You hear about that new TV show that everyone's jabberin' about? The one with witty quips, reckless antics, and infamously frizzly facial hair? The "reality show" saga about a family of Louisiana hunters that have turned their duck-call-making business into a multi-million dollar empire? That television program that puts a southern twang in your voice after you watch it, whether you want it or not? (more often when not )
It's:
I bet most of TL has not heard of this show, so I’ve put together an introduction of sorts to give you all a primer before diving into the series.
In the Bayou State's backwoods, no family is more renowned than the Robertson clan. Years ago, Duck Commander, a grassroots company that sold hand-crafted, super-effective duck calls for avid hunters, was founded by a Phil Robertson. Something about his calls brought out more than game; raving customers have enlarged the business to a veritable empire in the hunting world.
Now, the company is headed by Phil's son, Willie, the current CEO of Duck Commander, and employed by the whole family and a fair portion of the local neighborhood. But it's tough to get down to business when the entire Robertson clan just wants to run hog wild. This is how Duck Dynasty is precluded, and where their ongoing story continues: about a family with adventures to unfold, opportunities to attend to, and enough money to make everything happen.
Cast:
Willie Robertson, "The CEO"
Let me tell you about redneck logic. If you want to take something away from a redneck, just blow it up. He's gonna be so enamored with the fire, he'll forget about what he's losing.
Willie is in charge of running Duck Commander. Much of his time is spent in the office making deals with potential clients or scheming some way to nab more money. He is frequently teased by the rest of the family for his prominent use of technology, and supposed lack of interest that would require being out in the wild or manual labor. Willie is married to Korie, and is father to Rebecca, John Luke, Sadie, Will, and Bella Robertson (though John Luke and Sadie are the only ones that get much air time).
Jase Robertson, "The Brother"
You can talk any redneck into a challenge. That's why so many rednecks die in strange ways.
Jase is Willie's greatest antagonist. A through-and-through redneck at heart, nature flows through his veins and "duckanese" runs off his tongue. Jase's favorite pastime is frog-catching, which he is highly proficient at, and is employed as the company's duck call "designer," if you will; he is a master at creating the best calls for the business. Whenever Willie appears too inundated with his technology, Jase is there to make a point about ridiculing his brother or challenging him to a trite contest between brothers. Jase is married to Missy, who are parents to Reed, Cole, and Mia Robertson.
Phil Robertson, "Papa Phil"
The more makeup a woman wears, the more she's tryin' to hide. Makeup can hide a lot of evil.
Phil is the founder of Duck Commander, though he's passed the business down to Willie to run. Retired, he spends many of his days out on a duck hunt with Si, tasting his wife Miss Kay's delicious home cooking, or resting and quietly observing in his personal reclining chair. Based on his own experience, he believes the old, traditional ways of doing things have an uncanny way of working out in the end; he always seems to have an old adage or proverb to apply to a given situation, and he tries his best to teach his young grandchildren his wisdom and advice. However, because of this, he has a nasty disinclination towards change of any type. Phil is married to Kay, and is "Papa" to Alan, Jase, Willie, and Jep Robertson. (Alan is never on-air and Jep makes very minor appearances in episodes)
Silus Robertson, "Uncle Si"
I'm like Aretha Franklin. I don't get any R-S-P-E-C-T 'round this joint.
Unforgettable Uncle Si is the craziest of the Robertson bunch. A Vietnam War veteran, he constantly recalls war stories (which he insists he tells with “95% truthfulness”) or old quips that he believes are current, but have really died away decades ago, such as “Cowabunga!” or “It’s on like Donkey Kong!” Kind of like a reverse hipster. + Show Spoiler +
Retro, maybe? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Si is a man of mystery, constantly surprising even the eldest of the Robertsons with his quirks and odd talents. Like, he can sew, he can pontificate, heck he can even... uh... yeah. Si is Phil’s brother, and uncle to Willie, Jase, and Jep.
Kay Robertson, "Miss Kay"
Eatin' squirrel brains is where ya get your smarts.
Miss Kay is not quite as “active” as the other members of the family. You won’t find her trouncing through the woods looking for beaver dams or hunting squirrels in the treetops. Where you will find her, however, is in the kitchen. Miss Kay is the master chef of the family, and most of her time is spent, admittedly, cooking up lots and lots of tasty food from the kitchen. While some see this as a deplorable occupation, Miss Kay truly enjoys it, thrives on it even; Phil married her not for her looks, but for her cooking, and she can cook reeeeaaaal good. Miss Kay has been the wife of Phil Robertson since the age of 16, and is mother to Alan, Willie, Jase, and Jep.
So... Why?
This thread is hereby dedicated to the appreciation and discussion of the show. Why should it have a thread, you will likely ask? I believe there is a lot to be learned from this program. Each episode features one or two quandaries that lead to conflict of some variety within the family. At the end of each show, however, everyone gathers around the dinner table, Papa Phil says a prayer thanking God for "another day on this earth," and everyone digs in to Miss Kay's home-cooked meal while Willie shares the episode's particular lesson. It all has a very "American" feel to it, expressing traditional values in a current-day setting. Something about this program expresses a culture one can only find in the United States. No matter the differences or conflicts between certain members, they can always come back to the table to reaffirm each other as family that, in general, gets along just fine.
Surprisingly, the show is also remarkably clean. Despite the occasional skinned animal or slightly inappropriate word (e.g. "damn," "hell," or "crap"), Duck Dynasty only offers clean, wholesome, and family-friendly entertainment, with a cast that provides a very sincere, blatant, straight-forward, and practical "down-to-Earth" view on life.
I sincerely believe wisdom can be gleaned from this series. May this thread serve as the outlet for such conversation.
Poll: Who's your favorite "beard?" (character)
Uncle Si (41)
49%
Jase (27)
33%
Phil (11)
13%
Willie (4)
5%
83 total votes
Your vote: Who's your favorite "beard?" (character)
Today, with computers, you know, if you're datin' some lil' ol' gal, you can't even smell her. Girls smell nice!
Hey, look here, beavers. You better hide your wives, hide your husbands, and look here, both of you hide your kids!
A beaver is about like the ninjas. The suckers only work at night and they're hard to find.
There's two types of people in the world: education and unducated.
First it's pretty tires, then it's pretty guns, next thing you know, you're shavin' your beard and wearin' Capri pants!
My mind, it's wide open. It's like a hollow tunnel of air.
Boys, I will hurt you. Physically and meta-physically.
We was tryin' to enlighten these city slickers. I told 'em about Vietnam. (on talking to grade school kids at Career Day)
Couple of hand motions, and I'll snatch the underwear right off your butt.
I've always beena ladies' man.
You never insult a man's beard. You're fixin' to get either thunder or lightnin'. Either one.
