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On February 08 2012 00:53 FuxFux wrote:
A game that requires no skill such as LoL might make you feel relieved, you might feel good about yourself when you win matches. Owning noobs and what-not. But deluding yourself into believing you are actually playing a game superior to StarCraft 2 is unacceptable, and quite frankly, pathethic.
What standards are you holding of StarCraft 2 being better than League of Legends? Video games have one purpose: entertainment. For you to state that League of Legends requires no skill tells me that you have an extremely lack of understanding of that game and/or you have never played it or have not played it in a serious manner (and as such do not have experience to know how to describe it). It's like players in Brood War who only play maps such as Fastest Possible Map, Zero Clutter, Micro Jail, and various comp stomps saying that Brood War sucks when they haven't even scratched the surface of what the game actually holds.
Think what you want of yourself, but with a statement like that from you there really isn't much quality and worth to you as a single fan.
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United States5162 Posts
Who cares? Destiny says dumb things all the time. It's half the reason he gets so many viewers.
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I just hope that destiny switching to LoL will not make all of his 4chan fans come to the stream chats of the real zerg players...  We need you destiny! As retard magnet, but nonetheless, we need you!
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this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though.
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On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though.
What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL?
Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player.
In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells.
In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle.
for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be.
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personally dont watch destiny a lot anymore because his "opinions" he cant say 1 game is harder then another at a pro lvl when he really isnt a "pro" he hasnt won shit or done shit being a big streamer doesnt do him shit but make dumb fans. Until he wins a GSL and plays LoL at a top lvl his opinion is shit and is about the same credibility as anyone here posting.
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On February 08 2012 01:24 FuxFux wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though. What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL? Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player. In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells. In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle. for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be.
All you have to do in CS 1.6 is shoot two guns, throw a couple grenades and sometimes plant a bomb. So by your logic CS doesn't take that much skill?
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He's an entertainer and makes his money on stream views. This isn't surprising at all. You guys need to stop buying his act and remember that he supports himself and his *child* by how many views he is able to get. A parent will do whatever it takes to support their child best they can.
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Trying to justify his SC2 failure with these statements. Yawn.
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On February 08 2012 01:28 Moliere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:24 FuxFux wrote:On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though. What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL? Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player. In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells. In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle. for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be. All you have to do in CS 1.6 is shoot two guns, throw a couple grenades and sometimes plant a bomb. So by your logic CS doesn't take that much skill?
Compared to SC2? CS 1.6 takes much less brain power. However at least for CS 1.6 players needed to be extremely good at certain aspects that are non existent in SC2 at all or at least matter less (accuracy being the most dominant).
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who cares about destiny anyway?
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On February 08 2012 01:20 Cascade wrote:I just hope that destiny switching to LoL will not make all of his 4chan fans come to the stream chats of the real zerg players... We need you destiny! As retard magnet, but nonetheless, we need you!
I don't think there are anyone who hates Destiny more than 4chans /v/.
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On February 08 2012 01:24 FuxFux wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though. What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL? Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player. In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells. In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle. for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be.
So pros can't just 1/1/1 cheese every game and then 4 gate 5 times in the finals to win the gsl? in lol you need to work with a team often times you can't communicate with them in a team fight that lasts seconds and requires you to be correctly positioned and keep 9 other people in consideration to your every move. not to mention having to keep an eye on your lane partner, worry about getting ganked, directly compete with another guy or 2 in lane while you try and cs and do all of the above.
build orders become a mindless action after a while and "macroing like crazy" doesn't take any skill hitting a hotkey and then a button from anywhere on the map isn't crazy its easy. Do you really want to compare battle micro to a teamfight in lol?
What I think this should be about is why hes making these statements while in a korean pro house. Its pathetic that hes playing lol on the time that he should be getting better at sc2 when hes in the perfect enviorment to.
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Frankly I don't know why anyone would listen to Destiny's advice about starcraft 2, and I certainly wouldn't recommend a new player to him.
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On February 08 2012 01:02 Ragoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 00:55 JOJOsc2news wrote:Still, I must say that it is surprising and shocking to find that Destiny thinks a noob oriented game such as League of Legends takes more skill than StarCraft 2. This kind of statement is in no way the result of a clear and lucid thought process. Taking out the judgement hammer. "Noob oriented game" is not really the kinda language that makes me follow your argument. Edit: A link to the statement would be nice. But it's exactly that. It's DotA made for casual players. Which means it takes away depth from the competitive play as well. And while you can definitely say that mechanically Dota games don't require nearly as much, the team communication/coordination is something that's not at all present in SC2. So comparing those two games is quite complex... and probably pointless. edit: Also Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 00:53 FuxFux wrote:
Greetings TeamLiquid Community.
