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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:00 GMT
#301
Hey guys. I only got back to my computer about half an hour ago. Still catching up on recent posts. I quickly reread through the filters of bot suki and austinmcc, and I find suki more suspicious. But I need to study her filter more before coming to any conclusions. I haven't looked much at golden or trackd00r. If I'm still alive D2, I'll do some serious filter studying of each of these players and post more well-founded reads.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 00:27:52
June 16 2012 00:01 GMT
#302
Day 2

It was a silent night. The wind howled as the elder strode sliently to his bed.

The proceedings of the day had been terrible. News of the puppetmaster  targerting the humble town of liquidpidia first came at the crack of dawn. It was said that a certain few had even been controlled by the puppetmaster. Bought over, some would say. Or perhaps the puppetmaster truly had sorcery at his side?

A meeting had been called at the town hall.  Attended by the 12 wise elders of the village, they carefully planned their moves, each knowing full well the man beside him may have been corrupted. Friendships and even family ties meant nothing under the threat of the puppetmaster.  Agurments broke out, and a fistfight – unheard of among the elders of the village – even sprang up. They day had slowly passed and the elders finally came to a conclusion.

Each day the elders would select one among them to be lynched. It was their way of fighting back against the puppetmaster. 

I opposed it. It was madness. This was definitely what the puppetmaster wanted, watching us tear each other apart, tear each other into scraps, whilst he hid behind, laughing in the shadows. But my agurements were ignored. 

The rest of the common folk were in chaos. Rumors of the puppetmaster had spread throughout tevery man in the village in a matter of hours, and they gathered outside the town hall, waiting to hear the wise words of the elders. What were they expecting? Us to calm them, us to tell them that all was fine? That it was a baseless rumor?

They certainly did not expect it when one of us stepped up, announcing our plan. The townsfolk were terrified. So was I. But one man cannot agure against eleven.

But there was hope. Be it luck, or be it divine intervention. The first lynch, as we decided to coin it, was a resounding success. Perhaps this method wasn’t one forged by the puppetmaster after all. He certainly didn’t expect one of his minions to die so quickly – for sure.

Sighing, the elder went to bed.

Mere seconds later, the door creaked open.

The elder sprang up instantly, heart pumping…. Who could it be? Visitors never came at this hour… Could it be the puppetmaster himself? No. The puppetmaster would never show his face.. not now. Not yet.

A man walked in, face twisted with an evil grin.

“It's you."

“A pity you are awake… no matter. It would be more fun killing you, hearing your screams of pain pierce this silent night. I wonder what the others would think?"

The man drew a dagger from his robe, licking it with his tounge.

“You are a hinderance to the plan of the grand puppetmaster. Tonight you shall die.”

“You have gone mad.”

The man’s grin grew even wider.

“No. I have simply attained… enlightenment. Our master has grand visions for this forsaken joke of a town. Being in the hands of the order of the 12… what a complete waste!”

“I find it exteremly surprising that you, who dedicated your life to protecting the common folk would do this. Is it that satisfying to see your life’s work ruined by your very own hands?”

“Oh I am protecting them still… just in a different way. It was a pleasure talking to you, old friend, but now it is time for you to face our maker.”

And a piercing scream filled the air. Than all was silent.

At least till the arrow flew through the night.

austinmcc the elder (Vanilla Townie) has been murdered in cold blood!
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roflwaffles55 the puppet (Mafia goon) has been shot!
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Day 2 has begun.

Deadline is 48 hours from the time of this post, 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#303
awesome night!! :D :D
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#304
oh man! I finally got killed early. Yessssssssssss

gg all, well played
Fe fi fo fum.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:03 GMT
#305
gg austin
roflwaffles55
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada59 Posts
June 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#306
Glad I died.. I really didn't want to be scum for my first game, I had no idea what to do after day 1 haha.

gg
NfinITE
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
June 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#307
gg austin .

Also...... why austin? will have to analyse further later. Just checked for the night kill (And good job on the description zelblade or whoever wrote it, there was so much suspense, I pressed the arrow key on the scrollbar down line by line in anticipation T_____T ). Now I gotta run~
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#308
gg austin!

vigi should claim the shot no? would give us a confirmed townie
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 16 2012 00:07 GMT
#309
gg roflwaffles!
ATOBTTR
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
June 16 2012 00:07 GMT
#310
gg roflwaffle. I know. Being scum for your first game is REALLY REALLY tough and nerve-wracking. Hope to see you around in future games.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 16 2012 00:07 GMT
#311
also yea flavor text was awesome. kudos to the author of that
ATOBTTR
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:16 GMT
#312
@s0lstice
I don't think it makes too much a difference whether vigi claims or not. Vigi will obviously claim if in danger of being lynched, and we will obviously believe them unless there is a cc (in which case it's gg). So the only way vigi can ever get lynched is if it comes down to 3/4 players left and the scum fakeclaims vigi. So I don't think it can possibly hurt for vigi to wait until 5/6 players left before claiming.

