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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 12 2012 13:21 GMT
#161
On March 12 2012 15:49 PiPoGevy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 05:36 Djagulingu wrote:
It's really difficult to get games in the group. Everyone signed up for this but barely anyone plays. For this whole time, I could get a single game. People, where are you? Why are you not playing?

Were trying very hard to get more people mate, were bringing something back from the dead remember


It's true, we need our necromancer master training to finish. And that takes a long time.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Panzamelano
Profile Joined September 2010
Colombia248 Posts
March 12 2012 16:55 GMT
#162
Eh sorry for not logging in lately but i have been quite busy so as soon as i have free time ill go ahead and go into garena and play some more :D.
Fallians
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada242 Posts
March 12 2012 17:47 GMT
#163
I would be willing to try warcraft 3, but sadly I suck so bad it hurts
If you attack before 15minutes.. It's cheese....
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 12 2012 17:48 GMT
#164
On March 13 2012 02:47 Fallians wrote:
I would be willing to try warcraft 3, but sadly I suck so bad it hurts



Why do we fall Bruce?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 12 2012 18:24 GMT
#165
I'm willing to teach anyone willing to learn, but it begins with executing standard build orders :x
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:24:22
March 12 2012 19:23 GMT
#166
This thread needs some shameless plug from the past:

Manit0u's Undead Guide - only 7 years old!

A Different Look At Macro - only 2 years old!

Some other old threads that bring back memories and have some interesting strategy discussion in it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45116
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=36232

Fun times! - that is, if you can get ahold of this WC3 version changer thingie which allows you to view older replays...

So many memories... And we had so many really good players back in the day: SoleSteeler, Orlandu, Jinro (obviously still good but at a different game), Aether...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 21:14:50
March 12 2012 21:14 GMT
#167
Lol are you kidding me? Hacking has been dominant in the last years of wc3. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a considerable factor to the death of w3. I remember in the very last games I played a year or two ago, they built like 5 necropolis in our bases with an immediate scout, then they had a maxed army 2 minutes after that with 3 heroes each. I don't even know what hack they used, but it sure ruined every desire to play ladder for me.

That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were. I think the last one had to do with sharing your units with your opponents or something.
Tyrion Lannister
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 12 2012 21:15 GMT
#168
On March 13 2012 06:14 Legion710 wrote:
Lol are you kidding me? Hacking has been dominant in the last years of wc3. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a considerable factor to the death of w3. I remember in the very last games I played a year or two ago, they built like 5 necropolis in our bases with an immediate scout, then they had a maxed army 2 minutes after that with 3 heroes each. I don't even know what hack they used, but it sure ruined every desire to play ladder for me.

That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were.


That's why everyone is on Garena or playing custom games with other Liquid players
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17469 Posts
March 12 2012 21:50 GMT
#169
On March 13 2012 06:14 Legion710 wrote:
Lol are you kidding me? Hacking has been dominant in the last years of wc3. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it was a considerable factor to the death of w3. I remember in the very last games I played a year or two ago, they built like 5 necropolis in our bases with an immediate scout, then they had a maxed army 2 minutes after that with 3 heroes each. I don't even know what hack they used, but it sure ruined every desire to play ladder for me.

That's not even counting the countless disc hacks. You can't even count how many of them there were. I think the last one had to do with sharing your units with your opponents or something.


I remember once when I laughed hard at someone trying to use disc hack on me. Game starts, he says GG, I get huge lag and it seems like I'm going to DC but I just wait it out. The game then resumes as normal and the guy DCs instead.

True story.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
March 13 2012 06:47 GMT
#170
On March 13 2012 04:23 Manit0u wrote:
This thread needs some shameless plug from the past:

Manit0u's Undead Guide - only 7 years old!

A Different Look At Macro - only 2 years old!

Some other old threads that bring back memories and have some interesting strategy discussion in it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45116
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=36232

Fun times! - that is, if you can get ahold of this WC3 version changer thingie which allows you to view older replays...

So many memories... And we had so many really good players back in the day: SoleSteeler, Orlandu, Jinro (obviously still good but at a different game), Aether...

Thanks very much, added to the OP
John 15:13
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 11:42:18
March 13 2012 11:42 GMT
#171
Manit0u's undead guide is the best strategy guide about WC3 on internet. I couldn't find anything better.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 18:37:01
March 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#172
Yeah, well, I wrote it when I was still pretty bad. My prime came a bit later and even then I didn't give WC3 enough time to get really high. But I did follow it religiously, watched all tournaments (WaaaghTV was the single most awesome thing to ever grace RTS, ability to obs pro games yourself, looking at whatever you want atm?) and tested a lot of things and gathered quite a bit of experience this way.

