Agonyx90's Art Journal
January 23rd, 2012 UPDATES?!
Well, I never thought I would actually come back to update this, but I figured why not show TL my progress, since I had already subjugated the community to my horrible start up drawings :-p. Also, on the side of good news, after 2.5 months, I have not given up and I like to think that I'm improving at a reasonably good rate.
Moving on, after aspiring to learn about actual art and drawing (not just animation style stuff), I began searching around and studying as much material as I could find. I spent a lot of times on ConceptArt.org and Deviant Art, just looking up guides and information. For the most part, I found images that worked on things I was interested in and attempted to copy it. Hilariously, I discovered some 3 weeks ago, that if i rolled out of my bed, tumbled some 30 feet out of my front door and then proceeded to flop my way messily towards the direction of East, I would, after about 3 minutes of randomized rolling and tumbling, be able to slam my head against a massive art library, that was located arguably less than 200 meters from my bedroom/computer desk. Like WTF, why didn't I find this sooner? Anyways, soon after finding the place, I began spending a few hours a day there, reading through and copying from books, written and illustrated by artists with 1000 times the knowledge I currently have. That is about where I am now.
In terms of actually drawing, here is a rough time line. Soon after moving away from ponies (which I still draw from time to time), I aimlessly drew whatever tutorials or ideas that came to mind. I did all the perspective drills that Saurabhinator provided me, but in the end, I simply did not have enough motivational direction in order to get stuff done. This is when Saurabhinator informed me that I had to select a topic matter to draw. He listed a number: Architecture, Figure drawing, Landscape, Vehicles, and so on. He basically told me to pick two and focus just on them.
To make a SC2 analogy, this would be like learning mechanics and strategy by playing one race first, rather than trying to learn the basics with my time split between all three races. Eventually, my basic motor skills and general knowledge of the game should make learning the other two races easy at a later time.
Being that I am a civil engineer, I figured, why don't i do architecture? Herp derp, no work that way. Perspective and straight lines can make a man cry. I struggled very much with this, and even though Saurabhinator provided short term and achievable objectives, the thought of struggling with drawing a structure irked me. Still, I fought through a while and kept drawing.
Eventually though, my ladder anxie... i meant drawing anxiety over took my willingness to keep drawing. So instead, I found a guide on conceptart.org that covered the basics of good line drawing, basic 3d shapes and easy shading. In terms of absolute basic mechanics, this guide was perhaps one of the most useful that I have yet so far used. I spent a good month or so just doing nothing but these drills, and the results showed. My lines were becoming more confident and straighter. Always a good thing I say! Unfortunately, doing the same thing over and over again means that eventually, you just stop improving. "But Agony, doing 4 gate over and over again wins me teh games!" Huurrrrr. Time to learn some fast expand or something.
So I tried moving back to more architecture, hoping that what I had learned through basic mechanics might help me. It did, but I had lost my taste for structures. So instead, I decided to move on to figure drawing, which I was also originally interested in. Once again, on Conceptart.org, I found a lot of sources to copy from, considerably more so than architecture too. However, many of these "guides" were actually just other people's studies and run throughs. I could copy them, but I could only learn so much from them.
This was around when I discovered that the library next to me existed! Woot. Going in, I immediately searched for the book that had led me there, which was "constructive anatomy" by George Bridgman. "Hmmmm... anatomy? Maybe I was supposed to be a doctor like my brothers..... asian parents rofl." Since then, I have been going to the library when I can in order to practice and learn. I also picked up a couple books on perspective, since this is one of the major pillars that defines art and drawing.
Somewhere during this time I had a huge personal fight with my fingers; I didn't know how to hold the pencil properly! Originally, when I drew, I just held the pencil as I wrote. With extreme force and gripping the hell out of the tip. However, while watching pros draw, I noticed that their grips varied tremendously, but I noted that not one ever held the pencil as I did. So I went out to figure out to hold the pencil correctly. To make a long story short, in the end, I ended up making a bunch of changes, but I also learned that nothing is set in stone. There are a few rules to abide by, such as don't make fuzzy, stubby, ugly lines or be sure to draw from the elbow rather than from the wrist, but the means of achieving these rules were up to the artist. There are lots of grip styles out there, all with their own perks and disadvantages. The best advice I got for this? Learn a bunch of different ways to hold a pencil and just keep practicing. Sounds like "same old" to me.
