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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#961
BC, were you THE ORIGINAL mason, or WERE YOU MASONED?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 09:58 GMT
#962
"I mean, I'm still gonna try and pm you. <3 Ya Buddddddddy. Welcome back."
OPZ IF YOURE NOT MASON YOURE SCUM
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 14 2012 09:59 GMT
#963
On January 14 2012 09:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hmm. As this thread slowed down a bit, could all the candidates please say what their lynch plan for day one is and why? would be quite nice for the town!

Just reading through the thread and found this. It's a good question that every candidate should answer seperately from large posts so people can easily see it.

If elected and I had to decide my lynch right now it would be GGQ. As I've said before, his posting has been extremely antitown and he's offered nothing of value. He is a good and veteran player who should know better than this. He also pretty much completely disapeared from the thread, he also (iirc) never addressed my concerns about him. These are both scum traits. As scum, when you're called out it's the best thing often to just ignore the accusation. GGQ did this. Also since I am the only person who has really called him out, whenever I go to sleep or leave my computer GGQ has time to to sink away from public eye, the BC mason storm helped this. When a scum is called out by only one or two people, the easiest strategy is ignore then lurk which is what GGQ did. This is why, at the moment, he'd be my lynch choice.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:00 GMT
#964
On January 14 2012 07:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 07:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On January 14 2012 07:01 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On January 14 2012 06:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Sheth....For real? That is your reason for voting for someones who already stated that their activity will be waning? Would all it take to get you to change to BC or Sandroba be a declaration of lynching Ciry or is it just because he has already chosen his lynch target?

Bill, I don't really think Sandroba is scum because he called for a mason mass claim. So did BC in a round-a-bout way. I personally don't view the role with much power, so I don't know. I've been trying all day to think of a way to make it useful, but seriously, just ignoring pms this game seems the most highly logical play I could think of. I mean, I'm still gonna try and pm you. <3 Ya Buddddddddy. Welcome back.



They haven't stated their activity will be waning. No just switching to lynching Cir wouldn't cause me to switch my vote.


That was stated prior to the game start. I'm just curious as to your reasons for voting for them and the only reason I find is he is willing to lynch ciry. You didn't really say as to why and I found that scummy, so I guess it begs the question, why are you voting for protact?



You find a small point of my post, and call it scummy. You haven't complained about anyone else's votes and yet you consider that scummy. I wasn't even the first person to put my vote on him, but once its possibly gaining steam you point out that what I'm doing is scummy. You've also claimed to be our second Mason for those who missed it, as I didn't realize it until I read your filter.

oh
fuck
i missed it
nevermind
thanks, sheth
sorry, opz
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:03 GMT
#965
On January 14 2012 08:08 Scamp wrote:
So far most of the candidates haven't put a lot of effort into this game.

It should be noted, once again, that the GF is selected after the mayoral elections. Thus mafia can send whoever they want at the elected spots, and if any veteran or suspicious day 1 players get elected then they can put the GF on someone else.

i was going to defend myself, here, but you said "most" candidates
carry on
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 14 2012 10:05 GMT
#966
On January 14 2012 18:55 Bill Murray wrote:
BC, were you THE ORIGINAL mason, or WERE YOU MASONED?

Actually, rereading the thread, I realize that I'm a bit unclear as to what exactly encompasses BC's claim. I'm gonna agree with Bill here, BC it's time you come clean here and tell us what's going on. I feel you're town, however you're starting to give off that "I'm hiding something" vibe which doesn't make me comfortable. So, no excuses or beating around the bush. Tell me right now who you masoned. Once you've told us we will then ask them for varification. This honestly shouldn't be that difficult.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
January 14 2012 10:06 GMT
#967
On January 14 2012 06:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm still wondering the proper benefits to the mass mason claim. I'm neutral as again, the role seems rather bland for the town this game. Being a mason doesn't confirm you. I'd like to know the general town consensus.

