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On April 10 2012 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 04:45 gonzaw wrote:
Jackal my man, what are your thoughts on VE and Toad?
What about the other vets like BH, wbg, etc? I think Visc is town atm. I don't know what to make of Toad yet. I always want to kill BH and WBG so my opinion of them is very biased. I wouldn't cry is somebody shot either of them at night. Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 04:46 Toadesstern wrote:On April 10 2012 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:On April 10 2012 04:21 FourFace wrote:
gonzaw started the lynch Janaan fad and following his lead the most lurky players in the game are lining up behind it. Jitsu, Jackal and Kenpachi ? OMG and who is going to take all the heat if he flips town... gonzaw. Now think about it one more time and tell me you don't think sput is a better candidate, the only candidate I see besides MG who's like this redneck texan type of guy who's all racist and only cares about people not stepping out of line.
Also I want to see what the lurkers who are still voting for me are going to do. I want them to be very careful which candidate they choose because spontaneous late voting to change or support an outcome so close to the deadline, even though you failed to file a case against your candidate this whole day, is about the scummiest thing you can do in this game.
So those are the people that have to watch out not to be spontaneous at this point in time .. as for the rest I think everyone who has been posting seriously can do whatever the fuck they want and it wouldn't even be suspicious to get off the Tunkeg or Janaan train. So you guys just chill out and grab some popcorn while the lurkers make their way on the stage. I believe I was the first person to call Janaan scum. Chill out man. do you honestly believe lynching janaan is a good move? I think it's a better move than lynching Tunk.
Well it for sure is a better move than lynching Tunk but it still feels like randomly shooting into a handful of people who all are somewhat lurkish. I don't think it's a bad move but I don't think it's a good move either. What do you think about gonzaw?
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Risen, there is no time for a lynch on sputnik. We can deal with him on D2 depending on how he keeps acting.
The problem is that we have no time, we have like 4 hours before the day ends, and we need like 7-8 more votes on Tunkeg/Janaan to even get one of those lynched.
If people had tried consolidating votes earlier perhaps this could have been different, but right now the only realistic options are a Tunkeg lynch, a Janaan lynch or NL, nothing else.
If you vote for sputnik/michael/johnny/etc, you are forcing a NL without directly stating you do. And you KNOW those won't get lynched, since even if some people jump on their bandwagon there is no way they will get 16 votes in 4 hours.
So if you KNOW voting any of them will cause a NL, then you might as well post you prefer a NL rather than a Tunkeg/Janaan lynch, because that's exactly what you are doing and you are fooling nobody by saying otherwise.
This goes to Toad, Fourface, etc and all those players putting their votes on sputnik/ghost/etc.
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As a innocent player who's been targeted by others as 'scum' I have some misgivings about the judgement of several of the players in this game. They couldn't be more wrong with their analysis of my role and now several of them are jumping on the latest victim in the thread - Janaan.
Upon overview of his filter I find nothing heinously scummy. Janaan is a guy who's quick to accuse others and is trying to avoid getting killed on day1. I'm not convinced that this behavior indicates scum over town and I won't be voting for him to die tonight.
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##Unvote: Tunkeg
##Vote: Janaan
I could see Tunkeg's actions from a pissed off, given up townie perspective (imagine MrZentor from Sum of All Fears), but Janaan looks pretty irreconcilable. I think this is the best play at the moment.
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On April 10 2012 04:52 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:On April 10 2012 04:45 gonzaw wrote:
Jackal my man, what are your thoughts on VE and Toad?
What about the other vets like BH, wbg, etc? I think Visc is town atm. I don't know what to make of Toad yet. I always want to kill BH and WBG so my opinion of them is very biased. I wouldn't cry is somebody shot either of them at night. On April 10 2012 04:46 Toadesstern wrote:On April 10 2012 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:On April 10 2012 04:21 FourFace wrote:
gonzaw started the lynch Janaan fad and following his lead the most lurky players in the game are lining up behind it. Jitsu, Jackal and Kenpachi ? OMG and who is going to take all the heat if he flips town... gonzaw. Now think about it one more time and tell me you don't think sput is a better candidate, the only candidate I see besides MG who's like this redneck texan type of guy who's all racist and only cares about people not stepping out of line.
Also I want to see what the lurkers who are still voting for me are going to do. I want them to be very careful which candidate they choose because spontaneous late voting to change or support an outcome so close to the deadline, even though you failed to file a case against your candidate this whole day, is about the scummiest thing you can do in this game.
