On March 14 2012 18:03 ratgod wrote:
Always wanted to try out wc3 wish i had a comp for it TT
Always wanted to try out wc3 wish i had a comp for it TT
Get a new one! :D
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AssyrianKing
Australia2110 Posts
On March 14 2012 18:03 ratgod wrote: Always wanted to try out wc3 wish i had a comp for it TT Get a new one! :D | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
On March 02 2012 22:09 clusen wrote: I actually started to play WC3 with some friends again, WC3 3v3 is a thousand times better in every aspect than shitty SC2 teamgames. Even considering the fact that atleast half of the players hack it is a better experience than SC2, and that says something :p You definitely should try out one thing: 3x Orc, SH first with wards + mass grunts. You can eliminate first enemy practically right off the bat. Triple wards are really awesome support for your meatshields and when SHs start hitting lvl 2-3 it's almost impossible to stop this kind of rush. You can also add some towers to this, one guy should be teching (for some witch doctors) and one just spamming grunts out of double rax. Unorthodox strats, best strats! (just please don't play 3x NE with PotM, KotG and hunts, basekill strat... so gay...) So many memories... | ||
Ydriel
Italy516 Posts
P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be | ||
TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 15 2012 01:17 Ydriel wrote: Just finished installing RoC and TFT back on my computer, installed Garena and joined the group. A question: are you guys mainly playing on B.Net or Garena? P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be I think everyone is on Garena mostly, however some people have been using #TLwarcraft to organize games on bnet. | ||
AssyrianKing
Australia2110 Posts
On March 15 2012 01:34 TheToast wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2012 01:17 Ydriel wrote: Just finished installing RoC and TFT back on my computer, installed Garena and joined the group. A question: are you guys mainly playing on B.Net or Garena? P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be I think everyone is on Garena mostly, however some people have been using #TLwarcraft to organize games on bnet. Basically it, and guys, it would help if everyone was more active or atleast in the chat channels so people can stay and not leave | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
I'll also use this thread to share good VODs. Like this one. Nail-biting action packed game until the very end. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
On March 16 2012 04:06 Djagulingu wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DwN1JCcK4M I'll also use this thread to share good VODs. Like this one. Nail-biting action packed game until the very end. Not really. The caster is constantly repeating just 4 things "I believe", "probably", "nice", "no". It appears that the caster is not knowledgeable enough to do it, his predictions are mostly wrong and his english isn't all that great either. To clarify some things for people who watched even the first 10 minutes of the VOD: I've been away from the scene for quite a while now so I can't say who's top at the moment, but the guys in this VOD (who are announced by the caster as top players) are nowhere close to what I consider "top". Top players in most RTS games are discerned by the amount of mistakes they make during the game. Less mistakes = more pro. This guys make a ton of stupid mistakes that shouldn't happen at the top of the game. I know that most of the old pros left and most likely there was some kind of void to be filled at the top of WC3, but really? This guys? As much as I love WC3, this game was pretty boring, uneventful and full of dumb mistakes. If those mistakes would be avoided this game should have ended a lot sooner. For comaprison: If shit doesn't happen in at least 3 places all over the map simultanusely, it's not that pro... | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
I would put his current skill level over that of Remind and FoV of yesteryears. Lawliet is also another nice player, definitely a top Korean playing in foreign tournaments. Also you can't really compare a moneyless online tournament to a LAN tournament, thats just unfair I'll add, being Believes old manager, I have witnessed him beat ReminD many of times before, so, yea. Going gargs vs NE is a good way to end up dead in modern wc3 strategy, the TeD strat utilized in Believes game is much, much better. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
But somehow this newer players don't seem to have this "omg" aura around them. I'll definitely watch more vods to check it out for sure as it's dumb to really judge anyone by seeing just 1 or 2 games. Edit: btw. does anyone remember this game between Grubby and FoV on Echo or Plunder Isle (or whatever this 1v1 small map was called) where the game was decided by UD death pacting or not death pacting the shade at the time when TC stomp was killing said shade (this shade being the only non-hero unit alive and both players being completely mined out)? This was SO epic! | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137200&highlight=wcg Lawliet placed top 8, losing to Moon 1-2 Believe placed top 8 losing to LyN 0-2 (damn ud vs orc matchup) edit: sorry, that was the year before he lost to LyN, he slept in during this years qualifiers dont know how much closer to top you would like these players to be xD | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
Just kidding I'll look into them. | ||
AssyrianKing
Australia2110 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
Or be gay and go CL + ziggurat rush vs Orc. So much fun! | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15897 Posts
On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote: Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re. this mu depends on the bm's items :p | ||
Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On March 18 2012 22:21 Manit0u wrote: Read the guide Or be gay and go CL + ziggurat rush vs Orc. So much fun! That shit is so funny to watch XD , this is a link to the first VOD , but everyone has to see all 5 (good games) , I think Hasu goes for this rush in one of them. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
On March 18 2012 22:39 Erasme wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote: Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re. this mu depends on the bm's items :p Not really. As long as you can survive until T2 in a reasonable shape you should be fine. That's when you start getting your shades and BM needs to burn a big chunk of his income on invul pots as you nuke him to death the instant he comes near. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15897 Posts
On March 19 2012 00:03 Manit0u wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2012 22:39 Erasme wrote: On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote: Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re. this mu depends on the bm's items :p Not really. As long as you can survive until T2 in a reasonable shape you should be fine. That's when you start getting your shades and BM needs to burn a big chunk of his income on invul pots as you nuke him to death the instant he comes near. On certain maps, namely tm, if the bm gets one exp tome, you lose (that's also true for hu/orc, am level 3 means you lost 2burrows). One the rest, if he gets 2claws, you also lost the game. Crits will simply two shot your lich. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17165 Posts
Nukes are nice but they don't work so well vs O due to most of their units being pretty strong, it's sometimes a good idea to get utility instead. | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On March 19 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote: You can always go DK/CL vs O and mitigate BM's crits this way (CL/DK + fiends was standard vs O for quite some time). Or even DL and put BM to sleep, removing him from the fight for a couple seconds periodically. Nukes are nice but they don't work so well vs O due to most of their units being pretty strong, it's sometimes a good idea to get utility instead. Problem with undead is that undead has less utility and more nukes. If it wasn't for those little twerps called spirit walkers, I could also cripple and/or curse BMs and rape his dps that way. By the way, is DK+Ghouls a viable strat vs orc or should i go dk+fiends? Fiends always seem to come out a little bit late and i get fucked if I go fiends and orc goes early bm+grunt pressure (what st1tch02 did to me in every single god damn game). | ||
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