I know all the new phrases: "cowabunga," "radical," "cat's pajamas," "duh," and "hey, homie don't play that!"
I'm like an owl. I don't give a hoot.
That thing will take the hair off a dolphin's chest. And lookie here, have you ever looked at a dolphin's chest? Hey, that boy has fine chest hair.
I am the MacGyver of cooking. If you bring me a piece of bread, cabbage, coconut, mustard greens, pigs feet, pine cones...and a woodpecker, I'll make you a good chicken pot pie.
This is scien-tistic stuff, boys! on the "family wine"
Fred Astaire's got nothing on me.
I'm down like a rodeo clown!
Hey, if you want something done right. Hey, don't ask me.
Phil
When you see a bunch of grown men chasing chickens around a subdivision, I'd say America is making a comeback.
I'm a low-tech man in a high-tech world.
Uptown living, you've got to call 911. Where I am, I am 911.
Ducks are like women. They don't like a lot of mud on their butts.
Whether you're talkin' about bees, dogs, or women, pain can come up on you quickly....
Better a good day's catch of fish than a lifetime of crabs.
Women with whiskers.... It's a bummer.
"Oh, we'll just live off love." Not really, you'll starve to death.
My idea of happiness is killin' things.
I want my grandkids to grow up in the great outdoors. The last thing I want is for them to grow up to be nerds.
Willie
I didn't get the sophisticated gene in this family. I started the sophisticated gene in this family.
Redneck law: Must have a gun. Must shoot it regularly.
You ain't a redneck 'less you OFF the road.
Jase
Where I come from, you don't mess with another man's woman, or his hat.
Most people named "Willie" are either in prison or on the arm wrestling circuit.
Frog catching is the most fun a human being can have while on this earth.
There's a fine line between insanity and coping with your daughter dating.
Ms. Kay
I don't know about this "Justin the Beaver." on Justin Bieber
You're not a proper woman unless you own a goat or two.
When to watch: Wednesdays at 10 P.M. Eastern on A&E. Where to view previous episodes: A&E online.
NEXT EPISODES: "Shot Thru the Heart" and "Here Lizard, Lizard."
Season 3 confirmed. (Source.) February 27 is the supposed premiere date.
I tried watching it, watched one episode. Never again.
Unfortunately I have a huge distaste for fake reality series, this one is no exception. It's too over the top and downright phony (Which is the intention of the show, but come on). I also feel that it portrays Southerners as morons, with that played out redneck stereotype.
Absolute trash. We have enough of these garbage shows, it isn't real, it isn't funny, it isn't art.
I met some pretty stupid rednecks, some that didn't even know how to use a computer, some lived in broken down wooden shacks and their only source of income was stealing and welfare. But even they have more intelligence than the characters portrayed on this show. GARBAGE.
Whoever produced this show is laughing at Americans, I'm sure of it. Ive met people living in huts on the plains here in Australia that still speak better English then these idiots.
As someone who is a, knows a lot of, and is related to a lot of rednecks this show is fairly accurate.
theres a script to it but its about as accurate as deadlist catch and a lot of those other shows that came from it. I've actualy used their duck calls and they're really good compared to what else was on the market for the longest time. A real nice american small business sucess story.
On November 29 2012 00:16 mordek wrote: Is there an Uncle Si fan club? Homie don't play that!
Si would have to play StarCraft for that, unfortunately. Though I think he would choose Terran as his race. Run around with Hellions all day, probably remind him of his days in 'Nam, lol.
Haha so let it be written, so let it be done. I must say I do enjoy this show, it makes for simple viewing entertainment. It and Hardcore Pawn are the only two shows of this pseudo reality genre I like.
Haha people in huts in Australia speak better English. I actually find a lot of the comments witty. You can tell it's scripted but it's amusing which is the entire point. I wouldn't be watching tv otherwise
Also, I met the guy who does the little instrumental interludes for the show last week before Thanksgiving Fun fact.
What exactly do present day Americans actually identify themselves with? What is the quote "ideal" or "idyllic" unquote American lifestyle? Because depending on who you ask, it could range anywhere between Rednecks-off-roading-and conservative Christianity, to comfortable high income urban suburb. I honestly don't think that there is such a great cultural disparity in other Countries which despite difference in monetary income classes still maintains some congruence in its cultural self-image.
I ask this because it feels very odd to say that a specific lifestyle is very "American" when people frequently label entire ranges and spectrum of lifestyles as "American" and dismiss ranges of lifestyles lie on the same spectrum as "un-American" which to the casual observer just seems schizophrenic.
I think it's because you don't find that culture anywhere else but America? America is a big place so it's not surprising there is a wide spectrum of ideal lifestyles present in America.
Edit: I'm assuming this is coming from the quote in the OP?
It all has a very "American" feel to it, expressing traditional values in a current-day setting.
On November 29 2012 02:36 mordek wrote: I think it's because you don't find that culture anywhere else but America? America is a big place so it's not surprising there is a wide spectrum of ideal lifestyles present in America.
Edit: I'm assuming this is coming from the quote in the OP?
It all has a very "American" feel to it, expressing traditional values in a current-day setting.
It's disingenuous to say that you can't find that culture any where else because America is always willing to import and export its culture and has done so for decades. Go to present day corporate interest torn Brazil where the rain forest's been destroyed and replaced with nothing and you will find modern American Cow boy culture which America stole from Mexico in the first place for example.
On November 29 2012 02:33 Caihead wrote: Hmm, I have an honest question.
What exactly do present day Americans actually identify themselves with? What is the quote "ideal" or "idyllic" unquote American lifestyle? Because depending on who you ask, it could range anywhere between Rednecks-off-roading-and conservative Christianity, to comfortable high income urban suburb. I honestly don't think that there is such a great cultural disparity in other Countries which despite difference in monetary income classes still maintains some congruence in its cultural self-image.
I ask this because it feels very odd to say that a specific lifestyle is very "American" when people frequently label entire ranges and spectrum of lifestyles as "American" and dismiss ranges of lifestyles lie on the same spectrum as "un-American" which to the casual observer just seems schizophrenic.
People who speak of things being "un-American" are usually speaking about principles and not about lifestyle. I've never really heard anyone call a lifestyle or culture "un-American."
And you are right there is no real American culture and lifestyle. There used to be, but we've thrown out the whole "melting pot" concept and now advocate a "salad bowl" concept where everyone retains distinct cultures and lifestyles. Unfortunately this causes some divisions in society and results in a lot of identity politics, etc. But there is still much uniformity within certain geographic areas, ie. where urban or redneck are idealized.
On November 29 2012 02:36 mordek wrote: I think it's because you don't find that culture anywhere else but America? America is a big place so it's not surprising there is a wide spectrum of ideal lifestyles present in America.
Edit: I'm assuming this is coming from the quote in the OP?
