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I am going to write a post. I am aware that my writing speed is some what slow, so I am going to post a short summary of what is about to come.
@mouldy/unforgiven_ve swap - my thoughts
@sciberbia - my slight suspicion due to his discussion about night actions.
@suki and rolf "conspiracy theory"- dismissing it
@my thought on O.Golden_ne vs austinmcc. My suspicion on Golden has grown while austinmcc's filters strikes me as being town.
@my prime suspect - roflwaffle55, please look at my reasoning before judging if I have a bias. I am aware I focused on him and suki a lot and seems to be counter attacking hard. I don't see why I should hide my suspicion just because I fear people will take it wrongly. Judge my reasoning!!
I have not focused on other players yet, I will post my content soon.
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I've gone through the filters and updated my reads. I think we are in pretty good shape due to yesterday's lynch. There are a handful of players that look pretty townie after HeavOnEarth's flip, and having a bunch of townreads alive is great for us.
Even more importantly, there is one player in particular who looks quite scummy after yesterday: roflwaffles55
roflwaffles gets more and more suspicious as the day goes on, but I'll start with minor things at the beginning, and go through his noteworthy posts chronologically
his comment on trackd00r+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On June 13 2012 22:28 roflwaffles55 wrote:
I woke up this morning to the arguments made towards trackd00r, and while the arguments made against him weren't particularly convincing, his defense was a little bit lackluster as well.
However, I would like to bring your attention to someone else that is acting quite scummy as it stands.
He avoids taking a stance on trackd00r using phrases such as "weren't particularly convincing" and "little bit lackluster". His language is slightly scummy to begin with. And he doesn't actually contribute his own opinion. Minor points.
his case on alan+ Show Spoiler +Overall, I thought his case on alan was reasonable, but a bit of a stretch. On June 13 2012 22:28 roflwaffles55 wrote:
This is the post that really got me wondering. How by now can you have no suspicions? There has been quite a few suspicious decisions by several people, giving you more then enough time to form a case against someone, or at least apply some pressure. At that early point in the game, I personally wasn't very suspicious of anyone, and not many suspicions had been voiced overall. Yet roflwaffles criticizes alan for not forming any cases or applying pressure. Only miltonkram and suki had previously applied pressure. roflwaffle's decision to attack alan feels arbitrary, much like HeavonEarth's decision to attack golden. On June 13 2012 22:28 roflwaffles55 wrote:
He throws around some suspicion towards Miltonkram, however not enough to constitute a case or apply any pressure, just enough to make people go filter milton and consider what he might have done, which yet again, leaves him out of the spotlight. This is a stretch. alan throws suspicion at miltonkram in order to get people to start suspecting miltonkram so that alan isn't in the spotlight? Kinda farfetch'd. In summary, roflwaffle's original case against alan wasn't terrible, but definitely didn't impress me or make him look townie.
his probing of MJ+ Show Spoiler +On June 13 2012 23:18 roflwaffles55 wrote:
Hey mouldyjeb, glad to see you posting! Do you have any other evidence or reasons beyond miltons lighthearted attitude at the beginning? State them if you do, as well as any suspicions against me! Don't keep them to yourself!
Also, what are your opinions on the cases so far, like mine against alan133 and suki's against trackd00r?
I ask these because that was a fairly lackluster post when it comes to your first of the game and id like you to bring some fresh opinions to the table. Here roflwaffles probes MJ a bit and calls his first post "fairly lackluster". This is an easy post to make and puts attention on a lurky player (who I think is town). Another minor point.
