EPTIn any case I guess I should have had a stronger townread on DP but he basically didn't read the thread for a couple of days so it weakened. Djoref and SnB were still scummier for wasting all our time setup speculating so they both needed to be lynched.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
In any case I guess I should have had a stronger townread on DP but he basically didn't read the thread for a couple of days so it weakened. Djoref and SnB were still scummier for wasting all our time setup speculating so they both needed to be lynched. | ||
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marvellosity
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all's well that ends well, thankfully. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:22 Blazinghand wrote: Also I was just personally expressing distaste for DP, not that he should be lynched. And I did say Djoref was scummier. And he did concede as a result. Yeah but it sounded like you were torn between the two. It made me second guess my own reads when I decided DP couldnt be scum | ||
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Blazinghand
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DarthPunk
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On November 23 2012 08:08 Z-BosoN wrote: But you came dangerously dangerously close to that. Djo could actually have pulled it off. Yeah. But he would have had to fight me tooth and nail for a week to do so. I think you of all people know how uninviting a prospect that can be. That being said. I think I should be banned or something. It is clearly against the rules to win by making others not want to play. And I'm pretty sure that is what happened here. Also, regarding your lynch, stop being so butthurt about it. It is your job to make yourself look too townie to lynch also. The responsibility is not soley on us to see how 'obviously' town you were. YOu need to endeavour to make yourself look townie as possible so it becomes impossible to lynch you. That being said, Whilst I understand keir's viewpoint and thought about that, what gonzaw says is true and is exactly what I would have done as scum. Which is the only point of reference I have. Add to that that both marv and Blazinghand thought you were scum at different points of the game and that you, like me, almost got mislynched day one. There is some work that needs to be done on your town game to stop you getting mislynched. Also anyone saying that a miller claim should be treated in the same way as a miller claim is wrong. If people disagree I would love to hear their reasoning. @clarity. I felt your play was based on emotion rather than anything substantial. Especially with your reads on myself and djo. also you need to work on posting less IMO. 100 pages on night one is ridiculous for a mini IMO. Many people in the obs qt complained about it. The amount of content generated was unnecessary and hurt town IMO as it was very difficult to find anything important in the mess. Others may have different thoughts but I think the mass posting hurt town. hmm If I have any other thoughts I'll jot them down. Also I am actually burnt out BH. Don;t know why I would lie about it. I was actually going to take a break after ACME but keir asked me to join this and I <3 keir so what could I do.  | ||
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Keirathi
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Blazinghand
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote: That being said. I think I should be banned or something. It is clearly against the rules to win by making others not want to play. And I'm pretty sure that is what happened here. No, no, this is simply not a correct reflection of events. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:26 marvellosity wrote: No, no, this is simply not a correct reflection of events. I concur with the taciturn lord marvellosity | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah. But he would have had to fight me tooth and nail for a week to do so. I think you of all people know how uninviting a prospect that can be. That being said. I think I should be banned or something. It is clearly against the rules to win by making others not want to play. And I'm pretty sure that is what happened here. Also, regarding your lynch, stop being so butthurt about it. It is your job to make yourself look too townie to lynch also. The responsibility is not soley on us to see how 'obviously' town you were. YOu need to endeavour to make yourself look townie as possible so it becomes impossible to lynch you. That being said, Whilst I understand keir's viewpoint and thought about that, what gonzaw says is true and is exactly what I would have done as scum. Which is the only point of reference I have. Add to that that both marv and Blazinghand thought you were scum at different points of the game and that you, like me, almost got mislynched day one. There is some work that needs to be done on your town game to stop you getting mislynched. Also anyone saying that a miller claim should be treated in the same way as a miller claim is wrong. If people disagree I would love to hear their reasoning. @clarity. I felt your play was based on emotion rather than anything substantial. Especially with your reads on myself and djo. also you need to work on posting less IMO. 100 pages on night one is ridiculous for a mini IMO. Many people in the obs qt complained about it. The amount of content generated was unnecessary and hurt town IMO as it was very difficult to find anything important in the mess. Others may have different thoughts but I think the mass posting hurt town. hmm If I have any other thoughts I'll jot them down. Also I am actually burnt out BH. Don;t know why I would lie about it. I was actually going to take a break after ACME but keir asked me to join this and I <3 keir so what could I do. That's funny coming from someone who makes an OMGUS case on me because I made a case on him, and posted it at a really weird time. I'm also fairly certain I'm not the only one to blame for the size of this game. That said, yes I might have overdone it with my posting. You need to realize that D2 people were giving up though, so I was trying to keep town talking, but it ended up being me and djo a lot. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: DP wasn't reading the thread-- I had him as my least townie town read for that. Given that Hopeless was confirmed town and Kickstart and Iamp were both screamingly town, I think it's reasonable that DP was my least sure town read when I died. WTF I was reading the thread. I just kept getting stuff wrong because It starts all blending together after a while. I 100% read through the thread at least once and some parts multiple times. Also whenever I posted it was quite late so I made mistakes. | ||