In any case, here are a few studies/sketches that I have been doing since my last update. This is only 15 or so pages of about 200 or so I've drawn since my last update. Note general progression over time. The first images are the earliest, while the last are the most recent.
These two drawings are the ones I know for certain are the best architectural drawings i have done (from a sample size of only like.... 10-12 images). I don't know what it was, but I just took the time to draw these, even if I didn't fully complete them. Size of each paper is half a letter page.
Me drawing my hands and arms. This was not my first attempt to draw flesh and bone, but this is a good indicator of where I was around this time. (mid December). Each image = half a letter page in size.
Drills! I have dozens of these sheets. Nothing but straight lines and boxes. These aren't that great, as they were earlier on, but the point of the matter is, fundamentals! You shouldn't bother trying to triple banshee harass at 3 different bases if you can't even a-move an army properly. Each image = 2-cover letter sized page papers.
Just some sketches with concept drawings and I don't know whats and ponies. This was around when I was lacking motivational direction (again). I just didn't know what to do anymore with architecture. 2 letter sized papers.
Some of my earlier anatomy studies, before I had discovered the library next to me. I heard about Bridgman through ConceptArt, and decided to see if my library had it. Turned out it wasn't in the main library (there's like, 12 libraries on my campus), but was instead in the prior unbeknownst-to-me art library next to my dorm room. Total of 3 letter sized pages.
My Bridgman studies. Bridgman has a sort of exaggerated anatomy style when instructing in his books. This means that the extreme features seen in my images are merely copies of his, and that if I were to do a more "realistic" study/drawing, I would soften the features and make them more believable. Still, the point of the exaggeration is so that the student can properly learn all the parts of the body. Also, these drawings are considerably better than if I try to draw an image from my own mind. It's a long way until I can draw the human body properly without source material. Total 5 cover letter sized pages.
Before I close off this update, I just want to note that a very important aspect of drawing, like anything, is a lot of practice. This is true for all things skilled based, from playing an instrument to playing SC2 like a baws. The thing is, because the physical and mental requirements of drawing is not too demanding, like heavy weightlifting would be, it is possible to draw upwards to 12 hours a day, barring ADD type issues. For this reason, many teachers of art suggest keeping a sketchbook on my person at all times, and I try to keep to this. I have some 3 or so "sketchbooks". One consists of a huge stack of letter pages, which I keep the most track of. Another is a binder full of cheap ruled paper, which I draw whatever the hell I want, as poorly or well as I want, on right before I sleep. The last is the small, half a letter page in sized actual sketchbook that I only use when I travel.
What does this mean for you guys? It means that if you wanna be good at something, you're gonna have to work! Bwahahaha (sucks i know don't it? lol). And usually, hard work comes in the form of practicing, even if it means doing a drill that you absolutely abhor and suffer immense pain from doing. Still, if it is your hobby opposed to the job you absolutely hate and do only because you need money, then the joys of whatever you do should easily turn the hard work into an enjoyable experience.
Lastly, to mah brony friends. Don't think that just because I no longer draw ponies that I do not love you guys anymore! In fact, the drawfriends on EQD and the images/vectors/music/drawings/fanfics/etc you guys and the entire brony community encourage and inspire me every day! I hope that someday, once I have learned to draw properly, I will be able to return simply to produce some fun and awesome art for MLP:FiM.
That's all for now. Agony out.
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As many of the frequenters of the IRC channel know, I have made the commitment to learn how to draw ponies! This endevour began some 3 weeks ago and I have since then not gone a single day without drawing or sketching something (except for today; this post will replace my drawing for tonight.) In less than three weeks time, I have invested at least 90 to 100 hours and I have a tablet on the way! I have also enrolled myself in an intro drawing course for the next semester and plan on taking this as far as I can go.
Why I am posting this?
The first reason I am making this blog is for the service of the TL brony community. I've been promising to show them my sketchbook for a while now, and I figured TG break would be the best time to work on it. To any non-bronies viewing this, I apologize for making yet another MLP:FiM page on the TL site, but the magnitude was simply too much to post as a single post in the main thread. Also, if you plan on reading through, just keep in mind that there may be references you will not know. Lastly, I do recommend you stop by the main thread to take a look. I promise you, we are a normal and quite fun group of TLers, and we will never give you trouble if you don't genuinely enjoy the show or don't care for the fandom.