It all has a very "American" feel to it, expressing traditional values in a current-day setting.
Caihead is right in that America is indeed a melting pot, or as jd sees it as a salad bowl, in that there are many, many cultures all cohabiting together on our soil. However, amidst all that, there seems to be (in my view anyway) a distinctly unique culture/lifestyle expressed by the Robertsons in Duck Dynasty that you'll be hard-pressed to identify elsewhere. It is very likely based on the mannerisms of many other cultures and societies, but I'd argue the whole thing originated in the States.
Willie pushes his work force too far after implementing new "motivational work tactics," and the guys rise up against him and go on strike. But creating a picket line Duck Commander-style isn't as effective as they hoped. Miss Kay decides to take her home cookin' to the streets of West Monroe with her very own food truck.
I am still perusing the 'webs for a way to watch this online. This is one of the very few instances that I wish I had cable.... T_T
Edit: TVrage says there's a second episode, called "Drag Me To Glory."
On November 29 2012 02:36 mordek wrote: I think it's because you don't find that culture anywhere else but America? America is a big place so it's not surprising there is a wide spectrum of ideal lifestyles present in America.
Edit: I'm assuming this is coming from the quote in the OP?
It all has a very "American" feel to it, expressing traditional values in a current-day setting.
Caihead is right in that America is indeed a melting pot, or as jd sees it as a salad bowl, in that there are many, many cultures all cohabiting together on our soil. However, amidst all that, there seems to be (in my view anyway) a distinctly unique culture/lifestyle expressed by the Robertsons in Duck Dynasty that you'll be hard-pressed to identify elsewhere. It is very likely based on the mannerisms of many other cultures and societies, but I'd argue the whole thing originated in the States.
Yeah I wouldn't disagree with any of that. I just am not aware of another place on this earth where people have the same mannerisms and values displayed in Duck Dynasty. It's not that I care or thinks it's the coolest thing to be unique, I'm just unaware. If Brazil is that place I've been shown wrong, just trying to answer why I would think of it as "American" despite that very term meaning a million things and nothing all at the same time it seems.
On January 08 2013 05:13 ThomasjServo wrote: Few other places will you see beards of such glory.
Nothing more American than long, scruffy facial hair. Finely coupled with southern accents and apple pie, and you'll find yourself cookin' with peanut oil, "Jack!"
As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
On November 29 2012 02:33 Caihead wrote: Hmm, I have an honest question.
What exactly do present day Americans actually identify themselves with? What is the quote "ideal" or "idyllic" unquote American lifestyle? Because depending on who you ask, it could range anywhere between Rednecks-off-roading-and conservative Christianity, to comfortable high income urban suburb. I honestly don't think that there is such a great cultural disparity in other Countries which despite difference in monetary income classes still maintains some congruence in its cultural self-image.
I ask this because it feels very odd to say that a specific lifestyle is very "American" when people frequently label entire ranges and spectrum of lifestyles as "American" and dismiss ranges of lifestyles lie on the same spectrum as "un-American" which to the casual observer just seems schizophrenic.
Lol, I don't think any American would argue that your question is unfair. Observing fellows have even wondered that from the inside.
I do almost nothing these guys on the show do (Just watched my first episode a couple weeks ago. My friends said I had to [live in Mississippi btw]). However, I can totally relate to them all the same. It's not just about what you, yourself, do. You have to include all kinds of family, friends, relatives. As diverse as America is, the typical family is almost no different.
I think when we say something is "American" though, we are only saying something that is, not necessarily unique, but perhaps originated in America was merely made 'famous' in America. Maybe even something we like to claim.
Just like when we watch a local parade and there are a bunch of folks playing the bagpipes. They are American as can be, but still, people in the crowd, they're reminded of the Irish. Why? I don't know. But, you're welcome Ireland, you get that one. Lol.
People riding horses around shooting each other? We get that one. It is what it is.
On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
Pretty sure the show intends to depict rednecks who happen to live in Louisiana, rather than Louisianians who happen to be rednecks (which is what I believe you're suggesting). I've been to the state; the Robertsons are the minority if you ask me.
On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb.
I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you?
Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart.
So excited to see this thread. My wife and I have been watching this show for a little while now, and I can tell you that the Robertsons are my heroes!!
On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb.
I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you?
Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart.
Gonna be nitpicky on the words here (sorry in advance): perhaps the Robertsons aren't "smart" as much as they are "wise." They apply their past experiences, and others' history too, to the current world around them. They even admit that the only man with a college degree is Willie, and that Phil got straight C's in high school. Yet they seem to know a lot about the "big picture" of the world, so to speak. Like, they are not the folks you are going to call to fix your Internet, lol. But they are very keenly aware of how the world, of how humans, tend to operate. Their wisdom, Papa Phil's in particular, shines through time and time again after every conflict the family is confronted with. It may not be pretty and it probably won't work the first few times, but eventually, it somehow proves effective.
On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
I don't think of them as "idiots", they are just quirky. It's no swamp people, that's for sure. Most of the shit in this show they say actually makes quite a bit of sense if you think about it.
On January 08 2013 05:41 ImAbstracT wrote: As someone who is cajun and from Louisiana (these guys are not too far from me) I hate the show. This includes Swamp People as well. They make it seem like a vast majority of us are country idiots. A LARGE majority of people are nothing like these guys.
See, people keep saying this... but after watching a few episodes... why do people think they're so dumb? They seem pretty intelligent to me. They are all very witty. They're clearly "successful" (by today's standard). And, I duno, make up a point 3. edit: Hunting and trapping is an entirely separate skill unto itself. Intelligence helps your hunting just like it helps anywhere else. I think people that have never hunted, or know squat about it, just picture aiming a gun at a deer in the distance and wrapping things up 10 minutes later. Whatever, I don't get why people keep saying they're so dumb.
I think some of you guys just don't like it when people don't act like you want them to. They are doing their own thing. What's it to you?
Of course the show is "scripted," but not every single line is written. They are who they are, I think that's clear, and it comes out. I think they're hilarious - and smart.
Gonna be nitpicky on the words here (sorry in advance): perhaps the Robertsons aren't "smart" as much as they are "wise." They apply their past experiences, and others' history too, to the current world around them. They even admit that the only man with a college degree is Willie, and that Phil got straight C's in high school. Yet they seem to know a lot about the "big picture" of the world, so to speak. Like, they are not the folks you are going to call to fix your Internet, lol. But they are very keenly aware of how the world, of how humans, tend to operate. Their wisdom, Papa Phil's in particular, shines through time and time again after every conflict the family is confronted with. It may not be pretty and it probably won't work the first few times, but eventually, it somehow proves effective.