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Blazinghand
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:22 Blazinghand wrote: Also I was just personally expressing distaste for DP, not that he should be lynched. And I did say Djoref was scummier. And he did concede as a result. In any case I guess I should have had a stronger townread on DP but he basically didn't read the thread for a couple of days so it weakened. Djoref and SnB were still scummier for wasting all our time setup speculating so they both needed to be lynched. Is that distaste because I was too aggressive or because I was lazy at for a couple of days? | ||
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Blazinghand
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
I kid. + Show Spoiler + About the being able to give pointers part. Experience, I do have. DP don't be silly. Maybe you're not nice to people, but really, who fucking cares. The parts you need to work on are things like this: Also anyone saying that a miller claim should be treated in the same way as a miller claim is wrong. If people disagree I would love to hear their reasoning. Like, wtf is wrong with you?!?!? | ||
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Blazinghand
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:27 Clarity_nl wrote: That's funny coming from someone who makes an OMGUS case on me because I made a case on him, and posted it at a really weird time. I'm also fairly certain I'm not the only one to blame for the size of this game. That said, yes I might have overdone it with my posting. You need to realize that D2 people were giving up though, so I was trying to keep town talking, but it ended up being me and djo a lot. WTF?!? OMGUS lol? I made a case against you day one. I VOTED for you before you even mentioned me, I thought you were scummy day one. It was not OMGUS at all... Also if you are worried about peoples contributions, drowning out everything else in useless spam is not the way to go about it. And shutting down people who actually try to get back in the game because you don;t like what they have to say is not the way either. You are right though. I think BH spammed to much and Djo did too for obvious reasons. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:24 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah. But he would have had to fight me tooth and nail for a week to do so. I think you of all people know how uninviting a prospect that can be. That being said. I think I should be banned or something. It is clearly against the rules to win by making others not want to play. And I'm pretty sure that is what happened here. Also, regarding your lynch, stop being so butthurt about it. It is your job to make yourself look too townie to lynch also. The responsibility is not soley on us to see how 'obviously' town you were. YOu need to endeavour to make yourself look townie as possible so it becomes impossible to lynch you. That being said, Whilst I understand keir's viewpoint and thought about that, what gonzaw says is true and is exactly what I would have done as scum. Which is the only point of reference I have. Add to that that both marv and Blazinghand thought you were scum at different points of the game and that you, like me, almost got mislynched day one. There is some work that needs to be done on your town game to stop you getting mislynched. Also anyone saying that a miller claim should be treated in the same way as a miller claim is wrong. If people disagree I would love to hear their reasoning. @clarity. I felt your play was based on emotion rather than anything substantial. Especially with your reads on myself and djo. also you need to work on posting less IMO. 100 pages on night one is ridiculous for a mini IMO. Many people in the obs qt complained about it. The amount of content generated was unnecessary and hurt town IMO as it was very difficult to find anything important in the mess. Others may have different thoughts but I think the mass posting hurt town. hmm If I have any other thoughts I'll jot them down. Also I am actually burnt out BH. Don;t know why I would lie about it. I was actually going to take a break after ACME but keir asked me to join this and I <3 keir so what could I do. DP, I think he gave up because he hasn't yet realized that people aren't nearly as confident as they seem. You fake confidence to appear convincing all the time, no matter the arguments you are using. This was clearly the case against me. Observe how I simply ignored you later on. You can shout and be insistent all you want - it doesn't make you a better player if you blatantly fail to read arguments and insist on things that have already been answered, whilst ignoring the explanation. Luckily you are not stupid and got it right on Djodref.. but being unable to be reasoned with doesn't make you a better player. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:17 Blazinghand wrote: And I had Djodref on my scum list, but you DO NOT lynch a guy the day he replaces in. This is a personal policy I follow-- though we can discuss the wisdom of it, I really don't like lynching replacements the first day. Also my vote was on SnB when clarity was lynched, though I suspect I personally am responsible for clarity's death since town was sheeping me. Why do you have this policy? If the original player and/or the replacement are acting scummy, shouldn't you lynch them like any other player? | ||
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