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On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question.
Why do you think I'm not willing to put in effort? You also flip flop from that I'm eager to find scum and null with being ok to lynch me. I don't like this play at all.
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@Palmar // @Radfield
Stop A. Posting badly anti-town posts.
Stop B. Lurking to avoid dying to mafia day 1.
If you post bad, I don't think its going to fool the mafia into thinking you're a really bad player Palmar. At least if they've played with you before, and I'm pretty sure most here have.
Radfield, if you die without giving any information its worse then giving some information and then dieing. Look at yourself like a vanilla townie, your soaking up hits for the blues.
You both may or may not get Medic protection even, because your both good vets. So please start posting and giving us your reads. I hate this bad posting day 1 and I realize there isn't a huge amount of information out there right now, but come on give us some information. TBH I might be happy lynching either of you. I hate this style your playing and it only benefits mafia.
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On February 07 2012 09:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's all good - hopefully we lynch into my list and prove you wrong =D
On Sheth, I agree that he hasn't contributed much outside his initial bout of posts, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it scummy just yet. His posts left me with a feeling that he's eager to find scum, whether he was capable of doing so at the time or not. Tentatively I have a null read on Sheth, but if he doesn't come in here and show that he's willing to put in effort to actually do something, I'm totally okay with lynching Sheth. No question. Why do you think I'm not willing to put in effort? You also flip flop from that I'm eager to find scum and null with being ok to lynch me. I don't like this play at all.
I never said you're not willing to put in effort. I said IF you're not willing to put in effort, then your lynch has my approval. While I got you here though, who do you think is scum and why? All this Batman talk is fascinating, but we DO have to lynch today ya? Who should it be?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +My self imposed vow of silence is now over 
OK Sheth, that's all fine and dandy, but who do you want to lynch and why? Also, I enjoyed your streaming this afternoon
Palmar: Toad, VE, Kitaman, what are your thoughts on them.
I don't think VE is a great lynch today. His scum play is fairly transparent(no offense meant VE  ), and his town play is pretty straight forward. Lynching him Day 1 is not optimal. In resistance he was fairly obviously town by Day 2, and in XLVIII he was mostly exposed scum by late Day 2. No rush.
Bill, where did you go? Still think Kenpachi is our best Day 1 lynch? You have to admit it's a bit ironic that you called him out for claiming green.... when it's something you've most certainly done before on Day 1.
CyberCheese, now that you've successfully deduced the best plan forward for the third party situation, who would you like to lynch?
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ok I back. quick response time
On February 07 2012 08:29 Toadesstern wrote:
mh I can't find something that's standing out in dr h's filter. He does talk a lot about batman and isn't really talking about anything else. That's obviously very easy for mafia to do and he could easily look towny / not lurky doing so without posting "wrong" things. But we got that a lot right now. He's a null for me right now.
Please tell me how this makes sense:
"I see nothing in Dr. H's filter"
"except this one thing that he said town shouldn't do but he does anyway and scum would definitely do"
"but that's nothing cause we have a lot of it so he's null"
da fak
On February 07 2012 08:29 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd much rather see people like CC, maybe layabout or if we got noone else to lynch Palmar / Kenpachi lynched right now.
I can't help it (I can't even explain it) but I just don't get the same "stubborn" read on palmar that I had on him last game but that might as well be him getting used to this situation and therefore he might not be as emotional as last few games.
So the person you want to lynch at last resort you give reasoning for, but you give 0 reason to lynch CC or layabout, who you would "much rather" see lynched? Once again, da fak?
On February 07 2012 08:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Needledickthebugfucker (yeah totally going to use that one Jackal :p ), why are you requesting me to do analyses? I thought you think I'm useless not to begin with the fact that you haven't done shit yourself?
I asked because opinions about people I currently am forming reads about are useful in actually finding scum. Such as, for example, you. You are proving so for to not only be useless, but in a manner that is consistent with a scum who does not have opinions and is struggling to find them under pressure. Why else would you flop around and then basically as me why I'm pressuring you? Your responses so far have been utter bullshit.