So far I see Sandroba screaming for mass mason claim. Which I suppose all of the whisperers being public knowledge would be a good thing. But I don't wanna feel like sheep. I suppose theres no way around it though, or that its really important. I'm Mason #2. And I mason'd BC. But he won't talk to me. *cries*


Same post I claim mason. -_-...srsly...The first part was orginally going to be a different post. That first portion was my first PM to BC tbh. Jesus christ, you and wherebugsgo are focusing on that way too much. Did you not notice I claimed in the same post?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:10 GMT
#968
I completely agree with Kingjames about BGs being made public
it prevents mafia from subbing in and saccing

On January 14 2012 09:14 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, consider for the moment, that BC may be mafia Jack.

If he uses his Mason power on Day 1 to establish his credibility and then is subsequently elected to office, we will not be able to find the mafia Jack.

It is a risk, but I know that BC will take that risk. He is very much a medium-risk, high-reward player.

EVERYONE! WHAT HAPPENS IF BLOODYC0BBLER IS MAFIA JACK?


I consider this scenario involving BC to be within his bag of tricks, and I will not vote to elect him into office.

I didn't like his interactions with opz, until I realized that one of them masoned the other, I think
if he's scum, and he's doing that, it would free up another member to be elected GF
it really is a good play

kingjames get +town points, even if he's speculating on the setup, because his speculation is just that good, and actually pressures/scumhunts

On January 14 2012 09:15 Nisani201 wrote:
BC's mason claim is disappointing. This was said earlier, but it's important to note that if we end up electing him, we wont be able to check him with a DT. With my mayor, I don't give a shit if I know what role he is. I want to know his alignment. That's why I no longer support his campaign.

I however am really starting to like Sandroba. He is making a lot of sense, and the fact that he is aggressively pushing for mass mason claim (which I support) makes him seem town to me.

Don't let him pull the wool over your eyes, Nisani. Sandroba is scum. He is pushing a scummy agenda. Outting the masons is something mafia want. You towntold earlier, and I don't really trust you with your vote, considering you're voting for my top scum candidate. You need to start scumhunting!

On January 14 2012 09:16 Foolishness wrote:
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On January 14 2012 09:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Hmm. As this thread slowed down a bit, could all the candidates please say what their lynch plan for day one is and why? would be quite nice for the town!

As I speak on the behalf of the candidacy of the one and only BILL MURRAY I can tell you right now that he will be lynching Chaosquo.

I haven't looked into Chaosquo, but I will do that right now. If I was elected right now, I would be lynching Sandroba.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 14 2012 10:10 GMT
#969
On January 14 2012 18:52 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I vote we totally ignore this mason thing, and allow them to do what they will. Masons can help both sides, and can backfire for mafia. Additionally, the mafia masons have to worry about maintaining their townieness on two fronts. If the masons people use their intellect, we can make the mafia masons potentially backfire.
If their logs conflict at any point, we get a 1 for 1 trade.


Mafia masons have the experience of an entire team to work manipulate someone. Townies only have themselves. The level of experience on one front is far more stacked then the other. By making people discuss what masons are allowed to do, or how they are allowed to act you instead cripple the mafia from the get go.

Yes and no. The townie doesn't have to worry about looking pro-town at any point in time, so conversations are very natural. The scum should have problems appearing townie to both the thread and the masoned person.
LotR mafia, Radfield was this sort of scum mason, and he chose Sandroba. We didn't get to talk to Radfield all day, because he had to explain his every action to some level of detail in his conversation with Sandroba.
And that's discluding the scenario where a townie masons a scum and forces him into speech.

If we mass claim masons while making them useless, they essentially become VT's, so the mafia have higher chances of hitting other blues.
Intense scrutiny is better all around. Play smart and masons are a very pro-town force.

On August 12 2011 06:20 flamewheel wrote:
Mafia
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in your mafia. You may kill your own members. Mafia killing power will be determined when the game begins. You also must choose the Godfather, Roleblocker, Jack, and/or Framer from among yourselves. These [potentially] four Mafia power roles must be separately distributed, meaning one Mafia member can only possess one of these powers. If you do not choose by the start of night 1, I will randomly choose for you. Mafia will also have a certain number of Masons, which can be given to any Mafia (even those possessing other roles).

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I don't know if there's anything to make of this, but I feel like it was correcting.
No mafia have roles until they need them, so the GF will not be elected.

