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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 12 2012 15:49 PiPoGevy wrote: Were trying very hard to get more people mate, were bringing something back from the dead remember It's true, we need our necromancer master training to finish. And that takes a long time. | ||
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Panzamelano
Colombia248 Posts
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Fallians
Canada242 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 13 2012 02:47 Fallians wrote: I would be willing to try warcraft 3, but sadly I suck so bad it hurts Why do we fall Bruce? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17851 Posts
Manit0u's Undead Guide - only 7 years old! A Different Look At Macro - only 2 years old! Some other old threads that bring back memories and have some interesting strategy discussion in it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45116 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=36232 Fun times! - that is, if you can get ahold of this WC3 version changer thingie which allows you to view older replays... So many memories... And we had so many really good players back in the day: SoleSteeler, Orlandu, Jinro (obviously still good but at a different game), Aether... | ||
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Legion710
Canada423 Posts
That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were. I think the last one had to do with sharing your units with your opponents or something. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 13 2012 06:14 Legion710 wrote: Lol are you kidding me? Hacking has been dominant in the last years of wc3. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a considerable factor to the death of w3. I remember in the very last games I played a year or two ago, they built like 5 necropolis in our bases with an immediate scout, then they had a maxed army 2 minutes after that with 3 heroes each. I don't even know what hack they used, but it sure ruined every desire to play ladder for me. That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were. That's why everyone is on Garena or playing custom games with other Liquid players  | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17851 Posts
On March 13 2012 06:14 Legion710 wrote: Lol are you kidding me? Hacking has been dominant in the last years of wc3. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a considerable factor to the death of w3. I remember in the very last games I played a year or two ago, they built like 5 necropolis in our bases with an immediate scout, then they had a maxed army 2 minutes after that with 3 heroes each. I don't even know what hack they used, but it sure ruined every desire to play ladder for me. That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were. I think the last one had to do with sharing your units with your opponents or something. I remember once when I laughed hard at someone trying to use disc hack on me. Game starts, he says GG, I get huge lag and it seems like I'm going to DC but I just wait it out. The game then resumes as normal and the guy DCs instead. True story. | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2123 Posts
On March 13 2012 04:23 Manit0u wrote: This thread needs some shameless plug from the past: Manit0u's Undead Guide - only 7 years old! A Different Look At Macro - only 2 years old! Some other old threads that bring back memories and have some interesting strategy discussion in it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45116 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=36232 Fun times! - that is, if you can get ahold of this WC3 version changer thingie which allows you to view older replays... So many memories... And we had so many really good players back in the day: SoleSteeler, Orlandu, Jinro (obviously still good but at a different game), Aether... Thanks very much, added to the OP | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17851 Posts
I wish I could find my basic guide for surrounds etc. I believe I posted it somewhere on TL.net and it was the most enlightening thing for me when I saw Grubby teach this to his friend (and also, why you had to remap "Move" to "Q" because it's the most important key). Brief summary: You can test it out yourself, because it's only good when you see it (someone could do it and post screenshots). Start a test game and go Orc (it's easier to see what's this all about with Grunts as they're so big). 1. Build 4 Grunts and a hero (or 5 grunts). 2. Put hero in the center and spread 4 grunts around the edges of the screen. 3. Select all the grunts, press "move" command once and click on the hero. 4. Spread grunts again and this time issue "move" command twice (Q, Q, click) and see the difference. Best key mapping (you can do it yourself by just editing the keys.txt file in your WC3 dir): QWER ASDF ZXCV Do it for every menu. You then get Q - move, A - attack, S - stop, ZXCV - hero and unit skills (Z, tab, Z, tab, Z is pretty damn easy for tripple nuke), Z - build (for workers), you then can build early stuff nicely and even if you forget some shortcut you can just take a quick glance on the grid and you instantly know what key it corresponds to. Save time, be more efficient! P. S. Imba gay HU vs UD strat for the brave: rax + lumbermill + altar make footies, go towards UD base with footies + militia, buy Firelord on the way, tower rush with footies + spawns. Get defend if you see fiends. So gay | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
also, speaking of WTV, I am still a broadcaster for that, if it is still active, and can provide that service if ever need be. I also run my own group, so I can invite others to be able to broadcast. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17851 Posts
On March 14 2012 05:17 Holcan wrote: you only need 4 units to surround, and q doesn't work if you play elf, or human (or in some cases undead) or rather, if you play elf, or human and move command is q, you need to reset build quill beast on the beast master to a new key. also, speaking of WTV, I am still a broadcaster for that, if it is still active, and can provide that service if ever need be. I also run my own group, so I can invite others to be able to broadcast. You're surrounding 1 unit with 4 (that's why you build 5), it's just to show the difference between one and double-move. Q doesn't overlap as ideally you want to remap everything so even beastmaster has his skills under ZXCV. And on a sidenote, you can surround with 2-3 units just fine under certain conditions (terrain blocking, wisp well building etc.). | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
I guess Manit0u's talking about something like the SC2 grid layout. I'm not too big a fan of it in either game, because of how I hit my Shift/Control buttons, but I won't lie, having to reach for M is kind of annoying at times. :x | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17851 Posts
A and S being the only ones that don't fit the grid (A would be patrol and S empty) but they're still close and way too natural for attack and stop to change them. You should really try it. | ||
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Ydriel
Italy516 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
so we can pick ourselves up again sir. i have the RTS itch, been playing BW and I want to learn this baby too! edit: btw is there a wc3 fish server? | ||
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ratgod
United States34 Posts
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