##vote Toadesstern
gonna read what I missed now, be back soon.
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You are proving so far to not only be useless, but in a manner that is consistent with a scum who does not have opinions and is struggling to find them under pressure.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Bugs, I thought you wanted to talk about DocH(who looks fine and is certainly not on the table for today) and katina.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo pimmelz when i get out og class i better see some thoughts on dr h and katina kk?
ily all much love got quantum now byebye
What did you honestly expect people to write about katina?
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I somewhat agree on Toad, he is tickling my senses.
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On February 07 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:Before proceeding, I have encountered Kenpachi in Mafia L. He did not claim townie at the start. Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote:On February 06 2012 22:35 Forumite wrote:Stealthvote detected! On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth. Did you read the rest of that post? For your benefit: On February 06 2012 22:10 -_-Quails wrote: rg's posts were far scummier though. He attacked using reasoning provided by someone else plus weirdness about RVS and this quote: On February 06 2012 17:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Explicit reasons: Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do. Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious. Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia Please explain what you're meaning about quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia. I did not recycle any Sheth opinions, except from the fact that I think that VT claiming is bad. I provided my own arguments in that as blue it would make no sense, he sticks out and if he's scum he has a high chance of being the GF, thus the utility of the claim. Plus, he knows his own meta well, so why not do this?. He'll be overlooked, then DT's will perhaps check him if they read the thread closely. Now, you Mr, you first stealthvote, to bolster a wagon. Definitively not random, and not on a lurker. That smells red. Then you basically sheep after CC, who said what you state ages before you. You give Objective/Subjective sides, yet they differ in 1, 1 single statement: Schworz reacted in a way that raised my hackles. USELESSYou are trying to hide, you are trying to look like you contribute without doing so. You, sir are Scum
You will notice that my vote was acknowledged to have not been a stealthvote once my post had been reread by Forumite. I clearly stated that I was suspicious of you before voting. In the future, to make this clearer, I will post my vote in this thread as well as the voting thread.
Fakeclaiming early D1 is null, the only useful thing that can come of it is reactions. It can be done by anyone with any role. You get more interesting reactions when people fakeclaim daypowers.
It sure felt like you were recycling opinions. Raising my hackles means that your posts felt scummy to me, with this post (which is basically OMGUS) you do nothing to change my feeling.
Reason 3: player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia
You knowing KP is green meaning that the mafia know he's green is only true if you're mafia.
I'm good with leaving VE alive for today if they become obv[alignment] on second days.
This game will be so much easier to get a handle on D2 when some people are dead.
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@Liquid'Sheth
Your first argument is WIFOM, as is mine to be honest. But mafia are the only party that needs to be so defensive and when players start defending eachother like that, it makes me more confident that my initial hunches might be correct. It's just Day 1 and I'm not coming out saying "Gotcha!" with any sense of serious confidence.
I don't disagree that it is a stupid thing that Kenpachi does.
Your point about Batman is incorrect. Perhaps you don't fully understand the game mechanics. Hopefully this is the last time I have to explain this.
Firstly, Batman has an unblockable detective power. It is immune to GF powers. Secondly, he has an unblockable hit, however it will not kill players with the veteran role. It tells him with 100% confidence except in the case, I assume, of millers (who won't show up as hugo/joker anyway) who the person is. It's not "a little bit of detecting then shooting suspects", when he finds the joker or hugo he KNOWS who they are and will hit them the next night.
If Batman shoots before detecting, he has a low chance of killing either The Joker or Hugo Strange. If he kills a non-Hugo mafia, he gives town a huge advantage. If he kills a town player, he gives the mafia a moderate advantage. Continuing to shoot like this is bad for Batman, because if either Town OR Mafia win before he does, Batman loses the game. He does not win if town wins. He also does not win if Mafia wins.
