BC's Arkham City - Page 21

On February 07 2012 07:55 Kurumi wrote:

Hey, at least I am not trying to look like a hero.
Sorry Jay, but I don't mind being in the spotlight. I am trying to push the idea of list, but I fail to do it again. I want it to be kind of pass-the-paper thingie, where everyone writes a bit about everyone. The "need to be discussed" means I basically used the dreaded "FoS".

On February 07 2012 07:57 Toadesstern wrote:

I thought the - smiley tells you what I'm talking about. I was referring to your "and a - smiley for Toad" post. That's not trolling but you know, like a nice poke at me.
We just got massive amounts of shit like that. Not that it's bad, it's d1 after all and I did that as well but it's getting too much right now. Wasn't even meant to be an attack because I thought I laughed when you did that post but we should get going and start serious business.

On February 07 2012 08:06 Jayjay54 wrote:


but but but that was my birthday gift. I didn't mean to troll, It was merely a sidenote because we always hung out in mafia L.

Ok, back to business then what did you think of DocH posting Toad? Kind of reminded me of BC/Sandro last game...

On February 07 2012 06:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
First of all

##Unvote: kitaman27

Now for the good stuff.

VisceraEyes Lynch List of Accuracy

layabout - For criticizing others play as being non-contributory, yet contributes nothing of substance himself. Any idea who he thinks is scum? Me either.
Katina - Again, criticizing others for not contributing, but not contributing. Masquerading doesn't count guys - you actually have to do something.
kitaman27 - Kita appears to be doing something akin to scumhunting, and because he's a veteran, I'm willing to wait on his lynch - however, I think he's scum because he appealed to Forumite's suspicion of me to try and get a bandwagon started, but never even really voted for me…just stinks and I don't like it. But again, Kita is my weakest read at this point and I wouldn't be butthurt if we didn't lynch him today.

Also, Palmar is mistaken - lynching me is totally NOT always a net-gain for town. He's saying this because he's a prick.

So, there you have it.

##Vote: layabout

On February 07 2012 07:13 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
alright, new plan, if hugo winds up dead, the joker comes forward.
And we kill docH because he's catwoman

On February 07 2012 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
And of course you waited until I called you out before doing anything.

On February 07 2012 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm interested Doc - care to point out where Katina or layabout have contributed more than I have? Shouldn't be hard considering how little I've contributed. I appreciate that you think I only show up to defend myself, but that's simply not the case. Like you, I woke up to accusations. I think it's pretty ironic that you phrase it that way when you yourself had to use the same defense.

On February 07 2012 08:30 Kurumi wrote:
DrH, You've missed the point of the list. It wasn't to show scum or town, it's too early to do that. It was list of generic info about players (really generic..) people who were suspicious and people who should be important in the game.

On February 07 2012 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
You literally said "All 3 players have contributed more than you" in your case against me in reference to the 3 players on my lynch list Doc. And the fact that they're not contributing is NOT the point. MY point is that they're criticizing others for not contributing WHILE NOT CONTRIBUTING THEMSELVES. That DOES make them more likely to be mafia than me because I'm actually contributing and hunting scum.

Doctor. Lord of the Typefaces. You've got the wrong guy. I'm trying to lynch the scums.

On February 07 2012 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I feel pretty good about Liquid'Sheth, Cyber_Cheese, VisceraEyes, and possibly Tunkeg as a team at this point. CC is accusing me of being catwoman out of nowhere. This is absurd, the VE defense force is out now as I expected. This only increases my confidence in my vote. Kitaman reasoned pretty well, let me explain further why I don't like VE.

This is a player who made it understood, before the game, that he would be active.

1. His first post is defending Sheth by attacking a player who is suspicious of him, with no substance. He asks a question to the mod, this is a great thing to do as scum by the way it gives you something to fall back on that scum "totally wouldn't do". Sheth's only posts are early starting the easy FOS on kenpachi that happens in literally every single game kenpachi plays in. He is the easiest person to get lynched Day 1 usually, mafia want EASY bandwagons that look kinda scummy, they only risk huge lynches when they are threatened.
2. Is totally inactive, shows up again when he is called out and then OMGUS votes. You're voting to lynch someone on Day 1 because you don't like their "reasons" for voting? But the reasons for voting on KPach who green claims every single game meaninglessly are solid right?
3. Other players defending him chainsaw.

Liquid'Sheth also comes back with more fluffy comments about the already finished Batman discussion. I really wish we would stop beating this horse and CC's claims are even more ridiculous. I'll address those soon in this post but let me reiterate it makes no strategical advantage for Batman OR Catwoman to shoot before using DT.




All 3 players contributed more than he did. All VE has done is defend himself. All you're really doing is pointing out 2 players who haven't contributed much yet but making it look like you're doing some serious scumhunting. I don't know if you are usually this dramatic about absolutely nothing as town though. Someone can inform me of that.



Ridiculous. Even if I was Catwoman, I'd have no incentive to use my hits until late in the game. DO NOT WASTE LYNCHES ON THIRD PARTY. IT IS A WASTED LYNCH.

Town does NOT win by lynching SKs. Town must LYNCH scum. Catwoman is a threat to town, mafia is a bigger threat, and the only threat that involves our win condition.

Not only is his interpretation of my posts which are focused on making sure the town doesn't give up the joker terrible, but he misunderstands my whole point. My whole point is that Batman/Catwoman shouldn't shoot. We can't cut a bargain with them because they have no incentive to "help" us and can't even claim. HE was the one who made the plan centered around killing a townie to help Batman, I said we don't need to do it and realized pretty quickly that BM/CW won't even shoot early game. That makes me catwoman? That's the most desperate call I've ever heard.

JayJay says "a scum win is a catwoman win", which is not true. CW wins if Two-Face and Penguin are dead. She does not want scum to win the game before that happens. If that happens, she does not care who wins. It's as simple as that. Yes it is a role that hurts town. It is also a lower priority than lynching mafia.

Insinuating that I might be third party or scum for saying we should just use our lynches to kill scum really is a mindfuck and I'm gonna be really disappointed if both of you guys flip green or blue at the end of this game, take some time off to learn how to play town please.

There are a lot of FOSs flying around which is good for later analysis. I don't like Kurumi or Palmar right now but it'll take a bit of time to see how that develops. For the time being my strongest reads are on :

Liquid'Sheth - Long posts with no substance/easy FOS
VE - Posts only to defend himself/others for most of the game
CC - FOS me for talking about neutrals when he invented the bad plan focusing on them, advocates lynching third party instead of scum

Kurumi - I don't like these "scum list" things, especially on Day 1. It makes it look like you did some work but there's basically no thought in it. No one cares what your little hunches are. It is alright to have some FOSs flying around if you flip it gives us something to go off of, but put some more thought into it, that's all.