CC why the hell would you say that?
Even if I know BC's role is worthless, and I agree with you, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT
NOW THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO
wow

If one person could work out it was a retarded and useless plan, what makes you think a team of 10 couldn't?
I couldn't just sit idly by and let the rest of town not figure that out for themselves.
If the mafia masons acted vanilla, and picked off the other masons, the town masons they don't kill look bad by default.
I can see a lot of scum motivation to try and make the masons claim/nerf any advantage the masons could provide.
At the end of the day, BC appears to be pushing to nerf the pro-town force that is our masons, by scaring us with the prospect of scum masons.
You end that with a FoS on BC, where exactly do you stand? :/
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:12 GMT
#970
On January 14 2012 19:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 18:55 Bill Murray wrote:
BC, were you THE ORIGINAL mason, or WERE YOU MASONED?

Actually, rereading the thread, I realize that I'm a bit unclear as to what exactly encompasses BC's claim. I'm gonna agree with Bill here, BC it's time you come clean here and tell us what's going on. I feel you're town, however you're starting to give off that "I'm hiding something" vibe which doesn't make me comfortable. So, no excuses or beating around the bush. Tell me right now who you masoned. Once you've told us we will then ask them for varification. This honestly shouldn't be that difficult.

Yeah, If BC was MASONED by opz, then everything is completely different


On January 14 2012 19:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 06:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm still wondering the proper benefits to the mass mason claim. I'm neutral as again, the role seems rather bland for the town this game. Being a mason doesn't confirm you. I'd like to know the general town consensus.

So far I see Sandroba screaming for mass mason claim. Which I suppose all of the whisperers being public knowledge would be a good thing. But I don't wanna feel like sheep. I suppose theres no way around it though, or that its really important. I'm Mason #2. And I mason'd BC. But he won't talk to me. *cries*


Same post I claim mason. -_-...srsly...The first part was orginally going to be a different post. That first portion was my first PM to BC tbh. Jesus christ, you and wherebugsgo are focusing on that way too much. Did you not notice I claimed in the same post?

YOUR PM to BC?
so YOU masoned HIM?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:13 GMT
#971
On January 14 2012 19:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 18:52 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I vote we totally ignore this mason thing, and allow them to do what they will. Masons can help both sides, and can backfire for mafia. Additionally, the mafia masons have to worry about maintaining their townieness on two fronts. If the masons people use their intellect, we can make the mafia masons potentially backfire.
If their logs conflict at any point, we get a 1 for 1 trade.


Mafia masons have the experience of an entire team to work manipulate someone. Townies only have themselves. The level of experience on one front is far more stacked then the other. By making people discuss what masons are allowed to do, or how they are allowed to act you instead cripple the mafia from the get go.

Yes and no. The townie doesn't have to worry about looking pro-town at any point in time, so conversations are very natural. The scum should have problems appearing townie to both the thread and the masoned person.
LotR mafia, Radfield was this sort of scum mason, and he chose Sandroba. We didn't get to talk to Radfield all day, because he had to explain his every action to some level of detail in his conversation with Sandroba.
And that's discluding the scenario where a townie masons a scum and forces him into speech.

If we mass claim masons while making them useless, they essentially become VT's, so the mafia have higher chances of hitting other blues.
Intense scrutiny is better all around. Play smart and masons are a very pro-town force.

On August 12 2011 06:20 flamewheel wrote:
Mafia
Your goal is to eliminate everyone else in the town. Your ability, as a group, is killing off whomever you decide on at night and knowing the role of each other player in your mafia. You may kill your own members. Mafia killing power will be determined when the game begins. You also must choose the Godfather, Roleblocker, Jack, and/or Framer from among yourselves. These [potentially] four Mafia power roles must be separately distributed, meaning one Mafia member can only possess one of these powers. If you do not choose by the start of night 1, I will randomly choose for you. Mafia will also have a certain number of Masons, which can be given to any Mafia (even those possessing other roles).

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I don't know if there's anything to make of this, but I feel like it was correcting.
No mafia have roles until they need them, so the GF will not be elected.