The only time Batman might use his KP before DT is if one side has an overwhelming advantage and he thinks he can delay the end of the game. Offering up the Joker does not prevent him from shooting more townsfolk, because he has no incentive to do this. Also if he shoots randomly or on his own hunches, he still has as much chance as a town aligned vig does of killing a scum player.
It has nothing to do with knowing where people are. Batman (same rules go for Catwoman) has no reason to care who anyone is except for the Joker and Hugo Strange. By offering Batman the joker, we're giving him an early town kill and we might be able to win the game before he gets any town kills or at least have Joker survive long enough to use his hit and be successful with it. It is not in Batman's interest to shoot randomly or to shoot into people he thinks are red/blue because it increases the likelihood that the game ends before he wins. The best scenario for Batman is one in which the mafia hit the Joker early and he only has to find Hugo, or where we lynch Hugo early and he only has to find the Joker. Hopefully, for us, he looks for Hugo first but even if he starts out looking for the Joker, he's just going to be DTing and there's nothing we can really do about it. Giving him the Joker isn't a solution to any problem.
Moving on to Cyber_Cheese:
Cyber_Cheese's points about Catwoman are wrong. Or maybe it was Tunkeg? Someone said "catwoman should just shoot the most pro-town people", that's not true either. Catwoman should DT until she finds her target then kill them. She doesn't win with scum. If scum win before two-face/penguin are dead then Catwoman loses. Shooting the most pro-town looking people will probably just result in red and green deaths. If you even broadcast that advice or assumption why would two-face and the penguin put themselves in the spotlight? Now Catwoman is in a WIFOM situation where she has to guess what her target is thinking and shooting randomly is unsafe, puts her at a higher risk of losing the game. With the combined full force KP of batman/catwoman/mafia all shooting into "town" (except batman/catwoman don't know who town is, although you guys seem pretty confident they will know implicitly) the game will likely end with scum winning and town with both third parties losing. I'm not going to crunch numbers because I can't do math but I'm guessing of at least one of each candidate surviving to endgame in this scenario are pretty high. I hope that clears things up. I think Cyber_Cheese is either mafia or, more obviously, Batman. I don't know why I didn't put it together before but the player trying to get the Joker offered up scot free with no clear pro-town motives seems like a pretty good bet for me. If he's not third party or scum I'd be pretty shocked. Can anyone link me to some games in which Cyber_Cheese was a town aligned player in memory?
After looking at that I might switch votes. I dislike voting for players who attack me because I am very defensive and often in mafia games I get tunnel vision when I'm attacked. But just as often as I've been wrong, I've been right and ever since letting Pandain slip through my grasp in Insane Mafia I've tried to be more confident.
@Radfield
Asking other people questions and agreeing with WBG doesn't count for much. You were like this in Salem and don't think I'll forget THAT travesty anytime soon.
WBG's analysis is okay. Toadesstern should flesh his thoughts out more but I don't think it's particularly scummy. I still believe town players are more likely to second guess themselves or post logical errors than mafia players are. Mafia players have the advantage of information and teamwork, town is uncoordinated and in the dark. I don't think he necessarily contradicted himself talking about me, it seems like he's saying it's the kind of thing that could go either way so it's just inconclusive.
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The scenario in which it does make sense for Batman or Catwoman to shoot without a conclusive DT check is late-late-late game just before the next day is LYLO or during LYLO. That is when you can't afford to use a DT check because if you don't hit that same night or the next night you will lose. We aren't in this situation so giving up any town player on day 1 (if it's even legal, still need an answer on that) isn't something we should be thinking about at all.
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On February 07 2012 13:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The scenario in which it does make sense for Batman or Catwoman to shoot without a conclusive DT check is late-late-late game just before the next day is LYLO or during LYLO. That is when you can't afford to use a DT check because if you don't hit that same night or the next night you will lose. We aren't in this situation so giving up any town player on day 1 (if it's even legal, still need an answer on that) isn't something we should be thinking about at all.
Just to make it clear, I was only suggesting that it might be wise to give up Joker, if Batman manages to kill Hugo. Not even saying its the best idea for sure, but if we did that, he'd not be forced to shoot into town if were nearing late game.