backing off of alan+ Show Spoiler +This is where I start to get some significant suspicions. The only two people that originally repsonded to roflwaffle's case on alan were alan and suki. Alan posted a counteraggressive defense, and suki said she didn't find the case very convincing. So roflwaffles felt some heat on his case. On June 14 2012 01:35 roflwaffles55 wrote:
While I am completely aware that my case has several holes in it, nobody can expect an ironclad case halfway through D1. The points you bring up in the first half of your response to me continue to be ambiguous, I'm glad you started to get your legitimate opinions out there, being quiet and neutral will get us nowhere. Both of our initial posts tended to agree with the majority, but as I said, that wasn't the focus of my argument, it was the post on the suki argument that got my suspicions roused. Previously, roflwaffles said that alan was acting "quite scummy" and voted him. Now he is "completely aware that my case has several holes in it". I agree with miltonkram's sentiment that roflwaffle's inital case on alan was reasonable, and it is a bit odd how he backs away from it here. On June 14 2012 01:35 roflwaffles55 wrote:
Yes, I did vote you, but you forget that votes are easily removable, and the fact that you had to write a sensationalist paragraph in red text rather then just poke through the obvious logical holes in my cases convince me that you have something to lose, whether it be scum, blue, or just poor play. More suspicious statements here. His pointing out that votes are easily removeable makes him seem scared of alan. Again, he talks about the "obvious logical holes" in his cases. I didn't see any obvious logical holes in roflwaffle's case and I don't think roflwaffles did either, seeing as he called alan "quite scummy" and subsequently voted him. Finally, being coninvced that alan has something to lose "whether it be scum, blue, or just poor play" is not townie analysis. Townies are only interested in finding scum. And roflwaffles is further distancing himself from his own accusation of alan.
continues to attack alan+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2012 15:03 roflwaffles55 wrote:
I'm currently waiting on Mouldy Jeb's and alan133's responses to the cases brought against them, until something convinces me otherwise, I still believe that alan133 is increasingly suspicious.
roflwaffles did some more attacking on alan, but didn't have any new reasons to be suspicious, merely stating that alan's lack of arguments is suspicious. But you could say this about many players. I'm not sure why roflwoffles "still believes that alan133 is increasingly suspicious". Also, note that he is still anti-MJ.
analyzes the danger of each potential mafia+ Show Spoiler +I find this post really scummy. + Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 02:44 roflwaffles55 wrote:
I'm going to post as though all of these people are scum, and the impact they have a chance to make if they are left alive. I think it will give a different way of thinking about it.
Crossfire99
Sciberbia posted a convincing case on him already, and several people have posted tidbits on him, however, nobody has put the focus on him (partially my fault). Therefore, if he is in fact following the thread and trying slide under the radar of suspicion while we focus on alan133, suki, and HeavOnEarth, he is going to get away with it.
His play was very lackluster and never brought fresh reads to the table. Out of everyone, if he is scum, he seems to be one of the most dangerous to let live.
alan133
I've already tunneled the crap out of him, and his defenses have been drastic and overly reactionary. If he were left alive, I honestly think he could do a fair bit of damage as scum, just because he defends very well and seems to have people convinced as to his innocence.
HeavOnEarth
His play is quite suspicious and his accusations and suspicions lackluster at best. He could just as easily be an awful townie as scum.
Overall he's been fairly ineffectual, but if he's hiding behind a mask of confusion and bad reads, he could be an annoyance as scum later on.
suki
It would be self-serving of me to defend suki, as she took my case against alan133 and improved it, I believe in her case. But for the benefit of the doubt, let's assume she's scum. The strength or lack thereof (trapd00r case) of her cases imply that she's trying to lead the vote towards those that aren't scum.
If she is scum, she could be quite dangerous later on.
All of that theorizing on what they "could" do if they were scum being done...
I believe that the most lynchable potential scum right now would be Crossfire99. I understand that there are already votes on HeavOnEarth, but if he really is that incompetent at bringing cases to the table, as a scum, why would he try to post them? He is suspicious to me, but not as suspicious as Crossfire. Unless he responds to the accusations in a convincing and collected manner soon, I strongly believe that he should be lynched.
