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iamperfection
United States9635 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:26 Blazinghand wrote: The fact that you now think I'm an SK instead of scum is... I don't even know what to say. Look, at least for the scum argument you could be like "He's the scum RBer so he could support his claim by using his RB power" or something. It would still be a retarded play but at least there is a path to victory for a scum fakeclaiming JK. I can't possible imagine how an SK could claim JK, and not, say, VIGILANTE, and that would be even remotely reasonable. Djoref I think you're wasting more of our time. If you're gonna point fingers at people at least... at least have it be plausible. come on, man. Yeah, you're right about the SK thing, I didn't think it through. But let's take a look again at your claim. It was halfway through D1 and you must have felt some pressure to claim, regardless of your alignment. Town motivations
Mafia motivations(you are the roleblocker in this case)
What I don't like at all is the follow-up you give to your claim. As S&B pointed it out, you keep on saying how uncontested your claim is and you lynched Hapa when it was not sure at all that you were going to lynch him. I'm not wasting my time, I want people to understand that you are scummy despite the circumstances ! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:28 Blazinghand wrote: Well I'm glad we've cleared that up. Djoref you've promised us twice that you'd get a read on iamp, and mentioned you were reading up on him. What are your thoughts? I have a town read on iamp for the moment. His filter was difficult to go through because they a way too many short posts but the whole thing seems emotionally right to me. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:02 DarthPunk wrote: We are not lynching BH until MAYBE after ZB DJO Clarity S&B are all dead. Continuing on that tangent is anti town. He has already 2 votes and debears has voted him during the exchange between S&B and BH. I'm going to push his lynch because you are wrong and I think I'm right. I don't care if I die in the process because we can afford some mislynch and you are going to understand that all my cases were genuine when I flip. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:06 Djodref wrote: He has already 2 votes and debears has voted him during the exchange between S&B and BH. I'm going to push his lynch because you are wrong and I think I'm right. I don't care if I die in the process because we can afford some mislynch and you are going to understand that all my cases were genuine when I flip. Do you not understand that you are almost certainly lynching a blue? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
What do you really have against Z-Bo except for the meta part of your case ? Did you read the skype conversations ? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:07 Djodref wrote: @ DarthPunk What do you really have against Z-Bo except for the meta part of your case ? Did you read the skype conversations ? Read the case. It is pretty clear it is not solely based on meta. Maybe we should lynch you for being terrible though. THAT is very tempting. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:07 DarthPunk wrote: Do you not understand that you are almost certainly lynching a blue? Does he behave like town ? No. As I've explained, there is only 40% chances for us to have a jailkeeper. It's far from being almost certain that he is indeed jailkeeper. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:09 Djodref wrote: Does he behave like town ? No. As I've explained, there is only 40% chances for us to have a jailkeeper. It's far from being almost certain that he is indeed jailkeeper. ZB is far far scummier than anyone else right now. He claimed miller. Usually that should be enough to lynch him right there. He very likely tried to WIFOM around scum HAPA in order to make him look good if ZB flipped red. The meta is fucking damning on top of it all. Lynching a Blue claim is newb play and is fucking stupid. You are being fucking stupid and anti town for pursuing this. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 11:03 DarthPunk wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 15 2012 10:50 Z-BosoN wrote: Also, if anyone is thinking of voting me, it is becasue you are blindly sheeping marv. Fucking read my defense, FUCKING READ WHAT I SAID REGARDING MY META. FUCKING READ WHAT HAPA SAID. It's a case based SOLELY ON META DP is acting VERY differently then when he is scum gettingl ynched. I want to unvote him and vote for hopeless. Also, if I for some godly reason to get lynched. Here are my reads: Hapa: scum scum scum. Gonna go after him day 2 should I live. BH probably scum. I can't fathom his claim AT ALL. Kill him should he be alive in like, day 3. Rest of everybody I'm not sure. Marv is prob town, an arrogant fucking one who can't see the reasonable explanation I've given, but he's pretty much town. ZB wants to vote hopeless whilst screaming that BH and HAPA are scum. On November 15 2012 10:51 Z-BosoN wrote: SIgh... looks like town decided to sheep a read to which I gave a perfectly plausible explanation. Lynch Hapahauli. That's about it. Can't fucking believe this. He then doesn't mention BH or hopeless at all and says we should vote HAPA. On November 15 2012 10:52 Z-BosoN wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Hopeless1der At least in my future games, I'll be able to keep this much better and improved meta up. He then Votes for hopeless despite proclaiming Hapa is scum. He then says we should lynch Hapa despite not actually voting for him yet. On November 15 2012 10:55 Z-BosoN wrote: LYNCH HAPAHAULI. LYNCH BLAZINGHAND. when he is alive day 3. marv, hope you learn you are not the fucking god of mafia, and see that meta reads are only worth it if it isn't fucking obvious stylistic proven logical and pre-claimed reasons. This is like such an obvious WIFOM bomb. It was super obvious as soon as I saw it. He is not adding anything to the thread in terms of info or reads but is laying the framework for association WIFOM. On November 15 2012 11:13 Z-BosoN wrote: WHAT NOW?!?!?!?!?!?!?! DEBEARS FUCKING HIGH FIVE I'LL SAY WHY I THOUGHT HAPA WAS SCUM WHEN THIS IS OVER. This is like so easy to fake as scum. He says he will tell us why he thought hapa is scum later. As if he had some way of knowing. He promises to reveal them later. On November 15 2012 11:22 Z-BosoN wrote: Nah man, I figured he was scum due to totally different reasons than yours. I just didn't think we would have lynched him based on my arguments alone, and I didn't want to get in a verbal fight with him (he's so fucking difficult to deal with). His interaction with you I'd say was fairly regular. Let us compare dicks when the game is over though, and right now REJOICE!!!! Town fucking awesome. I fucking love you guys. I fucking fucking love you guys. YOU lynched hapa. And now the information we get is OUTSTANDING. Scum is almost 100% in my wagon (maaaaybe except BH, but nah, not voting him tomorrow). I'm obvious not fucking scum, my reads were obviously my last will. Fuck yea. Again he says here that he had some arguments for why HAPA was scum and they were different from debears. We are still waiting for his explanation though. And here it is On November 16 2012 02:47 Z-BosoN wrote: I thought hapa was scum, but since it was mostly gut feeling, I didn't think I'd be able to lynch him day one. I've indicated this in this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=36#714 Also. ZB has several list posts in his filter which are not what I expect from town and scummy in general. Posts like these LINK LINK LINK LINK All list posts that contain some few meaningless statements and are the exact thing scum ZB posts which Town ZB does not. I am positive ZB is scum from reading his filter and knowing his meta and we must lynch him today. Your case revolves around the fact that Z-Bo didn't vote Hapa when giving us his last will where he tells us to lynch Hapa. I can see him voting for Hopeless in an attempt to save his life rather than vote for Hapa who had zero votes against him at this time. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:13 DarthPunk wrote: ZB is far far scummier than anyone else right now. He claimed miller. Usually that should be enough to lynch him right there. He very likely tried to WIFOM around scum HAPA in order to make him look good if ZB flipped red. The meta is fucking damning on top of it all. Lynching a Blue claim is newb play and is fucking stupid. You are being fucking stupid and anti town for pursuing this. Lynching an uncontested blue claim is as stupid as wanting to lynch an uncontested miller claim. What's with your double standards ? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
what a guy | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Let's look at the two following players Blazinghands
Yet he is the last on your lynch list Z-BosoN
You want to lynch him today The probability for us to have a miller is roughly the same than the probability for us to have a JK. They both couldn't confirm their claims by any actions. Why can you not understand this ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:28 Blazinghand wrote: lol equating jk claim with miller claim what a guy Probability-wise, it's similar, and here it's the case because you failed to prove us that your claim is right, which I doubt. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On November 17 2012 15:29 Djodref wrote: @ DarthPunk Let's look at the two following players Blazinghands
Yet he is the last on your lynch list Z-BosoN
You want to lynch him today The probability for us to have a miller is roughly the same than the probability for us to have a JK. They both couldn't confirm their claims by any actions. Why can you not understand this ? Yep. Your an idiot. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Then you have to explain me precisely where is the flaw in my logic. If Z-Bo is indeed scum, it was a great risk for him to claim miller because he had roughly a 40% chance to be counterclaimed right away. And explain me why would he claim miller as roleblocker ? Why not claiming jailkeeper in this case if he wanted to fakeclaim at the beginning of D1 ? Why claiming when there was no pressure ? You are exactly the same idiot as I am. But the difference is that Z-Bo has showed more town traits than BH if you discard the meta thing. And for you to seriously believe that we nailed all the scumteam during D1 and N1... you are worse than me Z-Bo had two confirmed mafia votes against him, if he was bussed and plant WIFOM, why would he try to survive after all ? | ||
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