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On March 16 2013 05:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 05:24 austinmcc wrote:
No, never read WLIAA all the way through, apart from checking some filters when they were relevant to other games. Just take a browse through Crossfire's filter and look at the quality of his posts. Remember in PU he had a mason claim in his back pocket. I was about to say that PU is not good comparison material, because he was confirmed town due to mason, so he could pretty much get away with murder. In MTG2 I pegged him as scum ridiculously easily. So he has either improved his game, or he's town. On D1 he looked like scum, but on D2 he had some insightful stuff, mainly about the nukes. Lets kill the scum we know before worrying about their partners. Associations should help... and the Cora associations are untrustworthy. I tried working from the assumption that Cora is town, but I just tie myself into wifom knots where I have conflicting beliefs about Foolishness and the use of the death miller thing. The whole exercise seems pointless and I end up agreeing that we should just ignore the whole flip and work from our reads without Cora associations, at least for now. Kill Foolishness. Work from there.
No, we worry about their partners. Corazon and Foolishness are as good as confirmed mafia.
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On March 16 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 05:24 austinmcc wrote:
No, never read WLIAA all the way through, apart from checking some filters when they were relevant to other games. Just take a browse through Crossfire's filter and look at the quality of his posts. Remember in PU he had a mason claim in his back pocket. The quality is higher than here. The quality is also higher in the newbie that I played with him than it is here.
But if you think he was super active, he's got 3 pages of filter there over like 8 or 9 days. Here he's almost filled 3. I do usually find his posts to have more stuffz, but WLIAA isn't really an example of him being super-active, as far as I can see by just vague stamp-math.
The activity is neither here nor there. I was just using him as an example though, as someone I'm not used to seeing spam thread whereas I'm used to more posts and whatnot from iamp. If you're pushing crossfire on me, you're gonna have a hard sell. You're looking at the nuke stuff differently than I am, and I get townier feelings from slOosh and crossfire than you do.
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We know how those feelings usually turn out
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On March 16 2013 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
We know how those feelings usually turn out
Well-played 
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The quality should show you something is wrong. I'd rather lynch sloosh over him just because if sloosh is scum it essentially confirms Cross as scum since the nuke would be his only saving grace.
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On March 16 2013 05:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 05:24 austinmcc wrote:
No, never read WLIAA all the way through, apart from checking some filters when they were relevant to other games. Just take a browse through Crossfire's filter and look at the quality of his posts. Remember in PU he had a mason claim in his back pocket. I was about to say that PU is not good comparison material, because he was confirmed town due to mason, so he could pretty much get away with murder. In MTG2 I pegged him as scum ridiculously easily. So he has either improved his game, or he's town. On D1 he looked like scum, but on D2 he had some insightful stuff, mainly about the nukes. Lets kill the scum we know before worrying about their partners. Associations should help... and the Cora associations are untrustworthy. I tried working from the assumption that Cora is town, but I just tie myself into wifom knots where I have conflicting beliefs about Foolishness and the use of the death miller thing. The whole exercise seems pointless and I end up agreeing that we should just ignore the whole flip and work from our reads without Cora associations, at least for now. Kill Foolishness. Work from there.
Unless scum has a medic/he is also vet(doubt it) he should be dead if the cell leader has read the thread at all. Might as well treat his as dead.
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By the way, one way or another I completely backed slOosh into a corner, so matter his alignment he was forced to do what he just did. I still find it quite likely he's mafia.
However we can judge him on the content he subsequently produces too.
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party sucked but I'm drunk now.
I'll try my best and not post anything.
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On March 16 2013 05:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
party sucked but I'm drunk now.
I'll try my best and not post anything.
Classic syllo
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On March 16 2013 05:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
We know how those feelings usually turn out Well-played
I still like to hear about your mafia-reads though. Just so far you're cycling through people I think are pretty likely to be town (Oats, iamp).