##vote Crossfire99 This kind of analysis is just really useless. Our goal isn't to lycnh players that would be dangerous if they are scum. On the contrary, it is to figure out who actually is scum. But roflwaffles doesn't do that here. Previously, roflwaffles had said nothing about crossfire, but now votes crossfire because he is the most "lynchable" and potentially dangerous scum. These are pretty bad reasons, and Crossfire had some serious suspicion on him already. roflwaffles is just jumping on the bandwaggon with poor reasoning. roflwaffles is all over the place with HeavOnEarth. He describes HeavOnEarth as "quite suspicious", but says he could just as easily be an awful townie. On June 15 2012 02:47 roflwaffles55 wrote:
Oh shit, forgot about Mouldy Jeb.. obviously he's an easy lynch to make, and if we can't come to a majority then we should just get rid of him barring some legitimate posts on his part. Continues to support a lynch of Mouldy Jeb. Overall, this recent activity is quite scummy imo.
further scummy defense of HeavOnEarth+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 05:09 roflwaffles55 wrote:
I noticed already that his play was scummy, however I felt like it was the easy way out, I was hoping to nail a more influential scum D1, but I guess that's just new player optimism... If he flips scum, I'm not sure what kind of information we're going to gain from it as his posts don't seem to link him to anyone.. and if he flips town then all we really know is that he was a poor townie.
I'll go with the flow because he's fairly blatant with his scumminess (real word?) but I'd like to keep an eye on Crossfire, as well as keeping Mouldy Jeb in mind for a D2 lynch.
##unvote Crossfire99
##vote HeavOnEarth
I'm not sure if I'll be on tonight, I'll do my absolute best to be on in case there's a swing of opinion. This just reads as a blatantly scummy defense to me, knowing that HeavOnEarth is mafia. He is trying to say that he suspected HeavOnEarth all along, but that he was hoping for something more (???) He also questions the information we get from a HeavOnEarth lynch, which is a secondary issue. If he is scummy, we should lynch him. Finally, he attributes his difference of opinion to "new player optimism" which is a scummy excuse.
In summary, I think there is a pretty good chance roflwaffles is scum, based mostly on his last couple of posts before the deadline.
I'm super tired now and going to sleep. I'll be pretty busy for the rest of night phase, so you probably won't see much more posting out of me this night. But I'll have plenty of time to dedicate to the game this weekend, so I expect to be quite active during D2.
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@mouldy/unforgiven_ve swap
I am not sure what to think of this, I feel like it has reset MJ/unforgive's rather bad position.
Question
+ Show Spoiler +Is it cheating if I used mod's actions (modkill/player swapping) to backup my reasoning? I don't see this in the "cheating" section: I am not posting sharing mob's PM, just pointing out a very visible action mod did.
I removed my reasoning as it potentially breaks the rule, but you should be able to see what I was going to talk about.
@sciberbia
I find his night post similar to the day post: giving advise. I am fine with the day post, but not with the night post
Keep in mind the mafias game that I have played (outside TL, non forum-ish), discussions is not allowed right after the role flip. I may have overlook the "neutrality" on sciberbia's suggestions.
That said, my idea was night action should never be discussed as it might reveal a blue. The only information that mafia does not already have is who among us has a power role. I also find the role block claim suggestion weird, especially he mentioned there is may or may not be a Jail Keeper and we can't differentiate which is what.
This made me look through his filters again.
His filters reveals that he has been focusing a lot on suki's cases, and has been defending me against her case. He is also having doubts on suki, but is with a valid reasoning.
sciberbia is also one of the few who brought our attention to heavOnEarth. At that time, almost no one else paid attention to him, and I think there is no reason to "bus" a scum buddy in this early part of the game, unless it is a really (to avoid confusion) "high level mind game".
I looked through his filter and seems like there is nothing else fishy about him, other than the night post, his analysis seems objective and clear, and is generally helping town. I know I am inconsistent with me deeming him "suspicious" in my summary post, but I did not read in detail at that time and now I actually think he is neutral if not, town sided for calling out a good read.
sciberbia is off my radar for now
@O.Golden
I find Golden carelessly friendly.
