EPTOn April 01 2012 08:46 Jayjay54 wrote:
also (I think) GLaDOS needs to be voted in the separate thread...
also (I think) GLaDOS needs to be voted in the separate thread...
IIRC Kenpachi said it had to be done in this thread.
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Nisani201
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IIRC Kenpachi said it had to be done in this thread. | ||
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Jayjay54
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Dirk Hardpec 03-29-2012 10:24 AM ET (US) i have such a huge problem with what's going on right now. I think nisani201 is scum, look again at his vote back on day 2. Now read foolishness's posts. There really isn't much to tell me foolishness is town, and doesn't it sound like a huge risk to anyone else but me to go with the limerick speaking foolishness over a lot of more townie looking people like jay. Read both their filters. I think we need to hang nisani, rather than blubb.. or me. Dirk Hardpec 03-23-2012 06:51 AM ET (US) Nisani's switch to bluelightz was basically him claiming scum dunno if that means that we should trust nisani, but it is certainly possible... looking at this, maybe foolishness said the truth ( he should add a limerick why a things nisa is scum though), I am in favor of lynching mav. Mem is in the QT which at this stage of the game is prolly vote fishing from dirk...and phagga posted some reasonable stuff... but, again, this will be tough. | ||
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Nisani201
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Jayjay54
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Jayjay54
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On April 01 2012 09:01 Nisani201 wrote: Everything scum says and does is WIFOM. The fact that it's Palmar adds even more factors because he calls me scum every game. I defended you, you realize that? The difference is that he used his few posts to push you. Looking at how small the scum team might be, I don't think bussing you without reason or anything (march 23th) is a possibility, which sheds non-scum light on you. You may still be cell if that calms you in any way :D | ||
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Nisani201
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
As you guys know, I'm 5th party Chezinu, which Midnight and Gonzaw were both a part of.. who flipped pro-town... We had our QT which is pretty much useless now, but I was given the sentry gun- which I shot at scum with- however it doubled up and wasn't used (confirmed by Midnight) I also had the Factual core, which I traded to mementoss- who can confirm that as well... I also am a lazy cop.. who's job is pretty much meaningless, but I can tell the alignment of anyone we've lynched.. so far they have all lined up accurately, so I haven't had much use of it so far.... but if we do lynch anyone and their alignment doesn't add up (I image due to some kind of block), I would be able to reveal that information for you guys... As for who I think could be scum!!! The pickings are getting slim... JayJay- Probably not scum, has been pretty active and has been seeking out the right people on a consistent basis. Kenpachi- 100% town based off the color radiator. Mementoss- probably town since he is the computer terminal person.. that seems like a difficult role to make up- and his actions correlate well with what the results that we have seen. Nisani- Targeted by Dirk, who is confirmed scum, HOWEVER, that most recent exchange where he felt the need to defend himself awfully quickly could be an indicator of some sort of guilt... maybe sleeper cell? Foolishness- Sent to android hell and back... Seems to be a town.. definitely not scum.. but the third party possibility makes this tough... Phagga- No good read on this guy.. makes list.. bandwagons.... not a whole lot of 'pro-town' going on there... If it were up to me to vote right this second.. I'd go with Phagga. | ||
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Maverick32x
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Kenpachi
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Maverick32x
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May as well see what this does.. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
