed is an easy example, from quite early on he wanted to lynch me because I wasn't doing anything.

His interest in Ver and Fool, yes both of them, seems entirely consistent with his philosophy as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#3628
marv what other powers do you have on that joat
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#3629
Yamato, you've missed nothing of worth
of logical posting there has not been a birth
there is yelling and screaming
it is not redeeming
though some things cause some mirth.

I hope we'll vig foolish
he can be slapped with a fish
at him I'll still point
his kill will be joint
I guess that karma's a bitch

This magic marker was used
and we were confused
but I thought cora was red
and that is stuck in my head
all I know is some role was abused

Now I'll send in my action
wait for scum's reaction
when fool becomes useless
no longer a threat
he is getting smacked down, son.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 15 2013 19:44 GMT
#3630
Maybe I want to lynch both because they are scummy.... Don't see how the parity check is useful or relevant at all since it was telegraphed.

Don't don't know what your talking about austin
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2013 19:46 GMT
#3631
On March 16 2013 04:37 austinmcc wrote:
marv, take a look at iamp's filter for a second.

Blind yourself to the bits where he supports you. Blind yourself to the parts where his reads line up with yours A LOT of the time.

Is town iamp....this unfocused? Some may be roleplaying, but actually read his filter critically. Especially during D2 when the thread didn't need any help being a mess. He's got a couple reads, and he talks about those when they come up, sometimes, but he just never ever goes out of his way to START anything. He never goes out of his way to comment on anything that isn't being commented on, and he's got NOTHING as far as...half or so of the thread is concerned.

It's all so short and terse that I can't get much from it, besides some associative stuff once we have more flips. But...is this iamp?
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead?

i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still

i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town

Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool
Thinks you're town. You parity checked those two as different. You telegraphed that, so decent chance there was a frame, but he wants to lynch both. No comment ever on whether he thinks there's a cover ability or something, he just doesn't update his read AT ALL from both scum during N1 --> opposite parity check from someone that seems to be a major town read.




you wanted to ask me something?
What was it little thing?
I have not much time
so reply to my rhyme
before to work myself I must bring.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:46 GMT
#3632
In case that quotes bit was unclear, here's what I'm getting at.

iamp N1 has both Foolishness and Ver in his scum list
marv D2 comes back with a parity check on those two as different
iamp strongly believes marv to be town

iamp continues to push both Foolishness AND Ver. He does not explain why he does not trust the check.

That's fine, in and of itself. There were a lot of comments in the thread about how the check was telegraphed, and so there could be a frame or a rb. But we know marv wasn't roleblocked (PARANOIA PARANOIA: IF HE'S TOWN (WHICH HE PROBABLY IS)). And if the checks came back different, that means a frame doesn't explain both being scum.

If both were TOWN, you could frame one, have the parity check come back different, and lynch them BOTH. Get rid of 1 of 2 big scary players that you would not want to face as scum.

But if both were SCUM, you can't frame them to make the parity check come back different. You'd need a cover ability, or a framer that specifically can do both, which MIGHT be the case. Or a gf, which MIGHT be the case.

iamp just jumps into wanting to lynch BOTH players though. Despite the parity check, despite a roleblock not occurring, despite a regular frame + the check indicating that both are actually TOWN. So he's relying on one of them being a gf or one of them being covered, but nobody is really discussing those powers and he doesn't see fit to mention. He just carries his night scum reads over to day, without taking into account a parity check that a big town read got back.

Scum. Dude scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 15 2013 19:48 GMT
#3633
On March 16 2013 04:46 austinmcc wrote:
In case that quotes bit was unclear, here's what I'm getting at.

iamp N1 has both Foolishness and Ver in his scum list
marv D2 comes back with a parity check on those two as different
iamp strongly believes marv to be town

iamp continues to push both Foolishness AND Ver. He does not explain why he does not trust the check.

