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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
from what I've seen of Foolishness, when he's mafia, he likes to sit back until day 2 I don't believe this is his scum game, but I'm only leaning on him I have a legitimate towntell from someone else | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote: + Show Spoiler [campaign post] + ![[image loading]](http://steinertalent.com/media/uploads/btb_bill_murray/images/Bill_Murray_old.jpg) This is my official campaign post! It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray! Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office. Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie. Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will! A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town! Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type. ![[image loading]](http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Bill_Murray_you.jpg) You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray! + Show Spoiler + Yes I'm 100% serious Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected? On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote: Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy. So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture. So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election? No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate. On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote: I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game. Explain. On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote: A couple notes about the set-up: Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic. Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia. We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them. Vote me into office, please. I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates? Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
cyber - the usual "my scum play is bad" Murray (foolishness) - not sure if troll, or just stupid risk.nuke - doesn't talk about how he will mayor powers wiggles - no platform for campaign bumatlarge - does not understand that mayor does not control town Murray - no platform for campaign | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
Also caught up on the thread huzzzzzahhhhh. Now lets start my post off with some quality. Foolishness is the lack of wisdom. In this sense it differs from stupidity, which is the lack of intelligence. An act of foolishness is sometimes referred to as a folly Now, everyone is prob going "BC why are you quoting this?" The reason is simple. There is a current campaign by foolishness to get BM elected. Now, BM is an unknown variable in the current metric of TL mafia. I say this because with as much time as he has had off from TL games he may have changed his play style via other forums. He could have "restrictions" of sorts provided by the host to make sure he doesn't ruin the game as his reputation portrays. However the most interesting reason is simply that he has not posted yet. Foolishness is running a campaign for bm proclaiming him town, yet, the man has yet to post as of the time i am writing this. I dont know about you, but I think my definition holds true at this point. Now for a serious campaign. I am running for mayor. Why am I running for mayor? Because I think I am one of the most experienced players in the roster who has the ability to lead. I am a generally a vocal player, and to those who have played with me before someone who is usually a fairly straightforward read. These players would include foolishness, incog (whos sharing an account). The ones who should based on asking me for advice/playing on teams with me as red/being fubar'd by my red play are sandroba, wiggles, visceraeyes, opz and possibly a few more. I am accountable for my actions. I say this because if I say i will do something I will do it. A scum me rarely pokes his head out without reason, and as such I am willingly to put spotlight on myself at all times to keep the town assured of my alignment. I will question, analyze and call out all those who play in what I view as bad town/mafia like. (I have already done this with foolishness, he knows better). I will actively harass lurkers to play in this game as opposed to lurking, failure to begin playing will result in advocacy of vig shots. In short I will lead. As opposed to letting the town run around under the reigns of a player not used to being put in the position to lead I am willing to do so. This also helps keep me alive as I will be a high priority mafia night target. They know I am coming for them, and I will not stop until they die. Vote for BC, vote for accountable and vocal leadership. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 13 2012 16:26 Bill Murray wrote: the one thing I'm taken aback about is whether or not Foolishness would buddy me this early as mafia from what I've seen of Foolishness, when he's mafia, he likes to sit back until day 2 I don't believe this is his scum game, but I'm only leaning on him I have a legitimate towntell from someone else moot point overall, his town play and scumplay is almost always "inactiveish" till day 2-3 when he starts to actively post. Changing this behaviour would be normal given his history of dying early in games. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected? No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate. Explain. I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates? Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying. He's posting with a positive attitude and he didnt squeem at all at the prospect of lynching wiggles. Plus he took your lameness seriously :D I'm not planning ahead THAT much, and running for mayor as blue is perfectly reasonable reasoning. Unless a vanilla townie is very good, there is little reason for him to run over a townie. I find cheese's posting rather scummy so far. He seems rather content with stepping on peoples posts this game with not much regard to his own. I will review his case. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Bill has a point though, why would foolishness push bill as mayor when bill hasnt posted? It seems rather neutral, but not necessarily moot. He's drawing alot of attention. I couldn't think of a better way for him to say "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME" | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 13 2012 16:56 bumatlarge wrote: BC if you hang foolishness I'll consider voting you. But you have to promise to be superactive, not Mr, oh I'm BC and I 'm just gonna come in on day 3 and do stuff. I guess if you are serious running for mayor. Bill has a point though, why would foolishness push bill as mayor when bill hasnt posted? It seems rather neutral, but not necessarily moot. He's drawing alot of attention. I couldn't think of a better way for him to say "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME" its a good way of saying "look at me" however to label bm with an alignment of townie already when bm hadnt posted is sketchy as hell. and yes I have time for this game barring any of the "oh jesus someone died/got super sick/huge rl issue". As for hanging foolishness, he would have to continue being super wtf as his first few posts have screamed. I will also if it is something people want update the thread with my work schedule so people have a general idea of when I will and won't be around the thread tommorrow/saturday when it is posted. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