GLaDOS has been Lynched! So, you finally killed me. Maybe if you weren't so fat you could have done it sooner. Okay, look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster. Look at me still talking when there's Science to do. When I look out there, it makes me GLaD I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. Test Subject Lyncher: Moderators (Kenpachi) has been escorted to the party by the Party Escort Bot. + Show Spoiler + Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Lyncher! the Dimensional rift has opened your mind’s eye, allowing you to look beyond the facade that is this realm and see those pulling the strings: the Moderators. Angered that your life serves only as a meaningless and cruel game for the Users, you have decided to take revenge on those that created you. However, you feel you owe it to the other players to still use flavor. Therefore,your alternate win condition is to get a majority of the players in the game to type in the thread ##Vote: GLADOS. If this happens you win and will be removed from the game. Be warned, the With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch. | ||
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Nisani201
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Therefore we are left with phagga and maverick. I'm going to sleep. If no one makes a significant case against either of them by morning, I'll look into them myself. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
Current state is probably: 3-2-1 or 2-2-1-1. I think 3-2-1 is likely. Although, I am running out of suspects tbh, it may be 4-1-1 or 4-2 even, which depents who died night one. We're dealing with up to 3anti town player right now. 2 if we're lucky, 1 if we're reallllly lucky. Also note that we had a busdriver involved which might explain the prevented medic action of mementoss. If it's not 4-1-1 (or better), we're at lylo. Especially the cell member might be hard to find. Some initial thoughts on the players BEFORE I skim through the thread. Nisani: Not scum imo. His role would be fitting into a cell as well, however. His wrong scatter shot bothers me. Foolishness: I never really thought of Foolishness as town this game. His few poems with actual content were not really well-reasoned. Now I know dirk was scum. Which makes me think foolishness is not scum since bussing that early doesn't make sense to me considering this is a multi fraction game. Dunno about the scatter shot use tbh. Also don't know about his post restriction being fake or how I should think about it flavour wise... Mementoss: Role != alignment, we know that. His role claim is highly believable. And a town tell, looking that the role requires coroperation. Based on what I remember, I am leaning town. Phagga: Made some good posts, leaning town. Not sure though. Mav: His role claim seems to match Grey's flavour of VT, however he acts seriously about it. Still my number one candidate. Final comments: It may be tempting to just take the easy lynch, but I am afraid that this won't be enough to seal the deal... On the other hand, I think we should look for scum and not cell to begin with. We are not even sure if cells or thirds are alive. So, I tend to think the lynch should hit Phagga or Mav. Will now look through the filters and highlight stuff which stuck out. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
Folishness: There is not much of a filter from him, so it's fairly easy to go through. He has attacked only people that flipped town or mafia. He attacked Dirk several times, and also went after paperscraps. I conclude that he is not mafia. On March 26 2012 04:13 Foolishness wrote: It is clear that we should not rest until Paperscraps has been shot. But still, kitaman as well should be thrown to hell and Maverick may also be worth a kill. However, he soft defended Wiggles and davidblubb, which are the only people he talked positively about unasked. On March 25 2012 02:47 Foolishness wrote: I read the filters of kita and mr. wiggles, and it's kita's posts that make me jiggle. For sure we can kill kita; get him out of this arena! Wiggles we can leave alive, he makes me giggle. On March 30 2012 03:11 Foolishness wrote: Dirk is not of the town, I might add He needs to be killed, he is quite bad. He's kinda a creeper so he might be a sleeper. blubb is for sure town, Kenpachi is too mad. He might very well be the remaining sleeper cell agent, and perhaps the last of the 4 great beings? could explain why he came back from the dead. Maverick: He seems more clueless than scum to me, but that could just be his scum playstile. However, seeing as Midnight flipped town and claimed to be in the same 5th party as Maverick, I'd rather refrain from lynching him. Mementoss: Every player with a powerfull role died after he claimed (Hassybaby, Kitaman, Grackaroni to some extent). Why is mementoss still alive? He is the towns medic currently, and could perhaps turn vigilante with the right core. Should he not be a high priority? He protected Dirk (who was scum) and claims to have protected Grackaroni, who died nevertheless. He barely posted any reads until very late into the game. He also seems like a good lynch target. Nisani: He is playing along nicely so far. I will have to through his filter again, but I lean town on him currently. JJ: Extremely active, looks very townish so far. However, I will also go through his filter again, because I don't trust anyone so far. I'm running out of time, so I will provide my reads on Nisani and JJ later (in the next 24 hours). It's weekend, and as always my activity is low. I hope to provide more information soon. | ||
