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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:08 Z-BosoN wrote: But you came dangerously dangerously close to that. Djo could actually have pulled it off. Yes, we did come rather close to it-- with only 2 lynches left and two players to lynch into, I'm SURE Djo had a chance. What suggestions do you have for my play going forwards to avoid this in the future? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Yet it doesn't feel that way for me. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:06 Blazinghand wrote: Z-B, I worked quite hard after N1 to do my best to pin down the last scum. My case on you was mistaken, but it was extensively-researched and almost certainly not lazy. In retrospect, I should have realized you were town-- but hindsight is, as they say, 20/20. I'll do better next time. I like to take a critical view of my own play, and I recommend you join me in doing so so we can both do better next time. I've no problem with that dude. To me it seemed like you had a lazy mindset and your later comments on how "town was already doing great" kinda indicate that you weren't giving your 100%. Also, I'm extremely open about my play, I love receiving advice. If you have any suggestions, I'll gladly take them. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:13 Blazinghand wrote: But.. town WAS already doing great. Like, that's a fact. You're welcome to dispute that fact, but it was true. In any case, Aside from me not buying your defense, what other lazy things did I do that I should avoid in the future? we're talking post 1st cycle, right? ^_^ | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:13 marvellosity wrote: we're talking post 1st cycle, right? ^_^ Yeah read my comments on the last page or two. My gf's grandmother died etc | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I guess maybe, when you are in a position where you are basically confirmed town, take advantage of it. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:09 Blazinghand wrote: Yes, we did come rather close to it-- with only 2 lynches left and two players to lynch into, I'm SURE Djo had a chance. What suggestions do you have for my play going forwards to avoid this in the future? Well, possibly reading more into the dead people. I found Clarity's lynch to be extreeeemely stupid as well. I also was screaming Djodref scum when I died, surely I had a reason? Aside from that I can't really say much, you had issues IRL and weren't playing like I've seen you play. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:14 Clarity_nl wrote: Blazing I think all the things I would consider "bad" from your play originated from your JK claim but you already said why you did that, so there's not much to say there. I guess maybe, when you are in a position where you are basically confirmed town, take advantage of it. I tried my best to take advantage of my confirmed town status, doing things providing reads, pushing cases, voting aggressively, and setting up the town with strong town and scum reads before I get shot. I was wrong a lot, but I'm not sure if "be less wrong" is good advice. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:14 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah read my comments on the last page or two. My gf's grandmother died etc ah. sorry to hear it. I'm most curious how you went from protecting DP over me night 1 to not being sure he was town later. Like, nothing significant had changed. DP pretty much had to be town because of the first cycle. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:15 Z-BosoN wrote: Well, possibly reading more into the dead people. I found Clarity's lynch to be extreeeemely stupid as well. I also was screaming Djodref scum when I died, surely I had a reason? Aside from that I can't really say much, you had issues IRL and weren't playing like I've seen you play. And I had Djodref on my scum list, but you DO NOT lynch a guy the day he replaces in. This is a personal policy I follow-- though we can discuss the wisdom of it, I really don't like lynching replacements the first day. Also my vote was on SnB when clarity was lynched, though I suspect I personally am responsible for clarity's death since town was sheeping me. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote: ah. sorry to hear it. I'm most curious how you went from protecting DP over me night 1 to not being sure he was town later. Like, nothing significant had changed. DP pretty much had to be town because of the first cycle. DP wasn't reading the thread-- I had him as my least townie town read for that. Given that Hopeless was confirmed town and Kickstart and Iamp were both screamingly town, I think it's reasonable that DP was my least sure town read when I died. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: And I had Djodref on my scum list, but you DO NOT lynch a guy the day he replaces in. This is a personal policy I follow-- though we can discuss the wisdom of it, I really don't like lynching replacements the first day. Also my vote was on SnB when clarity was lynched, though I suspect I personally am responsible for clarity's death since town was sheeping me. I think I fucked myself by overreacting to snb's case. iamp showing doubt got me killed, fairly sure. Even though he was like the last to get on me | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: DP wasn't reading the thread-- I had him as my least townie town read for that. your death reads post was dangerously indecisive. It was sooooo unlikely, like monumentally so, that DP was scum after the day 1 shenannies. "I like DP less, but I think Djo is scummier" was not as strong as I'd hoped, especially as you'd cottoned on to the fact that Djodref's setup speculation basically took days and confirmed players who would end up being confirmed eventually and weren't getting lynched. Like, there were REALLY REALLY GOOD REASONS why DP should be town, and none of these reasons existed for Djo. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:14 Blazinghand wrote: Unless your suggestion is that my gf's grandmother not die in the future, in which case we're set: she's all out of them I'm sorry if I made you angry enough for you to speak like that. I meant my comments to be more of a discussion. Seriously, I apologize. Sometimes I get carried away and don't think about the bigger picture of things. My condolences for your grandmother. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:21 Z-BosoN wrote: I'm sorry if I made you angry enough for you to speak like that. I meant my comments to be more of a discussion. Seriously, I apologize. Sometimes I get carried away and don't think about the bigger picture of things. My condolences for your grandmother. dude it's np it's my gf's grandmother I don't even know her, but my gf was so high maintenance it was unbelievable | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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