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On January 08 2013 05:13 ThomasjServo wrote: Few other places will you see beards of such glory.
Nothing more American than long, scruffy facial hair. Finely coupled with southern accents and apple pie, and you'll find yourself cookin' with peanut oil, "Jack!"
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Hey, if you want something done right. Hey, don't ask me.
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On January 08 2013 05:23 ShamW0W wrote: Hey, if you want something done right. Hey, don't ask me.
Added to Si's quotes. Thanks for the contribution!
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As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
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On November 29 2012 02:33 Caihead wrote: Hmm, I have an honest question.
What exactly do present day Americans actually identify themselves with? What is the quote "ideal" or "idyllic" unquote American lifestyle? Because depending on who you ask, it could range anywhere between Rednecks-off-roading-and conservative Christianity, to comfortable high income urban suburb. I honestly don't think that there is such a great cultural disparity in other Countries which despite difference in monetary income classes still maintains some congruence in its cultural self-image.
I ask this because it feels very odd to say that a specific lifestyle is very "American" when people frequently label entire ranges and spectrum of lifestyles as "American" and dismiss ranges of lifestyles lie on the same spectrum as "un-American" which to the casual observer just seems schizophrenic.
Lol, I don't think any American would argue that your question is unfair. Observing fellows have even wondered that from the inside.
I do almost nothing these guys on the show do (Just watched my first episode a couple weeks ago. My friends said I had to [live in Mississippi btw]). However, I can totally relate to them all the same. It's not just about what you, yourself, do. You have to include all kinds of family, friends, relatives. As diverse as America is, the typical family is almost no different.
I think when we say something is "American" though, we are only saying something that is, not necessarily unique, but perhaps originated in America was merely made 'famous' in America. Maybe even something we like to claim.
Just like when we watch a local parade and there are a bunch of folks playing the bagpipes. They are American as can be, but still, people in the crowd, they're reminded of the Irish. Why? I don't know. But, you're welcome Ireland, you get that one. Lol.
People riding horses around shooting each other? We get that one. It is what it is.
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On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
Pretty sure the show intends to depict rednecks who happen to live in Louisiana, rather than Louisianians who happen to be rednecks (which is what I believe you're suggesting). I've been to the state; the Robertsons are the minority if you ask me.
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On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb.
I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you?
Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart.
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So excited to see this thread. My wife and I have been watching this show for a little while now, and I can tell you that the Robertsons are my heroes!!
Best show ever :D
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On January 08 2013 06:08 danl9rm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys. See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb. I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you? Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart.
Gonna be nitpicky on the words here (sorry in advance): perhaps the Robertsons aren't "smart" as much as they are "wise." They apply their past experiences, and others' history too, to the current world around them. They even admit that the only man with a college degree is Willie, and that Phil got straight C's in high school. Yet they seem to know a lot about the "big picture" of the world, so to speak. Like, they are not the folks you are going to call to fix your Internet, lol. But they are very keenly aware of how the world, of how humans, tend to operate. Their wisdom, Papa Phil's in particular, shines through time and time again after every conflict the family is confronted with. It may not be pretty and it probably won't work the first few times, but eventually, it somehow proves effective.
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Phil was the quarterback at LA Tech ahead of Terry Bradshaw, apparently. He's a redneck, but he's not clueless about the world.
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On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
I don't think of them as "idiots", they are just quirky. It's no swamp people, that's for sure. Most of the shit in this show they say actually makes quite a bit of sense if you think about it.
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On January 08 2013 06:29 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 06:08 danl9rm wrote:On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys. See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb. I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you? Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart. Gonna be nitpicky on the words here (sorry in advance): perhaps the Robertsons aren't "smart" as much as they are "wise." They apply their past experiences, and others' history too, to the current world around them. They even admit that the only man with a college degree is Willie, and that Phil got straight C's in high school. Yet they seem to know a lot about the "big picture" of the world, so to speak. Like, they are not the folks you are going to call to fix your Internet, lol. But they are very keenly aware of how the world, of how humans, tend to operate. Their wisdom, Papa Phil's in particular, shines through time and time again after every conflict the family is confronted with. It may not be pretty and it probably won't work the first few times, but eventually, it somehow proves effective.
I don't think you're being 'nitpicky' at all. Those are certainly two very different words. I agree, I do think there is some degree of wisdom that they share. I mean, compared to other shows, I think there is an abundance. I still think they're fairly smart, though.
edit: That could just be me comparing myself to them! LOL
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First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
I'd say about 50% of the people in my corner of the world act and talk like these guys;dressed up in camo and marshboots everywhere they go. Hunting, farming, and fishing are very important parts of our southern culture. I realize it might be hard for you guys to see it, but the people on this show are extremely bright. I know dumb rednecks and I know smart rednecks. These guys are definitely intelligent.
Growing out their beards and staying in full camo while in public isn't a sign of ignorance. It's more like a "we don't give a fuck what you think" attitude.
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On January 08 2013 06:47 Dienosore wrote: I'd say about 50% of the people in my corner of the world act and talk like these guys;dressed up in camo and marshboots everywhere they go. Hunting, farming, and fishing are very important parts of our southern culture. I realize it might be hard for you guys to see it, but the people on this show are extremely bright. I know dumb rednecks and I know smart rednecks. These guys are definitely intelligent.
Growing out their beards and staying in full camo while in public isn't a sign of ignorance. It's more like a "we don't give a fuck what you think" attitude.
Haha! I like that interpretation! :-D
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This show is just so witty! I love it! It also provides clean entertainment that my parents don't mind me watching because they are pretty strict about that. Not to mention it also fills my Friday nights due to my lack of social life
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Its a lot funnier when you have relatives who act this way. Its also really disturbing thinking that I'm related to people like that :X.
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Hmmm, I never watched this show myself, but maybe I should start. As a Cajun (even those these guys are from northern Louisiana), it naturally piques my interest, and my brother has a high regard for the show (and we both hate Swamp People, and other similar "Cajun" shows)...so maybe it ain't so bad. The TL thread gives me more a reason.
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On January 08 2013 08:50 Whole wrote: Hmmm, I never watched this show myself, but maybe I should start. As a Cajun (even those these guys are from northern Louisiana), it naturally piques my interest, and my brother has a high regard for the show (and we both hate Swamp People, and other similar "Cajun" shows)...so maybe it ain't so bad. The TL thread gives me more a reason.
Recommend you at least watch 2-3 episodes to get yourself a feel for the show. If you want specific episodes that I'd personally recommend, PM me.
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On January 08 2013 06:00 danl9rm wrote: Just like when we watch a local parade and there are a bunch of folks playing the bagpipes. They are American as can be, but still, people in the crowd, they're reminded of the Irish. Why? I don't know. But, you're welcome Ireland, you get that one. Lol. There are things wrong with this statement.
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