I don't think you're being 'nitpicky' at all. Those are certainly two very different words. I agree, I do think there is some degree of wisdom that they share. I mean, compared to other shows, I think there is an abundance. I still think they're fairly smart, though.
edit: That could just be me comparing myself to them! LOL
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
I'd say about 50% of the people in my corner of the world act and talk like these guys;dressed up in camo and marshboots everywhere they go. Hunting, farming, and fishing are very important parts of our southern culture. I realize it might be hard for you guys to see it, but the people on this show are extremely bright. I know dumb rednecks and I know smart rednecks. These guys are definitely intelligent.
Growing out their beards and staying in full camo while in public isn't a sign of ignorance. It's more like a "we don't give a fuck what you think" attitude.
On January 08 2013 06:47 Dienosore wrote: I'd say about 50% of the people in my corner of the world act and talk like these guys;dressed up in camo and marshboots everywhere they go. Hunting, farming, and fishing are very important parts of our southern culture. I realize it might be hard for you guys to see it, but the people on this show are extremely bright. I know dumb rednecks and I know smart rednecks. These guys are definitely intelligent.
Growing out their beards and staying in full camo while in public isn't a sign of ignorance. It's more like a "we don't give a fuck what you think" attitude.
This show is just so witty! I love it! It also provides clean entertainment that my parents don't mind me watching because they are pretty strict about that. Not to mention it also fills my Friday nights due to my lack of social life
Hmmm, I never watched this show myself, but maybe I should start. As a Cajun (even those these guys are from northern Louisiana), it naturally piques my interest, and my brother has a high regard for the show (and we both hate Swamp People, and other similar "Cajun" shows)...so maybe it ain't so bad. The TL thread gives me more a reason.
On January 08 2013 08:50 Whole wrote: Hmmm, I never watched this show myself, but maybe I should start. As a Cajun (even those these guys are from northern Louisiana), it naturally piques my interest, and my brother has a high regard for the show (and we both hate Swamp People, and other similar "Cajun" shows)...so maybe it ain't so bad. The TL thread gives me more a reason.
Recommend you at least watch 2-3 episodes to get yourself a feel for the show. If you want specific episodes that I'd personally recommend, PM me.
On January 08 2013 06:00 danl9rm wrote: Just like when we watch a local parade and there are a bunch of folks playing the bagpipes. They are American as can be, but still, people in the crowd, they're reminded of the Irish. Why? I don't know. But, you're welcome Ireland, you get that one. Lol.
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
Wait, I thought it was only Wilie who had a college degree. Jase I'm fairly certain doesn't, and Phil I believe only graduated from high school.
(I think those three are still pretty mentally apt regardless of their education.)
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
Wait, I thought it was only Wilie who had a college degree. Jase I'm fairly certain doesn't, and Phil I believe only graduated from high school.
(I think those three are still pretty mentally apt regardless of their education.)
Kinda hard to only graduate high school if you were ahead of Terry Bradshaw in college football.
In fact, this is a picture of a younger Phil, pre-beard era.
Bradshaw wrote in his autobiography, It’s Only a Game: “The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football, he’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.”
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
Wait, I thought it was only Wilie who had a college degree. Jase I'm fairly certain doesn't, and Phil I believe only graduated from high school.
(I think those three are still pretty mentally apt regardless of their education.)
Kinda hard to only graduate high school if you were ahead of Terry Bradshaw in college football.
In fact, this is a picture of a younger Phil, pre-beard era.
Bradshaw wrote in his autobiography, It’s Only a Game: “The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football, he’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.”
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
Wait, I thought it was only Wilie who had a college degree. Jase I'm fairly certain doesn't, and Phil I believe only graduated from high school.
(I think those three are still pretty mentally apt regardless of their education.)
Kinda hard to only graduate high school if you were ahead of Terry Bradshaw in college football.
In fact, this is a picture of a younger Phil, pre-beard era.
Bradshaw wrote in his autobiography, It’s Only a Game: “The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football, he’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.”
Bradshaw wrote in his autobiography, It’s Only a Game: “The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football, he’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.”
So can someone explain to me what kind of stuff I'd see in an episode? Is it family stuff, business, or hunting? If it's hunting, do they ever hunt anything interesting or hunt in an interesting way?
On January 09 2013 16:19 Slow Motion wrote: So can someone explain to me what kind of stuff I'd see in an episode? Is it family stuff, business, or hunting? If it's hunting, do they ever hunt anything interesting or hunt in an interesting way?
It's mostly family/business. It's a show more than most reality shows, a lot of it seems staged. Yet once you get to know the characters, it's actually pretty funny. Some of the stuff they say is hilarious. You need to give it a few shows before it grows on you.
On January 09 2013 13:31 zhenherald wrote: making uneducated rednecks feel better about there ignorance. gotta love it.....
I know I'm generalizing just as much as he is but seriously...why is it that every other canadian that posts on this website hates america and anything they have to do with. And i'll stop before this turns into a "Blow some steam" post and derails the thread but seriously...It's just a trend i've noticed
On January 09 2013 16:19 Slow Motion wrote: So can someone explain to me what kind of stuff I'd see in an episode? Is it family stuff, business, or hunting? If it's hunting, do they ever hunt anything interesting or hunt in an interesting way?
I didn't watch it for the longest time because I just had no desire to. It didn't sound like something interesting to me so I avoided it. It's my opinion that I watch too much t.v. as it is so I try not to watch everything that is recommended to me.
However, after being pushed again and again to watch it, it wasn't what I imagined. I don't think it could be properly explained without watching a couple episodes. I can't vouch for anything past the first season as I've only seen the first handful of episodes, but I found them to be hilarious - and pretty interesting.
I just started watching, only on episode 4 but I love it. Will definitely watch out the rest. I wouldn't have found out about it if not for this thread so thank you OP.
On January 10 2013 10:29 bjwithbraces wrote: I just started watching, only on episode 4 but I love it. Will definitely watch out the rest. I wouldn't have found out about it if not for this thread so thank you OP.
It's posts like this that makes me glad I made it in the first place. Thank YOU for giving it a shot.
@mordek: I knew Willie didn't always have his beard (or beer belly ), but Korie had dark hair?! Whoa.
February 27 is the purported launch day. Dang. Only 2 weeks away?? :-o They're cranking these out quite quickly. I pray they don't sacrifice quality for expediency; I'd rather have an awesome, hilarious product than constant "meh" media.
First of all I love this show. Sure we all know it's not true reality but it showcases good values and clean entertainment which I don't see how anyone could be against.
I just don't see how they arn't smart...like the man you quoted said it takes intelligence to hunt/trap and, in this case as well, create an instrument that mimics the sound of an animal to better efficiently hunt.
I find so many people hate on this lifestyle just because it clashes with their's.
More than that, Phil, Jase, and Willie all have their 4 year university degrees (LSU iirc). Looks can be deceiving, but I'd challenge anyone who thinks they are "dumb hicks" to try and replicate their success.
