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My view regarding Destiny's latest statements

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FuxFux
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 16:12:14
February 07 2012 15:53 GMT
#1
Greetings TeamLiquid Community.

I think we are all a bit shocked about Destiny's statements of late.
Like many aspiring players in the SC2 scene, and no doubt, some of you reading this thread, I spent almost every night washing myself with the wisdom and knowledge he so generously bestowed upon us through his stream.

Who exactly is Destiny? Well, I can tell that he is a loving father and a good friend, as well as a very charismatic person, always passing his points and views with the up-most eloquence. However, what I learnt about him a few days ago, is that he is not a winner. Yes, it is possible to be a great guy, with a large set of skills, and still be a loser, a quitter.

What I felt when I heard Destiny's comparison of LoL to SC2, was more than heartbreak, I imagine that it is almost like what it must be to lose a great mentor, tutor, teacher and guardian. I felt like the great innovator who solidified the use of mass infestors in the StarCraft 2 scene is no more. And that feeling was not entirely wrong.

I think no person can really deny the fact that Destiny lost touch with his stream viewers. The past few months, he gradually became less talkative and explanatory to people who came to him for knowledge, and learning. It is like he turned into stone before my eyes.

Still, I must say that it is surprising and shocking to find that Destiny thinks an easy, straight forward and slow-paced game such as League of Legends takes more skill than StarCraft 2. This kind of statement is in no way the result of a clear and lucid thought process.

Destiny, I understand that it is hard for you. I understand that you find games like LoL an easy way out, an escape. We all know that StarCraft 2 is a hard and demanding game and that improving can sometimes feel like climbing up an extremely steep cliff.

But I do not understand how you can just give up like this. To publicly humiliate yourself by saying StarCraft 2 requires less skill than LoL? You could have quietly made the jump and switch to play only LoL and I would shed a few tears and go on with my life. But making this statement, I feel, is generally disrespecting the entire StarCraft 2 community, and specifically all the people who followed you vigorously.

A game that requires no skill such as LoL might make you feel relieved, you might feel good about yourself when you win matches. Owning noobs and what-not. But deluding yourself into believing you are actually playing a game superior to StarCraft 2 is unacceptable, and quite frankly, pathethic.

So, I just wanted to open this thread to share my discontempt with your statements, and to let you know that I have lost all respect for you. I know that I am but one fan you lost, so I decided to open it as a thread, to be able to gather the opinion of the rest of my (yes my, not your) community.

Even though I no longer respect you, I do hope you will be able to one day find redemption.

Here is an image featuring just a small fraction of his terrible statements:
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Darn
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:59:36
February 07 2012 15:55 GMT
#2
Still, I must say that it is surprising and shocking to find that Destiny thinks a noob oriented game such as League of Legends takes more skill than StarCraft 2. This kind of statement is in no way the result of a clear and lucid thought process.

Taking out the judgement hammer.

"Noob oriented game" is not really the kinda language that makes me follow your argument.
Edit: A link to the statement would be nice and I feel a little exposed as the first poster.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 07 2012 15:56 GMT
#3
......wait someone honestly thinks League of Legends is harder than SC2?
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 16:00:35
February 07 2012 15:56 GMT
#4
Could you at least give a link to these statements for those of us that haven't even heard about all this.
Also I'm not sure if this is just a (badly) disguised post to bash LoL/Destiny or something.
EDIT:
On February 08 2012 00:58 preddo wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree. Destiny lost my respect and appreciation.

This profile was just created today and says pretty much the same thing you do in that last part, suspicious?
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 07 2012 15:56 GMT
#5
could you atleast link us to this statement from destiny? I have no clue what you're talking about.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:57:36
February 07 2012 15:57 GMT
#6
Is this an intervention.
Steven we are all worried about you.

ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:58:38
February 07 2012 15:58 GMT
#7
[image loading]

His comments. I never watch Destiny's stream, but it sounds like Destiny is trolling to me. Also if he actually is switching to LoL then of course he would say something like this :p.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 07 2012 15:58 GMT
#8
On February 08 2012 00:53 FuxFux wrote:
Greetings TeamLiquid Community.

I think we are all a bit shocked about Destiny's statements of late.


That takes it a bit far.

I don't really care, for example, and I'm sure there are many who feel the same.

Leave him his opinion, if you disagree with it, it's fine, but let him go on the way he wants to.
preddo
Profile Joined February 2012
United States7 Posts
February 07 2012 15:58 GMT
#9
I wholeheartedly agree. Destiny lost my respect and appreciation.
Mathematics is not a spectator sport
Deleted User 109835
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
February 07 2012 15:59 GMT
#10
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DrAbuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany209 Posts
February 07 2012 15:59 GMT
#11
So is he actually going to switch over to LoL as his main-game or is this simply a thread where you whine about a statement? Please clarify.
eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/186292/1/DrAbuse/
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
February 07 2012 15:59 GMT
#12
Goody got him good at hsc, few stay the same or even sane after the Panzergeneral rolled over them...

in all honesty, Destiny was a good entertainer, hopefully he can gather a large enough fanbase in LoL to justify his switch.
Moliere
Profile Joined February 2011
51 Posts
February 07 2012 16:00 GMT
#13
Destiny isn't the only well-known/pro player that feels this way about SC2.
Nyctophobia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada99 Posts
February 07 2012 16:00 GMT
#14
If he's actually starting to give up on the game, that makes me really sad. Watching him beat Hasuobs and Mana in the IPL TAC2 was kind of special, to think that he was just some kid who randomly decided "hey I guess I could start streaming my games."
If you can chill, chill.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
February 07 2012 16:00 GMT
#15
Why does this even matter? I can't believe this even gets a thread. Destiny thinks a game is harder than Starcraft, better stop the planet from spinning. Even if he is trolling, who cares? zzzzz
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
February 07 2012 16:01 GMT
#16
comeon you made a so long post for such a little thing..
naut1c
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria100 Posts
February 07 2012 16:01 GMT
#17
Get over it, he was just hating. Sometimes haters gonna hate :p. His sc2 play still very entertaining
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 16:04:18
February 07 2012 16:02 GMT
#18
On February 08 2012 00:55 JOJOsc2news wrote:
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Still, I must say that it is surprising and shocking to find that Destiny thinks a noob oriented game such as League of Legends takes more skill than StarCraft 2. This kind of statement is in no way the result of a clear and lucid thought process.

Taking out the judgement hammer.

"Noob oriented game" is not really the kinda language that makes me follow your argument.
Edit: A link to the statement would be nice.


But it's exactly that. It's DotA made for casual players. Which means it takes away depth from the competitive play as well.

And while you can definitely say that mechanically Dota games don't require nearly as much, the team communication/coordination is something that's not at all present in SC2. So comparing those two games is quite complex... and probably pointless.

edit: Also

On February 08 2012 00:53 FuxFux wrote:
Greetings TeamLiquid Community.

I think we are all a bit shocked about Destiny's statements of late.


you do realize that we don't all watch Destiny's stream and care about what he says?
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
February 07 2012 16:03 GMT
#19
I used to watch Destiny. Then I kept seeing (LoL) next to his name in the stream list. And I even tried ot watc hthat, because as an entertainer, Destiny used to be top-notch.

LoL is complete crap though. Not only does it look like pure crap, but it plays like a kindergarten flash game that someone added some "strategic elements" too. It's about as deep as CoD.
VidyaYuropa
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
87 Posts
February 07 2012 16:04 GMT
#20
I hope for you this is a terrible troll (not that destiny said that, but the need for a whole thread)

If this isnt a troll.... then.... why do i even try :/
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