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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
On March 25 2012 13:12 theBALLS wrote: JP is such an exciting caster, I can't blame him if he feels tired with all that passion he injects into his work. It is a written comment.......but somehow i can hear the sarcasm.......... | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1452 Posts
The reason why these sub-par casters will re-main in their debatable "earned" positions, is because, frankly, we don't seem to have a large supply of anyone who isn't a socially awkward mess, who can coherently form and communicate ideas fluently, who also has great game knowledge step into the spotlight. I'm pretty sure JP and company aren't too upset about this. The most popular casters are always ones that people can relate with, or at least ones who you can listen to just enough where you don't have to mute your stream because their banter is so much more (negatively) distracting than the game. Even if these kind of people don't know very much about their game, as long as they can get a few things right and keep you entertained during downtime, people don't care. Hotbid's ESPORTS poll epitomizes, self evidently, the sad truth of what mainstream cares about most. If you can find a person like Day9 who can do all these things well, then, your probably going to be really venerated like Day9. However, I think most people would really prioritize "Tolerable" casters over "Amazing" casters where we stand right now. I am in the same boat as many, I could really do less without Robs awkwardness, multiplied by JP's irritated/humoring/akward dispositions to said awkwardnesses, during my games. Sadly, who's going to do it? Also, small rant - People should really just stfu about casting being so hard. If you've ever worked as a telemarketer, debt collector, or anything that involved you talking all fucking day, often times for 12 hours straight, talking personally to people that go from really disliking you to outright wanting you dead, you would understand that talking all day about selling a loveable game you like is a fuck of a lot better. I've done both, and I would do it in a heartbeat, if I didn't have other aspirations that seemed more likely to pan out. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Also this is just a really terrible thread full of hatred. Even for people who love their work there will be days where they hate it. Maybe this is just one of these days for JP. It sucks he lost his composure for a bit but all this shit talking is ridiculous. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On March 25 2012 15:29 TheToast wrote: JP smurf account?  I want to put a little perspective here, this is something I'm seriously interested in knowing: Poll: Which caster would you rather see replaced at MLG? JP McDaniel (44) Rob Simpson (24) 68 total votes Your vote: Which caster would you rather see replaced at MLG? JP and Rob are both nice guys, but MLG may need to make some changes... Good to see unbiased polls. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On a more serious note, it does seem like more casters and non-players in general in the industry (words can't describe how much I hate calling it an "industry") that have been around for a while are suffering from the same "syndrome". You can have any dream job you can imagine and after a year or two many things that used to be exciting and you felt like you could do it day-and-night for free will feel like chores you have to drone through in order to get the paycheck. It's the most normal thing in the world and I can't think of many people who are immune to it. Watch Sean's dailies from BW or even SC2 beta, and watch his dailies today. It's a universe of difference in terms approach, commitment, treatment of the audience etc. Now it seems like a half-scripted Starcraft-themed comedy show that contains more catchphrases than it does actual content. Likewise for State of the Game, and everything else really. Honestly, there's a lot of work in "esports" that I feel should be done by volunteers and is in fact usually much better done by volunteers than by paid personnel, especially those employed for a long time. Things like casting, journalism, artwork/graphics, and many others come to mind. I know this is an unpopular view because of the "growth of esports as an industry", as well as people wanting to make money on something they started doing as a hobby, but it is what it is. Some things are just done better as a hobby - maybe not in terms of productivity and superficial production quality, but definitely in terms of content quality. | ||
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MrShankly
United Kingdom371 Posts
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Chaves
Brazil315 Posts
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Kaelaris
United Kingdom788 Posts
I'm of the opinion that anyone who claims this is difficult/taxing is being a sissy :D but ofc JP in this situation might have other things to do during the event other than casting since he's an MLG employee? i'm not sure. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
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Khenra