The other reason I decided to do this is that when I challenged other bronies to take up the art of drawing (as many had taken up fanfic writing), many people have commented "You draw to much better than me" or "I couldn't do it". Well, I'm posting this to show you how I started and how I felt. I was in the same exact position, too scared to draw despite wanting to. Once I finally broke that spell and got started, things kind of fell into place quickly. I still am far from being even mediocre, but I'm also no longer a clueless noob who couldn't draw a simple object to save his life. This does not only apply to those interested in drawing ponies either! Any and everypony (or one) that has wanted to try drawing, I say try it! If you find you are passionate enough, what did you lose? Not much I'd say. But if you are truly interested and want to go on, this is a hobby that is never, and I mean NEVER, restricted to anyone. All you need is a pencil and a notebook. From there, the internet will be your guide.
Also, for those still asking "why ponies?" Another very good reason for me to start drawing ponies is that they are very simple and easy to draw. It's a great place to start!
What will I be posting?
Since I have produced "drawings" (if I can call it that) on each day since I've begun, what you will find the post will be a date, followed by two spoilers. The first spoiler will contain images from drawings that I did that day. Right below it, I will be providing my personal "diary" entries for that day. However, keep in mind that I did not actually keep a written journal on my work. Instead, everything that I will be writing will be my personal reflection and recollection of what I thought and felt that day, along with my motivation for drawing, my discoveries and any little nuance that I found particurally interesting.
Quick notes
Before I move on to the actual images, I want to talk about my personal connection to the TLBronies community. I won't talk about my personal interest and why I love MLP:FiM, as I imagine my images will speak more than words will, but I do wish to acknowledge the awesome community we have and how the great the people in it are. Throughout the past 3 weeks, nearly all my support and aid has come through chatting with everypony in the IRC channel. It truly is an awesome hangout place, where the members are always passionate and socialble enough to have a light and fun chat about anything from terrible puns to SC2 gaming. If you're snooping around the MLP:FiM thread, I highly recommend you stop by the IRC as well. It is, without any doubt, a very integral part of the thread. At the moment, I don't want to make any shoutouts, as I'd be afraid to miss anyone, but as I continue on to my journal entries, certain ponies will inevitably come up as sources of inspiration and encouragement.
On a side note, you will notice quite a bit of German. If you can speak the language or are learning it, don't bother reading it, because I am a German second language student who has a knack for word choice error. Most of them were my own personal notes and crappy translations that I threw together. I tend to do this when I'm thinking a lot. It's just more fun than writing in English :D. Also, despite bitching about German class several times throughout this post, I actually love the language, culture and the classes I'm in. So don't think I'm bashing on the German language too much lol.
Lastly, I just want to note that I am completely open to any critiques and hope that anypony (artist or not, fanatic brony or causual) to provide insight on what I could potentially improve. To put it simply, I will never improve unless I am placed under some kind of pressure.
Day 1: Nov. 6th, 2011
Beginnings: The Mare-athon
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The Best Night EVER! Or rather entire day and then some. Everypony who is anypony will easily remember this day as the single greatest brony accomplishment in the history of TL. Up until this point, I had seen endless art and read hundreds of thousands of words worth of Ponism. By the time the mare-athon started, I was already itching to create and produce for the community, but I was not willing to make the time commitment. I had too many other things to worry about and I didn't want to fall into trap. Two things, however, changed my mind: the first being the extreme enthusiasm shown by the TLBrony community and, second, Gary Muther Fucking Oak. To explain the latter, I was one of the first (or at least I like to think I was) to be a reader for Gary Oak's fanfic. Reading his work and watching him progress through a story that HE himself made with his own hooves thoroughly amazed me. And the process of editing and trying to be creative in order to critique or add to his story gave me a small taste of pony creation. Soon after, I wanted so bad to contribute my own art. It would be right after the Mare-athon that I decided I needed to jump in now or never. After the show was over, I stayed up with Gary, Kly, Kunst (i think) and Frek, along with a number of others who were hanging out and asked for requests. With hardly any drawing knowledge prior to, I jumped right into it.
As is the case with any art or artist, the first step is always going to be IMITATION. The source of my imitation? Ponychan art tutorial.
Ponychan Tutorial
This image would and continues to act as one of my largest used references for drawing ponies. I could not have hoped for a better, more simplistic yet informative tutorial. Sure there are some points not elaborated on, but it was nothing I could not figure out with patience and work.
