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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:12 Scamp wrote: With this post, you will not be getting my vote, unless you post something of substance really, really soon. first of all. I just got back from the bar. Second of all. Read my filter. What more substance do you want. I laid out my 3 candidates to lynch and established myself as town. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:12 Scamp wrote: With this post, you will not be getting my vote, unless you post something of substance really, really soon. Could not of said it better myself. But now that he mentions it, where the hell is BM? I'm not sold that any of the mayor candidate have a proper direction right now, and for all declaring they'd be active, they seem to be lacking. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote: Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with. On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote: I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason; They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all. Why and how did your opinion completely change? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:17 ~OpZ~ wrote: Could not of said it better myself. But now that he mentions it, where the hell is BM? I'm not sold that any of the mayor candidate have a proper direction right now, and for all declaring they'd be active, they seem to be lacking. I am moderately offended by this -_- | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:17 ~OpZ~ wrote: Could not of said it better myself. But now that he mentions it, where the hell is BM? I'm not sold that any of the mayor candidate have a proper direction right now, and for all declaring they'd be active, they seem to be lacking. Please read post above. I have spoken on every issue brought up (palmar, masons, who to lynch) and I don't understand this logic of Mayor running the town / game. You get 2extra votes and a lynch and immunity. You don't have to be the most vocal to be a good mayor you just have to make decent decisions and read well. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Hydractinum, for the record, I'm absolutely NOT ignoring your post. I'm reading it over and over and over and over again, pausing only slightly to read BC's posts over and over and over again. I officially withdraw from the election. This race is dead anyway. Get back in there son, you have my vote. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:21 Mattchew wrote: Please read post above. I have spoken on every issue brought up (palmar, masons, who to lynch) and I don't understand this logic of Mayor running the town / game. You get 2extra votes and a lynch and immunity. You don't have to be the most vocal to be a good mayor you just have to make decent decisions and read well. A mayor is someone players who surf by doing the bare minimum in thread follow at least early on. If you vote to off x then x will usually get sheeped. The other major reason is the player who gets mayor is someone you want to be able to hold accountable. IE is that person going to push a lynch hard, or is he going to get feedback first before deciding to push a lynch target. Forcing discussion, actively pushing lynches, etc.. are the things commonly looked for in a mayor. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I only question his selfish intentions. I don't think he needs a mayoral spot to protect himself this game, I'd rather give that to someone I think is town. Same goes to you protactinum. You are so focused on the lynch portion, that it might be worth it for you to grab mayor anyway you can. I don't believe this is staged at the moment, but my inner bum is tingling. I would rather have bill murray who is going to lynch scum that I can analyze the play of. @BM: just makng sure, who are you lynching if you get voted in? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Why and how did your opinion completely change? Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese  I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote: Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting. Why ciryandor? | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote: Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting. Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: A mayor is someone players who surf by doing the bare minimum in thread follow at least early on. If you vote to off x then x will usually get sheeped. The other major reason is the player who gets mayor is someone you want to be able to hold accountable. IE is that person going to push a lynch hard, or is he going to get feedback first before deciding to push a lynch target. Forcing discussion, actively pushing lynches, etc.. are the things commonly looked for in a mayor. A. You are wrong. I think the shear volume of posts about foolishness, palmar, L (who hasn't even posted) and other vets not trying for mayor proves this. People will listen to vets and those who are most vocal, regardless of whether or not they are mayor. Also, I don't care for the people trying to scrap by doing the bare minimum, fuck them, to quote flamewheel Of special importance for this game though: if you tend to "lurk" or I see that you are not putting effort into this game, despite not being modkilled you will be unable to participate in my future games. So please don't get modkilled and put a concerted effort into playing this. You are basically giving people an excuse to sheep the mayor. What the hell is that. My priority is getting 2 town elected officials. This is by far and away the best thing we can do on day 1. The mayor basically is a 3 power jack, with a dayvig shot, 2 extra votes and 2 bodyguards. Putting a scum member (regardless of how pro-town their campaign is) is terrible for town. This is why I have done everything logically under the sun to prove that I am town. And will vote for the person I believe to be most town running alongside me. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:30 bumatlarge wrote: Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me.It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent. Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
I think I talked about this already. He's ugly and smells bad. Also protact's case was the best thing to land on this thread so far. Also I might lynch a bg instead. Who knows. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote: It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent. Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'. Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:32 Mattchew wrote: A. You are wrong. I think the shear volume of posts about foolishness, palmar, L (who hasn't even posted) and other vets not trying for mayor proves this. People will listen to vets and those who are most vocal, regardless of whether or not they are mayor. Also, I don't care for the people trying to scrap by doing the bare minimum, fuck them, to quote flamewheel You are basically giving people an excuse to sheep the mayor. What the hell is that. My priority is getting 2 town elected officials. This is by far and away the best thing we can do on day 1. The mayor basically is a 3 power jack, with a dayvig shot, 2 extra votes and 2 bodyguards. Putting a scum member (regardless of how pro-town their campaign is) is terrible for town. This is why I have done everything logically under the sun to prove that I am town. And will vote for the person I believe to be most town running alongside me. Giving people an excuse? I am stating mere observations about previous games. You can put in a warning of how people will be punished for being inactive jerkwads and they will still do it. Shit happens in peoples lives, they get a role they dont want and skirt by doing the minimum, etc... I am not giving an excuse for them I am stating a simple observation, people sheep. People tend to sheep those in power. Do people also listen to players such as myself, L, Palmar and the like if they aren't elected? Yes, but people typically elect these players to keep them alive longer. The skillset that a vet carries is why vets more typically run for elections. Long term those skillsets if on a townie player are a huge benefit to keep around, and if it is a red there is a higher chance of catching them as the mayor is expected to be active and a good player is expected to perform at a certain level. If the person running is unable to perform at the required level it is effectively giving a townie who will just follow someone elses choice powers that they shouldnt have. If they are heavily listening to the vets, give vets the extra shite. If you want to step up and stand on your own two feet do so. Think of being the mayor the leader of a country. You must have solid thread prescense. Keeping yourself alive with your role (a role i firmly believe you should not be using after today), is not say as good as a newer player with a dt or med role getting it. I am not condoning either of those roles claiming but you get the idea. The mason role is something an experienced player theoretically could use effectively and warrant getting elected while possessing it but I personally believe no one should sit in pms. Mafia choose who on their team gets to be a mason, whereas hosts rng who got it for town. Regardless the mafia have 10 heads to properly work on who to mason and which approach to take while a newer player has his own thoughts. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 14 2012 16:38 bumatlarge wrote: Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that? BC was talking about ignoring PM's completely, and he's been wishy washy on whether he's keen on all the masons claiming. | ||
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