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On February 07 2012 19:44 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 19:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 07 2012 19:27 Toadesstern wrote:
not sure yet. Probably someone out of CC / layabout. If neither of those 2 is going to be an option I'd be happy to lynch BM / Kenpachi / Palmar instead. There have been a few cases laid out, put a little more thought into it. Town doesn't win without some serious thought. It's a team effort. You can make statements like this all game as mafia, it's too safe. Let's talk BM. Make a case for his lynch. If you're "happy" to lynch him you must feel pretty good that he's scum right? Seems like you're not really invested in who gets lynched. Uninterested. That's not good. Yeah I've got the bad habbit of stopping to work when I'm told that I'm useless. Hapnned last game too. I did big ass analyses about Sandroba and everyone ignored them telling me I'm doing bullshit. I figured I could give you at least a couple of names instead of explaining this time so that should make people happy and you're able to tell if I'm mafia or not depending on the flips. I for example don't like rad because of his list (VE, Kita, myself). I don't have to talk about myself, Kita looks town to me and VE is leaning town for me but I'm not sure there yet. Easy shit. On the BM matter: BM / Kenpachi / Palmar are the 3 people I'd like to see lynch if we can't one of CC / layabout lynched. I think layabout and especially CC are more likely to flip mafia (or badman / catwoman).
If people don't think you're useful, prove them wrong.
Flips are helpful but that won't tell me if you're mafia or not. Especially when you throw in votes/FOS with no explanation or thought, I learn nothing. Mafia players will FOS and vote for other mafia players. It's pretty rare I think that a mafia team don't have some staged confrontations in the thread.
Saying "I'd like to lynch one of these three" is not an acceptable reason. Why Bill Murray or Palmar over anybody else? Why Cyber_Cheese or layabout over anybody else for that matter?
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On February 07 2012 20:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 19:44 Toadesstern wrote:On February 07 2012 19:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 07 2012 19:27 Toadesstern wrote:
not sure yet. Probably someone out of CC / layabout. If neither of those 2 is going to be an option I'd be happy to lynch BM / Kenpachi / Palmar instead. There have been a few cases laid out, put a little more thought into it. Town doesn't win without some serious thought. It's a team effort. You can make statements like this all game as mafia, it's too safe. Let's talk BM. Make a case for his lynch. If you're "happy" to lynch him you must feel pretty good that he's scum right? Seems like you're not really invested in who gets lynched. Uninterested. That's not good. Yeah I've got the bad habbit of stopping to work when I'm told that I'm useless. Hapnned last game too. I did big ass analyses about Sandroba and everyone ignored them telling me I'm doing bullshit. I figured I could give you at least a couple of names instead of explaining this time so that should make people happy and you're able to tell if I'm mafia or not depending on the flips. I for example don't like rad because of his list (VE, Kita, myself). I don't have to talk about myself, Kita looks town to me and VE is leaning town for me but I'm not sure there yet. Easy shit. On the BM matter: BM / Kenpachi / Palmar are the 3 people I'd like to see lynch if we can't one of CC / layabout lynched. I think layabout and especially CC are more likely to flip mafia (or badman / catwoman). If people don't think you're useful, prove them wrong.
nice typo :p
But yeah, that's not going to work either. I'm not someone within the magic cycle of vets people listen to and therefore my opinion is of no value to those people unless it's strange for some reason. Even if I end up delivering mafia after mafia people will only tell me I'm suspicious because I'm right way too much and because after being told I'm useless I'm robbing it in their faces, which does look kinda scummy.
I'm not going to talk to a wall and pretend it's listening.
Hey there wbg. Last game you were overeager to get palmar lynched because he was useles and only posting troll bullshit.
What's different this game? I agree that it's different this game but shouldn't that make you lynch Palmar even more given that he flipped town last game?