Still, despite having this excellent reference, my drawings were nothing short of pathetic. I did not properly follow the guide and drew entirely by sense of where I thought things should stand. If I were a more impulsive man, I would have burned all those images already.
And if you believe you are seeing a Nazi Fluttershy, you are correct. This was the first request I recieved on IRC. Thanks Kly .
Also, another funny fact. The ONLY Rarity I have drawn to date is on this day. Kerrigan Rarity on the second page. I avoid her like the plague because I don't want to try drawing her hair. I should probably stop being lazy and get to it.
The Best Night EVER! Or rather entire day and then some. Everypony who is anypony will easily remember this day as the single greatest brony accomplishment in the history of TL. Up until this point, I had seen endless art and read hundreds of thousands of words worth of Ponism. By the time the mare-athon started, I was already itching to create and produce for the community, but I was not willing to make the time commitment. I had too many other things to worry about and I didn't want to fall into trap. Two things, however, changed my mind: the first being the extreme enthusiasm shown by the TLBrony community and, second, Gary Muther Fucking Oak. To explain the latter, I was one of the first (or at least I like to think I was) to be a reader for Gary Oak's fanfic. Reading his work and watching him progress through a story that HE himself made with his own hooves thoroughly amazed me. And the process of editing and trying to be creative in order to critique or add to his story gave me a small taste of pony creation. Soon after, I wanted so bad to contribute my own art. It would be right after the Mare-athon that I decided I needed to jump in now or never. After the show was over, I stayed up with Gary, Kly, Kunst (i think) and Frek, along with a number of others who were hanging out and asked for requests. With hardly any drawing knowledge prior to, I jumped right into it.
As is the case with any art or artist, the first step is always going to be IMITATION. The source of my imitation? Ponychan art tutorial.
Ponychan Tutorial
This image would and continues to act as one of my largest used references for drawing ponies. I could not have hoped for a better, more simplistic yet informative tutorial. Sure there are some points not elaborated on, but it was nothing I could not figure out with patience and work.
Still, despite having this excellent reference, my drawings were nothing short of pathetic. I did not properly follow the guide and drew entirely by sense of where I thought things should stand. If I were a more impulsive man, I would have burned all those images already.
And if you believe you are seeing a Nazi Fluttershy, you are correct. This was the first request I recieved on IRC. Thanks Kly .
Also, another funny fact. The ONLY Rarity I have drawn to date is on this day. Kerrigan Rarity on the second page. I avoid her like the plague because I don't want to try drawing her hair. I should probably stop being lazy and get to it.
Day 2: Nov. 7th, 2011
Scale: Getting Big
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Day[9] continues his descent into madness. Behind the eyes of Daniel and with the companionship of Manfred, he will solve the puzzle known as Amnesia.
On the second day, I noticed that I all the images I had drawn they day before were extremely small. No doubt a result of my fear of making errors. The smaller the images, the harder to see mistakes. The problem naturally following, is that no one would be able to see the details either.
Once again, I have GaryOak to thank for forcing me GET BIG. He requested a picture for his fanfic. Not wishing to dissappoint, I felt the responsibility to make a larger image. This forced me to draw correctly and to follow the tutorial the day before very carefully. Although 20 days later I am not impressed at all at what I had drawn, I'm glad to know that it was a brave step into the cold, unforgiving world.
Day[9] continues his descent into madness. Behind the eyes of Daniel and with the companionship of Manfred, he will solve the puzzle known as Amnesia.
On the second day, I noticed that I all the images I had drawn they day before were extremely small. No doubt a result of my fear of making errors. The smaller the images, the harder to see mistakes. The problem naturally following, is that no one would be able to see the details either.
Once again, I have GaryOak to thank for forcing me GET BIG. He requested a picture for his fanfic. Not wishing to dissappoint, I felt the responsibility to make a larger image. This forced me to draw correctly and to follow the tutorial the day before very carefully. Although 20 days later I am not impressed at all at what I had drawn, I'm glad to know that it was a brave step into the cold, unforgiving world.
Day 3: Nov. 8th, 2011
Hiatus
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I think I had a German paper or something like that to finish this day.
Two points:
Frek = Octaviaphile
Drawing Ponies = FFFFFFUUUUUUUU
I think I had a German paper or something like that to finish this day.
Two points:
Frek = Octaviaphile
Drawing Ponies = FFFFFFUUUUUUUU
Day 4: Nov. 9th, 2011
Proportions: Does this Artist Make My Ass Look Big?