CC why the hell would you say that?
Even if I know BC's role is worthless, and I agree with you, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT
NOW THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO
wow

If one person could work out it was a retarded and useless plan, what makes you think a team of 10 couldn't?
I couldn't just sit idly by and let the rest of town not figure that out for themselves.
If the mafia masons acted vanilla, and picked off the other masons, the town masons they don't kill look bad by default.
I can see a lot of scum motivation to try and make the masons claim/nerf any advantage the masons could provide.
At the end of the day, BC appears to be pushing to nerf the pro-town force that is our masons, by scaring us with the prospect of scum masons.
You end that with a FoS on BC, where exactly do you stand? :/

I didn't see that BC and OpZ were both out as masons
I thought they scumslipped
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:17 GMT
#972
On January 14 2012 10:51 Mattchew wrote:
Would anyone like to discuss my mayoral candidacy? I think I make the best case to get a townie in office

*facepalm*



On January 14 2012 10:56 bumatlarge wrote:
Mattchew's reasoning:
"Hm, foolishness is a strong townie I hear, and I'm a mason, I wonder what I should do?" At this point, mattchew had not yet posted in the thread so he must have read this;

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious


Mattchew:
"Wow, he really is a solid townie! Look at how he backs a questionable candidate who has not even posted yet. He might be scum, or he's a really good town player"

Now, if you had alot of experience with foolishness, I could perhaps understand, but if this is your reasoning as a person who has not played with him, your reasons for him as town suck. ERGO you must be trolling.

Mattchew already claimed townie
hence my facepalm
Foolishness is definitely town as well, because he is 100% trolling, and not reaction testing
He has no motives to do what he's doing, right now, as scum
He is probably my strongest townread beyond Nisani. That being said, I'd rather lose Nisani than Foolishness.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:21 GMT
#973
On January 14 2012 10:57 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 14 2012 10:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
no, he's literally this bad as mafia. If he's this useless, he's auto scum.

If he's town he'll actually put in effort. This is not WIFOM because if he were town he would not want to confuse us. He would be clear about establishing himself as a townie and the "WIFOM" you speak of wouldn't exist.

Honestly there is no WIFOM, the only possibility for Palmar at this point is scum.

Since you keep saying let's keep him till day 2, I assume you have a better candidate for us to lynch? Why don't you give us that candidate? If not, then let's lynch Palmar, not? Why wait a day and waste a lynch that will potentially hit a townie instead of just killing the almost certain scum in Palmar?


he threatened to dayvig a dayvig last time he rolled town. He even said that he tried to chill a game and tried to troll town until everyone was telling him to stop shooting townies (telepathically thanks to V7's help).

Other alternatives? Sure what about those guys:
11. EchelonTee
20. Ciryandor
30. blahz0r
45. Macpo

EchelonTee is actually "that one guy whose name i can't remember" that started with an E for me
He has +town points on my word document

On January 14 2012 11:03 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 10:56 bumatlarge wrote:
Mattchew's reasoning:
"Hm, foolishness is a strong townie I hear, and I'm a mason, I wonder what I should do?" At this point, mattchew had not yet posted in the thread so he must have read this;

On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

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You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
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Yes I'm 100% serious


Mattchew:
"Wow, he really is a solid townie! Look at how he backs a questionable candidate who has not even posted yet. He might be scum, or he's a really good town player"

Now, if you had alot of experience with foolishness, I could perhaps understand, but if this is your reasoning as a person who has not played with him, your reasons for him as town suck. ERGO you must be trolling.


where did I say i believed foolishness was town? I just knew that he plays extremely well as town, + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302727&currentpage=2
and I have no idea how to play this role. I took a risk and pm'd him. I will say that I have a town read on him but I am not going to claim that he is 100% town

Oh, you're a mason, too?
Jeez, my reading has been weak as shit this game. Sorry, guys, I promise to step it up.
I thought you claimed townie, hence my facepalm at the start of the above post.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 14 2012 10:34 GMT
#974
Elect Bill Murray 2012
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Alright, before I go to sleep, I'd like to give my own reasoning for myself being mayor. My actions thus far have been to prove my being town, to scumhunt, and to try to pick up on associative tells.