That's fine, in and of itself. There were a lot of comments in the thread about how the check was telegraphed, and so there could be a frame or a rb. But we know marv wasn't roleblocked (PARANOIA PARANOIA: IF HE'S TOWN (WHICH HE PROBABLY IS)). And if the checks came back different, that means a frame doesn't explain both being scum.

If both were TOWN, you could frame one, have the parity check come back different, and lynch them BOTH. Get rid of 1 of 2 big scary players that you would not want to face as scum.

But if both were SCUM, you can't frame them to make the parity check come back different. You'd need a cover ability, or a framer that specifically can do both, which MIGHT be the case. Or a gf, which MIGHT be the case.

iamp just jumps into wanting to lynch BOTH players though. Despite the parity check, despite a roleblock not occurring, despite a regular frame + the check indicating that both are actually TOWN. So he's relying on one of them being a gf or one of them being covered, but nobody is really discussing those powers and he doesn't see fit to mention. He just carries his night scum reads over to day, without taking into account a parity check that a big town read got back.

Scum. Dude scum.

Your an idiot


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2013 19:49 GMT
#3634
On March 16 2013 04:46 austinmcc wrote:
In case that quotes bit was unclear, here's what I'm getting at.

iamp N1 has both Foolishness and Ver in his scum list
marv D2 comes back with a parity check on those two as different
iamp strongly believes marv to be town

iamp continues to push both Foolishness AND Ver. He does not explain why he does not trust the check.

That's fine, in and of itself. There were a lot of comments in the thread about how the check was telegraphed, and so there could be a frame or a rb. But we know marv wasn't roleblocked (PARANOIA PARANOIA: IF HE'S TOWN (WHICH HE PROBABLY IS)). And if the checks came back different, that means a frame doesn't explain both being scum.

If both were TOWN, you could frame one, have the parity check come back different, and lynch them BOTH. Get rid of 1 of 2 big scary players that you would not want to face as scum.

But if both were SCUM, you can't frame them to make the parity check come back different. You'd need a cover ability, or a framer that specifically can do both, which MIGHT be the case. Or a gf, which MIGHT be the case.

iamp just jumps into wanting to lynch BOTH players though. Despite the parity check, despite a roleblock not occurring, despite a regular frame + the check indicating that both are actually TOWN. So he's relying on one of them being a gf or one of them being covered, but nobody is really discussing those powers and he doesn't see fit to mention. He just carries his night scum reads over to day, without taking into account a parity check that a big town read got back.

Scum. Dude scum.



most framers point both ways
they make checks a haze
red to green, green to red
both can be said
don't discount this thought today.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:49 GMT
#3635
On March 16 2013 04:46 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 04:37 austinmcc wrote:
marv, take a look at iamp's filter for a second.

Blind yourself to the bits where he supports you. Blind yourself to the parts where his reads line up with yours A LOT of the time.

Is town iamp....this unfocused? Some may be roleplaying, but actually read his filter critically. Especially during D2 when the thread didn't need any help being a mess. He's got a couple reads, and he talks about those when they come up, sometimes, but he just never ever goes out of his way to START anything. He never goes out of his way to comment on anything that isn't being commented on, and he's got NOTHING as far as...half or so of the thread is concerned.

It's all so short and terse that I can't get much from it, besides some associative stuff once we have more flips. But...is this iamp?
On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead?

i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still

i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town

Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool
Thinks you're town. You parity checked those two as different. You telegraphed that, so decent chance there was a frame, but he wants to lynch both. No comment ever on whether he thinks there's a cover ability or something, he just doesn't update his read AT ALL from both scum during N1 --> opposite parity check from someone that seems to be a major town read.




you wanted to ask me something?
What was it little thing?
I have not much time
so reply to my rhyme
before to work myself I must bring.
Yeah, but earlier. I read you over a couple times and felt a little better, was worried about the drop in activity, and was hoping to get you more involved so I could reassure myself further.

Like...supersoft, during yesterday, went from you being super super townie to moving you down his list. You were noticeably absent. Even if the rhymes are sometimes painful, you seem to be forced to condense your thoughts down and give short thoughts/directions. It works well, and we could use more of it.

