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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
March 14 2012 09:20 GMT
#181
On March 14 2012 18:03 ratgod wrote:
Always wanted to try out wc3 wish i had a comp for it TT

Get a new one! :D
John 15:13
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 10:06:41
March 14 2012 10:02 GMT
#182
On March 02 2012 22:09 clusen wrote:
I actually started to play WC3 with some friends again, WC3 3v3 is a thousand times better in every aspect than shitty SC2 teamgames.
Even considering the fact that atleast half of the players hack it is a better experience than SC2, and that says something :p


You definitely should try out one thing: 3x Orc, SH first with wards + mass grunts. You can eliminate first enemy practically right off the bat. Triple wards are really awesome support for your meatshields and when SHs start hitting lvl 2-3 it's almost impossible to stop this kind of rush.
You can also add some towers to this, one guy should be teching (for some witch doctors) and one just spamming grunts out of double rax.

Unorthodox strats, best strats!

(just please don't play 3x NE with PotM, KotG and hunts, basekill strat... so gay...)

So many memories...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ydriel
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy516 Posts
March 14 2012 16:17 GMT
#183
Just finished installing RoC and TFT back on my computer, installed Garena and joined the group. A question: are you guys mainly playing on B.Net or Garena?

P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be
<3 SC2 <3<3 Dota 2. Steam ID: HellS
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 14 2012 16:34 GMT
#184
On March 15 2012 01:17 Ydriel wrote:
Just finished installing RoC and TFT back on my computer, installed Garena and joined the group. A question: are you guys mainly playing on B.Net or Garena?

P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be


I think everyone is on Garena mostly, however some people have been using #TLwarcraft to organize games on bnet.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
March 15 2012 11:21 GMT
#185
On March 15 2012 01:34 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 01:17 Ydriel wrote:
Just finished installing RoC and TFT back on my computer, installed Garena and joined the group. A question: are you guys mainly playing on B.Net or Garena?

P.S. Damn, I forgot how fun WC3 could be


I think everyone is on Garena mostly, however some people have been using #TLwarcraft to organize games on bnet.

Basically it, and guys, it would help if everyone was more active or atleast in the chat channels so people can stay and not leave
John 15:13
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 19:06:44
March 15 2012 19:06 GMT
#186


I'll also use this thread to share good VODs. Like this one. Nail-biting action packed game until the very end.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 00:30:13
March 16 2012 00:22 GMT
#187
On March 16 2012 04:06 Djagulingu wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DwN1JCcK4M

I'll also use this thread to share good VODs. Like this one. Nail-biting action packed game until the very end.


Not really. The caster is constantly repeating just 4 things "I believe", "probably", "nice", "no". It appears that the caster is not knowledgeable enough to do it, his predictions are mostly wrong and his english isn't all that great either.
To clarify some things for people who watched even the first 10 minutes of the VOD:
I've been away from the scene for quite a while now so I can't say who's top at the moment, but the guys in this VOD (who are announced by the caster as top players) are nowhere close to what I consider "top".
Top players in most RTS games are discerned by the amount of mistakes they make during the game. Less mistakes = more pro. This guys make a ton of stupid mistakes that shouldn't happen at the top of the game.

I know that most of the old pros left and most likely there was some kind of void to be filled at the top of WC3, but really? This guys?

As much as I love WC3, this game was pretty boring, uneventful and full of dumb mistakes. If those mistakes would be avoided this game should have ended a lot sooner.

For comaprison:



If shit doesn't happen in at least 3 places all over the map simultanusely, it's not that pro...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 00:47:45
March 16 2012 00:35 GMT
#188
Believe is the best Korean undead for well over a year now. edit: closer to two years now

I would put his current skill level over that of Remind and FoV of yesteryears.

Lawliet is also another nice player, definitely a top Korean playing in foreign tournaments.

Also you can't really compare a moneyless online tournament to a LAN tournament, thats just unfair

I'll add, being Believes old manager, I have witnessed him beat ReminD many of times before, so, yea.