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Can I just, like, go afk this game until town realizes I'vce been right all game?
mk.
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I don't like to tell you to not be boring twice. It displeases me.
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On March 16 2013 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
I don't like to tell you to not be boring twice. It displeases me.
I'll make my cases if town REALLY needs them
but to be honest, I don't think people are listening to association cases right now, so I'd rather just wait until we get some flips out of Sloosh/Vivax/Foolish
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On March 16 2013 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
I don't like to tell you to not be boring twice. It displeases me.
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what do people think of mocsta? I just tried reading his filter but most of it is tunneled in on corazon, and for some reason I can't convince myself that's genuine. from cursory looks over nomination and newbie 37, he looks a lot less aggro and more wordy in both of those games, so i guess he is telling the truth about going in for the roleplaying this game? Makes it hard to get a meta read though, right? that actually kind of points toward town for me, since i feel like scum would feel more pressure to try and match up to their own meta, but obviously thats a weak point
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On March 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:
what do people think of mocsta? I just tried reading his filter but most of it is tunneled in on corazon, and for some reason I can't convince myself that's genuine. from cursory looks over nomination and newbie 37, he looks a lot less aggro and more wordy in both of those games, so i guess he is telling the truth about going in for the roleplaying this game? Makes it hard to get a meta read though, right? that actually kind of points toward town for me, since i feel like scum would feel more pressure to try and match up to their own meta, but obviously thats a weak point
Moc's posts about me SEEM genuine, but he might have just played off Cora intentionally when they were both mafia.
Idk, I doubt that he's scum, but he is a possibility. His lack of interest in this game is concerning.
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On March 16 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:
what do people think of mocsta? I just tried reading his filter but most of it is tunneled in on corazon, and for some reason I can't convince myself that's genuine. from cursory looks over nomination and newbie 37, he looks a lot less aggro and more wordy in both of those games, so i guess he is telling the truth about going in for the roleplaying this game? Makes it hard to get a meta read though, right? that actually kind of points toward town for me, since i feel like scum would feel more pressure to try and match up to their own meta, but obviously thats a weak point Moc's posts about me SEEM genuine, but he might have just played off Cora intentionally when they were both mafia. Idk, I doubt that he's scum, but he is a possibility. His lack of interest in this game is concerning.
I agree with this assessment. Probably town, to be looked at again if other more likely options go awry.
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On March 15 2013 12:08 cDgCorazon wrote:
GG =)
so which townie would qouth "GG =)"
when instead of town scum flipped he
is this a green?
that it does not seem
with that conclusion his smilies disagree
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On March 16 2013 05:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 05:50 austinmcc wrote:On March 16 2013 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
We know how those feelings usually turn out Well-played I still like to hear about your mafia-reads though. Just so far you're cycling through people I think are pretty likely to be town (Oats, iamp). Yeah, I don't love a lot of the options.
I end up coming to something odd like Foolishness/Vivax/risk.nuke/?/iamp, or replacing iamp with another. I have ideas about ?, but that has to wait.
risk sticks out because I couldn't get a solid read on him yesterday, and strongandbig's tally of townie/scummy points kind of summed up my feelings nicely. But looking back over him today, I get a stronger vibe. Specifically, here's basically the sum total of risk.nuke since he partway through yesterday:
On March 14 2013 19:24 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 19:16 risk.nuke wrote:
No, Foolishness haven't done anything to impress me. His longer posts are mostly just roleplaying fluff and It's not enough to convince me. The fact that his claimed role sounds like bullshit is just a bonus.
Vivax is playing like a retard. There in lies the problem because I have a hard time cyphering if he's scum playing like a retard as a shield to excuse himself or if he really just is stupid.
I wouldn't like to lynch yamato either at this point.
I might be swayed to lynch Crossfire or Cora.