So those are the people that have to watch out not to be spontaneous at this point in time .. as for the rest I think everyone who has been posting seriously can do whatever the fuck they want and it wouldn't even be suspicious to get off the Tunkeg or Janaan train. So you guys just chill out and grab some popcorn while the lurkers make their way on the stage. I believe I was the first person to call Janaan scum. Chill out man. do you honestly believe lynching janaan is a good move? I think it's a better move than lynching Tunk. Well it for sure is a better move than lynching Tunk but it still feels like randomly shooting into a handful of people who all are somewhat lurkish. I don't think it's a bad move but I don't think it's a good move either. What do you think about gonzaw?
I'm going to shoot Gonzaw in the dick just for shits and giggles.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
So, I note S.T is lurking. Could this be in fact the pot calling the kettle black?
Yes, this is the pot calling the kettle black. But the kettle is black as hell so I'm gonna go ahead anyways. Let's see what this man has posted since I prodded him a day and a half ago.
On April 09 2012 01:59 sputnik.theory wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 01:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, S.T is a lurker. Does he have some posts? yeah. but he's posted fuck all shit this entire game. Your post count doesn't determine your lurker status, your content count does. Assuming 4F is wrong, well, he's a moron scum trying to lynch someone who's inadequately defended himself. And assuming his thoughts on lurkers are right, then he's scum since he's trying to push a lurker lynch.
Every other person who posts is so quick to accuse people of frivolous shit. You say that I'm a lurker because my statements were 'fuck all shit'? What sort of deep and compelling analysis are you looking for in the first few pages of a mafia thread? What's important is for everyone to get a few words in and start to develop some actual relationships to analyze over the coming days?
Unacceptable. Utterly unacceptable. Let's check out the rest of S.T's posts.... link
Oh hey there's nothing of value posted. No cases, no scumreads, no valuable information other than some BS about %ages or something. He's making posts, but producing, somehow, even less content then myself. Gentlemen, I present to you a that S.T is a scum lurking in plain sight with worthless posts. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes. He's made several decent-length-ish posts about how he doesn't want to lynch townies. Seriously? That's it? That's preposterously bad. In addition to being unhelpful, it's all based on "well if I post I won't be a lurker" and basically is just unhelpful scum play.
Let's de-scum our town, shall we?
##unvote
##vote: sputnik.theory
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
To those of you who dislike my activity level this day: sucks to be you.
On April 10 2012 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 04:45 gonzaw wrote:
Jackal my man, what are your thoughts on VE and Toad?
What about the other vets like BH, wbg, etc? I think Visc is town atm. I don't know what to make of Toad yet. I always want to kill BH and WBG so my opinion of them is very biased. I wouldn't cry is somebody shot either of them at night.
A) yay! I'm a vet!
B) Screw you too buddy
On April 10 2012 04:09 Tunkeg wrote:I find it strange that he leans on 4F and ST. I think this kind of play is anti-town as it may trick the newguys into mistakes that are wrongfully interpid as scumtells. Yeah, get them to talk, but try a more diplomatic way first. Not pin them to the wall. The veterans should be pin to the wall, thats the only way to get them to speak up, but not the new ones, they should be cuddled 
I'll pin whoever I want to the wall. Going easy on people with fewer games won't help them.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Reviewing Janaan's filter presently.
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He knew he was done for. He had played a game of high risk, but with the greatest reward - to save the queen. The anti-monachist had made a fool out of him though. And he had put to much faith in the rest of the nobels. He knew that he would be the one executed next, so he had excused himself and walked away from the party. He had asked lady Tourment for a parchement and some ink, so he could type out his last will:
"Your highness,
lords and ladies,
I am Roland Rindoray, an ordinary lord. I am a man of no extraordinary power, but I, as the rest of you ordinary lords and ladies, play the most important role in this masquerade. Our voice is the only thing that can save our beloved queen, and abolish the anarchist once and for all. Now, use your voice and use your brains. The anarchist got me, don't let them get our Queen.
Also, my land and titles Nolan Rindoray the first of his name (also known as SC2).
PS: I am actually a lady in disguise. It is me Lady Tabitha."
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 10 2012 04:54 sputnik.theory wrote:
As a innocent player who's been targeted by others as 'scum' I have some misgivings about the judgement of several of the players in this game. They couldn't be more wrong with their analysis of my role and now several of them are jumping on the latest victim in the thread - Janaan.