+ Show Spoiler + Reluctant to vote on
suki or alan113 at the current time, because i honestly feel like theyre clashing for the wrong reasons.
i'd be more inclined to lynch suki just because of the tunneling, however i dont feel a Mafia would be so aggressive day one (MAAAASSIVE RISK, but risk = reward?).
He don't "feel" like any of us is scum. He thinks Alan and suki is town.
Then he commented about Crossfire
+ Show Spoiler +Crossfire seems okay too me, i liked his posts. If he posted a few more like it, with about 40% more content (pulled a # out of my ass) on players and some reads/opinions on cases i'd be a happy chappy. Time will tell on this character.
He thinks crossfire is townie, until this
+ Show Spoiler +honestly i can't believe i missed sciberbia's case on Crossfire99. FML maybe i got the totally wrong read on him. Ima refresh my mind on HeavonEarth and Sciberbia and then post after i mull their feeds over a game of SOTIS. Talk soon lovers.
GauldenWahn
How are you sure sciberbia is not a scum, trying to misguide you? You seems to agree with anyone, but when someone else is questioned, you suddenly turn your Super Scum Detector towards said person.
I find his reason for voting HeavonEarth echoes from other players, while this is a non issue consider how late he is and there is nothing much to add, These sentences really bothers me.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 06:27 O.Golden_ne wrote:
also, if we're too take a hard stance on lurking behaviour. Perhaps we can focus on someone with a smaller content count than myself? Worth a thought mang.
in regards to HeavonEarth.
In relation to my:
a) knowing i'm town.
b) Him trying to bus me one the grounds of "seems like a solid case".
c) lacklustre contribution and no rebuttle to any arguments.
i feel like he see's a bandwagon forming and jumps on straight away.
#VOTE: HeavonEarth
i still maintain a #FOS on MouldyJeb
i still owe the group a comment on Crossfire99 but i honestly dont have time for it before work.
The first highlighted sentence seems to me you are trying to avoid a fight, you are afraid to stand out too much, even after being able to reply with a convincing answer for your defense, you just want it to stop right here, right now, "don't look at me". While I understand not everyone wants to stand out -
The second statement set off alarm for me. Unless neutrals are involved, everyone "knows" themselves as town. This just shows me you are constantly aware that you want to present yourself as "town".
+ Show Spoiler +comments:
i like suki's approach to the situation, she's changed it up and she's added some new content to her vote which is refreshing. We'll obviously need to keep an eye on Alan113 just because everyone needs to be pressured several times during the course of the game, i just never found him to be as scummy as say HeavonEarth is looking atm.
SOOO much angleshooting from peoples previous performances in other games. Keep it relevant is all i'm saying.
This post agree with how I painted you so far. You diverts attention to me. What did you add to that post?
- I approve suki's new post (Because it is refreshing..? How about comment on the content itself?)
- Everyone look at Alan113!+ Show Spoiler + He obviously needs a little more pressure!
But wait, what did you said a few post ealier?
+ Show Spoiler +Alan113 is now hard-tunneled by suki for the rest of the day. I'm finding this the most frustrating day one tunnel i've seen, i was indecisive regarding suki and then i saw her most recent posts and hoped to god she looked at something other than Alan113. But her argument against Alan113 here is essentially saying that he is mafia because he is defending himself. I'm finding it hard to see how Alan113 can do anything but defend himself up until this point.
You contradicted yourself saying I was being tunneled too hard and is not able to contribute when you defended me
If I overlooked anything, please point it out.
My point:
- Golden agrees easily with people - Not what I would expect from a newbie town
- Golden keeps diverting the spotlight away from him without giving much contribution.
- Golden tries to please other players, passively support cases.
O.Golden is my secondary Suspect
@austinmcc
Looking at austinmcc's filter, he seems to be playing very dis-trustingly. This strikes me as a town trait for being uncertain
of the situation.
