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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 07 2012 13:45 GMT
#481
Why should he not defend risk.nuke? Was not everything he said factually correct? In addition, his reckless and sometimes bad posting is done in a way that seems to have very little fear of getting hanged. This is why I have a town read on him at the moment.
Computer says mafia
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 13:46 GMT
#482
On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If they're scum hang them, I don't care who it is.

I just don't understand why you're tunneling layabout when you refused to even explain your suspicions earlier. Do you want to make a case or not? You're not committing to anything.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 13:48 GMT
#483
Also if you can explain how Radfield and Layabout are comparable please do. I don't like how gentle Radfield is with his posting right now but I really almost see no similarities between the two.

Unless you're committed to never explaining anything. Have to wait for your scumbuddies to tell you what to say or do you just not like playing this game at all?
RIP Aaliyah
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
February 07 2012 13:51 GMT
#484
I agree that Schworz is a bad lynch. He looks fine to me.

Palmar you're reading the thread! That must mean your town


I'm down with a Sheth lynch. He's putting in effort, but it's a similar kind of effort as Election Mafia(when he was scum). All his topics are peripheral, he's making long rhetorical posts, and spending too much time talking about irrelevant stuff than he should. That being said, he doesn't feel terrible, but it's that same niggle I got in Election mafia. Sheth, can you point me to a game where you were town?

I'm also up for lynching CC. He's been pushing scum agenda this game, which is very much what he has done in the past. In LOTR he pushed scum agenda fearlessly the entire game, and he's doing the same thing here. Joker claiming ASAP is extremely sub-optimal, and does nothing but give mafia something to talk about. You've spent 15 posts talking about 3rd party issues and 2-3 talking about lynching or scummy players. And those have all been about Schworz, who is an easy candidate. Please step it up.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 13:56 GMT
#485
Well here we go. I take everything back I said about radfield. Pretty much the same as Palmar for me now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#486
On February 07 2012 22:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Well here we go. I take everything back I said about radfield. Pretty much the same as Palmar for me now :p

take back everything?

such bold statements as:
"i'd rather not lynch radfield d1"

and

"I'm so much more foresighted than radfield." - pre-game

Now you're backpedaling on statements you never made that's a first for me
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:01 GMT
#487
Missed one because I CTRL+F 'radfield" and not 'rad'

you also mentioned you didn't like his picks on his list but never actually called him out beyond that. still, it's nothing.

RIP Aaliyah
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#488
On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is.
Remember No guts. No gory.
Life can only kill you once.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 14:04 GMT
#489
On February 07 2012 22:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 22:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Well here we go. I take everything back I said about radfield. Pretty much the same as Palmar for me now :p

take back everything?

such bold statements as:
"i'd rather not lynch radfield d1"

and

"I'm so much more foresighted than radfield." - pre-game

Now you're backpedaling on statements you never made that's a first for me


keep cool man. Just lynch me if I end up lynching wrong people and I'm fine with that. Or read my last game and you might understand why I don't really feal like explaining a lot right now unless someone really wants to talk with me and discuss my own and his reads.
The pregame thing you quoted got a trollface underneath and it's pregame. It's common knwoledge that 99% of everything said pregame is trolling isn't it?
But I'm getting the same feeling I got from p4n last game about you this game. So that's a good thing I guess.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 07 2012 14:05 GMT
#490
Palmar, drop layabout to the scum list and it looks fine by me. And Toad could get to the Town section, because he is a mix of bored, drunk and honest townie at once. And he calls Batman badman for some reason. Like the hell.
Also, because it's still Day 1 I want to bring up two things:
Roles can have variations (something like paranoid doc or cop, etc)
and we have traitors here
On January 24 2012 14:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Insane inmates
You are a insane beyond belief. As such you killed a tyger security guard and decided to wear his clothes. Basically, any Detective checks on you will mark you as a Tyger Security Guard . As you are now donned in the security guards uniform, you subject other inmates to the same punishments the guards gave to you. You win with the inmates even though you hate them. You also don't realize just how insane you are and as such think you are a regular inmate.

Note:
Some names appear under 2 categories. These players will have to decide to be one or the other for their role. They are not both. Some roles might also have slight alterations to the "standard" although nothing game breaking. Not all names listed are guarenteed to be in this game, however only names listed will be in this game. Each role, much like Asylum, will have unique flavour text to make the gf style roles have more fun with the game. See Arkham Asylum for flavour text examples that I used for when you submit your role choice.

So during free time when You feel like actively lurking at least search for breadcrumbs from Traitors, if they exist.
As role variations I guess sanity cops, suiciding vigs and maybe paranoid docs (protect+rb)
Okay, enough of my setup rabble. I thought it's relevant to bring that to people so we know where are we standing. Yes, I know that discussing setup is the thing I've done the most. Oh well.
I think Palmar is getting less bored and more productive.. at least hope he does.
Also, HUGE FoS on WBG on getting the Schworz case back (First Toad then quick switch to him). This lynch is going to reach the level of absurd amazingxckd lynch got in one of the games I played. He claimed DT and was against guy who wrote nothing to defend himself and got lynched. At least gtrsrs got iGrok hung.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&currentpage=22#432
The biggest part is pushing arguement saying
"Claiming day 1 is ok and it's by no means anti-town"
Also: Two shady people support wbg:
BillMurray (although: he voted for Kenpachi first, no reaction till now)
DoctorHelvetica
Look:
There's NO POINT in defending Kenpachi
Everyone who defends him tries to prove that claiming day 1, be it false or not is not bad and does not give any info about his alignment
THIS IS FALSE.
This is also trying to drive attention off Kenpachi. Schworz looks like new, irratiated town to me. Why? Because I was IN THE SAME FUCKING SPOT. Also, his actions make sense. Schworz is Town.
People I think are mafia:
Cyber_Cheese
DoctorHelvetica
-_-Qualis
wherebugsgo
Kenpachi

