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On February 08 2012 02:35 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +Even though I no longer respect you, I do hope you will be able to one day find redemption. My life will never revolve around seeking redemption from fans. If you want to watch someone act politically correct, then I suggest Incontrol.
Did anyone else shout "OH SNAP DAWG" after reading this?
Destiny expressed an opinion, one the OP may or may not share. However, should your respect for people hinge on them sharing exactly your opinions, well, prepare for a lonely life. And lots of Reddit posting.
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I just find it funny that the OP made a post revolving around a comment made in IRC
lmao
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I think the OP has forgotten something critical. I don't want to be too controversial here, but I'm going to come out and say it. Steven "Destiny" Bonnell II is human. Whoa did I just push out the boat!
More seriously, this happens to many people in that they just get bored of playing the same game over and over again. Even SC2 fanatics take some time out to play other games. In regards to stating that LoL takes more skill at high levels than SC2, this thinking is also commonplace (not LoL in particular, but when joining a new game it often feels like it requires more skill than the game before). I remember playing SC2 plenty, getting frustrated and bored, switching over to Dawn of War 2 for a while and immediately thinking "this takes so much more brains than SC2 ever did". This isn't true, they are different games, so comparison doesn't make much sense, but the psychology of it is that in playing something new you see it through fresh eyes and with an uncorrupted attitude, without all the historical baggage of frustration, anger, feeling of impotence and death at the hands of "stupid" strategy. You quickly start comparing the "stupid" game with the new game without taking into consideration of the history behind your play. Irrational? Maybe, but it's what happens. When I went back to SC2 again, I felt much better about it, fresh eyes regained. Anyway, this is completely normal and Destiny shouldn't be chastised by his fans for it.
So calm down. Destiny is just like many of us - human. Someone who gets bored and frustrated, someone who forgets history, but perhaps more importantly, someone likes to play other games too. SC2 isn't the be all and end all of games. Have a cup of tea. 
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First of all, to be quite honest, Destiny has a point. Although SC2 requires more skill, the strategy aspect revolves around "textbook" responses and memorizing builds.
Second of all, even if it was some absurd or outlandish statement, Destiny just threw it around in his stream chat after probably feeling some level of frustration with SC2. We all make impulsive statements sometimes, there is no reason to to obsess over these. For fuck's sake, this is TeamLiquid, not Entertainment Tonight.
Lastly, and most importantly, who the fuck cares? I'm a casual viewer of Destiny's stream. I don't tune in every fucking second that he is online to jerk off to his webcam and then make a page long post about something he said in chat. Even if Destiny does switch to LoL or whatever, let me be the first to say that I will not give a fuck. I'll just watch GOM vods or something. This community has enough drama and there is no reason to make it where it doesn't exist. I just think it'll be best if people don't obsess over shit like this and just get the fuck off of Destiny's nuts.
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On February 13 2012 08:16 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I just find it funny that the OP made a post revolving around a comment made in IRC
lmao
I've GOT to agree with this. Have you, OP, ever been in an IRC for more than a minute? Unless you're in a really baller + manner streamer's chat it is absolute chaos and trolling. Essentially there are three things people say and do in your average IRC.
- Troll
- "LOL!!"
- "why is this chat so stupid?"
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At the end of the day Destiny is 100% right - you mega SC2 fanboys may not like it but he is correct when he says SC2 lacks decent strategies...it is essentially a game of the same consistant builds.
who cares if he now prefers LoL - are some people that burthurt that they cant accept that their is more than one game to be played?
and his comments on InControl? SO WHAT? Incontrol has made plenty of spiteful comments at other players including Destiny in the past - again SO WHAT..
the main problem here is that many people in this community really need to grow up.
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Met Destiny almost a year to date at the MWC event elevengaming held in St. Louis. We even sat across from each other after the event for lunch the final day. I didn't even realize how popular he was.
He came along way and if he really does make that much with his stream then I think he's making a poor decision. I believe he could (if he doesn't already) pull in close to 6 figs just by streaming? I would just stream until SC2 ended and if it lasted for a decade, and the viewers stayed with me, just retire/go to other games then. I think its too soon that he's bailing on SC2.
I just disagree with all his comments too. RTS's to me take a lot more skill than MOTA's.
gl steven.