Wait, I thought it was only Wilie who had a college degree. Jase I'm fairly certain doesn't, and Phil I believe only graduated from high school.
(I think those three are still pretty mentally apt regardless of their education.)
Kinda hard to only graduate high school if you were ahead of Terry Bradshaw in college football.
In fact, this is a picture of a younger Phil, pre-beard era.
Bradshaw wrote in his autobiography, It’s Only a Game: “The quarterback playing ahead of me, Phil Robertson, loved hunting more than he loved football, he’d come to practice directly from the woods, squirrel tails hanging out of his pockets, duck feathers on his clothes. Clearly he was a fine shot, so no one complained too much.”
Season 3 premieres tonight. NEXT EPISODES: "Duck Sesaon Eve" and "Can't Hardly Weight."
Seeing some of the previews and ads for it, I'm starting to think they're forcing the series a little at this point. Part of what makes Duck Dynasty so enjoyable (for me, anyway) is how naturally the Robertsons play their parts. Here's hoping A&E didn't sacrifice quality for quantity.... :-\
On March 08 2013 09:39 autoexec wrote: A&E. Just actually watched them on their website. Free and I got no commercials, but maybe that is just cause of adblock.
Saw the first two episodes of Season 3 last night here; their player could be improved, but it's satisfactory.. Pretty sure they're only up for a limited time (a la the style of Hulu?), so I'd recommend you watch them now if you want to see them for free.
NEXT EPISODES: "Duck Be a Lady" and "Tickets To The Fun Show."
On March 18 2013 21:57 mordek wrote: Every time Si shoots his pistol in the woods it cracks me up.
"They called me crazy eyes because my eyes are crazy good" O.O
Si is best beard. (need to watch the newest two episodes...)
Season 2 came in the mail last Tuesday, but it had "Volume 1" on it. Maybe A&E is trying to milk as much as it can out of the whole season by offering two separate volumes early on? But I don't remember any other episodes in Season 2 besides what's on the discs.
Other news: Season 4 is a strong potentiality. However, the Robertsons are demanding higher pay per episode than they have received in the past. Source.
If you ask me, they could probably get away with it and Gurney Productions would still make a profit, lol. But it will likely result in something smaller than what they're bargaining for. Regardless, I pray for more wholesome, high-quality entertainment.
Hmm didn't get a chance to watch much of season 3 due to lots of schoolwork. Guess I will have to catch up sometime. Season 4 will probably be the same old same old even with the new guy
On August 15 2013 09:43 VayneAuthority wrote: 2nd worst show on tv to ever get popular, right behind futurama
This show is great even though its scripted.
Also, you mean to say this show and futurama(how dare u) is worse then fucking JERSEY SHORE?
Nothing is worse then jersey shore
never seen jersey shore so I can't comment. I guess I should revise my statement to "comedies?" thats all I really watch
nothing annoys me more then shows that try really hard to be funny and aren't and futurama and duck dynasty epitomize that.
Duck Dynasty is more "reality TV" (it's in the genre, accurate to reality or not) than "comedy," but it's got some of both. I'm sorry you don't find it hilarious. But that's just differences in comedic appeal, I suppose....
NEW YORK — A&E says nearly 12 million birds of a feather caught Wednesday’s season premiere of its hit unscripted series “Duck Dynasty.”
The network said the episode took its place as the No. 1 non-fiction series telecast in cable history in total viewers as well as all key demographic groups.
The fourth-season premiere grew by more than one-third in total viewers over last season’s debut.
Set in Louisiana bayou country, “Duck Dynasty” follows a brood of brothers who manufacture duck calls and love to go bird hunting.
New episodes air every Wednesday at 10 p.m. Eastern time.
This is proof guys that even though we may be the minority on TL... TL is the minority everywhere else!!
NEW YORK — A&E says nearly 12 million birds of a feather caught Wednesday’s season premiere of its hit unscripted series “Duck Dynasty.”
The network said the episode took its place as the No. 1 non-fiction series telecast in cable history in total viewers as well as all key demographic groups.
The fourth-season premiere grew by more than one-third in total viewers over last season’s debut.
Set in Louisiana bayou country, “Duck Dynasty” follows a brood of brothers who manufacture duck calls and love to go bird hunting.
New episodes air every Wednesday at 10 p.m. Eastern time.
This is proof guys that even though we may be the minority on TL... TL is the minority everywhere else!!
Haters just gonna have to hate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
...But wait, isn't having more haters a "good" thing for the show. O_o
Did yall hear about Jase getting kicked out of his own Hotel? Apparently, he was mistaken for a homeless person. When asked about the incident, Jase had this to say: "Clearly, I was the victim of facial profiling."
Lol with their ratings and view numbers I bet a&e is about to get so much backlash they will have to change their stance. And seriously he can't say his opinion without losing his spot on a show? That's just way too extreme. When you are on a tv show you don't suddenly lose your ability to voice your opinion and have to keep it to yourself, or we'd hear a lot less from celebrities.
Celebrities can say their opinions all they want as long as they don't negatively effect anyone else. When you accept a paycheck as apart of a show you arn't representing just yourself anymore but an entire crew of writers, producers, executives and others that collect a paycheck from the property as well. These people need the money advertiseing provides more then the celebrity themselves and its pretty selfish for them to act like they don't have people who depend on them not being unsellable to advertisers.
I read in a comment somewhere that Phil did this interview as an A&E employee, which would close this case very decisively, but I've not found proof of that. It seems to me that this was independent of A&E entirely; of course they can still fire him for whatever reason, this included, but the decision then loses a lot of credibility, in my view.
A&E is okay with this extremely popular Bible-believing redneck until he actually gets interviewed on it? What did they think he'd answer when asked about his views on homosexuality? What did they think he'd say when they asked him what was sinful? Sad, sad day.
Makes me wonder if he'd be fired had he come out of the closet and said he's gay. Maybe that's a little less inflammatory than speaking your mind on sexual morality. Or let GLAAD tell us what "true Christians believe."
Can he just re-issue the neglected comments in all these news stories ... namely, that he treats everyone with respect and get the show back? For the 11.8 mil viewers? Leave the religion debate in the shade.
"I myself am a product of the '60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior," the TV star said in a statement released by A&E (which itself has so far declined to address the burgeoning contoversy). "My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other."
On December 21 2013 08:50 Sermokala wrote: The Robertson family has responded by saying "we don't know how the show could continue without phil and they're talking about the future of the show.
Would be really sad if the one moraly decent reality show gets canceled like this.
Agreed~ its beyond reason how they can deem Phil as unacceptable for their network with all the smut and inappropriateness out there. But hey, sin don't make sense, ya know?
On December 21 2013 08:50 Sermokala wrote: The Robertson family has responded by saying "we don't know how the show could continue without phil and they're talking about the future of the show.
