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On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.
Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.
Mafia seems stacked. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.
Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.
cool story bro. guess that's why they let us see the real flip first. Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass. Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.
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On March 16 2013 00:55 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.
Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job. On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.
Mafia seems stacked. On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good. On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.
On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.
Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass. Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.
cool story bro. guess that's why they let us see the real flip first.
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I can't wait for Foolish to come back in here and tell us how dumb we all are and how I'm manipulating town.
Just the thought gives me anticipatory shivers.
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Lol whatever, I'm now gonna roleplay as Ace for the remainder of the game.
If town aren't critical enough and just eat up bullshit after bullshit they don't deserve to win. I don't care if all my reads are wrong. This is fundamentally retarded.
STUPID DANDELION CLAIMED MEDIC AND SANDROBA IS PROTECTING SYLLO BUT HE DIED AND SUDDENLY MARV IS SYLLO WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT?
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On March 16 2013 00:58 slOosh wrote:
Lol whatever, I'm now gonna roleplay as Ace for the remainder of the game.
If town aren't critical enough and just eat up bullshit after bullshit they don't deserve to win. I don't care if all my reads are wrong. This is fundamentally retarded.
STUPID DANDELION CLAIMED MEDIC AND SANDROBA IS PROTECTING SYLLO BUT HE DIED AND SUDDENLY MARV IS SYLLO WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT?
Apologies, I said slOosh. I in fact meant slOosh. My mistake.
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On March 16 2013 00:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Seriously where the fuck am I. I wish I hadn't to post this much but if you don't marv infests others. So you have absolutely nothing to say about the fact that almost exactly this same thing happened in Personality 1? No?
I'll trust both hosts telling me it's a fact. If they trolled me I don't know, but that's the choice I make.
Did the hosts comment on the flip in personality? I don't think so cause it wasn't delayed as far as I grasp.
And if the hosts comment on it here it's reason enough to believe it. Else they would just drop the announcement and not comment on it.
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On March 16 2013 00:58 slOosh wrote:
Lol whatever, I'm now gonna roleplay as Ace for the remainder of the game.
If town aren't critical enough and just eat up bullshit after bullshit they don't deserve to win. I don't care if all my reads are wrong. This is fundamentally retarded.
STUPID DANDELION CLAIMED MEDIC AND SANDROBA IS PROTECTING SYLLO BUT HE DIED AND SUDDENLY MARV IS SYLLO WHAT THE CRAP IS THAT?
It's fairly obvious. sandro and syllogism are buttbuddies (in the nicest way possible). Therefore sandroba (dandel) decides who is syllogism to protect, because they are buttbuddies.
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On March 16 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Seriously where the fuck am I. I wish I hadn't to post this much but if you don't marv infests others. So you have absolutely nothing to say about the fact that almost exactly this same thing happened in Personality 1? No? I'll trust both hosts telling me it's a fact. If they trolled me I don't know, but that's the choice I make. Did the hosts comment on the flip in personality? I don't think so cause it wasn't delayed as far as I grasp. And if the hosts comment on it here it's reason enough to believe it. Else they would just drop the announcement and not comment on it.
Why are you resorting to predicting Hosts actions in a way that makes no sense in order to prove your point?
All you are saying against this is, YOU ARE WRONG LOOLOOL.
Marv has provided actual explanation as to how this happens. You didnt.
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Anyone not particular sure what just happened gets some townie points in my book.
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On March 16 2013 00:44 HiroPro wrote:
yea they framed bumatlarge day 2. he's mafia in the OP, town in the endgame post.
oh okay phew
still think that a power that changes the op is ridic.
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On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.
Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.
Mafia seems stacked. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.
Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.
Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass. Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.
thats why they made the role so much weaker
like are you serious right now? "untouched"?
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On March 16 2013 01:02 austinmcc wrote:
Anyone not particular sure what just happened gets some townie points in my book.
yes I agree. But have to check whether it's genuine as well.
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Hm that actually makes sense.
Didn't know such a role exists, seems stupid strong.
Then again another scum can't get lynched and stuff, so apparantly they like scum to be stupid strong.
Okay.
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On March 16 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT's post may be treated as fact.
it may be treated as fact
it may also be treated as not fact
this is a carefully worded comment imo
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On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:18 flamewheel wrote:
The planting ability was amazingly powerful, and sadly that's all I contributed to this game.
Kudos to my team; you guys did a good job. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
Looking from an outside perspective the mafia roles look really, really strong, especially the death framer. The tratior getting a free town kill when lynched is also... odd, I mean he lynches BC in his place, gets a free kp and forces the town to have to somehow kill him? That seems really, really strong. Not to mention the bomberman being a free extra kp, or the suicide bombers destructive potential.
Mafia seems stacked. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 13:30 Mig wrote:
Yea the mafia roles are godlike. A bomb kp every single night. A role thief. A scum doctor. A puppetmaster. Pandain is gf + can permanently remove town powers. Syllo was fucking rber and admiral ackbar combined into one role, so anytime he was about to be lynched he could always suicide and kill the best town player. And then to top it off death framer is unreal good. Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:40 Curu wrote:
Overall from scum I think the Bombmaker + Flip Framer were too ridiculous. Not to excuse Town's shoddy play and it's understandable that they neeed strong roles to compensate for everyone in Town having a power, but some of them were so ridiculous that they weren't ever going to be used - Vig that dies to a mishot, Vig that dies if he guesses role/alignment wrong, my own ability was purely luck based, and so on.
Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 04:09 Ace wrote:On August 23 2011 19:48 Curu wrote:
Pandain/Palmar were obvious lynches if bum had flipped correctly but the Framer fucked up everything from that trail too.
Maybe you should take that up with Ver and Incog. Death Millers, or any role that flips the opposite alignment on death is generally a bad thing as the Town is going to have incorrect reads for the rest of the game in relation to that player. Mafia of course gets a free pass. Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No.
It's not untouched. We got a 12 hour warning. We just have to decide which flip to believe. Was the death framer active for the first 12 hours, or did it only kick in after 12 hours?
Given my read on Cora, I think he was scum and has now been death framed to green. His play was scummy, he flipped red. It all makes sense.
Hopefully KP will tell us something, but scum *could* mess around with that. All I can do is go off my reads, which is that Cora was scum and has been death framed with a 12 hour delay.
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Scum could have a scum-vig. Who knows. *shrug*
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Vivax does your role have a veteran power built into it?
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Also Marv after everything that has transpired, where do you sit on Cross? He still hasn't done anything but I'm having trouble seeing how he would fit into a Sumatran at this point.
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On March 16 2013 01:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Vivax does your role have a veteran power built into it?
First time I see you since jurassic and you ask me a question about my role that shouldn't concern you at all if you're town.
Dafuq
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On March 16 2013 01:23 Stutters695 wrote:
Also Marv after everything that has transpired, where do you sit on Cross? He still hasn't done anything but I'm having trouble seeing how he would fit into a Sumatran at this point.
if slOosh is mafia there's a pretty decent chance Crossfire is mafia.
Crossfire would have known he was perfectly safe launching a nuke at Foolishness.
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