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Jayjay54
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Foolishness: 93% not scum, actually good chance of being cell, because he softdefended both wiggles and david (as I pointed out earlier and phagga rightfully mentions again!). I want to focus on hunting scum and not cell today, because they have a better chance of outnumbering town considering that cell has only one left. Mav: While I mentioned before that I want to lynch him, I am not so sure anymore. Doesn't really try to derail the thread and his posting seems genuine. Medium speed on the lightz vote. He's also a newer player. Phagga: He comes to many right conclusions and isn't afraid to post whatsoever. One of the quickest to jump on the lightz train. As of now, he is actually my strongest townread. Question to you: Are you a newer player or a Vet? Nisani: Why on earth is he still alive? I mean he's PR and wasn't killed again, instead two random decent townies were killed. I can understand why I am not targeted, but him? Why? Pretty much last on the lightz lynch. then again his alternative was dirk (scum too) and dirk wanted his death. Fails to invent and hassyby might have been planned, then again, gives me the strings and nails the colour radiator which got us far. I am 100% unsure what to think of him. Mementoss: Messed up medic actions including protecting scum, votes Kenpachi (town) until very late on the lightz lynch. His medic action on grack on grack might have been thwarted by busdriving. Was invited to the QT when dirk thought he'd die soon which might be a tell, too. Also this post stuck out: On March 30 2012 08:53 Mementoss wrote: Alright im going to let ya know what I think about the 1/1/1 Kenpachi: Doesn't post often. When he does post it is usually 1 liners. A good portion of those posts are trying to get the town to vote Glados, at this point I don't even know if it's part of his role, or if he's trying to derail the town. Or just plain trolling. Nothing much else to say here, other than if he is town, he is certainly not helpful. Shitty town, or sleeper cell BlubbDavid: Out of the 4 people kita checked. Blubb stated wiggles was clearly the most town, when his play never reflected this. Then he flips cell leader. Then afterwards before Kita died, wanted to use the scatter gun against him, even though it seemed clear he most likely was town aligned, after killing the Mafia GF and also was not lying about the colour radiator. Seems scummy to me, the reasoning didn't make sense and he didn't explain it. His whole filter seems to be him jumping back and forth on people who we should kill. Note there is never a clear target. This seems scummy to me. Scum or cell (trying to defend sleeper cell leader) DirkHardpec Lurks harder than even kenpachi. Pushing for a Nisani lynch. Is currently on fire. Has access to the telepathic QT, which doens't seem like scum ability or flavour per say. Him being on fire could mean he could die tonight. But we cannot know for sure. So if we are not lynching him for this reason alone I think that is a mistake. Is a bit active in the tele QT, but not much. Seems uninterested. Cell or bad town Out of those three I think the blubbdavid lynch is the safest as I think he is either cell or scum for sure. I would think dirk is most likely cell, and kenpachi is most likely just playing a bad town game. However I would like to mention one more case, as we don't have to lynch these people at all. Because foolishness has the scatter shot, I think this would be a perfect spot for him to shoot, as it doesn't work unless he gets 2 oppositely aligned players. Which is guarenteed shooting into this three pack. Nisani Ghost earlier brought up an issue, him giving the colour radiator to hassy, coulda been working with scum, letting paperscraps shoot him and aquiring the colour radiator, thus wasting it. Luckily kita go the kill and used the colour radiator accurately. Now he has invented something the town reccomended but in the wrong way. It will either be a good item, or useless. Its a low risk, item, but has a low chance of being good for the town. (if it duds out) Also had a lot of scum vibes coming from him before he even claimed inventor. I also think town is in a good spot right now it seems, and the only thing that can bring it back for scum, is a poorly designed invention in the wrong hands. Leaning scum inventor to me, that just got caught in the act when kita acquired the colour radiator meant for paperscraps. I