I didn't realize how important the DT'ing would be, but yes your way does make more sense. In that after thinking about it more, Batman will very likely DT instead of just shooting. Thanks for explaining it for me, I really just didn't get why he would, but now I do.
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rgTheScum
On February 07 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Before proceeding, I have encountered Kenpachi in Mafia L. He did not claim townie at the start.
This is wrong. Can't tell if it's a lie or just straight up retardedness, but this is plain wrong.
On January 14 2012 07:22 Kenpachi wrote:
game started: a million pages.
hi guys im Kenpachi and im a townie 4 rela
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=39#769
On February 06 2012 22:51 -_-Quails wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:35 Forumite wrote:Stealthvote detected! On February 06 2012 22:21 -_-Quails wrote:
##vote rgTheSchworz Qualis, please explain your reasoning for voting for Schworz without mentioning it in here, especially since the only FoS I´ve seen from you is on Sheth. Did you read the rest of that post? For your benefit: Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 22:10 -_-Quails wrote: rg's posts were far scummier though. He attacked using reasoning provided by someone else plus weirdness about RVS and this quote: On February 06 2012 17:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I personally doubt that he's a blue trying to hide by claiming green, so scum know his role already. Explicit reasons: Objective: rgTheSchworz recycled an argument in order to attack KenPatchi. This is not a pro-town thing to do. Subjective: rgTheSchworz reacted to the vanilla claim in a way that raised my hackles, as did Sheth but Sheth used his own reasoning rather than recycling and so is less suspicious. Objective: That quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia
Please explain what you're meaning about quote. player A knows -> mafia knows -> player A is mafia.
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I did not recycle any Sheth opinions, except from the fact that I think that VT claiming is bad.
I provided my own arguments in that as blue it would make no sense, he sticks out and if he's scum he has a high chance of being the GF, thus the utility of the claim. Plus, he knows his own meta well, so why not do this?. He'll be overlooked, then DT's will perhaps check him if they read the thread closely.
You think that claiming VT is bad.
Explain how claiming VT is indicative of alignment (more specifically, indicative of being scum?)
I like how you are heavily casting suspicion on Kenpachi but at no point do you actually say that claiming VT is scummy, you call it "bad" and then claim that if he's gf it's somehow advantageous for him to claim vt.
if he was GF why would he bring attention to himself day 1 by claiming?
You can actually construct any sort of conclusion you want from the information you're using. The fact that you're selectively only choosing the scum possibility is indicative of a stretched argument. You're stretching hard to try and say kenpachi is scum when your only reasoning is that he claimed VT.
Now, you Mr, you first stealthvote, to bolster a wagon. Definitively not random, and not on a lurker.
That smells red.
Then you basically sheep after CC, who said what you state ages before you. You give Objective/Subjective sides, yet they differ in 1, 1 single statement: Schworz reacted in a way that raised my hackles. USELESS
You are trying to hide, you are trying to look like you contribute without doing so.
You, sir are Scum
this is irony in its true form.
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
WHAAAAAAT??. No contradiction buddy,
Lemme explain better: He claims green. This is sub-sub-optimal blue play, as it puts him into spotlight too early and is basically useless. He could as well stay hidden.
What? Your "let me explain better" is still just regurgitated trash.
How is an auto-green claim on day 1 suboptimal for a blue? Or a green? Or anyone for that matter?
You never say how Kenpachi auto-claiming green is in any way indicative of his alignment. Literally anyone can do what he does How does that make what he did good or bad, regardless of alignment or role?
Most importantly, how does it make him likely to be scum?
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
So, either he's green or scum- at least that's what I think
WOW that's insightful.
He's either green or scum guys!
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Either way, scum know his role. They know that he's not lying about being green or they know he's scum and perhaps the GF himself. Why else claim green?
What in the fuck?
If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS.
jesus. To all of us, it's not alignment/role indicative. He could be anything, yet you think he's scum just because you wouldn't do what he did.