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On February 07 2012 20:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 20:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 07 2012 19:44 Toadesstern wrote:On February 07 2012 19:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 07 2012 19:27 Toadesstern wrote:
not sure yet. Probably someone out of CC / layabout. If neither of those 2 is going to be an option I'd be happy to lynch BM / Kenpachi / Palmar instead. There have been a few cases laid out, put a little more thought into it. Town doesn't win without some serious thought. It's a team effort. You can make statements like this all game as mafia, it's too safe. Let's talk BM. Make a case for his lynch. If you're "happy" to lynch him you must feel pretty good that he's scum right? Seems like you're not really invested in who gets lynched. Uninterested. That's not good. Yeah I've got the bad habbit of stopping to work when I'm told that I'm useless. Hapnned last game too. I did big ass analyses about Sandroba and everyone ignored them telling me I'm doing bullshit. I figured I could give you at least a couple of names instead of explaining this time so that should make people happy and you're able to tell if I'm mafia or not depending on the flips. I for example don't like rad because of his list (VE, Kita, myself). I don't have to talk about myself, Kita looks town to me and VE is leaning town for me but I'm not sure there yet. Easy shit. On the BM matter: BM / Kenpachi / Palmar are the 3 people I'd like to see lynch if we can't one of CC / layabout lynched. I think layabout and especially CC are more likely to flip mafia (or badman / catwoman). If people don't think you're useful, prove them wrong. nice typo :p But yeah, that's not going to work either. I'm not someone within the magic cycle of vets people listen to and therefore my opinion is of no value to those people unless it's strange for some reason. Even if I end up delivering mafia after mafia people will only tell me I'm suspicious because I'm right way too much and because after being told I'm useless I'm robbing it in their faces, which does look kinda scummy. I'm not going to talk to a wall and pretend it's listening. Hey there wbg. Last game you were overeager to get palmar lynched because he was useles and only posting troll bullshit. What's different this game? I agree that it's different this game but shouldn't that make you lynch Palmar even more given that he flipped town last game?
Why are you dodging most of his post? He asked you for reasons for the people you're FoSing, and you're just talking about how people don't respect your opinion. It's hard for anyone to take your accusations seriously or consider your posts useful when you're just naming names, and dodging when people ask for reasons.
Again, what's your reason for FoS on the names you mentioned? It just looks like a random list at the moment.
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WBG, rg looks bad, he´s definetly still on the scumlist, but I´ve changed my mind about him since voting. His "scumslip" was a weak case to begin with, and not even voting Kenpachi or lying about making a random vote on Kenpachi is really enough to lynch on. I´m leaning Newbie Town on him right now.
##unvote: rgTheSchworz
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screw it, I'll read the thread. brb.
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On February 07 2012 21:13 Palmar wrote:
screw it, I'll read the thread. brb.
and you guys are telling me I need to tell you why I don't have problems to lynch Palmar / BM / Kenpachi?
I can't explain it because there's just not much there but all 3 are bad right now and I'd much rather lynch them than lynching a lurker. CC / laya > Palmar/BM/Kenpachi > Lurker should be the priority of lynches imo
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On February 07 2012 21:13 Palmar wrote:
screw it, I'll read the thread. brb.
Giddy up cowboy.
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Warning: this is written as I read, so expect it to be a bit confusing.
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On February 06 2012 15:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 15:35 Bill Murray wrote:
I disagree with you. Sheth was questioning the validity of claiming there. It truly is weak play. It's like leaving a zealot on the wrong side of the map, out of the equation, when you're going into battle.
However, there is another side to WIFOM, but are both glasses poisoned? So, Bill -- Zealots on the wrong side of the map are good. They are like little scouting strong pillars of Zerg death. Zealots are never on the wrong side of the map. Does this mean you are calling yourself a zealot? And would you be up for poisoning yourself? Considering if you don't drink from either of the glasses you would probably die of thirst. In the case that either way you die, would you drink both glasses to have a quicker death? Or would you only drink one and not overdose on the poison in hopes you may be saved? I think these bring up valid questions. And I hope you will feel my play isn't weak after this.
This exchange is 100% bullshit. I remember sheth bullshitting quite hard when he was mafia last time, being a lot more reserved whenever I've played with him as town. Maybe we should lynch him.
Regarding the rgthewhatever, I don't think he's mafia. His initial post is way too straightforward, to the point and assertive for him to be scum in my opinion. i think any train on him would be a terrible idea. He's bringing in the idea of a random voting stage, where you pick up something tiny, and run with it to start discussion. It's a terrible idea and it's dumb. But it's very unlikely it makes him scum automatically like some of you are trying to imply.
I'll show you an example of a weak opening post:
On February 06 2012 18:17 Toadesstern wrote:here I am. Should have waited 5 minutes longer yesterday and I could have instavoted wbg to begin this game  At least I got that little smiley to annoy him. On a more serious note: I don't like people talking about claims d1. That's kenpachi (nothing new there, noone likes Kenpachi...) and Cyber_Cheese right now I think. Actually especially Cyber_Cheese. Why do you think we need to talk about blues so early on, make them / one claim early on to get another "blue" (batman) buffed although we don't know what he's up to yet. Are you trying to get some information and read into what people are saying about that topic to figure out if they're blue or not while talking about that topic? Because that's what I thought right now.
