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On December 25 2013 23:08 EleanorRIgby wrote: charlie sheen pwned him haha
A largely non-capitalized and incoherent rant aimed at the simple anecdotes of a man wizened with age is hardly "pwnage," if you ask me.... I just looked at the original post in all its infamy here; his line structure looks like it's stuck between provocative poet and delirious buffoon.
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Wow. I was hoping this could've been a more pleasant post, but the first sentence of this article on Phil giving Kay a ring for their 50th anniversary is downright hurtful and untrue. :-\
It only took five decades, but beleaguered "Duck Dynasty" patriarch Phil Robertson exhibited some of the traditional family values that he preaches.
Really? As if he wasn't expressing those qualities before now? He had to go out and buy jewelry for Miss Kay in order to "truly" show that he appreciates her? He's the opposite of that vain, materialistic type of individual. He wears his heart on his sleeve for Miss Kay in everything he does. What a thoughtless, ignorant remark by the Daily News....
+ Show Spoiler +I do hope people understand that I'm trying to emulate the ridiculous firestorm started over Phil's genuine, good-natured, if controversial, comments. I'm immensely impressed that their matrimony has lasted 50 years. God bless 'em.
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But Duck Dynasty is the embodiment of all that is bad with religion! Clearly the qualities he possesses (sincerity, kindness, bluntness) mean he is a horrible person.
Lol. This is way overblown, and I bet he is a good guy.
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Looks like Phil is back. I have to wonder if this whole thing was a publicity stunt from the start.
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On December 28 2013 09:11 iamho wrote: Looks like Phil is back. I have to wonder if this whole thing was a publicity stunt from the start.
If it's season 5, he's supposed to be in that. They should've already done the shows before all of this.
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On December 28 2013 10:42 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 09:11 iamho wrote: Looks like Phil is back. I have to wonder if this whole thing was a publicity stunt from the start. If it's season 5, he's supposed to be in that. They should've already done the shows before all of this. No hes talking full on filming resuming this spring for season 6.
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I'll be darned. You're right.
"Duck Dynasty" family patriarch Phil Robertson will be back on the popular A&E reality show when new episodes begin filming in 2014, the network said in a statement on Friday. A&E had previously suspended Robertson after he was quoted in GQ magazine discussing homosexuality.
"A+E Networks' core values are centered around creativity, inclusion and mutual respect," the statement read. "We believe it is a privilege for our brands to be invited into people's home and we operate with a strong sense of integrity and deep commitment to these principles."
The statement went on to "reiterate that (Robertson's personal beliefs) are not views (the network) holds," but to note that " 'Duck Dynasty' is not a show about one man's views." It noted that the Robertson family often is seen on the show coming together "to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness."
"So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming 'Duck Dynasty' later this spring with the entire Robertson family," the network said. "We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company, and the values found in 'Duck Dynasty.'"
In the GQ interview, Robertson commented on homosexuality and racism. GLAAD issued a statement criticizing his remarks, while others, including former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, defended Robertson.
The announced suspension had no effect, since the show was already on hiatus so the Robertson family could participate in duck-hunting season, and most of the upcoming season had already been filmed. The rest of the Robertson family had announced they could not imagine filming the show without their patriarch.
"Duck Dynasty" returns to A&E on Jan. 15.
Source.
So basically A&E let him back on, but they're going to do a bunch of PR stuff to distance them from his worldview as much as possible. Despite everyone knowing full well that the network doesn't necessarily reflect the same views as what one man on one program happened to say on one, private interview outside of the network.
Lol.
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On December 23 2013 14:38 Bigtony wrote: I don't quite understand the secondary uproar over his 'race comments.' Literally recounting his memories growing up in the poor south = racism? It's short sighted and doesn't reflect the big picture of racism in our country, but the assertion that these comments are "beyond the pale" is absurd. "I knew people who were happy" is not anywhere near "black people were all happy during jim crow." You have to want to trash him to spin it that way. idk This is pretty much exactly how I felt about it when I heard - I looked up the quotes and from what I read it seemed like he honestly just didn't really have a very good view of the world at the time, which is pretty goddamn excusable in my opinion.
Especially the quote 'We were with the blacks, because we were white trash' just SCREAMS at me that the only reason he thought this was the way things were is because he was pretty poor himself, and maybe even got his share of the harsh side of a fair number of rich white men's tongues.