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Either way, Town has to lose from his claim.
Really? You keep fear mongering with this shit, but at no point do you explain.
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:I'm not advocating a straight-away lynch, we still have time to debate.
You're not advocating his immediate lynch because:
1. you're scum
2. you already know his alignment because of #1
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3. because of 1 and 2, you're scared shitless to actually push what you know is a terrible case to fruition because you will receive suspicion if kenpachi is lynched.
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
But a first vote is completely justified, it will certainly make scum take a stance instead of sitting around while you lazy-asses talk about Batman
I have yet to see this justification.
On February 06 2012 17:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Batman doesn't help town. He has to kill ONE scum only. Why would he scumhunt once the Joker is dead?
He won't. He'll sit back, trying to apear moderately town, while he's DT-ing ppl who look scummy. Then he'll kill Hugo once he finds him. He won't scumhunt.
He'll manhunt
Didn't you JUST say we're wasting time discussing batman?
On February 06 2012 17:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Scum know that he's not lying . We can't know that.
It's a random vote. Random votes don't help scum. They help us get info from reactions to that random vote
I can't possibly know at this stage if Kenpachi is scum, but I voted him to get things going.
you didn't "randomly" vote kenpachi at all.
You voted kenpachi because he was an easy vote based on him claiming town. You know that if you receive pressure for voting kenpachi you can claim it was just pressure and then change your vote with no real consequence later because "it wasn't serious; it was random"
So then why bother to try and call kenpachi scum if your vote is random? Your vote wasn't random at all. It was poorly calculated, sure, but you thought you could get away with it.
On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.
Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.
For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.
Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.
I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions. This post is an atrocity. RANDOM VOTING STAGE? REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time) Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc. From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool . Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything. Then why do you claim town? To look interesting? I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here. You get all jittery and angry when I vote you. FoS : KenpachiAlso ##UnvoteGuess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe. RVS over. I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking. Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post
This is the post that made me LOL really hard.
So, you continue with the "it was a random vote lul" shit and then put a FoS on kenpachi after voting him, then unvote him in the same post (the fuck?).
You say your own vote was random, contrary to what other people believe...has anyone else actually even said anything about it yet?
And lastly, you say your point was to stop people from discussing setup talking. Really? So you admit it wasn't to catch scum?
You have no vested interest in catching scum. Stopping setup talk is not a priority unless you are actively pushing the discussion in a direction that favors scumhunting. Instead, you're just trying to look town by saying "we need to stop talking about batman" after other people have already said it 100 times. At no point do you actually scumhunt, despite at first pretending like you were scumhunting. The funniest part about all of this is that you actually pretended to scumhunt at first, and then as it was clear that some people were saying "stop talking about batman/the setup" you jump on that wagon and claim your vote was "random" and its sole purpose was to stop 'needless setup discussion."
rg needs to die. READ HIS POSTS PEOPLE.
##unvote
##vote rgTheSchworz
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On February 07 2012 11:17 Radfield wrote:Bugs, I thought you wanted to talk about DocH(who looks fine and is certainly not on the table for today) and katina. + Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo pimmelz when i get out og class i better see some thoughts on dr h and katina kk?
ily all much love got quantum now byebye What did you honestly expect people to write about katina? __ I somewhat agree on Toad, he is tickling my senses.
I disagree with you, but I operate on a need-to-know basis when it comes to scumhunting.
Let me put it this way: If I told you what I expect to hear from people regarding questions I ask about players (about, for example, Dr. H or Katina, or Toad), wouldn't that defeat the purpose of asking them in the first place? I'd just be seeding the thread with my own thoughts and then other players, particularly good scum (and bad townies) would just end up feeding me what I want to hear based on what I've already said.
That's why, for now, I just want to hear thoughts on those players.
The exception for now is rg, because I have absolutely no problem about killing him.
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WBG that was on point, pushing the easiest lynch with no commitment, wishy washy, good call. Voting RG.