Would be really sad if the one moraly decent reality show gets canceled like this.
Agreed~ its beyond reason how they can deem Phil as unacceptable for their network with all the smut and inappropriateness out there. But hey, sin don't make sense, ya know?
Hippocracy ain't just for the Jesus folk. Sad to see it so abundantly displayed without any mainstream consequence, but whatever. Media, as always, looks out for its own.
The root of this is that he is an employee of the network and said a controversial opinion which is rapidly becoming synonymous with racism. It is following much the same path, with younger generations feeling one way and older generations generally feeling another combined with the typical north/south split. 51% of Americans now support same sex marriage and it continues to trend upward.
The network did what it was forced to do based on all of this and suspended him, which they are totally entitled to do. Plenty of celebs have been burned by expressing controversial opinions so they are following a fairly set precedent. I think back to the guy on greys anatomy getting kicked off for things he said about a gay actor on the show.
That said, he was fairly respectful in how he said it and probably won't be suspended long. Just long enough for the headlines to start to dwindle and get some free publicity. Being respectful in your opinions isn't always enough when you are a public figure like he is.
"I myself am a product of the '60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior," the TV star said in a statement released by A&E (which itself has so far declined to address the burgeoning contoversy). "My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other."
Isn't it obvious that the man is deserving of respect? This isn't some vindictive moralizer (a trait that sometimes appears in his new critics), this is a caring man. Love is central to his life and he experienced a life change from self-centeredness. I hope A&E can remove their heads from their posteriors in time to save a beloved show from the politically correct brigade. It is their highest rated show.
Duck Dynasty had hit nearly 12 million views back in August. Estimates I've been reading say current views are at about 9 million, and dropping significantly due to a boycott on the show until Phil returns.
Well the season coming this spring is going to have phil in it. he wasn't suspended from the show he was suspended from filming. Which if anything is going to racket up the views for the spring season. They got their first big start from this jimmy kimmel thing where a guy canceled on the show beacuse of duck dynasty.
On December 21 2013 16:22 Sermokala wrote: Well the season coming this spring is going to have phil in it. he wasn't suspended from the show he was suspended from filming. Which if anything is going to racket up the views for the spring season. They got their first big start from this jimmy kimmel thing where a guy canceled on the show beacuse of duck dynasty.
Well they can do a similar 'Calling Device' for homosexuals, I guess, but that wouldn't work very well with everyone I think. I just heard about these guys like 2 days ago and it all seemed really funny. I can imagine having really staunch Christians on a TV show is the kiss of death for some shows. There was this thing with mel gibson where he had to like, defend his dad because his dad was getting heat for saying the holocaust didnt happen. :S
On December 21 2013 16:22 Sermokala wrote: Well the season coming this spring is going to have phil in it. he wasn't suspended from the show he was suspended from filming. Which if anything is going to racket up the views for the spring season. They got their first big start from this jimmy kimmel thing where a guy canceled on the show beacuse of duck dynasty.
Well they can do a similar 'Calling Device' for homosexuals, I guess, but that wouldn't work very well with everyone I think. I just heard about these guys like 2 days ago and it all seemed really funny. I can imagine having really staunch Christians on a TV show is the kiss of death for some shows. There was this thing with mel gibson where he had to like, defend his dad because his dad was getting heat for saying the holocaust didnt happen. :S
It's been surprisingly popular, given their worldviews. Like I mentioned earlier, the show is arguably the most watched on TV; millions of dedicated fans tune in every week, and it appears to be for precisely that reason: their right-wing-ish, family-friendly, not-unwholesome entertainment.
The Broccoli Trap was hilarious, by the way. Si's my favorite.
It doesn't hurt that Phil Robertson made a 4 time super bowl champ sit on the bench in college. thats a ton of cred with the southern audiences that you can't get cheap.
To be honest if AE doesn't cave and reinstate phil they'll probably just jump ship and go to another network. when you have the founder of TMZ in your corner and can pull NFL numbers in NFL markets theres going to be a lot of places for them to call home.
Interesting article about the, er, gentleman, featured in this show:
Robertson’s interview reads as a commentary almost without malice, imbued with a matter-of-fact, this-is-just-the-way-I-see-it kind of Southern folksiness. To me, that is part of the problem. You don’t have to operate with a malicious spirit to do tremendous harm. Insensitivity and ignorance are sufficient. In fact, intolerance that is disarming is the most dangerous kind. It can masquerade as morality.
A&E, which airs “Duck Dynasty,” moved quickly to suspend Robertson, as his comments engaged the political culture wars, with liberals condemning him and conservatives — including Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, a possible presidential candidate — rushing to his defense.
Let me first say that Robertson has a constitutionally protected right to voice his opinion and A&E has a corporate right to decide if his views are consistent with its corporate ethos. No one has a constitutional right to a reality show. I have no opinion on the suspension. That’s A&E’s call.
In fact, I don’t want to focus on the employment repercussions of what Robertson said, but on the content of it. In particular, I want to focus on a passage on race from the interview, in which Robertson says:
“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field. ...They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’ — not a word! ...Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
While this is possible, it is highly improbable. Robertson is 67 years old, born into the Jim Crow South. Only a man blind and naïve to the suffering of others could have existed there and not recognized that there was a rampant culture of violence against blacks, with incidents and signs large and small, at every turn, on full display. Whether he personally saw interpersonal mistreatment of them is irrelevant.
Louisiana helped to establish the architecture for Jim Crow. First, there were the Black Codes that sought to control interactions between blacks and whites and constrain black freedom. The Jim Crow Encyclopedia even points out that in one Louisiana town, Opelousas, “freedmen needed the permission of their employers to enter town.”
Then, in 1890, the State Legislature passed the Separate Car Act, which stipulated that all railway companies in the state “shall provide equal but separate accommodations for the white, and colored races” in their coaches. The landmark Plessy v. Ferguson case was a Louisiana case challenging that law. The United States Supreme Court upheld the law, a ruling that provided the underpinning for state-sponsored racial segregation, and Jim Crow laws spread.
Robertson’s comments conjure the insidious mythology of historical Southern fiction, that of contented slave and benevolent master, of the oppressed and the oppressors gleefully abiding the oppression, happily accepting their wildly variant social stations. This mythology posits that there were two waves of ruination for Southern culture, the Civil War and the civil rights movement, that made blacks get upset and things go downhill.
Robertson’s comments also display a staggering ignorance about the place and meaning of song in African-American suffering. As for the singing of the blues in particular, the jazz musician Amina Claudine Myers points out in an essay that the blues was heard in the late 1800s and “came from the second generation of slaves, Black work songs, shouts and field hollers, which originated from African call-and-response singing.” Work songs, the blues and spirituals were not easily separated.