I wish I could find my basic guide for surrounds etc. I believe I posted it somewhere on TL.net and it was the most enlightening thing for me when I saw Grubby teach this to his friend (and also, why you had to remap "Move" to "Q" because it's the most important key).

Brief summary:

You can test it out yourself, because it's only good when you see it (someone could do it and post screenshots).

Start a test game and go Orc (it's easier to see what's this all about with Grunts as they're so big).

1. Build 4 Grunts and a hero (or 5 grunts).
2. Put hero in the center and spread 4 grunts around the edges of the screen.
3. Select all the grunts, press "move" command once and click on the hero.
4. Spread grunts again and this time issue "move" command twice (Q, Q, click) and see the difference.

Best key mapping (you can do it yourself by just editing the keys.txt file in your WC3 dir):
QWER
ASDF
ZXCV

Do it for every menu. You then get Q - move, A - attack, S - stop, ZXCV - hero and unit skills (Z, tab, Z, tab, Z is pretty damn easy for tripple nuke), Z - build (for workers), you then can build early stuff nicely and even if you forget some shortcut you can just take a quick glance on the grid and you instantly know what key it corresponds to. Save time, be more efficient!

P. S.
Imba gay HU vs UD strat for the brave:
rax + lumbermill + altar
make footies, go towards UD base with footies + militia, buy Firelord on the way, tower rush with footies + spawns. Get defend if you see fiends.

So gay
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 20:19:41
March 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#173
you only need 4 units to surround, and q doesn't work if you play elf, or human (or in some cases undead) or rather, if you play elf, or human and move command is q, you need to reset build quill beast on the beast master to a new key.

also, speaking of WTV, I am still a broadcaster for that, if it is still active, and can provide that service if ever need be. I also run my own group, so I can invite others to be able to broadcast.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17469 Posts
March 13 2012 20:49 GMT
#174
On March 14 2012 05:17 Holcan wrote:
you only need 4 units to surround, and q doesn't work if you play elf, or human (or in some cases undead) or rather, if you play elf, or human and move command is q, you need to reset build quill beast on the beast master to a new key.

also, speaking of WTV, I am still a broadcaster for that, if it is still active, and can provide that service if ever need be. I also run my own group, so I can invite others to be able to broadcast.


You're surrounding 1 unit with 4 (that's why you build 5), it's just to show the difference between one and double-move. Q doesn't overlap as ideally you want to remap everything so even beastmaster has his skills under ZXCV.

And on a sidenote, you can surround with 2-3 units just fine under certain conditions (terrain blocking, wisp well building etc.).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 13 2012 21:00 GMT
#175
Holcan vs Manit0u grudge match?? Yes yes yes!!!
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
March 14 2012 00:25 GMT
#176
I'd like to obs that actually ...

I guess Manit0u's talking about something like the SC2 grid layout. I'm not too big a fan of it in either game, because of how I hit my Shift/Control buttons, but I won't lie, having to reach for M is kind of annoying at times. :x
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17469 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 01:31:03
March 14 2012 01:29 GMT
#177
By grid layout (haven't really played SC2) I mean your keyboard reflecting button position on the GUI. It feels strange at first, but after a couple of games the advantage of having everything close together becomes apparent. Just need to swap attack and patrol I believe. Q (move) and A (attack) will be your most used keys anyway (after 2 years of playing WC3 I practically stopped using right-click completely, just to set waypoints and shift-select focus target priority), then there's Z (first hero skill, first unit skill and build order for workers) and S (stop). All of them nicely close together.

A and S being the only ones that don't fit the grid (A would be patrol and S empty) but they're still close and way too natural for attack and stop to change them.

You should really try it.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
March 14 2012 05:31 GMT
#178
Damn, this sounds like fun! I'm in!
<3 SC2 <3<3 Dota 2. Steam ID: HellS
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 07:49:39
March 14 2012 07:47 GMT
#179
On March 13 2012 02:48 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 02:47 Fallians wrote:
I would be willing to try warcraft 3, but sadly I suck so bad it hurts



Why do we fall Bruce?


so we can pick ourselves up again sir.

i have the RTS itch, been playing BW and I want to learn this baby too!

edit:

btw is there a wc3 fish server?
ratgod
Profile Joined February 2012
United States34 Posts
March 14 2012 09:03 GMT
#180
Always wanted to try out wc3 wish i had a comp for it TT
I like starcraft a lot
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