Probably Mafia:
Layabout
I haven't looked into Sheth case. Give me some time.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 07 2012 14:06 GMT
#491
On February 07 2012 14:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I think RTG is town....only because I liked his first few posts this game even though a few people jumped on him. Just sayin. I was mafia last game with him. But I really need to catch up. That fuckin bastard penguin blew the bridge and left me over here with these ass hole joker inmates....I'ma fucking kill that fat fuck when I get back to the museum.

You're bloody traitor.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 14:07 GMT
#492
On February 07 2012 23:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Missed one because I CTRL+F 'radfield" and not 'rad'

you also mentioned you didn't like his picks on his list but never actually called him out beyond that. still, it's nothing.



that's because I'm not sure if he did that on purpose and I do not know what to make of it. He might be pulling a wbg on me and everyone else.
On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is.
Remember No guts. No gory.

I don't like lynching vets d1. Said the same in L. Remember I was the guy telling everyone to not lynch Palmar? I ended up being a townie (a vet) as well. So it really is my opionion. And with rads most recent post I'd even say he's leaning town for me right now. He just posted so little that it's hard to judge.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#493
Of course it's good. Explain how it gives any info at all about his alignment when the guy does it in every single game regardless? He even does it in games that don't have vanilla townies.

Furthermore BC's disclaimer was not talking about traitors it was talking about characters who have more than one category as in Harley Quinn falling under both Medic and Vigilante if I'm not mistaken
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:12 GMT
#494
On February 07 2012 23:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Missed one because I CTRL+F 'radfield" and not 'rad'

you also mentioned you didn't like his picks on his list but never actually called him out beyond that. still, it's nothing.



that's because I'm not sure if he did that on purpose and I do not know what to make of it. He might be pulling a wbg on me and everyone else.
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is.
Remember No guts. No gory.

I don't like lynching vets d1. Said the same in L. Remember I was the guy telling everyone to not lynch Palmar? I ended up being a townie (a vet) as well. So it really is my opionion. And with rads most recent post I'd even say he's leaning town for me right now. He just posted so little that it's hard to judge.


I'm reading that game. It's a shame no one listened to you when you were right, but this isn't a 60 person game, you're gonna get heard. Don't use excuses to stay quiet any longer.

And what's the point of even saying anything? You never really accused Radfield of anything so why suck up and praise his towniness unless you're just trying to get town cred yourself
RIP Aaliyah
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 07 2012 14:13 GMT
#495
Kurumi - Insane inmates are the same as millers. They have no idea they'll check red.
Life can only kill you once.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:13 GMT
#496
On February 07 2012 23:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Of course it's not good. Explain how it gives any info at all about his alignment when the guy does it in every single game regardless? He even does it in games that don't have vanilla townies.

Furthermore BC's disclaimer was not talking about traitors it was talking about characters who have more than one category as in Harley Quinn falling under both Medic and Vigilante if I'm not mistaken

EBWOP, bolded part is edited (in reference to kenpachi claiming green)
RIP Aaliyah
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 07 2012 14:14 GMT
#497
On February 07 2012 23:13 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi - Insane inmates are the same as millers. They have no idea they'll check red.

Ah fuck
This still doesn't make sense from Town perspective, right?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:15 GMT
#498
Oh wait I don't know if you're responding to the Insane Inmate flavor text or the "two categories" sentence actually, if you're responding to the flavor then nevermind :p
RIP Aaliyah
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 07 2012 14:16 GMT
#499
On February 07 2012 23:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:13 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi - Insane inmates are the same as millers. They have no idea they'll check red.

Ah fuck
This still doesn't make sense from Town perspective, right?

I'm not following. Millers are a pain if you're a DT but they should still be playing as a townie since they don't know they're millers.
Life can only kill you once.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 07 2012 14:18 GMT
#500
I want to lynch layabout today, why?

Reason 1:
He have only been dicking around. Not posting anything of value (well, this is the case for many players you might say.

Reason 2:
He is creating "tools" for scumhunting that is totally useless (funny, yeah, maybe, depends). Exactly like he did with his Bullshit formula in Purgatory, where he was scum:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&currentpage=74#1464

Layabout is the first to point out anything he sees as bad, crappy, stupid etc etc. And from my limited knowledge of his play I think his scumhunting is pretty good. So for him to post such distracting crap like this I see as scummy.

Reason 3
He is scared. I have called him out twice (three times counting this post) allready and he haven't talked back. What's up with that mister superaggressive? Is it because you know I am the king of tunneling, and as scum don't want this kind of attention? I think a layabout town would go straight for my throat after these posts. He is just sitting back and taking it.

Come out, bring your a-game, be your obnoxious scumhunting SOB layabout townie, or face the hangman tonight as the fooling around scum layabout.

#Vote: layabout

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