Going gargs vs NE is a good way to end up dead in modern wc3 strategy, the TeD strat utilized in Believes game is much, much better.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 01:05:38
March 16 2012 01:00 GMT
#189
Like I said, it's been a while
But somehow this newer players don't seem to have this "omg" aura around them. I'll definitely watch more vods to check it out for sure as it's dumb to really judge anyone by seeing just 1 or 2 games.

Edit: btw. does anyone remember this game between Grubby and FoV on Echo or Plunder Isle (or whatever this 1v1 small map was called) where the game was decided by UD death pacting or not death pacting the shade at the time when TC stomp was killing said shade (this shade being the only non-hero unit alive and both players being completely mined out)?
This was SO epic!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 01:22:07
March 16 2012 01:16 GMT
#190
Well, heres a player list from last WCG Korea

http://www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137200&highlight=wcg


Lawliet placed top 8, losing to Moon 1-2
Believe placed top 8 losing to LyN 0-2 (damn ud vs orc matchup) edit: sorry, that was the year before he lost to LyN, he slept in during this years qualifiers

dont know how much closer to top you would like these players to be xD
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
March 16 2012 01:35 GMT
#191
The best of the best... With honours!

Just kidding I'll look into them.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
March 17 2012 11:08 GMT
#192
Just keep playing guys
John 15:13
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 18 2012 13:20 GMT
#193
Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:22:02
March 18 2012 13:21 GMT
#194
Read the guide

Or be gay and go CL + ziggurat rush vs Orc. So much fun!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 18 2012 13:39 GMT
#195
On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote:
Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re.

this mu depends on the bm's items :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 18 2012 14:54 GMT
#196
On March 18 2012 22:21 Manit0u wrote:
Read the guide

Or be gay and go CL + ziggurat rush vs Orc. So much fun!


That shit is so funny to watch XD , this is a link to the first VOD , but everyone has to see all 5 (good games) , I think Hasu goes for this rush in one of them.

Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
March 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#197
On March 18 2012 22:39 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote:
Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re.

this mu depends on the bm's items :p


Not really. As long as you can survive until T2 in a reasonable shape you should be fine. That's when you start getting your shades and BM needs to burn a big chunk of his income on invul pots as you nuke him to death the instant he comes near.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 18 2012 15:09 GMT
#198
On March 19 2012 00:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 22:39 Erasme wrote:
On March 18 2012 22:20 Djagulingu wrote:
Hey st1tch02, if you're reading this, I still don't know how to play UDvsOrc but I want to re.

this mu depends on the bm's items :p


Not really. As long as you can survive until T2 in a reasonable shape you should be fine. That's when you start getting your shades and BM needs to burn a big chunk of his income on invul pots as you nuke him to death the instant he comes near.

On certain maps, namely tm, if the bm gets one exp tome, you lose (that's also true for hu/orc, am level 3 means you lost 2burrows). One the rest, if he gets 2claws, you also lost the game. Crits will simply two shot your lich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 15:24:23
March 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#199
You can always go DK/CL vs O and mitigate BM's crits this way (CL/DK + fiends was standard vs O for quite some time). Or even DL and put BM to sleep, removing him from the fight for a couple seconds periodically.
Nukes are nice but they don't work so well vs O due to most of their units being pretty strong, it's sometimes a good idea to get utility instead.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 20:22:57
March 18 2012 20:21 GMT
#200
On March 19 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote:
You can always go DK/CL vs O and mitigate BM's crits this way (CL/DK + fiends was standard vs O for quite some time). Or even DL and put BM to sleep, removing him from the fight for a couple seconds periodically.
Nukes are nice but they don't work so well vs O due to most of their units being pretty strong, it's sometimes a good idea to get utility instead.

Problem with undead is that undead has less utility and more nukes. If it wasn't for those little twerps called spirit walkers, I could also cripple and/or curse BMs and rape his dps that way.

By the way, is DK+Ghouls a viable strat vs orc or should i go dk+fiends? Fiends always seem to come out a little bit late and i get fucked if I go fiends and orc goes early bm+grunt pressure (what st1tch02 did to me in every single god damn game).
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