So town gather up and give me your support, because mafia isn't going to let me get this position easily. It makes them feel unsafe and fearful. They are right. I'm coming for them. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On January 13 2012 17:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote: its a good way of saying "look at me" however to label bm with an alignment of townie already when bm hadnt posted is sketchy as hell. and yes I have time for this game barring any of the "oh jesus someone died/got super sick/huge rl issue". As for hanging foolishness, he would have to continue being super wtf as his first few posts have screamed. I will also if it is something people want update the thread with my work schedule so people have a general idea of when I will and won't be around the thread tommorrow/saturday when it is posted. I don't think he's doing that whatsoever if it's not a reaction test, I'll eat my shoe | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote: It is not Foolishness's game I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself. eh? not that I want to start the first huge argument of the thread but. Do you agree that it is possible for someone to change their style? I am willing to give cheese about 20ish-30ish more minutes to respond to you before I make up my mind on him as well, I know my giant post was written as you posted 3 times. If he posts within the next bit of time badly or doesn't I will have him on a shit list. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Having the town's best interest in mind does not mean necessarily running yourself. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 13 2012 17:12 Bill Murray wrote: I don't think he's doing that whatsoever if it's not a reaction test, I'll eat my shoe Always possible, but pushing you for mayor is a fairly strong reaction test and links the two of you near at the hip from game start which is insanely uncharacteristic of him. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On January 13 2012 17:15 sandroba wrote: Also we need to consolidate our candidates. If everyone and their mother runs for election mafia can EASILY get whoever they want elected due to spreading of votes. So if you are running just because it's "standard" for you to run or you don't trust Y or Z please step down and take the time to analise the handful of candidates that actually have a shot and can make a difference. Having the town's best interest in mind does not mean necessarily running yourself. Anyone who is not actively posting/scumhunting/etc... who is running for election by the end of the first 16-18 hour period (only saying this long as the game started at a lateish period for alot of people) then their candidacy should be invalidated as they are not actively participating in a level that is expected from our elected officials. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ARIZOPe9fAY/TkVsOQHcE5I/AAAAAAAABVQ/TAktPrEvmHc/s400/MADINA-3.jpg) Look around you. Go on, go back to page 1 and take a good long look at the player-list in this game. I'll wait. You'll see some familiar names, some you don't recognize, some you love playing with and some you hate playing with. You'll see seasoned veterans and raw newbies. You'll see professional e-sports figures and people fresh off super-secret-probation. This is possibly one of the most diverse player-lists since XLVII. With such a diverse cast of characters, do we really want the same ol' mayor calling the shots? It's time for a change. My name is VisceraEyes. Some of you might know me as 'that crazy guy who used to post insane nonsense but who has come back actually making sense at least half the time'. Others might know me as 'isn't he that guy who shot the GF on N1 of Election Mafia?' Still others of you may have never heard of me at all. It is for all of these reasons and more that I'm nominating myself for Mayor of Liquidia. "But VE, surely you jest! No one would follow you!" You have a point sir, but please allow me to explain. I don't intend to 'lead' the town. I intend to play the game as I always do - by being as open and transparent with my reads/thoughts as I can possibly be. I intend to lynch scum today, and I intend to relentlessly hunt for the remaining scum WITH town in the days to come. In this way, if town is interested in hunting scum, they have to follow me, because I'll already be doing that. It's called lead by example, and it's something the vets have forgotten about. "VE, surely you can see the merit of having a proven veteran of TLMafia as the mayor, right? At this point, no. In the games I've played, it seems to me like the vets are all mostly interested in surviving the first 2 night-kills (if they're town) before actually playing the game. I'm tired of electing someone into a position, only to have them waste it by lurking and throwing out random pro-town tidbits in an effort to avoid getting killed while they collect data. What does this serve to do? Get random players killed while the Mafia try and kill that vet before they become effective, that's what. I'll be active the whole game, not just from D3 on. I'll be lynching scum TODAY, and I'll be hunting scum with you guys starting X pages ago…not on D3. All right that makes sense, but I've got to know: are you going to be as effective at scumhunting as a vet would? I'm not going to lie, here. I'm probably not as good at scumhunting as some of the vets may be. But I'll tell you what I DO know. I know that I probably try harder than all of them. It's part of the reason I've improved as much as I have since I started playing: because I relentlessly look for the scums. And here's something else to think about: go over my last couple of games and tell me that my alignment was a mystery to you. Go on, look. I bet anyone here (including some of our fresher players) could go look through my filter of any given game and accurately predict my alignment. Can you say the same about any of the vets also running for mayor? I'm talking to you too, vets: can you honestly say that I'll be harder to read than, say, BloodyC0bbler? Or Meapak? I'm almost convinced sir, but I have one final question for you: who would you lynch if chosen to be mayor? I can honestly say that I have no idea yet who I'm going to lynch today (and who asks that at a time like this anyway?) But I promise that I'll take everyone's input into account should you choose to elect me, and the final decision will be a town decision. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I don't like bumatlarge at all. First he is unable to check the first post to see if he is actually able to vote for himself or not. I also don't like how he says he really easy to read. Finally, I really don't like how he's asked multiple times for the masons to mason him. Sandroba also draws suspicion for putting up the "I'm bad at scum" defense. Also seems really unfamiliar with the whole election process when I'm pretty sure he's played in several games with elections. I'd have to check on that one, but I'm sure he'll just answer it himself. I gotta question Mr. Wiggles for suggesting that a Godfather would run for office and then drop out early. But I'll just sit back for now and see who else is going to run by the time I wake up tomorrow. | ||
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