I think we are all a bit shocked about Destiny's statements of late.
you do realize that we don't all watch Destiny's stream and care about what he says?
Try playing 2v2/3v3/4v4 in wc3 I imagine if there were actually teams in sc2 that took team games seriously and had a PC able to handle the destruction that is 12 colossi firing their lazers, it would take twice the coordination of Dota/LoL. ^^ Just sayin
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On February 08 2012 01:36 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:24 FuxFux wrote:On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though. What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL? Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player. In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells. In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle. for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be. So pros can't just 1/1/1 cheese every game and then 4 gate 5 times in the finals to win the gsl? in lol you need to work with a team often times you can't communicate with them in a team fight that lasts seconds and requires you to be correctly positioned and keep 9 other people in consideration to your every move. not to mention having to keep an eye on your lane partner, worry about getting ganked, directly compete with another guy or 2 in lane while you try and cs and do all of the above. build orders become a mindless action after a while and "macroing like crazy" doesn't take any skill hitting a hotkey and then a button from anywhere on the map isn't crazy its easy. Do you really want to compare battle micro to a teamfight in lol?
All you do is use 20 words to describe a very simple situation for an individual player. he needs to control ONE unit, position ONE unit and micro ONE unit. and if you think that pros can "just" 1/1/1 cheese every game and then 4 gate 5 times in the finals and win a gsl then you already lost this argument and you probably lack a bit of sanity too.
how did LoL fanboys got to teamliquid anyway? Destiny is already beginning to have a negative effect on this community :/
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On February 08 2012 01:38 FuxFux wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:36 sermokala wrote:On February 08 2012 01:24 FuxFux wrote:On February 08 2012 01:20 sermokala wrote:
this is a halrious thread. Destiny makes a valid point and instead of refuting it people go into a massive hissy about hows hes lost his passion and lost touch with his viewers even when you can get a dozen pros to back up his statements.
nice first post though. What is valid about his point? Did you ever play LOL? Compare the average APM of a StarCraft 2 player to that of a LOL player. In LOL you need to take care of a champion, creep timings and 4 spells. In SC2 you need to take care of build a base, mining resources, executing build orders perfectly, positioning your army properly, macroing like crazy to have a huge army and micro with 200 APM to win a single battle. for an individual player SC2 is much harder. and even for teams, playing SC2 with multiple partners is much harder to coordinate than playing LOL will ever be. So pros can't just 1/1/1 cheese every game and then 4 gate 5 times in the finals to win the gsl? in lol you need to work with a team often times you can't communicate with them in a team fight that lasts seconds and requires you to be correctly positioned and keep 9 other people in consideration to your every move. not to mention having to keep an eye on your lane partner, worry about getting ganked, directly compete with another guy or 2 in lane while you try and cs and do all of the above. build orders become a mindless action after a while and "macroing like crazy" doesn't take any skill hitting a hotkey and then a button from anywhere on the map isn't crazy its easy. Do you really want to compare battle micro to a teamfight in lol? All you do is use 20 words to describe a very simple situation for an individual player. he needs to control ONE unit, position ONE unit and micro ONE unit. and if you think that pros can "just" 1/1/1 cheese every game and then 4 gate 5 times in the finals and win a gsl then you already lost this argument and you probably lack a bit of sanity too. how did LoL fanboys got to teamliquid anyway? Destiny is already beginning to have a negative effect on this community :/
you have to control 1 unit when you have 9 others that are not under your control to consider. You can't tell me that more and more gsl games are getting back to cheese. MMA beat MVP primary though cheese builds. every protoss does a 2 base allin. Its not a simple situation at all when you have so many different champs that you can play or someone else play. in sc2 you always know your race and before it matters always know the race of your opponent.
Heck midas thinks that lol is harder then sc2. I think he knows more then the both of us on this situation.
oh and when did all the destiny fanboys get to tl. I thought they all stayed at reddit where they belong. negative affect on the community comment with 4 posts don't be stupid.
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People love to overestimate SC2 and underestimate Lol.
It's called "BIAS".
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This thread is going to be mashed potatoes when I make the "Destiny thinks Alienware is better than a custom build" thread. You're getting trolled as fuck, bud.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49479 Posts
On February 08 2012 01:49 Velr wrote:
People love to overestimate SC2 and underestimate Lol.
It's called "BIAS".
well its worse.
A game that requires no skill such as LoL might make you feel relieved
looooooooool, its not the statement itself that I'm laughing at but the irony of it.
either way OP, Destiny is a damn good troll man, don't let it get to you.
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