Look i'm sure there's some loose 'Code of Conduct' that GOM has in place, which definitely needs to be set in stone with clear ramifications if players get out of hand. Plus they should actively work on briefing foreign players with these rules so they are clear that if they get out of hand these spots will not be handed out so freely.
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aussiesanga
Australia32 Posts
Look i'm sure there's some loose 'Code of Conduct' that GOM has in place, which definitely needs to be set in stone with clear ramifications if players get out of hand. Plus they should actively work on briefing foreign players with these rules so they are clear that if they get out of hand these spots will not be handed out so freely. | ||
zeru
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Kireak
Sweden358 Posts
I wish they only had agreements with certain leagues if they want to seed people in. At least something that lets us know how they go about it. Its the same shit with blizzard regionals. No one knows how players got invited. Some did, some didnt. | ||
NHY
1013 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:14 Soma.bokforlag wrote: do you really buy that? "you are supposed to be professional"? what does that entail? if players do sloppy plays and miss micro because the game doesnt matter, isnt that unprofessional? this is such a fine line, you might as well have a rule "players have to be 100% motivated for every game, otherwise you may at any point be banned from the league for being considered unprofessional" I know It is vague, just like everything else in real life. | ||
Noocta
France12574 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:28 Noocta wrote: It's sad because if Naniwa knew it would have been such a mess, he probably would just 4gate him and lose in 5 more minutes without consequences. -_- Naniwa has lived there for quite a while so I don't feel that ignorance is an excuse for Naniwa, but yes I do agree that if he knew it'd come to this, he would have just 4 gated. | ||
gregnog
United States289 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:27 NHY wrote: I know It is vague, just like everything else in real life. Which causes massive uproars.... protests.... Indefinite detention act...? | ||
StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:27 zeru wrote: rain got a ban for calling GOM the same day group selections were telling them he is giving up his code S spot since they couldnt replace him. yet idra wasnt replaced either when he left. a bit different situations yet similar at the same time, but opposite reactions to them. Idra gave them many weeks prior notice. They even had time to create a going away video. There is a world of difference here. | ||
zeru
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:26 aussiesanga wrote: Sen got his place from WCG. So no favoritism. Look i'm sure there's some loose 'Code of Conduct' that GOM has in place, which definitely needs to be set in stone with clear ramifications if players get out of hand. Plus they should actively work on briefing foreign players with these rules so they are clear that if they get out of hand these spots will not be handed out so freely. what? seriously? finishing 4th in the first group segment, placing someting like place 30 out of 56 players gives you a free seed to code s?! edit. sorry. you were probably ironic? internet is hard | ||
Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:26 ooni wrote: Coca was not forced to do it. However, yeah, not turning up for group selection, banned for 2 seasons seem so extreme. I think the rules GOM has is not illogical however, the punishments they give out never seem to fit the crime. I don't really think Rain should be a factor in this discussion at all The whole Rain situation was akin to slamming the door on your ex as she's walking out it You know she's never coming back anyway but you're just trying to make a statement | ||
VL-Orion
Indonesia78 Posts
Even MC knew that what Naniwa did is messed up. For all of you who says that is hypocritical of GOM and some players, I really wonder how old you guys are and have you even ever hold a job. When its your job its sometime sucked BUT YOU DO IT ANYWAY. Please grow up and realize that what GOMtv doing is to punish a behavior that they deemed "unprofessional" is it "arbitary'? yes and GUESS WHAT it always arbitrary even in the justice system get a shitty judge and you are screwed Making rules whenever they want? that's what you(government cooperation, ect) DO when there is no rule but you felt that there is a need to be one , MOST LAW ARE PASSED THIS WAY Please understand how the real world works. | ||
gregnog
United States289 Posts
The only thing that comes to mind is when Catz was auto forfeited when he was 10 minutes late for his match. Maybe when they were thinking of having MLG jerseys.... open bracket is kind of grueling... It just seems silly. Obviously GOM has control issues. | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:27 NHY wrote: I know It is vague, just like everything else in real life. Actually most sports have pretty extensive and indepth rules as to what is or isn't allowed in game. Some rules might be open to interpetation but its usually pretty clear cut. "Being a professional" is not. | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
lol, there were SO many complaints are the seeding for the Providence tournament... IMMVP didn't get in eventhough he was a champion and so forth... | ||
Azzur
Australia6203 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:27 zeru wrote: Thats the definition of arbitrary. They do things suddenly whatever way they feel is right instead of doing what the rules say (because they dont have good rules written down) such as random code A/S invites to popular players instead of players who deserve it. They should establish a system and rules and regulation instead of having arbitrary made up on the fly "rules" rain got a ban for calling GOM the same day group selections were telling them he is giving up his code S spot since they couldnt replace him. yet idra wasnt replaced either when he left. a bit different situations yet similar at the same time, but opposite reactions to them. Tennis tournaments have wildcards and no one complains. Western sporting events have also meted out punishment for players that show poor behaviour. Imagine a tennis tournament where a player just flat out refuses to play - I don't think that will go down too well. Actually, I just feel sorry for Naniwa because if he just did some half-arsed attempt (e.g. proxy 2-gate, 4-gate or cannon rushed), this backlash wouldn't have happened. You can blame his poor social skills and a lack of understanding on how the world works for this. | ||
gregnog
United States289 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:47 vthree wrote: "How many players question MLG's rules/tournament structure?" lol, there were SO many complaints are the seeding for the Providence tournament... IMMVP didn't get in eventhough he was a champion and so forth... Compelling argument. | ||
theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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