I would like to mention that in his Lurker and broken promise post, he did not mention Heave. He also did not vote Heav. Regardless, it wouldn't change the outcome, there is no risk of a NK. His reasoning behind voting Cross instead of Heave was pretty convincing too.
austinmcc looks town to me
@suki and rolf "conspiracy theory"
Other than the reason I stated in my previous post how I over weighted suki's scum tell, I don't find her response consistence with my reading.
If they were indeed partners, I don't see any motivation behind scum suki's outburst and openly confronted me. If scum suki is scum, she would have been intentionally defending me against her buddy. She should be aware that I wasn't only attacking the ones that attack me.
Scum suki would want to stay quiet, like what rolf did. He simply did a "OMGUS", ignoring the reasoning I gave, while repeating his case with the exact same points. Suki, on the other hand, did a case with valid reasoning on me, and she was pushing her agenda on me until she got a satisfying answer. This gives me a town read on her. I would like to see other people's standing with suki.
Suki-rolf scum-buddies scenario is unlikely.
Suki's seems probable town to me
@rolfwaffle55
I will dedicate a separate post just for you. I have more than enough proof in your Day 1 play to write a decisive case on you.
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On June 15 2012 12:54 Crossfire99 wrote:
Am I going to be modkilled?
No, but please remember to vote.
On June 15 2012 19:07 alan133 wrote:
Is it cheating if I used mod's actions (modkill/player swapping) to backup my reasoning? I don't see this in the "cheating" section: I am not posting sharing mob's PM, just pointing out a very visible action mod did.
No.
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Wow, I wasn't expecting to see so much new stuff on my morning refresh. I'm glad N1 is not a silent night. I'll be posting a larger post before N1 is over, but sciberbia and alan133 are spot on with our best day 2 lynch candidate.
Scum #2: roflewaffles55
I have an idea of who #3 is too, stay tuned.
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On June 15 2012 13:25 Crossfire99 wrote:
Austin, the only thing I can say to you is that I know you will hold me accountable and make sure I post good stuff after I'm done with what I get done tonight. Hopefully I'll make it to day 2, so that you can see I'm trying. I also implore you consider that you might be getting a lot of your certainty and strong feelings on me from our last game. Try to look past that game, and look how I'm playing this game.
Sorry to hear about the accident; hope you're not injured.
I'm certainly getting some of my feelings from last game  , but there IS a big lack of contribution so far this game. More than willing to hold you accountable moving forward.
Will be looking back over things while at work. So far rofl is looking pretty red, and, while I want to look it over again, that most likely means that we're looking at MJ/unforgiven as town and possibly alan as town. Not enough pressure on MJ to look bus-y, looks more like trying to get everyone riled up over an easy target.
And, just because it looks like it may become a topic of conversation, that night action talk doesn't seem suspicious to me. Those are two normal things - call vigi shots so we know where the KP came from and can confirm some people, call if you took a hit but didn't die because of medic/jk, call if you got rbed. I think ALL people who get rbed should call it, because there's no way to know the source for sure, and because I don't see too much danger in letting mafia know a JK exists. Plus there's some upside in us knowing what we've got to work with, and in mafia knowing that they have to deal with a protective role when choosing NKs, may keep them from shooting what would otherwise be their best target.
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I just came home from the office. I had some thoughts while driving home.
@blue action discussion
I am backing off my "night action discussion issue" from sciberbia. The first glance I thought it is weird for someone to post such a thing in the middle of a game, I feel like it is making blue obvious. While thinking about it I realized I failed to see this is exactly the "discuss blue strategy" in the beginning, which, while I think it is abusable by scums, I don't see why it does not benefit town.
My two cents:
@Cops should not check rolf. We have a very strong case against him already. I don't see him getting out of this.
@Medics should save more influential or talk-active players.
@Vigils should just shoot rolf, I don't see him getting out of this, so rather than wasting a lynch I suggest killing him right here right now.