We need to get our shit together with all these mason claims. Are people open to me lynching a mason claim if I come into office? If so, I'll be lynching OpZ or Mattchew. BC put pressure on the mafia if he is an original mason. If BC was masoned by OpZ, though, everything changed in my opinion on that. If elected, I promise to sort out this mason business sooner rather than later, whereas the mafia will just put it off like CC said - they will be hunting for detectives, docs, and vigs

I have been trying to refrain from spamming. Sorry for the 4-5 posts in a row, but I have a lot to catch up on, and I'm a vocal player. Am I not doing my best to scumhunt? I have been trying to clear people based on towntells, and trying to lynch people based on slips. I felt like I had a GREAT slip earlier from OpZ and BC, but then I realized, through Sheth's post, that OpZ had claimed mason. Like I said last paragraph, if elected, I'll handle that sooner rather than later.

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 14 2012 10:40 GMT
#975
If I'm elected, I'm going to lynch BC for two reasons.
It's much easier to post as town. PM games are pro-town, and masons are a step closer to that. Posting on a mason QT and in the thread is much easier than having to appear townie on two fronts. Mafia masons only exsist to allow us to doubt the allegiance of town masons. BC seems to trying to scare us out of using one of our advantages.
BC seems like an intelligent player, and as such, I doubt he would have offered a plan unless he knew it was going to assure him some sort of benefit. Contrary to what someone said, people did have some time pre-game to speculate on the setup. BC showed in mafia XLVIII? (the 80p game) that he did put effort into thinking through strategies before games started.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 14 2012 10:41 GMT
#976
On January 14 2012 19:34 Bill Murray wrote:
Elect Bill Murray 2012
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Alright, before I go to sleep, I'd like to give my own reasoning for myself being mayor. My actions thus far have been to prove my being town, to scumhunt, and to try to pick up on associative tells.

We need to get our shit together with all these mason claims. Are people open to me lynching a mason claim if I come into office? If so, I'll be lynching OpZ or Mattchew. BC put pressure on the mafia if he is an original mason. If BC was masoned by OpZ, though, everything changed in my opinion on that. If elected, I promise to sort out this mason business sooner rather than later, whereas the mafia will just put it off like CC said - they will be hunting for detectives, docs, and vigs

I have been trying to refrain from spamming. Sorry for the 4-5 posts in a row, but I have a lot to catch up on, and I'm a vocal player. Am I not doing my best to scumhunt? I have been trying to clear people based on towntells, and trying to lynch people based on slips. I felt like I had a GREAT slip earlier from OpZ and BC, but then I realized, through Sheth's post, that OpZ had claimed mason. Like I said last paragraph, if elected, I'll handle that sooner rather than later.

Scum can only completely ignore masons if the town plan is to not use them.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2012 10:43 GMT
#977
On January 14 2012 19:40 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
If I'm elected, I'm going to lynch BC for two reasons.
It's much easier to post as town. PM games are pro-town, and masons are a step closer to that. Posting on a mason QT and in the thread is much easier than having to appear townie on two fronts. Mafia masons only exsist to allow us to doubt the allegiance of town masons. BC seems to trying to scare us out of using one of our advantages.
BC seems like an intelligent player, and as such, I doubt he would have offered a plan unless he knew it was going to assure him some sort of benefit. Contrary to what someone said, people did have some time pre-game to speculate on the setup. BC showed in mafia XLVIII? (the 80p game) that he did put effort into thinking through strategies before games started.


this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Also, you have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected because your campaign is awful. This is actually why I thought you were scum. You very well might still be scum, and I might just be overestimating your badness, but I guess I'll wait and see on that one since I believe Palmar to be nearly 100% scum at this point.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 14 2012 10:46 GMT
#978
On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote:
By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic.


Should kenpachi be?
Computer says mafia
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 14 2012 10:48 GMT
#979
Well I'm going to sleep. Tomorrow I'm going to be gone from 11:00am to 6:00pm PST but I'll bring my itouch and keep up with the thread. No massive posts but I'll give my opinions and reads when I can.

Also I want to know why foolishness wants to lynch Chaosquo.

night everyone.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 14 2012 10:52 GMT
#980
On January 14 2012 19:46 Palmar wrote:
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On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote:
By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic.


Should kenpachi be?

Palmar, you know you're playing bad, I know you're playing bad, WBG knows you're playing bad. Right now I think you were trying to see who jumped on you for your play. Gambit's over, it's time for you to be useful.

And the fact that you compare yourself to kenpachi should really indicate that you've taken this little game as far as it's gonna run. Tell us what you learned by doing what you did.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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