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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 13:38 Blazinghand wrote: look, to the other blue, if you want to claim this cycle, do it at the end of N2 during action resolution, or maybe if you're gonna get lynched or if you have a green check on someone who's gonna get lynched. Don't go listening to what jubjubs have to say about it. use your own judgement Sorry I meant at the end of N2  | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
/agree with BH on save claims for later. At the earliest, during night resolution, but do not feel that you have to. I felt it was necessary for me to claim considering the amount of suspicion against me, and the fact that marv's top two scumreads got eliminated if my claim was true. It served a purpose to claim the way I did, it wasn't arbitrary or strictly to save my own ass (though this was a factor). | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
First of all, could you get my name right ? Call me Djo if you prefer but not Djoref  Then is think that S&B brings good points against you (namely the "big plays" part and the insistence you have when you state that there is no way for you to be scum). If find it particularly odd that you attach so much value to your uncontested JK claim and that you dare to attack Z-Bo on his miller claim when the probabilities are quite similar. The fact that S&B goes so hard after you and that you attack him personally when defend yourself speaks for him and against you. So I would say that S&B is less scummy in my eyes right now while you got back to my top scumread. I think you just got lucky with your fakeclaim... On another note, I really don't like debears behavior lately, his 180 on you (he went as far as to vote against you) and also this post + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2012 09:36 debears wrote: Can we double lynch BH and SnB???? BH debears S&B | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
##Vote BH | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On November 17 2012 13:50 Djodref wrote: I forgot something ##Vote BH Your officially an idiot. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 13:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djodref, read the OP setup. No one-shot variants of anything, except all vig's are one-shot. Setup speculation needs to stop, it isn't catching the last scum. /agree with BH on save claims for later. At the earliest, during night resolution, but do not feel that you have to. I felt it was necessary for me to claim considering the amount of suspicion against me, and the fact that marv's top two scumreads got eliminated if my claim was true. It served a purpose to claim the way I did, it wasn't arbitrary or strictly to save my own ass (though this was a factor). Ok thanks. Regarding setup speculation, I think we obtained valuable information with the flip of Bowser and the fact that Z-Bo and you are likely town and not fakeclaiming. If I'm right about BH fakeclaiming and about Z-Bo and you, then the only setup possible would be this one MVTTTTT which gives us Goon + Godfather, Serial Killer which would mean that there is not a 3rd mafia player but a SK remaining. And this has roughly 40% chances to happen given the mafia flips. Somehow, a SK BH would make more sense than a scum BH, especially regarding Hapa lynch. What do you think ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I could tell you the same with your Z-Bo vote. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote: @ BH First of all, could you get my name right ? Call me Djo if you prefer but not Djoref oh shit you just made a mistake its Djoref till the end of time now. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
@ DarthPunk Let's try to have some constructive discussion, shall we ? What do you think of the possibility for BH to be a very ballsy SK ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 09:36 debears wrote: Can we double lynch BH and SnB???? @ debears Can you explain me this post and your latest vote and unvote against BH in details ? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:06 Djodref wrote: @ DarthPunk Let's try to have some constructive discussion, shall we ? What do you think of the possibility for BH to be a very ballsy SK ? It still wouldn't make sense. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
. but he had no guarantees for killing mafia day 1 and claiming jk would make him a prime target for mafia. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Yes, but you have to consider the fact that he was already on the radar of some players halfway through D1. It was a big risk to take but I think the reward is that town players don't want to lynch you anymore. Did he look more concerned by his survival or did he look more concerned by scumhunting during D1 ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:18 iamperfection wrote: i guess maybe if there were in fact 2 scum he could fake claim role block untill the end of time . but he had no guarantees for killing mafia day 1 and claiming jk would make him a prime target for mafia. True enough, I didn't consider the fact that he would have been a target of choice for the mafia. I'm going to drop this SK thing then. Anyway, if he is the third scum, he his 100% a role blocker and it makes sense for the roleblocker to claim JK, doesn't it ? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Djoref I think you're wasting more of our time. If you're gonna point fingers at people at least... at least have it be plausible. come on, man. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:22 Djodref wrote: @ iamp Yes, but you have to consider the fact that he was already on the radar of some players halfway through D1. It was a big risk to take but I think the reward is that town players don't want to lynch you anymore. Did he look more concerned by his survival or did he look more concerned by scumhunting during D1 ? the death of hapa would suggest scumhunting .several people were suspicious of hapa and as much as it pains me i have to give him some credit for that even if it take away for the glory which is rightfully mine. Just because players are good doesn't mean they always lay their best. Bh reminds me a lot of VE in liquid city a vet who had a lot expected of him but kind of crumbled. No matter what delusions he has that he is playing well. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 17 2012 14:26 Djodref wrote: True enough, I didn't consider the fact that he would have been a target of choice for the mafia. I'm going to drop this SK thing then. Anyway, if he is the third scum, he his 100% a role blocker and it makes sense for the roleblocker to claim JK, doesn't it ? not really in that scenario there likely would have actually been a jk and it would have been bh going for 1 for 1 trade when he had 2 or 3 votes on him. | ||
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