What do you think about this iamp bit?
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 15 2013 19:49 GMT
#3636
Why would you put any stock in the check Austin at all?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:56 GMT
#3637
On March 16 2013 04:49 iamperfection wrote:
Why would you put any stock in the check Austin at all?

I put some stock in the check because it happened. How much stock I put in it is a factor of my read on marv, pure speculation that scum has a framer that can cover/gf/something else we don't know about, and ... assumptions about vet balance.

I care less about how much I trust the check than the fact that you just discard it without any mention. Like, whether you trust it, maybe trust it, dont' trust it at all, I can't tell WHAT you thought, only that you kept pushing both of them as scum without seeming to factor in the check. I dunno if you didn't notice, didn't care to comment, or knew the check was bogus.
Fe fi fo fum.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 15 2013 19:56 GMT
#3638
On March 16 2013 04:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 04:46 Promethelax wrote:
On March 16 2013 04:37 austinmcc wrote:
marv, take a look at iamp's filter for a second.

Blind yourself to the bits where he supports you. Blind yourself to the parts where his reads line up with yours A LOT of the time.

Is town iamp....this unfocused? Some may be roleplaying, but actually read his filter critically. Especially during D2 when the thread didn't need any help being a mess. He's got a couple reads, and he talks about those when they come up, sometimes, but he just never ever goes out of his way to START anything. He never goes out of his way to comment on anything that isn't being commented on, and he's got NOTHING as far as...half or so of the thread is concerned.

It's all so short and terse that I can't get much from it, besides some associative stuff once we have more flips. But...is this iamp?
On March 14 2013 10:37 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2013 10:33 Vivax wrote:
Iamp what do you think of lynching crossfire or yamato instead?

i feel strongest about ver as well as fool still

i dont think cross is mafia that lynch deadline stuff still makes me think he is town

Yamato not playing is extremely concerning but i feel stronger about ver and fool
Thinks you're town. You parity checked those two as different. You telegraphed that, so decent chance there was a frame, but he wants to lynch both. No comment ever on whether he thinks there's a cover ability or something, he just doesn't update his read AT ALL from both scum during N1 --> opposite parity check from someone that seems to be a major town read.




you wanted to ask me something?
What was it little thing?
I have not much time
so reply to my rhyme
before to work myself I must bring.
Yeah, but earlier. I read you over a couple times and felt a little better, was worried about the drop in activity, and was hoping to get you more involved so I could reassure myself further.

Like...supersoft, during yesterday, went from you being super super townie to moving you down his list. You were noticeably absent. Even if the rhymes are sometimes painful, you seem to be forced to condense your thoughts down and give short thoughts/directions. It works well, and we could use more of it.

What do you think about this iamp bit?


I've been busy my man
and I liked your plan
of the thread getting less shitty
so I posted less ditties
my free time is out of my hands

Iamp is not impressive to me
but the top of my list is not he
his posts are dry air
but I just don't care
there are people involved much more scummy.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 15 2013 19:59 GMT
#3639
And the check is important, and maybe overblown here, because this
his posts are dry air
feels true. It's one of the few things that makes me go "hmmmm" in iamp's filter, the other stuff is often just so cursory.
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 15 2013 20:03 GMT
#3640
On March 14 2013 23:13 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:11 Vivax wrote:
You know, marv could agree on lynching his scumread Crossfire and see who of Foolish or Ver are scum.

Marv says there's nothing about Ver to make him think he's town and prefers Foolish.

Marv claimed DT in the thread and didn't get shot nor roleblocked.

Marv cherrypicks and takes every chance to go ad hominem on people trying to figure the game out.

Marv says that a scum Foolish getting a nuke would not shoot a DT to make us believe he's town.

Cmon

for someone who shot their own scum buddy you put a lot of stock in associations.

marvs dt check is useless because he had to announce it why rb when he cant put any stock in it since its a closed setup.

....
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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