Netherlands885 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On March 25 2012 20:08 mouzKaelaris wrote: I have no clue why people are saying stuff like "You have no clue how exhausting it is to cast all day".. no? especially when there's actually so many casters at this event as well, plenty of rest-time - Co-casting is far from straining in any capacity what-so-ever. Solo-casting can be tiring sure, but seriously co-casting is extremely easy since you actually get chance for breaks and the ability to breathe. I'm of the opinion that anyone who claims this is difficult/taxing is being a sissy :D but ofc JP in this situation might have other things to do during the event other than casting since he's an MLG employee? i'm not sure. As I did cast myself 6-10 hours some tournaments, obviously with a co-caster, sometimes solo I know its "exhausting" or at least tiring to cast, but even so, everyone should know. There is no reason for a professional to go ahead and whine about how tiring it is. I can completely understand all the complaints about JP =.=! On March 25 2012 21:20 deathly rat wrote: IMO if you are going to call someone out like that you better have a really good reason,and you don't Mr OP. We don't know what JP does all day and how long a day he has had. In general ppl in E-Sports like casters to be themselves and not have to put on a front all the time, so if JP wants to say he is tired then he can do that. ppl that just sit on the side complaining about others who are being proactive and putting themselves out there, really are pathetic. His casting isn't good and his whining about how tiring it is, is pathetic. Isn't that good enough of a reason for you? He gets paid to do that and MLG wants to be professional. If JP casts well and after x-hours gets a bit worse or less passionate everyone will notice he's probably tired, but to be completely honest, whining on stream is unacceptable. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On March 25 2012 15:29 TheToast wrote: JP smurf account? I want to put a little perspective here, this is something I'm seriously interested in knowing: JP and Rob are both nice guys, but MLG may need to make some changes... this is silly. of all the things MLG needs to work on, their caster lineup is probably the only thing they DONT need to improve. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On March 25 2012 23:00 Angel_ wrote: this is silly. of all the things MLG needs to work on, their caster lineup is probably the only thing they DONT need to improve. tbh, i only enjoy Day9/DJWheat. Tastosis doesnt feel as exciting as they were before, and i simply dont like tasteless too much because he isnt that good of a caster imo. Im ok with both, Rob Simpson and JP, but they dont go well together. None of them is analytic enough. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6590 Posts
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
I think another part of the problem is the fact that they are pairing Rob and JP. JP doesn't really sound half as bad when he's with someone like Day9, or a more "lead" caster. But Rob's casting is comparable to JP's, and (even though I like Rob and think he's got a great voice and good articulation) those two together just sounds bad. There's no analysis, or attempts at it are bad. It's hard to appreciate higher level play, because they often make it seem more simple than it is. Split them up, please! As far as JP complaining, I didn't hear it, but there's no place for that. You're getting paid to do a job, and you're representing MLG. Make a big attempt to sound excited and optimistic, because the people watching take what you say in. Yeah, you're probably exhausted, haven't slept much, and want it to be over, but don't let us know that. You got where you are by hard work- when you're tired, work that much harder and finish the day. | ||
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UmbraaeternuS
Chile476 Posts
Being a caster myself I understand how tired can you be at the end of the day. I understand how frustrating can it be when the last match of the day is extending and you just want to go to bed. But there are things that can be said and others that you should keep to yourself and try to be professional. I believe this was one of them. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 25 2012 15:29 TheToast wrote: Poll: Which caster would you rather see replaced at MLG? JP McDaniel (44) Rob Simpson (24) 68 total votes Your vote: Which caster would you rather see replaced at MLG? I'm actually really surprised by this. I guess most people just don't like the more dry/serious style of JP? For me knowledge of the scene and the game is far more important than style, and Rob really doesn't have any of those. Oh well. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On March 25 2012 12:09 Diamond wrote: Shouldn't complain on air but you have no idea how hard it is to cast that much in one day. Also the later it goes the less your mind is working 100% right, at a certain point you tend to hit auto-pilot. It's a pretty forgivable mistake. I've done 8+ hour stints of constant casting. Complaining about it during the cast is idiotic. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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