On August 30 2012 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: I question jaedong over Roro but eh whatever
Jaedong finished the SPL with 10W 9L and 6W 3L in ace matches. Roro finished 8W 6L and 3W 4L in ace matches. On paper Jaedong performed better in SPL. Jaedong was 3W 2L against Zergs, and Roro was 2W 4L, and Jaedong was 6W 7L against Protoss, and Roro was 5W 2L.
Btw I wonder how this was decided. Did the Kespa players do internal qualification games? Or was it just based on a coach decision? That would suck I have to say.
On August 30 2012 21:56 Redox wrote: No Terran makes me sad.
Btw I wonder how this was decided. Did the Kespa players do internal qualification games? Or was it just based on a coach decision? That would suck I have to say.
It's based off SPL performance, with extra emphasis placed on ace match wins.
Fantasy not being seeded makes me upset. 6-1, beat Nestea, is a terran, is Fantasy, what more could you ask for?
On August 30 2012 18:37 snowbird wrote: The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)
A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:
Proleague Ranking
Code S: Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495 JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390
yep, it's a bit sad for roro, but jaedong is also a big name, who can draw lots of attention. I hope he can improve his weak matchups and perform well.
edit: ah ok, that ranking makes sense. whatever, I'm definitely looking forward to the next season!
I'm the biggest jaedong fanboy on the internets, my hwaseung calendar signed by his team is my most prized possession but I dunno if he's quite ready for code S. He did crazy well in the wcs tournament, but I'm still really nervous for him.
On August 30 2012 18:10 Incomplet wrote: Pfff. Jaedong instead of Roro. I guess business reigned supreme over current skill level and accomplishments
jaeh all seeds are nice the only thing is that roro would be better in code s then jaedong
also reality would be nice and not trap because reality even was the only who qualified for wcs korea qualifier and not got invited and made a nice run there
ahh i see only peroleague well its sad becauzse herO did SO well in wcs ^^
On August 30 2012 18:37 snowbird wrote: The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)
A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:
Proleague Ranking
Code S: Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495 JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390
Jaedong had a better proleague performance than Roro, it's really not unreasonable that he gets the Code S seed over Roro...
edit: As the post above me makes clear. It's just like in WCS when people thought Kespa chose the players to send (looking at you TL writers who kept saying they "hand-picked" players...). It simply goes by the proleague ranking.
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote: Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket. Finish 4th overall. Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0. Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S
Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.
Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.
On August 30 2012 18:10 Fionn wrote: Be final KeSPA player in winner's bracket. Finish 4th overall. Beat CURRENT GSL champion 2-0. Only lose two series 1-2...TO THE TWO FINALISTS Get Code A and Jaedong gets Code S
Obviously Jaedong is wildly more popular, and this is going to make this season the greatest ever, but I feel bad for Roro.
Bison deserves his spot. He has been the best player in Proleague, is OSL (1-0 over MKP), and was the second best placing KeSPA player during WCS Korea.
The seeds have nothing to do with popularity, afaik KeSPA used their proleague rankings (not exactly sure how they work)
A reddit user (rbcd) posted this:
Proleague Ranking
Code S: Rain - 13-6, 7 ace match wins = 495 JaeDong 10-9, 6 ace match wins = 390
I actualy would've liked Jaedong in Code A. Not because he's not good enough, but because the pressure will be huge. Every Gom pro and his mom will want to take him down (He also still needs to practice bw for the Proleague play-offs). Beïng in Code A is a lot less pressure with having to play less established pro's, and only needing to practice 1 matchup at a time. Anyway, hope he does well.
On August 30 2012 18:10 Incomplet wrote: Pfff. Jaedong instead of Roro. I guess business reigned supreme over current skill level and accomplishments
jaeh all seeds are nice the only thing is that roro would be better in code s then jaedong
also reality would be nice and not trap because reality even was the only who qualified for wcs korea qualifier and not got invited and made a nice run there
ahh i see only peroleague well its sad becauzse herO did SO well in wcs ^^
Proleague is always the 1st priority for KeSPA players, Reality even said that he practiced more BW then SC2 before his WCS game.
On August 30 2012 22:25 6NR wrote: Eh Jaedong? I mean he's doing good but if I have to be honest Roro deserves that spot more. Anyway, grats to all Kespa. By.Rain will clean up the GSL.
I have to be honest you did not watch Proleague and trying to judge according to WCS that is not right. I recommend you to watch this game from Jaedong (Trap is the best player on STX):
I wonder if one of them will be in Nani's group. Would it be the first foreigner vs Kespa match? They can't be same group as Mana since all 3 should be in tier 4.
RoRo should have got the Code S seed, and REALITY a Code A seed. They're better than most of the guys listed that are seeded, popularity contest once again.
Also pretty foolish they go off of Proleague results... it's players on the same level playing against each other...
OSL, WCG, WCS should have been taken into count more, it was KESPA vs. GSL aka much harder and more demanding, results mattered way more.
On August 30 2012 22:48 NuKE[vZ] wrote: RoRo should have got the Code S seed, and REALITY a Code A seed. They're better than most of the guys listed that are seeded, popularity contest once again.
Did you read the thread? It was based on PL points ranking... You can't just base it on WCS.
On August 30 2012 22:48 NuKE[vZ] wrote: RoRo should have got the Code S seed, and REALITY a Code A seed. They're better than most of the guys listed that are seeded, popularity contest once again.
Also pretty foolish they go off of Proleague results... it's players on the same level playing against each other...
OSL, WCG, WCS should have been taken into count more, it was KESPA vs. GSL aka much harder and more demanding, results mattered way more.
And how would you create a perfectly fair system for all these events which had seeding?