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On March 19 2012 09:44 DLChucklesSP wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:33 DLChucklesSP wrote: This is so sad, Korea must be sucha a lonely place, it's like a science-fiction dystopia, Brave New World comes to mind. There are other elements in Korean life that more than make up for it. I just decided to focus on the most superficial element in its society. I am sure there are, the historical perspective you gave at the beginning of the OP puts it in context, I think korea will eventually outgrow the obsession with appearance. On a different note, looking at the head to body ratio example pictures, I had this realisation that Koreans got al these (perhaps misguided) appearance cues from japanese animes? They somehow thought that that is what people are supposed to look like (BTW I am equally puzzled by some aspects of japanese culture)? Actually this is where we got it lol
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While it's true that we were heavily influenced by Japanese fashion in the early 2000's, we've started to move away from it a while ago.
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As I read through this blog, I got an increasing sense of crushing sadness. Homogeneity is no fun.
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Is there a look that's actually called the dandy or is the name something you made up? What defines something that is dandy?
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I cant help but be disgusted. An enlightening thread
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On March 19 2012 09:54 ZerONine09 wrote: Is there a look that's actually called the dandy or is the name something you made up? What defines something that is dandy? It's been around since the 18th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandy
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United States1719 Posts
On March 19 2012 09:54 ZerONine09 wrote: Is there a look that's actually called the dandy or is the name something you made up? What defines something that is dandy? It's an actual name of a look and haircut, as in you can walk into a hair salon and say 'I want a dandy cut' and they will pull out a slew of pictures of celebrities from which you can choose from
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Wow. I guess I would come off like a total hobo in Korea. Nothing bores me more than appearance. Fun read, though!
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Very interesting thread, I find nothing wrong with this, just another way of living I'd say, some people find themselves disgusted. But hey, there's no objective way to live life, and certainly there isn't any perfect outlook on society or other people, so shut up. And respect other peoples hatred/disdain towards other people :D
It's just an awful shame I wouldn't fit the high end of this aesthetic caste at all, I'm merely 5'11, with a rather inferior ratio, such a pity, but then again, if everyone was aesthetic, I'd say the proposed beauty would lose it's quality.
Very informative, thanks
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The one question I have is how do Korean Women react to foreigners with beards, or beards specifically?
intrigued
EDIT- Answered previously
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I am glad that I actually grew up in the US before moving back to Korea just because it allowed me to see different worlds and open my mind. If I grew up in Korea I actually do see myself just conforming to what everyone else was doing without really ever reflecting on my own actions. But I also am glad that I also didn't live all my life in the US because I would have been just as bad because I would been a Korean who knew pretty much no Korean or really anything else about the country besides from the little exposure I got from dramas and movies. I am rather glad that you made this blog as honest as you can on what is happening but also being impartial in its delivery. I know the people who read this will be quick to judge about everything but its something that you really have to become a part to really see. I don't think op wrote this for anyone to make anti-Korean claims but to better understand the situation more. I lived in Korea for 5 years and I still don't think I really understand it still just cause I just wasn't raised here my whole life. I don't know how it feels to be that kid who everyone picks on or that girl who no guy even looks at in Korea even though I've seen people who were or knew them personally. And I think I understand even less what it is to be that girl who actually turned her life around with plastic surgery.
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i may or may not quote you on this, lol. got an essay about this in a month or 2.
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Thanks for the insightful blog, I did not know half of these facts
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Oh damn. I'm pretty short and I have that wolf cut you mentioned. No cute Korean babes for me I suppose. The prejudices seem pretty fierce, I feel sorry for those who actually live there but are too "ugly" to fit in.
Great blog,well written and really informative.
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On March 19 2012 09:57 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:54 ZerONine09 wrote: Is there a look that's actually called the dandy or is the name something you made up? What defines something that is dandy? It's an actual name of a look and haircut, as in you can walk into a hair salon and say 'I want a dandy cut' and they will pull out a slew of pictures of celebrities from which you can choose from Ah ok thanks for the clear up. Quite dandy indeed.
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if you're fat and you're in korea get ready for a lot of taunting.
one of my heavier female friends was called "flower pig" all the time ;_;
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I was ostracized in American culture, I can't imagine what it would be like to have grown up there lol
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On March 19 2012 06:32 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 06:30 Lexpar wrote:On March 19 2012 06:29 rotinegg wrote:On March 19 2012 06:26 ymir233 wrote: But on the other hand, the good thing is if you act enough of a 'foreigner' (by that I mean living outside of Korea long enough) and show off enough of an aura when you come back, people won't care what the fuck you do as long as you're not an axe murderer. Most likely either you can laugh at peoples' shirts for having unintelligible English phrases or they'll be impressed enough by your foreign-ness to hire you as an Engrish tutor. Purposely acting like a 'foreigner' is a surefire way to get your ass beat due to the predominant anti-American sentiments Really? I have this fantasy that Korean girls would flock to my milky white skin and blue eyes. Anti American?? How do I say "No no, I'm Canadian" in korean? I should have said a KOREAN acting like a foreigner.. :p my bad lol yea Korean girls do have a fantasy for milky white skin and blue eyes. The anti-American bit is only for cultural and political reasons, not the actual individual's heritage, so a commoner wouldn't give a shit about whether you're American or Canadian while they would beat up their friend if he/she started speaking Korean with an English accent on purpose
That 's strange. That almost sounds like how Japanese woman are and how materialistic their culture is as well.
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This type of superficiality runs through China and Japan as well.
Among some of the more amusing/intruging side-effects of having a culture like this are:
1. The ladies in service industries are usually more attractive than their western counterparts. Take airline stewardesses, for example. Airlines in Korea and China, and I think Japan, still discriminate based on attractiveness. So, the average flight attendant on Korea Air is probably younger, slimmer, and prettier than someone from British Airways or United Airlines.
2. I can't comment on Korea or Japan, but there are a lot of questionably effective surgical procedures in China. For example, my mother is a middle-aged woman with flabby arms. In particular, there are pockets of fat just below her armpits. During an extended trip to China, she underwent surgery to remove these fat pockets. The procedure was either botched, or was a scam to begin with. My mom spent several weeks healing the incisions made under her arms, but after recovery they looked and felt exactly the same as before.
3. As the OP has stated, there is only one type of acceptable body for women, and that is skinny. Curves are not attractive in Korea/China/Japan. If Kim Kardashian went over there, she wouldn't be called hot, she'd be called fat. Decently large breasts, while nice, must not come at the expense of slim figure. Add to this the fact that asian women usually have smaller breasts in comparison to westerners, and the conclusion is that the ideal body for a woman in Korea/China/Japan is something similar to what one would see from girls in high school, or even middle school. I wonder if this perception of beauty is one of the reasons why attraction to teenage girls seems more prevalent over there.
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Looks over functionalities, same with products. This is the direction in which the world is moving. Back then people really didn't care about all those things, now it is like if you don't have this and that then you are pretty much fucked.
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On March 19 2012 09:35 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:34 rotinegg wrote:On March 19 2012 09:33 IntoTheheart wrote: Koreans, how much hate is there for mainland Chinese people or are we pretty much mellow? So.. to be completely honest... we hate mainland Chinese people :x Hm. I'm not too surprised in all honesty. Relations aren't exactly thawed since the invasion(s) I'm guessing. And there's other stuff we've done recently.
no we just think they're dirty and rural. japanese is what you're thinking of.
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