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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On February 09 2012 23:20 Takkara wrote: None of them say that because it's blatantly false... Chaox was complaining about that because they lost the finals against M5 by getting counterjungled and outlaned to all hell. But then the M5 vs. CLG.eu was everything but snowballing. People get salty when they lose and say dumb shit all the time. BW pros and SC2 players are little different. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13990 Posts
the one thing that it has over sc2 is reconecting. If that was added to sc2 I think it would fix a lot of the lan problems. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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Ry-Masta-T
United States478 Posts
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FuxFux
Israel21 Posts
On February 08 2012 02:35 Destiny wrote: It is not possible to be incredibly competitive and still goof off day in and day out. If you want to watch someone just "have fun" on stream and "be crazy" etc...etc..., then Dragon would be a good pick for you. I understand that this upsets some people, but, due to my desire to actually be competitive instead of only entertaining, it's something that has to have happened. I've made some pretty outlandish statements recently, mostly out of anger, I think, due to how fucking stupid the vocal minority in this community is. That being said, the "strategy" aspect of Starcraft 2 is insanely lacking. I've given up trying to convince casuals of that, but I'd gladly discuss that aspect with any other pro gamer, and I'm pretty certain they'd agree with me. My complaint has never been that Starcraft 2 is "hard", just that time invested into the game is everything, with strategy/intelligence taking a far far far backseat to just raw games invested. I'm only publically humiliating myself to the vocal minorities that only see 1 game, their legendary Starcraft 2, as the only competitive game in the world. I still think I could defend the statement that LoL (or any MOBA, honestly, especially DotA 2) requires more "skill" in terms of strategy/intelligence, BY FAR, than Starcraft 2. "No skill" game makes you sound immature and bigoted, like your blessed Starcraft 2 is the only competitive game in the world. I wish you would have been around when all of the BW-fans were saying the exact same thing about SC2, and I can tell by the tone of your post that you weren't. Sorry if you feel that way, then. My life will never revolve around seeking redemption from fans. If you want to watch someone act politically correct, then I suggest Incontrol. I love you! Always have and always will  No matter what you do. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On February 10 2012 03:54 FuxFux wrote: I love you! Always have and always will No matter what you do.No one really gives a shit for your patronizing, honestly. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:15 blabber wrote: so funny when sc2 fanboys start crying when their beloved progamers start telling how sc2 really is Agreed, this thread is hilarious. I like how SC2 fans pretty much acts like BW fans when it comes to LoL/HoN etc. Why is it that when LoL is compared to SC2, everyone says that it’s a “noob game” that “take no skill”. What you guys should say is: - “SC2 had a good run, but even good things will come to an end.” - “LoL doesn’t take less skill, it’s just more focus on strategy! Who wants to see progamers macro anyway?” - “When MVP makes the switch we will se the full potential of LoL. Can’t wait!” - “Saying that LoL is an inferior game is just nostalgia!” Sounds familiar? Think about it the next time you QQ about “BW elitism”. | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
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kAelle_sc
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ssi.bal-listic
United States568 Posts
LoL? It might be similar to DoTA in the sense that teamwork is crucial but the game got really dumbed down in a bad way (not like BW -> SC2 but stuff like no deny, free blink). | ||
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
Stan (This is just a tribute to the best post in the world) | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
I think sc2 is a lot more mechanically demanding and benefits a lot more from just grinding out games to make sure you always spot things on the minimap and execute stuff well, things like that Dota on the other hand is a lot more dynamic game, and it's more about being able to make on the fly decisions, juking, being able to judge whehter I should use this dd rune to push or to gank, things like that. Even hero drafting is a very large part of the game, that obviously decides how the entire game is going to play out, and good drafting is a lot more advanced than it may look like at first glance. Personally though, I think sc2 is the harder game to play at a high level out of the two, but they're such different games that focus on different aspects entirely, that they probably should'nt even be compared in the first place. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:38 gn0m wrote: Agreed, this thread is hilarious. I like how SC2 fans pretty much acts like BW fans when it comes to LoL/HoN etc. Why is it that when LoL is compared to SC2, everyone says that it’s a “noob game” that “take no skill”. What you guys should say is: - “SC2 had a good run, but even good things will come to an end.” - “LoL doesn’t take less skill, it’s just more focus on strategy! Who wants to see progamers macro anyway?” - “When MVP makes the switch we will se the full potential of LoL. Can’t wait!” - “Saying that LoL is an inferior game is just nostalgia!” Sounds familiar? Think about it the next time you QQ about “BW elitism”. Want to know what's worse than a fanboy? One that can't admit it. No one is saying LoL "takes no skill", we're saying it doesn't take more skill competitively than Starcraft. I don't even really watch Starcraft anymore, I mostly watch and play Moba games these days and I can still recognize that. That doesn't make SC2 a "better" game, or a more fun to watch game, or a more popular game. It just means it has a higher skill ceiling in its competitive area. Yes, Starcraft fans in this thread are being extremely pretentious. But, surprise surprise, you're on a fucking forum dedicated to Starcraft and Starcraft related discussion, news, streams, and events. A forum that is arguably the most pretentious of forums on the entire internet. We are all elitists, that's why we come here instead of Battle.net or whatever. So don't kick and cry when people defend their game on their forum. If we made this same exact thread on the LoL forums, everything would be switched and there would be a SC2 fan in your position making a similar post making fun of "LoL fanboys." You see how this works? And please, stop trying to say what it's "like" and let's talk about what it "is" for once. Not to mention, as many have said before, this entire argument is entirely arbitrary. No one is going to change a fanboys mind over an internet discussion. Yes, I called you a fanboy. We're all fucking fanboys here, every last one of us for our own opinions. We come to threads like these to reaffirm and gratify our own ideas by trying to smash on others and make them look stupid or wrong or whatever. No one is going to convince anyone of anything on a subject like this. So I don't know why we make a thread like this. | ||
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Pulzlulz
Germany412 Posts
Want to know what's worse than a fanboy? One that can't admit it. No one is saying LoL "takes no skill", we're saying it doesn't take more skill competitively than Starcraft. . A game that requires no skill such as LoL That was the OP, want me to quote more? | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On February 10 2012 22:54 Pulzlulz wrote: That was the OP, want me to quote more? Why dont you just take the time to actually read my entire post. It might answer your question. | ||
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Djeez
543 Posts
// Quake 3 is the true FPS e-sports! None of this casual Counter Strike bullshit, with randomness in your shots, and god it's so fucking sloooow i could play it with my eyes closed! Try hitting a strafe jumping target going at 300 mph while remembering your items timing! And no reliance on teammates either mano a mano motherfuckers (or rather rockets vs rockets...)! | ||
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On February 10 2012 22:48 Candadar wrote: Want to know what's worse than a fanboy? One that can't admit it. What does this have to do with anything? If you are implying that I’m a blind fanboy I can assure you that I play neither LoL or SC2. On February 10 2012 22:48 Candadar wrote: No one is saying LoL "takes no skill", we're saying it doesn't take more skill competitively than Starcraft. I don't even really watch Starcraft anymore, I mostly watch and play Moba games these days and I can still recognize that. That doesn't make SC2 a "better" game, or a more fun to watch game, or a more popular game. It just means it has a higher skill ceiling in its competitive area. Um.. yes they do. Which was pointed out to you by Pulzlulz, who probably read your whole post. Maybe you should read the whole OP? On February 10 2012 22:48 Candadar wrote: Yes, Starcraft fans in this thread are being extremely pretentious. But, surprise surprise, you're on a fucking forum dedicated to Starcraft and Starcraft related discussion, news, streams, and events. A forum that is arguably the most pretentious of forums on the entire internet. We are all elitists, that's why we come here instead of Battle.net or whatever. So don't kick and cry when people defend their game on their forum. If we made this same exact thread on the LoL forums, everything would be switched and there would be a SC2 fan in your position making a similar post making fun of "LoL fanboys." You see how this works? You are not really getting my point are you? What’s funny about this thread isn’t that people think that SC2 takes more skill than LoL (or vice versa). The funny thing is that SC2 fans cry when people say that BW takes more skill (“It is a totally different game, we can’t see the potential of SC2 until Flash switches, SC2 is more focused on strategy!”) while proceeding to bash LoL for being a noob game with easy mechanics. Double standard much? On February 10 2012 22:48 Candadar wrote: And please, stop trying to say what it's "like" and let's talk about what it "is" for once. Not to mention, as many have said before, this entire argument is entirely arbitrary. No one is going to change a fanboys mind over an internet discussion. Yes, I called you a fanboy. We're all fucking fanboys here, every last one of us for our own opinions. We come to threads like these to reaffirm and gratify our own ideas by trying to smash on others and make them look stupid or wrong or whatever. No one is going to convince anyone of anything on a subject like this. So I don't know why we make a thread like this. You keep calling me a fanboy although I could care less about SC2 and LoL. The rest makes no sense (“stop trying to say what it's ‘like’ and let's talk about what it ‘is’ for once”). | ||
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