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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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OPZ IF YOURE NOT MASON YOURE SCUM | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On January 14 2012 09:05 Jayjay54 wrote: Hmm. As this thread slowed down a bit, could all the candidates please say what their lynch plan for day one is and why? would be quite nice for the town! Just reading through the thread and found this. It's a good question that every candidate should answer seperately from large posts so people can easily see it. If elected and I had to decide my lynch right now it would be GGQ. As I've said before, his posting has been extremely antitown and he's offered nothing of value. He is a good and veteran player who should know better than this. He also pretty much completely disapeared from the thread, he also (iirc) never addressed my concerns about him. These are both scum traits. As scum, when you're called out it's the best thing often to just ignore the accusation. GGQ did this. Also since I am the only person who has really called him out, whenever I go to sleep or leave my computer GGQ has time to to sink away from public eye, the BC mason storm helped this. When a scum is called out by only one or two people, the easiest strategy is ignore then lurk which is what GGQ did. This is why, at the moment, he'd be my lynch choice. | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 07:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote: You find a small point of my post, and call it scummy. You haven't complained about anyone else's votes and yet you consider that scummy. I wasn't even the first person to put my vote on him, but once its possibly gaining steam you point out that what I'm doing is scummy. You've also claimed to be our second Mason for those who missed it, as I didn't realize it until I read your filter. oh fuck i missed it nevermind thanks, sheth sorry, opz | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 08:08 Scamp wrote: So far most of the candidates haven't put a lot of effort into this game. It should be noted, once again, that the GF is selected after the mayoral elections. Thus mafia can send whoever they want at the elected spots, and if any veteran or suspicious day 1 players get elected then they can put the GF on someone else. i was going to defend myself, here, but you said "most" candidates carry on | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
On January 14 2012 18:55 Bill Murray wrote: BC, were you THE ORIGINAL mason, or WERE YOU MASONED? Actually, rereading the thread, I realize that I'm a bit unclear as to what exactly encompasses BC's claim. I'm gonna agree with Bill here, BC it's time you come clean here and tell us what's going on. I feel you're town, however you're starting to give off that "I'm hiding something" vibe which doesn't make me comfortable. So, no excuses or beating around the bush. Tell me right now who you masoned. Once you've told us we will then ask them for varification. This honestly shouldn't be that difficult. | ||
~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On January 14 2012 06:02 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm still wondering the proper benefits to the mass mason claim. I'm neutral as again, the role seems rather bland for the town this game. Being a mason doesn't confirm you. I'd like to know the general town consensus. So far I see Sandroba screaming for mass mason claim. Which I suppose all of the whisperers being public knowledge would be a good thing. But I don't wanna feel like sheep. I suppose theres no way around it though, or that its really important. I'm Mason #2. And I mason'd BC. But he won't talk to me. *cries* Same post I claim mason. -_-...srsly...The first part was orginally going to be a different post. That first portion was my first PM to BC tbh. Jesus christ, you and wherebugsgo are focusing on that way too much. Did you not notice I claimed in the same post? | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
it prevents mafia from subbing in and saccing On January 14 2012 09:14 kingjames01 wrote: Also, consider for the moment, that BC may be mafia Jack. If he uses his Mason power on Day 1 to establish his credibility and then is subsequently elected to office, we will not be able to find the mafia Jack. It is a risk, but I know that BC will take that risk. He is very much a medium-risk, high-reward player. EVERYONE! WHAT HAPPENS IF BLOODYC0BBLER IS MAFIA JACK? I consider this scenario involving BC to be within his bag of tricks, and I will not vote to elect him into office. I didn't like his interactions with opz, until I realized that one of them masoned the other, I think if he's scum, and he's doing that, it would free up another member to be elected GF it really is a good play kingjames get +town points, even if he's speculating on the setup, because his speculation is just that good, and actually pressures/scumhunts On January 14 2012 09:15 Nisani201 wrote: BC's mason claim is disappointing. This was said earlier, but it's important to note that if we end up electing him, we wont be able to check him with a DT. With my mayor, I don't give a shit if I know what role he is. I want to know his alignment. That's why I no longer support his campaign. I however am really starting to like Sandroba. He is making a lot of sense, and the fact that he is aggressively pushing for mass mason claim (which I support) makes him seem town to me. Don't let him pull the wool over your eyes, Nisani. Sandroba is scum. He is pushing a scummy agenda. Outting the masons is something mafia want. You towntold earlier, and I don't really trust you with your vote, considering you're voting for my top scum candidate. You need to start scumhunting! On January 14 2012 09:16 Foolishness wrote: As I speak on the behalf of the candidacy of the one and only BILL MURRAY I can tell you right now that he will be lynching Chaosquo. I haven't looked into Chaosquo, but I will do that right now. If I was elected right now, I would be lynching Sandroba. | ||
Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 18:52 Bill Murray wrote: CC why the hell would you say that? Even if I know BC's role is worthless, and I agree with you, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT NOW THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO wow If one person could work out it was a retarded and useless plan, what makes you think a team of 10 couldn't? I couldn't just sit idly by and let the rest of town not figure that out for themselves. If the mafia masons acted vanilla, and picked off the other masons, the town masons they don't kill look bad by default. I can see a lot of scum motivation to try and make the masons claim/nerf any advantage the masons could provide. At the end of the day, BC appears to be pushing to nerf the pro-town force that is our masons, by scaring us with the prospect of scum masons. You end that with a FoS on BC, where exactly do you stand? :/ | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 19:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Actually, rereading the thread, I realize that I'm a bit unclear as to what exactly encompasses BC's claim. I'm gonna agree with Bill here, BC it's time you come clean here and tell us what's going on. I feel you're town, however you're starting to give off that "I'm hiding something" vibe which doesn't make me comfortable. So, no excuses or beating around the bush. Tell me right now who you masoned. Once you've told us we will then ask them for varification. This honestly shouldn't be that difficult. Yeah, If BC was MASONED by opz, then everything is completely different On January 14 2012 19:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: Same post I claim mason. -_-...srsly...The first part was orginally going to be a different post. That first portion was my first PM to BC tbh. Jesus christ, you and wherebugsgo are focusing on that way too much. Did you not notice I claimed in the same post? YOUR PM to BC? so YOU masoned HIM? | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 19:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote: If one person could work out it was a retarded and useless plan, what makes you think a team of 10 couldn't? I couldn't just sit idly by and let the rest of town not figure that out for themselves. If the mafia masons acted vanilla, and picked off the other masons, the town masons they don't kill look bad by default. I can see a lot of scum motivation to try and make the masons claim/nerf any advantage the masons could provide. At the end of the day, BC appears to be pushing to nerf the pro-town force that is our masons, by scaring us with the prospect of scum masons. You end that with a FoS on BC, where exactly do you stand? :/ I didn't see that BC and OpZ were both out as masons I thought they scumslipped | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:51 Mattchew wrote: Would anyone like to discuss my mayoral candidacy? I think I make the best case to get a townie in office *facepalm* On January 14 2012 10:56 bumatlarge wrote: Mattchew's reasoning: "Hm, foolishness is a strong townie I hear, and I'm a mason, I wonder what I should do?" At this point, mattchew had not yet posted in the thread so he must have read this; Mattchew: "Wow, he really is a solid townie! Look at how he backs a questionable candidate who has not even posted yet. He might be scum, or he's a really good town player" Now, if you had alot of experience with foolishness, I could perhaps understand, but if this is your reasoning as a person who has not played with him, your reasons for him as town suck. ERGO you must be trolling. Mattchew already claimed townie hence my facepalm Foolishness is definitely town as well, because he is 100% trolling, and not reaction testing He has no motives to do what he's doing, right now, as scum He is probably my strongest townread beyond Nisani. That being said, I'd rather lose Nisani than Foolishness. | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 14 2012 10:57 Toadesstern wrote: he threatened to dayvig a dayvig last time he rolled town. He even said that he tried to chill a game and tried to troll town until everyone was telling him to stop shooting townies (telepathically thanks to V7's help). Other alternatives? Sure what about those guys: 11. EchelonTee 20. Ciryandor 30. blahz0r 45. Macpo EchelonTee is actually "that one guy whose name i can't remember" that started with an E for me He has +town points on my word document On January 14 2012 11:03 Mattchew wrote: where did I say i believed foolishness was town? I just knew that he plays extremely well as town, + Show Spoiler + and I have no idea how to play this role. I took a risk and pm'd him. I will say that I have a town read on him but I am not going to claim that he is 100% town Oh, you're a mason, too? Jeez, my reading has been weak as shit this game. Sorry, guys, I promise to step it up. I thought you claimed townie, hence my facepalm at the start of the above post. | ||
Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Elect Bill Murray 2012 Alright, before I go to sleep, I'd like to give my own reasoning for myself being mayor. My actions thus far have been to prove my being town, to scumhunt, and to try to pick up on associative tells. We need to get our shit together with all these mason claims. Are people open to me lynching a mason claim if I come into office? If so, I'll be lynching OpZ or Mattchew. BC put pressure on the mafia if he is an original mason. If BC was masoned by OpZ, though, everything changed in my opinion on that. If elected, I promise to sort out this mason business sooner rather than later, whereas the mafia will just put it off like CC said - they will be hunting for detectives, docs, and vigs I have been trying to refrain from spamming. Sorry for the 4-5 posts in a row, but I have a lot to catch up on, and I'm a vocal player. Am I not doing my best to scumhunt? I have been trying to clear people based on towntells, and trying to lynch people based on slips. I felt like I had a GREAT slip earlier from OpZ and BC, but then I realized, through Sheth's post, that OpZ had claimed mason. Like I said last paragraph, if elected, I'll handle that sooner rather than later. | ||
Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
It's much easier to post as town. PM games are pro-town, and masons are a step closer to that. Posting on a mason QT and in the thread is much easier than having to appear townie on two fronts. Mafia masons only exsist to allow us to doubt the allegiance of town masons. BC seems to trying to scare us out of using one of our advantages. BC seems like an intelligent player, and as such, I doubt he would have offered a plan unless he knew it was going to assure him some sort of benefit. Contrary to what someone said, people did have some time pre-game to speculate on the setup. BC showed in mafia XLVIII? (the 80p game) that he did put effort into thinking through strategies before games started. | ||
Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 19:34 Bill Murray wrote: Elect Bill Murray 2012 Alright, before I go to sleep, I'd like to give my own reasoning for myself being mayor. My actions thus far have been to prove my being town, to scumhunt, and to try to pick up on associative tells. We need to get our shit together with all these mason claims. Are people open to me lynching a mason claim if I come into office? If so, I'll be lynching OpZ or Mattchew. BC put pressure on the mafia if he is an original mason. If BC was masoned by OpZ, though, everything changed in my opinion on that. If elected, I promise to sort out this mason business sooner rather than later, whereas the mafia will just put it off like CC said - they will be hunting for detectives, docs, and vigs I have been trying to refrain from spamming. Sorry for the 4-5 posts in a row, but I have a lot to catch up on, and I'm a vocal player. Am I not doing my best to scumhunt? I have been trying to clear people based on towntells, and trying to lynch people based on slips. I felt like I had a GREAT slip earlier from OpZ and BC, but then I realized, through Sheth's post, that OpZ had claimed mason. Like I said last paragraph, if elected, I'll handle that sooner rather than later. Scum can only completely ignore masons if the town plan is to not use them. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 14 2012 19:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote: If I'm elected, I'm going to lynch BC for two reasons. It's much easier to post as town. PM games are pro-town, and masons are a step closer to that. Posting on a mason QT and in the thread is much easier than having to appear townie on two fronts. Mafia masons only exsist to allow us to doubt the allegiance of town masons. BC seems to trying to scare us out of using one of our advantages. BC seems like an intelligent player, and as such, I doubt he would have offered a plan unless he knew it was going to assure him some sort of benefit. Contrary to what someone said, people did have some time pre-game to speculate on the setup. BC showed in mafia XLVIII? (the 80p game) that he did put effort into thinking through strategies before games started. this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Also, you have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected because your campaign is awful. This is actually why I thought you were scum. You very well might still be scum, and I might just be overestimating your badness, but I guess I'll wait and see on that one since I believe Palmar to be nearly 100% scum at this point. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote: By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic. Should kenpachi be? | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
Also I want to know why foolishness wants to lynch Chaosquo. night everyone. | ||
Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
Palmar, you know you're playing bad, I know you're playing bad, WBG knows you're playing bad. Right now I think you were trying to see who jumped on you for your play. Gambit's over, it's time for you to be useful. And the fact that you compare yourself to kenpachi should really indicate that you've taken this little game as far as it's gonna run. Tell us what you learned by doing what you did. | ||
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