Furthermore, Robertson doesn’t seem to acknowledge the possibility that black workers he encountered possessed the most minimal social sophistication and survival skills necessary to not confess dissatisfaction to a white person on a cotton farm (no matter how “trashy” that white person might think himself).
It’s impossible to know if Robertson recognizes the historical resonance and logical improbability of his comments. But that’s not an excuse.
What's most bothersome about this debate is the manner in which the conservative Christian population has jumped to Robertson's defense. They have not only turned him into a martyr, they've also managed to spin things in a way that they portray themselves as some kind of oppressed minority. Never mind that organized Christianity is probably the largest and most powerful force in this country. It is certainly one of the richest. Yet if you listen to Robertson's defenders, you get the idea that Christians are being bullied by the NAACP, GLAAD, A&E, the government, the "liberals," the media, etc. etc. It has become the three-card monte of the right wing. Somebody blurts out something horribly offensive to people who are genuinely oppressed. The people who are offended voice their opposition. The people doing the offending -- and the oppressing -- get up in arms over it and turn themselves into the victims. And it works. A large slice of America actually buys into this. It's sickening and more than a little depressing.
When I consider the number of people praised publicly for opening up positively on political topics of homosexuality, and then those vilified that share the opposite opinion, it seems plain to me where the media and culture wish to portray them each.
At least you could sit down and have a decent, calm, mild-mannered conversation with Phil on issues. He seems open to debate, not closed (though few could change is mind, of course). We expect a negative response towards pundits and the more ardent celebrities; it's difficult to substantiate vile accusations against a person of Phil's respect.
You don't know what you're missing, Marigold. We'd recommend you watch an episode or two.
I've never seen this show. In fact, I had never heard of it before the Phil Robertson controversy. however, yesterday, I bought season one of it on dvd for my stepmother for christmas. It just seemed like it would be up her alley. She likes reality shows, and she's kind of a country bumpkin, so it seemed appropriate...
I still think the most incredible thing about this story is that the anti-gay thing was cited as the reason for suspension, when the anti-black thing was so much worse.
But, on the gay thing, he didn't just say it was sinful. That's a common opinion among conservative Christians, though main-line Christians may disagree. What he said was that, to define sin, you start with homosexuality and "go out from there." His other examples were all sexual offences too. The definition of sin in any kind of Christianity, conservative, liberal, you name it, is a violation of the twin laws of love (e.g. Matt. 22.36-40). Violating the golden rule (Matt. 7.12) would also be an acceptable answer, and it amounts to the same thing.
Seriously though, the race comments were scary shit.
During Sunday’s speech, he defended himself, saying he was simply quoting from the Bible and even went so far as to say Jesus could save gay people.
‘I love all men and women. I am a lover of humanity, not a hater,’ he added.
The 67-year-old has been slammed by gay rights groups since his interview in January’s issue of GQ magazine was made public last week.
He was quoted as saying: 'It seems like, to me, a vagina - as a man - would be more desirable than a man’s anus.
'That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.'
But despite the criticism Robertson has faced, his family and local community have come to his defense and stood firmly behind him. [...]
He said: ‘I have been immoral, drunk, high. I ran with the wicked people for 28 years and I have run with the Jesus people since and the contrast is astounding.
‘I tell people, "You are a sinner, we all are. Do you want to hear my story before I give you the bottom line on your story?"
On December 23 2013 12:51 Yoav wrote: I still think the most incredible thing about this story is that the anti-gay thing was cited as the reason for suspension, when the anti-black thing was so much worse.
But, on the gay thing, he didn't just say it was sinful. That's a common opinion among conservative Christians, though main-line Christians may disagree. What he said was that, to define sin, you start with homosexuality and "go out from there." His other examples were all sexual offences too. The definition of sin in any kind of Christianity, conservative, liberal, you name it, is a violation of the twin laws of love (e.g. Matt. 22.36-40). Violating the golden rule (Matt. 7.12) would also be an acceptable answer, and it amounts to the same thing.
Seriously though, the race comments were scary shit.
Grammatically, linguistically, and theologically he isn't saying that at all. You have to want him to mean that for him to mean that and ignore everything else he says in the article. He is unabashedly saying that homosexuality is sin, which by itself is enough to get most people up in arms.
I don't quite understand the secondary uproar over his 'race comments.' Literally recounting his memories growing up in the poor south = racism? It's short sighted and doesn't reflect the big picture of racism in our country, but the assertion that these comments are "beyond the pale" is absurd. "I knew people who were happy" is not anywhere near "black people were all happy during jim crow." You have to want to trash him to spin it that way. idk
On December 23 2013 12:51 Yoav wrote: I still think the most incredible thing about this story is that the anti-gay thing was cited as the reason for suspension, when the anti-black thing was so much worse.
But, on the gay thing, he didn't just say it was sinful. That's a common opinion among conservative Christians, though main-line Christians may disagree. What he said was that, to define sin, you start with homosexuality and "go out from there." His other examples were all sexual offences too. The definition of sin in any kind of Christianity, conservative, liberal, you name it, is a violation of the twin laws of love (e.g. Matt. 22.36-40). Violating the golden rule (Matt. 7.12) would also be an acceptable answer, and it amounts to the same thing.
Seriously though, the race comments were scary shit.
Grammatically, linguistically, and theologically he isn't saying that at all. You have to want him to mean that for him to mean that and ignore everything else he says in the article. He is unabashedly saying that acting on homosexual attraction is sin, which by itself is enough to get most people up in arms.
Pardon the linguistic nitpicking, but perhaps the way I changed what you said may make more sense to people and/or be more accurate. I'd rather not have a word war in this thread if it can be helped.
Anyone defending his views on homosexuallity on the basis that "he is just saying that it is sinful, he doesn't hate them" is grossly incorrect
Do I like the guy? yea, he appeals to the country side of me. Should he be on mainstream tv? Not with views like that....
Also saying that jesus would have prevented pearl harbour, holocaust, ect. is founded on nothing factual. There where many christians and roman catholic in germany when hitler was in power (and alot joined the socialist party as well, except for the white roses)
man i feel sorry for gays they are people just like anyone else. They get soooooo much hate from religious folk, no wonder lgbt suicide rate and violence rate is so high.
On December 25 2013 23:08 EleanorRIgby wrote: charlie sheen pwned him haha
A largely non-capitalized and incoherent rant aimed at the simple anecdotes of a man wizened with age is hardly "pwnage," if you ask me.... I just looked at the original post in all its infamy here; his line structure looks like it's stuck between provocative poet and delirious buffoon.
It only took five decades, but beleaguered "Duck Dynasty" patriarch Phil Robertson exhibited some of the traditional family values that he preaches.
Really? As if he wasn't expressing those qualities before now? He had to go out and buy jewelry for Miss Kay in order to "truly" show that he appreciates her? He's the opposite of that vain, materialistic type of individual. He wears his heart on his sleeve for Miss Kay in everything he does. What a thoughtless, ignorant remark by the Daily News....