I think there is a very slight benefit to vigi not claiming today. The benefit is that scum has fewer good NK options.

Overall, I think it'd be very slightly beneficial for vigi to wait till 5/6 players left before claiming. But it's not at all a big deal, and if vigi judges that the knowledge that they (the vigi) is confirmed is helpful to town, I have no problem with that.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:24 GMT
#313
gg roflwaffles

still haven't read actually read the daypost lol but I guess I'll go back and read it as it's gotten good reviews

and yea NK of austin is quite odd. I'll have to think about this a bit..
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 00:57 GMT
#314
crap just realized there could potentially be two vigis. So my previous thoughts about cc'ing vigi and scum fakeclaiming vigi don't fully apply. Still, I think it is most likely that there is only 1 vigi, and I don't think it really matters whether or not he claims today.
O.Golden_ne
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia204 Posts
June 16 2012 01:04 GMT
#315
LOL what a crazy night one. reading up on everything now, had a massive night last night lol. I'll respond to Alan113 and everyones issues with me and my careless friendliness.
Like a baneling in a mineral line
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
June 16 2012 02:36 GMT
#316
Danm, nice way to start the game! 2 mafia in one day ;D.
I guess they were afraid of you austin
:)
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 16 2012 02:45 GMT
#317
Kind of WIFOMy, but if I'm right about suki, the NK makes a lot of sense

A fair number of people have accused her, and killing one of them wouldn't make her look any better.

ATOBTTR
alan133
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia159 Posts
June 16 2012 03:38 GMT
#318
The game is proceeding more smoothly than I thought, great night!

I just woke up and have something to attend to, so here is my quick thought.

@austin
I was on the fence on austin, but I will look at the kill pattern later.

@s0Lstice
VIGIL DO NOT CLAIM. There is no advantage for town to get hard confirmed townie right now, only scums benefits from that. I get rather suspicious on s0lstice, but it could be a logic flaw from a townie. I am going to look at his filter later when I am free.

I think I came to a solid analysis on my rolf + suki case, but since s0l brought it up I will do a quick review to see if I missed anything.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 16 2012 04:25 GMT
#319
Yea I don't know about you, but I got a handful of strong town reads.

If vigi claims...

scum viewpoint: a person I already know is town is now confirmed town. if there weren't any other strong town reads, then the claimed vigi instantly becomes an attractive NK target. the thing is...we have a group of strong town reads, so it makes little difference to scum that there is one more. there are already more good targets than they have KP.

town viewpoint: a person who I could not 100% confirm as town, is now confirmed town. I can eliminate the possibility that this person is scum. This leaves fewer candidates for potential scum, thus making it easier to find them.

I really don't see how you think scum benefits from the vigi claim.

The only real debate is when to claim. As we can win the game on day 2 with a correct lynch, I say now is fine. Sciberbia says later in the event that we misslynch today. The claim becomes more powerful with fewer people, though by that point the person may be reading strong town anyway.
ATOBTTR
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
June 16 2012 05:44 GMT
#320
Just a couple of small things before I sleep.

@alan
I really wouldn't be suspicious of s0Lstice just for suggesting that the vigi claim. As he explained, it really isn't that big of a deal.

thoughts on NK (or lack thereof)
+ Show Spoiler +

I've been trying, but I can't think of any likely explanation for the mafia's choice to NK austinmcc. So I'm pretty much just going to disregard the NK.

@s0Lstice
as a point of fact, austinmcc did voice some suspicions against suki yesterday. But I don't think that is really indicative of anything anyway.


check your PM's to see if you were RB'd
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If you were RB'd and you don't think you were a target of the jailkeeper (not a top 2 or 3 NK candidate) you should claim it now. No reason to wait in claiming this. And it tells us that the last mafia is a roleblocker (assuming you're telling the truth)


I'm going to sleep now. I'll be going over filters and doing analysis during the day tomorrow. You can expect some posts from me on lynch candidates within 18 to 24 hours.
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