Actually, I'll revalue my secondary lynch candidates. TBC Here's him voluntarily saying "Ah, I'll reconsider my reads." He never does. He responds to my post on him, strongandbig's post on him, but he doesn't ever do this. He's got no interest in the lynch, more or less, and no interest in really being up front with his reads, which is disturbing to me.
The reads that he DOES have are...not impressive.
On March 14 2013 19:16 risk.nuke wrote:
Vivax is playing like a retard. There in lies the problem because I have a hard time cyphering if he's scum playing like a retard as a shield to excuse himself or if he really just is stupid.
On March 15 2013 02:12 risk.nuke wrote:
Sloosh's role and they way he used it (while dumb and mostly chaotic) is both a townrole and he used it in a way that provided the town with information. Pretty certain he is town.
Acrofales firsts posts are scummy. His later post gets better and he appears to be scumhunting but not strictly in a way that's hard for mafia to do, I don't have enough information to determine if it's legitimate yet. I don't want to lynch him yet. I think in time he will prove himself town or get caught.
This is really it. Vivax might be scum. Acro might be scum. slOosh is town, foolishness is mafia (not shown), and cora/cross I will re-evaluate but never do.
So he's both not making real reads, and promising reads that never come. But beyond the reads, here are his reactions to the lynch and to cora's 2nd flip.
On March 15 2013 16:37 risk.nuke wrote:
So foolish actually was unlynchable. I don't think he's town from how he's playing and but now I'm not to sure he's scum based on him actually being unlynchable with the general consensus to kill him and letting cdg get killed in his stead. Which leaves third party.
On March 16 2013 00:08 risk.nuke wrote:
So do we trust that announcement or the daypost?
Grey, you didn't mess up in the daypost did you? And again, single comment on the lynch. Single comment on the announcement this morning, which isn't even a comment. "Which do we trust?" is ... a very tame way to look at someone flipping two different alignments, and at all the discussion that followed.
I don't know what amount of activity or reads or posts or anything is reasonable to tell town risk from scum risk. What I know is that he's basically done jack, and some of the points where he chimes in dont' look like anything at all. Question + no follow-up to someone flipping TWICE. Not curious. Feels even less than unsure, because he doesn't appear to ACTUALLY be trying to figure out how he wants to interpret the flip. Just to chime in, make it seem like he don't know whassup, and then go byebye.
I like scumrisk way more than scumslOosh.
+ Show Spoiler +SUPER MEGA BONUS POINT: risk is one of the few playes that Foolishness ever comments on. Shortly after nuking yamato, Foolishness drops On March 13 2013 18:53 Foolishness wrote:
risk.nuke is clean as long as he stays active. Earlier Foolishness said: You have any other reads since then? As I said in the thread, if risk.nuke keeps up activity level then he's town. If he keeps posting at the rate he has been posting at he's mafia. He has done this thing before (go inactive and act suspicious for a day). When he's town he will come back and be active and redeem himself. I wouldn't vigi him yet, but he'd be a good person to look at in another day or two. Only two times he appears in Foolishness's filter. Read is based PURELY on activity. After nuking yamato he just offhandedly comments on risk, drops it.
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On March 16 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote:On March 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:
what do people think of mocsta? I just tried reading his filter but most of it is tunneled in on corazon, and for some reason I can't convince myself that's genuine. from cursory looks over nomination and newbie 37, he looks a lot less aggro and more wordy in both of those games, so i guess he is telling the truth about going in for the roleplaying this game? Makes it hard to get a meta read though, right? that actually kind of points toward town for me, since i feel like scum would feel more pressure to try and match up to their own meta, but obviously thats a weak point Moc's posts about me SEEM genuine, but he might have just played off Cora intentionally when they were both mafia. Idk, I doubt that he's scum, but he is a possibility. His lack of interest in this game is concerning. I agree with this assessment. Probably town, to be looked at again if other more likely options go awry.
I think him a greenie
a bit of a weanie
bu nothing to worry about
his ideas I'd tout
especially mine: Rick getting the fourth beanie.
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