I do hope people understand that I'm trying to emulate the ridiculous firestorm started over Phil's genuine, good-natured, if controversial, comments. I'm immensely impressed that their matrimony has lasted 50 years. God bless 'em.
But Duck Dynasty is the embodiment of all that is bad with religion! Clearly the qualities he possesses (sincerity, kindness, bluntness) mean he is a horrible person.
Lol. This is way overblown, and I bet he is a good guy.
"Duck Dynasty" family patriarch Phil Robertson will be back on the popular A&E reality show when new episodes begin filming in 2014, the network said in a statement on Friday. A&E had previously suspended Robertson after he was quoted in GQ magazine discussing homosexuality.
"A+E Networks' core values are centered around creativity, inclusion and mutual respect," the statement read. "We believe it is a privilege for our brands to be invited into people's home and we operate with a strong sense of integrity and deep commitment to these principles."
The statement went on to "reiterate that (Robertson's personal beliefs) are not views (the network) holds," but to note that " 'Duck Dynasty' is not a show about one man's views." It noted that the Robertson family often is seen on the show coming together "to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness."
"So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming 'Duck Dynasty' later this spring with the entire Robertson family," the network said. "We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company, and the values found in 'Duck Dynasty.'"
In the GQ interview, Robertson commented on homosexuality and racism. GLAAD issued a statement criticizing his remarks, while others, including former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, defended Robertson.
The announced suspension had no effect, since the show was already on hiatus so the Robertson family could participate in duck-hunting season, and most of the upcoming season had already been filmed. The rest of the Robertson family had announced they could not imagine filming the show without their patriarch.
So basically A&E let him back on, but they're going to do a bunch of PR stuff to distance them from his worldview as much as possible. Despite everyone knowing full well that the network doesn't necessarily reflect the same views as what one man on one program happened to say on one, private interview outside of the network.
On December 23 2013 14:38 Bigtony wrote: I don't quite understand the secondary uproar over his 'race comments.' Literally recounting his memories growing up in the poor south = racism? It's short sighted and doesn't reflect the big picture of racism in our country, but the assertion that these comments are "beyond the pale" is absurd. "I knew people who were happy" is not anywhere near "black people were all happy during jim crow." You have to want to trash him to spin it that way. idk
This is pretty much exactly how I felt about it when I heard - I looked up the quotes and from what I read it seemed like he honestly just didn't really have a very good view of the world at the time, which is pretty goddamn excusable in my opinion.
Especially the quote 'We were with the blacks, because we were white trash' just SCREAMS at me that the only reason he thought this was the way things were is because he was pretty poor himself, and maybe even got his share of the harsh side of a fair number of rich white men's tongues.
I mean seriously - he never ONCE said anything negative about black people, even. All he said AT ALL was basically 'hey guys, the way I saw it it wasn't so bad as all that' which could TOTALLY BE TRUE. Just because it seems obvious in retrospect, doesn't mean everyone in the south at the time was aware of all the injustice being committed - and having a field day with him, calling him a racist, just doesn't really sit right with me.
Also, his homophobic comments basically amounted to 'well, I prefer pussy, but hey, who knows why people do what they do?' which is pretty fucking close to how I feel about it tbh. I don't hate gay people by any means - but I don't think it's unreasonable to state a preference for the fairer sex, and I don't think anyone should be persecuted for it.
Good for the network for not going through with taking him off air.
We killing children around the world with drones every day .... LETS TALK ABOUT A FAMILY OF INBRED REDNECKS WITH ABOUT 70 POINTS OF IQ COMBINED, CAUSE IT'S A LOT MORE IMPORTANT!
Seriously, this show is garbage and this whole controversy around it is just bullshit to keep the ignorant American masses busy masturbating about jesus vs gays.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Did he? I guess I've just been misinformed then... from what I thought was the original GQ interview where this all started, the only quote is:
“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”
Can you find me a better quote where he says the things you say he said? Not that I don't believe you - I just was under the impression that that GQ interview was the 'original' per se.
e: OKAY NEVERMIND I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE MORE PAGES TO THE ARTICLE. But, that being said, the full gist of it is still a little overblown in my opinion. The line you're talking about is in DIRECT response to the question "What do you consider sinful?", and I know a LOT of upstanding Christians who would argue the same. He started with homosexuality I think because they had already been talking about it - but he goes on to list a bunch of other things (being unfaithful to your wife, terrorism, etc) as also being sinful, and none of these things are that outrageous of views. Then, he follows it up with:
We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?
which, in my opinion, is actually a SHITLOAD more reasonable than plenty of people's worldview, religious or not.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America.
I would say that every American who respects education and somewhat thought-provoking discussion thinks this show is a joke. I tend to think 90% of TV is a joke though, and only watch stuff on Netflix. A&E and TLC (and a lot of the non-history shows on the History Channel) lost all respect from most Americans. Their shows are just so bad and they continue to produce some of the worst readily available content on American TV.
They literally suspended him long enough to let the headlines run their course and protect their business. He said some stuff I don't agree with, especially the jim crow "pre-entitlement" comments. But he stated his view in a respectful way, which I can appreciate after all the drunken celebrity rants I've heard. I will still watch the show every once in a while, same as before.
It's not like anyone was surprised these were his feelings anyways, I mean if you are you haven't watched the show...
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America.
I would say that every American who respects education and somewhat thought-provoking discussion thinks this show is a joke. I tend to think 90% of TV is a joke though, and only watch stuff on Netflix. A&E and TLC (and a lot of the non-history shows on the History Channel) lost all respect from most Americans. Their shows are just so bad and they continue to produce some of the worst readily available content on American TV.
You wouldn't say the ethics and messages that the show puts forth aren't worthy of serious discussion? They are simple (basic even), yes, but they don't spark a thoughtful conversation between you and your fellow watchers?
Finished Season 4. Gotta say, the Robertsons've still got their funny goin' on!
I was initially skeptical about Alan's introduction to the series, but he was only present in one episode, and called on the phone in a second. He might as well have just been a special guest in the first place.
Series is still not as "try-hard" as I feared it would become. Will follow into Season 5.
Ratings are still dropping, unfortunately. What do y'all think is the cause? Life of the show? Phil's GQ comments? Episodes losing their comedic flair?
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+ Show Spoiler + Si is a man of mystery, constantly surprising even the eldest of the Robertsons with his quirks and odd talents. Like, he can sew, he can pontificate, heck he can even... uh... yeah. Si is Phil’s brother, and uncle to Willie, Jase, and Jep.![[image loading]](http://www.aetv.com/duck-dynasty/images/qa/pics/miss_kay_237x284.jpg)
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Who all's watching?