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Wow, the OP is so full of cliche, melodramatic writing o_0
That said, I can understand where Destiny is coming from, the strategy in ARTS's seem to be more cognitive than how SC2 is atm. And I do agree with him that there are some major roadblocks to allow SC2 to flourish as a the champion of RTS's it should be, I won't go into detail as it's all been said before but namely, unit design, micro-reducing abilities, Blizzards removal of micro usage (Void Ray fazing).
Although I know Destiny is trolling (Don't know how OP never realized with the "umad"), anyone who think that LoL requires more skill to play at a high level than SC2 is a joke.
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Why do you care so much what he wants to play? You can't force him to play a game if he doesn't want to do it. I'm not familiar with what he said, but I don't really care much because he has the right of free speech, and if you get offended by it, that's your problem.
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IMO
SC2 you can win with better macro.
LoL you have to outplay the other person.
or a better example: 1300 elo in LoL but diamond in SC2.
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On February 16 2012 21:40 courtpanda wrote:
IMO
SC2 you can win with better macro.
LoL you have to outplay the other person.
or a better example: 1300 elo in LoL but diamond in SC2.
1300 in pub, of cause, you are playing a team game, not outplay the other person
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Do you require more skill in LoL then StarCraft II? Maybe. Just like in StarCraft II there are some things you need to know to play LoL good. There are builds [like you can go for Ability Power or Attack Power with some of the Champions.], some Microing, and as always, outplaying your opponent/opponent team.
We can't focus Destiny what to play and what not to play, everyone has been in different moods to play games and sometimes need to take breaks from playing other games. But when Destiny said "umad" there was that hint of trolling I usually see from him.
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On February 16 2012 21:40 courtpanda wrote:
IMO
SC2 you can win with better macro.
LoL you have to outplay the other person.
or a better example: 1300 elo in LoL but diamond in SC2.
So would you say that the person who played with superior macro and won in the 1v1... wait for it... outplayed the other person?
That is of course completely disregarding the numerous games where the person with superior macro did in fact, not win, because perhaps he got... wait for it... outplayed?
I think there's arguments to be made on both sides, but I really just wanted to point out how silly your post was. The final comparison is hilarious as well, as if even if it had more context it would be meaningful(platinum in LoL, bronze in sc2??).
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All Destiny fans to understand something fundamental about him: he is not a pro player for the sake of pro playing, he is an entertainer. This can have both positive or negative connotations. Even still, if you don't believe just look at his youtube channel and you'll notice the massive numbers of videos involving him trolling or just messing around. This is a crowd pleaser, how he gained the fanbase he has without having won major tournaments.
Having a personality in the SC2 business earns you additional viewers and fans, whether you rage, you're a troll or you super polite (i.e. Sheth, Idra, HuK.)
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My point is that Destiny can say stuff like this and you need not get your panties in a twist. He is an entertainer and a troll. Don't need to prompt a huge argument about LoL versus Starcraft.
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Does destiny still stream? Ive checked his stream on and off for two weeks and dont see any activity.
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i don't understand why people even try to compare the two games...
compare lol and dota... OKAY
compare sc2 and sc:bw/aoe... OKAY
why the hell are we comparing lol and sc2 in the first place ROFL
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How about emailing teamliquid and own3d.tv asking why they support hate speech?
Destiny CONTINUES to use "gook, nigger, faggot" as of TODAY 5.9.2012 .. why are you giving him a platform to spew his hatred?
Does Own3d.tv and Teamliquid stand behind this kind of hate speech? Is this appropriate for a featured streamer on Own3d.tv and Teamliquid?
Please advise. [link to imgur]
Sent to pr@own3d.tv, partner@own3d.tv, sales@own3d.tv, teamliquid's contact us form (lol).
Anyone out there who feels this kind of language is unacceptable, please e-mail.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/te4ry/destiny_continues_to_use_gook_nigger_faggot_tl/
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Destiny takes pleasure in trolling. It is possible that he truly believes LoL takes more skill than SC2, but I am sure he just wanted to push some buttons in the chat when he said that. He is an entertainer. He has to say crazy shit sometimes to keep things interesting. I still love him. I love SC2 and don't care for LoL, but Destiny is one funny and entertaining motherfucker.
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