@The case against rolfwaffles55
I don't have time to write a long post, basically sciberbia covered what I wanted to say. The part that gives me a 100% confidence towards rolfwaffles55 being scum #2 is this post.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2012 02:44 roflwaffles55 wrote:
I'm going to post as though all of these people are scum, and the impact they have a chance to make if they are left alive. I think it will give a different way of thinking about it.
Crossfire99
Sciberbia posted a convincing case on him already, and several people have posted tidbits on him, however, nobody has put the focus on him (partially my fault). Therefore, if he is in fact following the thread and trying slide under the radar of suspicion while we focus on alan133, suki, and HeavOnEarth, he is going to get away with it.
His play was very lackluster and never brought fresh reads to the table. Out of everyone, if he is scum, he seems to be one of the most dangerous to let live.
alan133
I've already tunneled the crap out of him, and his defenses have been drastic and overly reactionary. If he were left alive, I honestly think he could do a fair bit of damage as scum, just because he defends very well and seems to have people convinced as to his innocence.
HeavOnEarth
His play is quite suspicious and his accusations and suspicions lackluster at best. He could just as easily be an awful townie as scum.
Overall he's been fairly ineffectual, but if he's hiding behind a mask of confusion and bad reads, he could be an annoyance as scum later on.
suki
It would be self-serving of me to defend suki, as she took my case against alan133 and improved it, I believe in her case. But for the benefit of the doubt, let's assume she's scum. The strength or lack thereof (trapd00r case) of her cases imply that she's trying to lead the vote towards those that aren't scum.
If she is scum, she could be quite dangerous later on.
All of that theorizing on what they "could" do if they were scum being done...
I believe that the most lynchable potential scum right now would be Crossfire99. I understand that there are already votes on HeavOnEarth, but if he really is that incompetent at bringing cases to the table, as a scum, why would he try to post them? He is suspicious to me, but not as suspicious as Crossfire. Unless he responds to the accusations in a convincing and collected manner soon, I strongly believe that he should be lynched.
##vote Crossfire99
This post screams SCUM in my face. The priority in a day 1 lynch is to discuss who is the best candidate to kill, not who is more dangerous if left alive. There is not even one, yes, not even ONE legitimate motivation for a townie to say. No. Instead, it makes a lot of sense in the scum's POV. Scums, if possible, has all the motivation to look for the most potentially dangerous townie to lynch. This is pretty much the nail in the coffin.
"Okay, lets not get away with ourselves. What if rolfwaffles55 is just making a big noob mistake."
No. This is a noob scum mistake. Besides, go through his filter if you must. He show no sigh of being town, constantly accusing people for not standing to the spotlight, but he contradicts his own policy by backing off when he gain no support for his case. He leave a case because no one supported him, not his target give him a satisfying answer.
There, thanks sciberbia for writing. It saves my time from a few hours of constant googling. I think rolfwaffle55's case is rock solid and we should start looking for a 3rd scum now.
I would like to know other people's opinion on my O.Golden's case. I was not suspicious on him until I looked closely on his filter. I would also like to see s0Lstice's 3rd scum.
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alan133,
writing in bits and pieces at work, it's coming. I want to contest one of your suggestions quickly.
Vigi, if you are out there, do NOT use your shot on roflwaffles55. Do one of the following:
1) Save your shot
2) Use it on a person you strongly think is scum #3
I feel that roflwaffles is going to be the day 2 lynch, there is no reason to use a bullet on him. He is a dead man walking.
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I guess we need to see how this night plays out, but I'm not sure why we wouldn't vigi rofls if we reach a consensus on him overnight, solstice.
Going into D2 with a pre-set candidate means we'll basically lynch with the daypost and then turn our attention to the 3rd scum that won't die for...120 hours, unless we get a shot on him/her tonight. I'd much rather we shoot our strongest scum candidate overnight, then go into D2 looking to lynch the remaining member. The vote will be more than a foregone conclusion, and if rofls happens to flip green, we'll know that we need to change our thinking.
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Yea that's a good point. Thanks austin, and sorry alan.