This says nothing about Toadesstern's alignment. It doesn't make him scum, but i think rgTS's posts at least look like he came into the thread trying to achieve something. This doesn't.
Tunkeg's probably town. DrH has only posted useless stuff so far, no idea what he is.
On February 06 2012 19:30 ico wrote:
irst, Kenpachi claiming town on day 1 is bad play, no matter his actual role.
If he indeed does this every game, he deserves to be policy lynched until he stops doing so.
Best post in the thread.
Bill Murray is being wrong/useless a lot. No idea what to make of it.
Adam's reasoning for voting jaybrundage is rock solid and I like it.
On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!
##Vote: jaybrundage
Kurumi is hilarious as usual, keeping him around is good for entertainment value.
OpZ is playing? I hadn't noticed. Maybe we should just hang him. In addition, a wild Kita appeared, he looks less scummy though. Also, VisceraEyes is seriously weak a this point.
layabout could be town.
On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:First of all ##Unvote: kitaman27Now for the good stuff. VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracylayabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either. Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something. kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today. Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick. So, there you have it. ##Vote: layabout
Disagree on all accounts. All the reads are null or town to me in this post, and also, I am correct.
On February 07 2012 10:43 Radfield wrote:
Palmar: Toad, VE, Kitaman, what are your thoughts on them.
Why the fuck do you want to talk to me? I'm trolling at this point.
I'm just gonna hit post and then collect what's important at this point.
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So a quick glance at the playerlist leaves me with this.
If you did not make the list it's because your posts have been boring and/or I don't know you. This means you need to post more before I kill you. And don't post dumb shit.
Funny
Kurumi
ico
Towny
layabout
Tunkeg
Adam1337 (I changed your number to a cool one).
rgTheSwhcorszioajsd
Dumb
Bill Murray
Wherebugsgo
Scummy
VisceraEyes
Hiro Protagonist
Sheth
Whatever, not my problem:
Jackal58
Radfield
GET THE CANNON
Kenpachi
Wait what? is he playing?
chaoser
kitaman27
Opz
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lol, DocH is not on the list because all he's posted is completely irrelevant.
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We should totally be discussing lynching Hiro, VE or Sheth. At the moment, I'm leaning towards lynching sheth. I see no reason to believe he's town this game. He's posting speculations and questions, mostly just useless fluff, and there is nothing to it that gives me any feeling he could be town.
It's too careful, and too forced.
##Vote Sheth
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On February 07 2012 21:52 Palmar wrote:
lol, DocH is not on the list because all he's posted is completely irrelevant.
Are you trying to bait me into getting offended? You should go back to shitposting instead, you're actually good at that.
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mmmh. Agree with everyone but VE and layabout on palmars list. Your no longer on my d1 scummy list palmar!
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I know, I'm good at everything, so by extension I'm good at shitposting.
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Also:
Show nested quote +On February 07 2012 18:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar:
name someone you want to lynch today.
I take it you're doing the same bullshit wbg does since I did not make it to your list?
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Well, you could go into the dumb category in theory, but reading the thread, I sort-of forgot about you, all that really stood out to me was your opening post.
It's irrelevant now, not to mention if you actually agree with what I think it's less likely you're scum.
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Your trolling isn't funny or cute and it makes games annoying to play in for everybody else. Grow up.
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I'd like to hear why you think layabout is town Palmar. Not sure if you're going to reply but I might as well just try and post a bit:
He either does posts like this:
+ Show Spoiler [useless bullshit that mafia can do wit…] +On February 07 2012 02:32 layabout wrote:
please be civil children On February 07 2012 01:45 layabout wrote:
Kita, how can batman claim his hits without claiming and being modkilled?
+ there has been a lot of discussion about very little, please cut it out. On February 07 2012 02:56 layabout wrote:
lets all vote for no good reason!
or he defends Kenpachi. Sure Kenpachi does this shit everytime and it's nothing special at all but mafia could easily do that as well looking pro town + I don't mind Kenpachi being lynched / shot at all. It's not like we're going to get a better read on him in the next couple of days.
Next thing he does is his picture post:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:if anybody need help organising their thoughts i have a pretty useful MS paint template: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q9mkP.png)
Next time defending risk.nuke:
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sure looks nice but again. Saying people look townie is the easiest thing to do as mafia. The only thing that looks townish is the bare effort of linking those 6 games but well, you know me, I'm not going to read something into that :p
Next one is a response to VE that's a null and his last post is a CC-Vote.
The only things that make him look townie is that fact that VE "found" him and him voting CC. Other than that I see nothing within his posts that could make you think he's townie. Want to explain why you think he's a townie?
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He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.
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On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.
yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.
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