would like a Nisani lynch, and allow foolishness to use his item with no chance of it not working on the 1/1/1. ##Vote: Nisani Also I have travelling to do tommorrow, so I wont be around all day. Will try to drop in and will switch my vote if its needed for a majority. It is like saying: yeah they are all looking bad, but I still want to kill Nisani. So this is where we're at: People I'd rather not lynch (because they are not scum): JJ, Phagga, Foolishness People I have no clue whatsoever: Nisani People I'd vote (scum is among them): Mav and Mementoss I'll vote Mementoss for now and thereby retreat my statement that he posts townish. Mav is still not looking good, but I'd prefer Mementoss. Open for discussion though...Hope somebody posts here at some point, until then: ##Vote: Mementoss | ||
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Maverick32x
United States311 Posts
But mementoss... I gave you the factual core... What does it do? I disagree with the mementoss Lynch... I think we should focus on either nisani or phagga... I'll have a chance to flip through filters when I get home.. but I feel like the Lynch on mementoss is making a decision based off a lot of stretches of logic... That post you made JJ with the quote from mementoss highlights a lot of scum.. sure he wants the vote on nisani .. but he seems to be on board with his reads... Also super disappointed with kenpachi... Confirmed town sacs himself....;; | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On April 01 2012 22:41 Jayjay54 wrote: Phagga: He comes to many right conclusions and isn't afraid to post whatsoever. One of the quickest to jump on the lightz train. As of now, he is actually my strongest townread. Question to you: Are you a newer player or a Vet? I never played Mafia in any way before TL Mafia, and here I played 3 games so far: Werewolves 2, Newbie Mini Mafia IV, Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VIII (also a Newbie game). I was Vanilla Town in the latter two and a Journalist in the first one. I made it far in every game, two times into the endgame, and was both times responsible for town to lose the endgame....  | ||
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Jayjay54
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On April 02 2012 00:43 Maverick32x wrote: I'm in class till 4est... But mementoss... I gave you the factual core... What does it do? I disagree with the mementoss Lynch... I think we should focus on either nisani or phagga... I'll have a chance to flip through filters when I get home.. but I feel like the Lynch on mementoss is making a decision based off a lot of stretches of logic... That post you made JJ with the quote from mementoss highlights a lot of scum.. sure he wants the vote on nisani .. but he seems to be on board with his reads... Also super disappointed with kenpachi... Confirmed town sacs himself....;; I point this post out among other things. It's not the post alone. Meanwhile you cease to use any logic whatsoever. You want to focus on Phagga or Nisani?? On April 01 2012 11:56 Maverick32x wrote: Nisani- Targeted by Dirk, who is confirmed scum, HOWEVER, that most recent exchange where he felt the need to defend himself awfully quickly could be an indicator of some sort of guilt... maybe sleeper cell? This post is your recent one on Nisani. You state he is "maybe sleeper cell?", this estimation makes a lynch unjustified. We have to find scum and not cell or we loose. And Phagga? Is there even a case on him? He votes bluelightz even before I did. There was no need at that point. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120¤tpage=68#1348 this post at this time is fairly decent. I don't think he is scum,although I can't be 100% sure. You're reasoning on mementoss being town is completely flawed: On April 01 2012 11:56 Maverick32x wrote: Mementoss- probably town since he is the computer terminal person.. that seems like a difficult role to make up- and his actions correlate well with what the results that we have seen. Even if he tells the truth here, how does this say anything about his alignment? He protects scum actively blocking a town vig without knowing anything other's didn't. As far as I can see the role could very well be scum and the flavour fits as well. If you say phagga did nothing pro town, what did Mementoss do? | ||
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phagga
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Also, after reading one of JJs post I realized that what I wrote about Mementoss (power role still being alive) also goes for Nisani. However, as I wrote above, I'd rather go for the sleeper cell first to avoid having to deal with 2 night kills again. I therefore vote for Foolishness for now. ##Vote: Foolishness | ||
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