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Introduction or: Where is Sen?+ Show Spoiler + Hi guys!
To my and hopefully your excitement, i created a list of the best 30 foreign players. As you may know, those lists are rly subjective. I try to look at achievements and latest results, but its unavoidable to get personal opinions into this. There is no such thing as the perfect „ranking“, but i enjoy doing those, most ppl enjoy reading them, but not many ppl put rankings out there. My ranking is purely about foreign players and i exclude asian, non korean players as well – that means you wont find chinese or taiwanese players in my ranking. The simple reason being: i dont have much information about these scenes. I obviously know that Sen, Xigua and also MacSed are great players, but its impossible to compare them to the players in EU and NA. So you could consider it a „Western Foreigner Top 30“.
I put quite some work into it and i hope i get at least some reads, since i think a ranking made by a random person should be posted as a blog and not as a thread in the general section, even though it might end up with no responses at all.
So here is the list for this month! (i try to release one every month)
Old Lists+ Show Spoiler +May 2012![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/1stephanogkaa5.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/2naniwardlps.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/3thorzainn4asf.jpg) ---------------- 1. Stephano --------------------------- 2. NaNiWa --------------------------- 3. ThorZaiN ------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/4hukl7bpy.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/5retb7zvi.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/6saseojl1v.jpg) ------------------ 4. HuK --------------------------------- 5. Ret --------------------------------- 6. SaSe ------------------------ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/7kastsx01.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/8nerchiofibzq.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/9shethiyxxs.jpg) ------------------ 7. Kas -------------------------------- 8. Nerchio ------------------------------- 9. Sheth --------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/10managbbuy.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/11idra1xkux.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/12selectc3je6.jpg) --------------- 10. MaNa ------------------------------- 11. IdrA -------------------------------- 12. SeleCt ------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/13lucifronq7kmi.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/14dimaga4akbq.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/15happywyko9.jpg) -------------- 13. Lucifron ---------------------------- 14. Dimaga ---------------------------- 15. Happy -------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/16demuslimggj4q.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/17morrowxxkl9.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/18bratokz1jyq.jpg) ------------- 16. DeMusliM ------------------------ 17. MorroW ----------------------------- 18. BratOK ------------------ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/19sockeecj4t.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/20grubbyg5j2e.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/21titanfrknw.jpg) --------------- 19. Socke --------------------------- 20. Grubby -------------------------------- 21. TitaN -------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/22hasuobsryksf.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/23whiterazyjtz.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/24feastvoj8h.jpg) -------------- 22. HasuObs ------------------------- 23. WhiteRa ----------------------------- 24. Feast ------------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/25sjowr1jat.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/26todxukwo.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/27nightendb1kx4.jpg) ---------------- 25. SjoW ------------------------------- 26. ToD -------------------------------- 27. NightEnD -------------- ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/28darkforcek5ki7.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/29beastyqtyqjcm.jpg) ___ ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/30slivkoo4jzd.jpg) ------------- 28. DarKFoRcE ----------------------- 29. Beastyqt --------------------------- 30. sLivko ------------------
The following 20: + Show Spoiler +Please leave a comment about how you like my ranking, what u think i could do better and stuff like that. Which players are overrated? which are underrated? Did i leave out players completely? Ty for clicking & reading!
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I think Sen should be somewhere up there. Also Idra is a little too high imo. Otherwise nice list.
Opps, haha my bad, didn't see that intro
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On May 05 2012 04:13 Bouyt wrote: I think Sen should be somewhere up there. Also Idra is a little too high imo. Otherwise nice list.
Skipped over that little part titled "Introduction: Or where is Sen?" didn't we? Overall seems pretty good I would probably have moved a few things around, but I guess everyones list would look a little bit different.
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Select still is korean.
Hmmm, I have a lot of fanboyism for socke in me, otherwise I have to admit that the players above him performend more well.
Why did sheth move up?
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Inb4 why is IdrA so high 11?
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On May 05 2012 04:19 HaRuHi wrote: Select still is korean.
Hmmm, I have a lot of fanboyism for socke in me, otherwise I have to admit that the players above him performend more well.
Why did sheth move up?
I guess because he has done fairly well in recent team leagues, don't think he has done anything at any major LAN though.
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On May 05 2012 04:20 0ne wrote: Inb4 why is IdrA so high 11? Idra's just like impossible to rank. You put him too high and you get the "OMG POPULARITY CONTEST" people and if you put him too low, the Idra fanatics crucify you. Personally I'd put him a bit lower but this is fine I think.
Nice ranking. :D
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Pretty good list, but Idra is WAY too high on this list. Demuslim is also in too high of a spot.
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On May 05 2012 04:20 0ne wrote: Inb4 why is IdrA so high 11?
Well it is a valid question Placing him anywhere in a top30 of foreigners seems to high for him.
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Nightend 27 and no major? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Out of curiousity, how do you motivate the top 3? I don't disagree at all (I might switch ThorZain and Stephano and Naniwa around, but I generally agree - they're the three best), just curious on how you reasoned
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id put IdrA at least a couple spots farther up, he may not have won many games this year but hes shown amazing games agaisnt amazing palyers
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On May 05 2012 04:38 Gamegene wrote: Nightend 27 and no major? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
major didnt do anything in the last 3 months. he dropped out of the "following 20" list recently - talent isnt everything and he didnt even have huge results in the past.
Nightend is probably a bit too low, but its so hard for me to rank 22-30.
idra is still high cause of his huge achievements of the past and the great play that pops out once a month. if he keeps underperforming, he will drop faster and faster, just as he did in the previous 2 rankings!
Also, Sheth, Nerchio and MaNa moved up mainly because Idra, Select and Dimaga dropped down^^
And no, select stays a forgeigner for the reasons i pointed out in list 1 - he lives in the us for a long time and learned sc2 in the us. the small trip to korea and his roots / childhood are not the main factors imo. but ye, you can argue about that day in day out^^
while this is impressive, socke recently lost 1-3 in the eps quaterfinals vs cloud, who himself struggles a lot against protoss and PvT is supposed to be sockes best MU. Furhtermore he underperforms in teamleagues. While the MLG success overshines those things, i still dont see any "worse" players in front of him.
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Yeah, Idra is wayy too high. Considering he has placed last place in (almost) every single event in 2012, he doesn't even deserve top 100. I put almost in brackets, in case I missed out a win somewhere.
Illusion, now QuanticIllusion, should definitely be higher. He tore through the IPL4 open bracket, narrowly losing before reaching the group stage. Other Vile-Quantic members like State have been putting up solid performances in team leagues, they should definitely be ranked higher.
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I too was under the impression that Idra was to high up, but when i looked at the other competition i realized Shit our foreigners fucking suck. I say this with all love for the foreign scene, but in reality the rest of the foreigners below IdrA have been pretty quiet as far as i noticed for the last few months. Yea theres always the one ore two upsets against the Koreans but they realyl are dominating the scene.
Edit: I shouldn't say suck, i should say have been performing not as explosive since the arrival of the koreans.
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Awesome list, Thanks for taking the time to these!
Cheers!
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Pretty good, but everyone from 12 to 30 can take out your no. 11
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