I mean seriously - he never ONCE said anything negative about black people, even. All he said AT ALL was basically 'hey guys, the way I saw it it wasn't so bad as all that' which could TOTALLY BE TRUE. Just because it seems obvious in retrospect, doesn't mean everyone in the south at the time was aware of all the injustice being committed - and having a field day with him, calling him a racist, just doesn't really sit right with me.
Also, his homophobic comments basically amounted to 'well, I prefer pussy, but hey, who knows why people do what they do?' which is pretty fucking close to how I feel about it tbh. I don't hate gay people by any means - but I don't think it's unreasonable to state a preference for the fairer sex, and I don't think anyone should be persecuted for it.
Good for the network for not going through with taking him off air.
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We killing children around the world with drones every day .... LETS TALK ABOUT A FAMILY OF INBRED REDNECKS WITH ABOUT 70 POINTS OF IQ COMBINED, CAUSE IT'S A LOT MORE IMPORTANT!
Seriously, this show is garbage and this whole controversy around it is just bullshit to keep the ignorant American masses busy masturbating about jesus vs gays.
This show = Faith in humanity -10
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Opened thread... Saw that the thread was older than 2 weeks... Was confused
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Cyx.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America.
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On December 28 2013 16:45 thezanursic wrote: Cyx.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Did he? I guess I've just been misinformed then... from what I thought was the original GQ interview where this all started, the only quote is:
“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”
Can you find me a better quote where he says the things you say he said? Not that I don't believe you - I just was under the impression that that GQ interview was the 'original' per se.
e: OKAY NEVERMIND I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE MORE PAGES TO THE ARTICLE. But, that being said, the full gist of it is still a little overblown in my opinion. The line you're talking about is in DIRECT response to the question "What do you consider sinful?", and I know a LOT of upstanding Christians who would argue the same. He started with homosexuality I think because they had already been talking about it - but he goes on to list a bunch of other things (being unfaithful to your wife, terrorism, etc) as also being sinful, and none of these things are that outrageous of views. Then, he follows it up with:
We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?
which, in my opinion, is actually a SHITLOAD more reasonable than plenty of people's worldview, religious or not.
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On December 28 2013 16:43 thezanursic wrote: Opened thread... Saw that the thread was older than 2 weeks... Was confused
You didn't think anyone on TL was actually a fan of this show, watching it regularly?
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On December 28 2013 16:45 thezanursic wrote: Cyx.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America. I would say that every American who respects education and somewhat thought-provoking discussion thinks this show is a joke. I tend to think 90% of TV is a joke though, and only watch stuff on Netflix. A&E and TLC (and a lot of the non-history shows on the History Channel) lost all respect from most Americans. Their shows are just so bad and they continue to produce some of the worst readily available content on American TV.
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On December 28 2013 22:53 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 16:43 thezanursic wrote: Opened thread... Saw that the thread was older than 2 weeks... Was confused You didn't think anyone on TL was actually a fan of this show, watching it regularly? I watch it regularly. The production values on it are actualy really good.
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They literally suspended him long enough to let the headlines run their course and protect their business. He said some stuff I don't agree with, especially the jim crow "pre-entitlement" comments. But he stated his view in a respectful way, which I can appreciate after all the drunken celebrity rants I've heard. I will still watch the show every once in a while, same as before.
It's not like anyone was surprised these were his feelings anyways, I mean if you are you haven't watched the show...
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On December 28 2013 23:55 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 16:45 thezanursic wrote: Cyx.
And he also said that it blurs right from wrong and acts as a gateway to beastiality, incest and [insert something bad here]
Totally unrelated, but am I the only one as a non-American who expected Duck dynasty to be some kind of satire based looney toones spoof... I expected to much from America. I would say that every American who respects education and somewhat thought-provoking discussion thinks this show is a joke. I tend to think 90% of TV is a joke though, and only watch stuff on Netflix. A&E and TLC (and a lot of the non-history shows on the History Channel) lost all respect from most Americans. Their shows are just so bad and they continue to produce some of the worst readily available content on American TV.
You wouldn't say the ethics and messages that the show puts forth aren't worthy of serious discussion? They are simple (basic even), yes, but they don't spark a thoughtful conversation between you and your fellow watchers?
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Season 4 came in the mail today! There goes my evening, lol.
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Finished Season 4. Gotta say, the Robertsons've still got their funny goin' on!
I was initially skeptical about Alan's introduction to the series, but he was only present in one episode, and called on the phone in a second. He might as well have just been a special guest in the first place.
Series is still not as "try-hard" as I feared it would become. Will follow into Season 5.
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