Go on ahead and shoot roflewaffles my dear Vigi, if you are out there
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Yes, I did vote you, but you forget that votes are easily removable, and the fact that you had to write a sensationalist paragraph in red text rather then just poke through the obvious logical holes in my cases convince me that you have something to lose, whether it be scum, blue, or just poor play.
sciberbia quoted this post and pointed out that he doesn't see any logical holes in rofl's play, and that he doesn't think rofl did either.
The part I find strange is not whether or not rofl saw 'logical holes', but how there's an implicit expectation that alan would 'poke through' those 'obvious logical holes'.
As a townie you make your cases with as few logical holes as possible so that you can put the most pressure on your target and force out information. You don't want, and certainly don't expect, those holes to be pointed out. As scum, though, you know that your arguments have holes in them, this kind of wording comes out a lot more naturally.
It's also telling that he straight up admits that his case was full of holes, which serves to ease the pressure off of him for making such a weak case (weak in his mind).
The list of potential mafia is also very strange. It also has the trait of looking like he's contributing without actually contributing anything at all.
Also take a look at this post:
You've defeated yourself in your own argument against me, with the explanation as to why I backed down on alan133. I backed down because I hadn't received any support towards my case. You also defeated yourself by saying that I'm trying to keep myself out of the spotlight, if I wanted that, I wouldn't have been the third person to post a case, let alone one I knew would net me a bunch of flak.
I made the case to put pressure on someone that was lacking any real opinion, whether because he felt that there wasn't enough data to form one, or because he was hiding from the spotlight himself.
The evidence or suspicions that you have brought up can be answered so easily I'm not sure why you didn't come up with them yourself.
I wrote down early on in my personal notes how the 'you defeated yourself' lines seemed like a very scum-like thing to do. Rather than simply defending himself, he uses Milton's words against him, to further discredit Milton. I find that full of scum motivation. After all, if you can use a player's words against them, it feels like your case is a lot stronger.
"I backed down because I hadn't received any support towards my case" is also not very townie. Town motivation is to convince people to agree with your case. If you don't get support but you still feel your points are valid, you continue to press. The fact that rofl is so concerned about having support is very fitting for scum.
All in all, I agree that rofl looks extremely scummy and the #1 candidate for vig shot or Day 2 lynch.
It seems we have reached a strong consensus on who scum #2 is. Before the night is over, I think we should start talking about other candidates for the day 2 lynch to gain a more broad discussion before the night is over. In particular, I would like to ask for opinions on my case against trackd00r.
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Remember to send in all night actions to both hosts!
Especially important today since I will be the one doing the daypost. (And I havent recieved any yet)
MJ will be modkilled/replaced (probably replaced)
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On June 15 2012 08:27 prplhz wrote:
Moldy jeb is being replaced by unforgiven_ve. 12 alive and it takes 6 to lynch.
On June 16 2012 00:53 zelblade wrote:
MJ will be modkilled/replaced (probably replaced)
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lol just ignore that in that case ^^
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Been following the thread from work. It seems we are all in agreement that roflwaffles is quite scummy. Just want to say that I fully approve of vigi shooting him. It's pretty likely he flips red and I'd rather just see the flip and move on rather than having our discussion stagnate for two days. Also, it is a really good shot that vigi is guaranteed to be able to get off without being NK'd.
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Sup guys, just got my role, im player now
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edbwop: *a player..
is kinda hard to get the pulse of the game after 10pages but i will do my best. I a vanilla btw
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also, congratz on getting the GF at D1 ...
Something i think is very basic, i will look at the last persons who voted for Heavonearth, seeing as Bussing at this stage of the game is ridiculous l guess at least tried to divert town's attention to someone else
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In case i die, my 2 "best" reads (so far) are austincc and roflwaffles55.
They were trying to push a lynch on Crossfire, seeing as this wasnt working they decided a Bus from roflwaffles55 and austin will kept his target "just in case".
We still have 6 more hours till night ends right?
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EPT