Upon overview of his filter I find nothing heinously scummy. Janaan is a guy who's quick to accuse others and is trying to avoid getting killed on day1. I'm not convinced that this behavior indicates scum over town and I won't be voting for him to die tonight.
Oh this came up as I posted my case.
HEY S.T. do something useful. Make a post about ANYTHING with a scumread. ANYTHING. AT ALL. just defending your scumbuddy doesn't count as contributing.
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How's your colon looking Tunk?
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On April 10 2012 04:58 Tunkeg wrote:
I am Roland Rindoray, an ordinary lord. I am a man of no extraordinary power,
Are you claiming vanilla town? Why would you breadcrumb a VT claim? lol
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I have viewed this turn from a harm-management perspective from the start of the game. There isn't enough useful information to target scum in the game yet. No matter how much you wish there was.
I can accept the criticism of not being helpful (yet!) but your jump from bad player to scum player baffles me. There is no substance to your claims. I'm not scum because I want to avoid lynching townies and don't exaggerate the importance of trivial BS.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 10 2012 05:04 sputnik.theory wrote:
I have viewed this turn from a harm-management perspective from the start of the game. There isn't enough useful information to target scum in the game yet. No matter how much you wish there was.
I can accept the criticism of not being helpful (yet!) but your jump from bad player to scum player baffles me. There is no substance to your claims. I'm not scum because I want to avoid lynching townies and don't exaggerate the importance of trivial BS.
You're scum because you haven't made or pushed a single scumread. You're scum because your entire filter consists of waffling and making no statements. You're scum because you urge caution but offer no advice.
You're scum because you're actively hurting town in a deceitful way.
And as scum, you shall hang.
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I may hang but you'll still be wrong.
From my perspective you're a idiot for demanding that I make a scumread. To me you're a player making a erroneous scumread. That is exactly what I want I've stated that I want to avoid on this day. Back up off me.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On April 10 2012 05:09 sputnik.theory wrote:
I may hang but you'll still be wrong.
From my perspective you're a idiot for demanding that I make a scumread. To me you're a player making a erroneous scumread. That is exactly what I want I've stated that I want to avoid on this day. Back up off me.
So you're telling me that my demand that you make a SINGLE scumread is idiotic?
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iL1VS.png)
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I'm telling you it's idiotic in light of your failure to produce a credible scumread.
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Or are you asking me to just accuse another innocent player?
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On April 10 2012 05:04 sputnik.theory wrote:
I have viewed this turn from a harm-management perspective from the start of the game. There isn't enough useful information to target scum in the game yet. No matter how much you wish there was.
I can accept the criticism of not being helpful (yet!) but your jump from bad player to scum player baffles me. There is no substance to your claims. I'm not scum because I want to avoid lynching townies and don't exaggerate the importance of trivial BS.
Okay that's bullshit.
I wouldn't mind you dying now. If you don't think Janaan is a good lynch candidate (for some reason you didn't explicitely explain) then say who you would want lynched and why; don't stall.
Even michael, the guy that didn't "believe" in D1 scum lynches voted for someone to lynch; so you have no excuses.
@BH: Even though he's scummy, sputnik won't be lynched today, there is not enough time and it will be utter chaos if we even try to switch the wagon to him. A vig could shoot him, or we can lynch him on D2, we will have plenty of time (more so if Janaan flips scum). So if you think Janaan is scum please vote him.
@Tunkeg: For christ sake why the fuck are you claiming? YOU ARE NOT GETTING LYNCHED TODAY. If you vote Janaan and you start contributing more like you did little time ago you won't, so I don't get why you are still acting all defeated.
You need like 8-9 more votes on you to get lynched, it's not the end of the world.
At worst we will NL, but you won't get lynched today.
PEOPLE:
I'm going to uni right now and I'll be back some hours after the deadline. Just don't let ANYONE control the lynch once I'm gone; for instance VE trying to lynch Tunkeg, or people having "second thoughts" and forcing a NL, etc.
Good luck people.
Hey Blazinghand, I haven't seen that video of you eating your hat yet >_>
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He's asking you to form an opinion, lol. You're not doing anything for town. You're saying WELL ITS MOST LIKELY TO HIT TOWN SO WHAT'S THE POINT. There's no way to win without hunting for scum, so shape it up.
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