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wow WBG is going hard
I have to read from where I posted last, but I don't know if I will be able to at the moment
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I think RTG is town....only because I liked his first few posts this game even though a few people jumped on him. Just sayin. I was mafia last game with him. But I really need to catch up. That fuckin bastard penguin blew the bridge and left me over here with these ass hole joker inmates....I'ma fucking kill that fat fuck when I get back to the museum.
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Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we?
I am not talkinng setup anymore, if you haven't realised that.
I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize.
Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them.
Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone.
So why keep my vote on Kenpachi?
He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that.
How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I?
By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate.
If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS.
This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum.
I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim.
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Curu or I will get around to posting an updated vote list sometime in the morning or afternoon. Day will end at 11pm est.
This is 21 hours and 10 minutes from now roughly.
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On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we? I am not talkinng setup anymore, if you haven't realised that. I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize. Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them. Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone. So why keep my vote on Kenpachi? He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that. How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I? By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate. Show nested quote +If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS. This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum. I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim.
So basically you're apologising for not checking his filter, and you still don't actually have a reason to have voted?
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On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Let's all claim green btw, to see if it helps town.Shall we?
Let's follow the logic train here...
imagine everyone claims VT.
Does that indicate anything about anyone's alignment?
Now, knowing that, why again are you using the fact that kenpachi claimed green to call him scum? (oh but you backed off...hmmm)
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I think you understand quite clearly what I meant, but are so stubborn/stupid not to reconize.
Look, ppl are still talking Setup/Strat, things on which you cannot accuse anyone, because bad plans may just as well be bad townies' brainchildren. And bad townies abund, WBG you are one of them.
So you know these people are bad townies already?
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Repeat, for the last damn time: Voting kenpachi was a Random vote/Pressure Vote-For just claiming townie D1, I cannot hope to reasonably accuse someone.
Because you can't scumhunt day 1?
You don't even seem to want to try to scumhunt.
I also addressed why you calling the kenpachi vote a "random vote" is a copout of responsibility.
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:
So why keep my vote on Kenpachi?
He's responded, some say in his trademark fashion, I have thrown my ideas around, but it seems Kenpachi's meta looks just like that.
How could I miss a pg39 post of 2 lines in a Mafia L thread that had 160+ pages?Seriously, how could I?
By posting like I did, I hoped to attract some attention, maybe some votes on me.But what I did not expect was no lynch candidate after 24+ hours, and now I am myself a lynch candidate.
So, you expected some votes, but some votes make you a lynch candidate?
You're not making any sense. If you expected to receive votes, that means you knew you'd appear scummy. Why the fuck as town would you plan on looking scummy?
Again you make no sense. You received a few votes, apparently as you expected. If it wouldn't have made you a lynch candidate in your imagination, how does the current reality make you a lynch candidate?
It's either one or the other, it can't be both, and you certainly aren't helping yourself or anyone else if you're town and you think you can't scumhunt day 1.
If Kenpachi is scum how do they know his role? He could be really a green. He could really be a blue. HIS CLAIM SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HE IS.
This bit shows your stupidity or that you joined my wagon in a hurry. If Kenpachi is scum, scum obv know who is scum.[/quote]
rofl.
Once again, how does kenpachi claiming green tell scum what his role is?
On February 07 2012 15:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I'll not defend myself further.Waste of time. If, at the end of D1, they're still votes piling on me, I'll straight out claim.
lol.
so you're just gonna keep derping instead?
If you're town, why don't you actually do something instead of being emo? At this point, though, I actually doubt you're town. You don't defend yourself and you don't scumhunt either (you straight up said you expect us to lynch a townie day 1.)
If you're actually town and you come in expecting to lynch a townie, you need to shape up and reevaluate your play right the hell now, since you're just bringing us all down if you're going to go down without actually doing anything.
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I see Cyber_Cheese was reading the thread closely enough to throw in his 2 cents on the RG lynch but not enough to respond to me after I call him out for his ridiculous catwoman accusation and anti-town plan?
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