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This was a big day for me. Once again, it began once again with my beautiful and magnificant muse, GaryOak. He asked me to draw again, and once again, I did not wish to dissappoint.
And yet again, more issues. The proportions were all off! The head was much too large and the legs way too short. I drew a few more requests, but eventually I just found that my images were monstrosities with overbearing heads stationed upon fragile, emaciated bodies. I needed to remedy this quick, and I did so by refering yet again to the tutorial page from Ponychan. For the next 5 hours or so, I did nothing but sketch bodies and poses with one thing in mind - proportions.
Even more important, I learned the need to practice and improve by repition. It was fun drawing requests for people on IRC, but simply put, there was no way I could produce enough bodies for my needs to improve. I sacrificed momentary quality for quantity, and the payouts were HUGE.
Also on this day, I began to crudely copies from images from the show. At first, I felt cheap for doing so. I later found it was helpful for self instructing. There's much to learn from imitation, which is why it is very useful for the new artist.
Regarding the Twilight on page 4. I need to headshot that bitch. Picture looks hopeless.
This was a big day for me. Once again, it began once again with my beautiful and magnificant muse, GaryOak. He asked me to draw again, and once again, I did not wish to dissappoint.
And yet again, more issues. The proportions were all off! The head was much too large and the legs way too short. I drew a few more requests, but eventually I just found that my images were monstrosities with overbearing heads stationed upon fragile, emaciated bodies. I needed to remedy this quick, and I did so by refering yet again to the tutorial page from Ponychan. For the next 5 hours or so, I did nothing but sketch bodies and poses with one thing in mind - proportions.
Even more important, I learned the need to practice and improve by repition. It was fun drawing requests for people on IRC, but simply put, there was no way I could produce enough bodies for my needs to improve. I sacrificed momentary quality for quantity, and the payouts were HUGE.
Also on this day, I began to crudely copies from images from the show. At first, I felt cheap for doing so. I later found it was helpful for self instructing. There's much to learn from imitation, which is why it is very useful for the new artist.
Regarding the Twilight on page 4. I need to headshot that bitch. Picture looks hopeless.
Day 5: Nov. 10th, 2011
Blissful, Naive Complacency: Testing Out the New Proportions
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This day was not particurally special. I was merely trying out the techniques that I had been working on the day before. With proper proportions, copying images became infinitely easier and better (look at those two twilights! Almost perfect if I may say). At the same time though, I began noticing massive failures in detail work in my own work, in which I was working without references. Sure the head to body ratios were correct, but eye size, leg directions, hair placement and a huge slew of things were just... off.
Still, I was happy to see considerable improvement.
By the way. Take note of the two Octavias (which was yet again requested by Frek). The two images were basically the same. One which I did at the start of the day (the one on top), and the other I did at the end of the day. I spent much of the day thinking about the face and perspective. I was frustrated to find that my old image was so poorly done that I completely redid it. Looking back, I know I stopped worrying about perspectives thereafter and I am happy to say, I am not that happy with either image anymore.
This day was not particurally special. I was merely trying out the techniques that I had been working on the day before. With proper proportions, copying images became infinitely easier and better (look at those two twilights! Almost perfect if I may say). At the same time though, I began noticing massive failures in detail work in my own work, in which I was working without references. Sure the head to body ratios were correct, but eye size, leg directions, hair placement and a huge slew of things were just... off.
Still, I was happy to see considerable improvement.
By the way. Take note of the two Octavias (which was yet again requested by Frek). The two images were basically the same. One which I did at the start of the day (the one on top), and the other I did at the end of the day. I spent much of the day thinking about the face and perspective. I was frustrated to find that my old image was so poorly done that I completely redid it. Looking back, I know I stopped worrying about perspectives thereafter and I am happy to say, I am not that happy with either image anymore.
Day 6: Nov. 11th, 2011
Blissful, Naive Complacency 2: Not much new today
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Same thing this day as the day before. I honestly thought I was hot shit or something working here. Unfortunately, pride can be a negative thing. My strokes got lazy and I thought that I could simly sketch like the pros. However, it would not be for another week and a half until I would discover the effect I was searching for when doing simple sketches. For now, everything is just a huge jumble of new poses and faces I wanted to draw. Apart from the images I copied from the actual show, there is a general lack of consistancy, but what did I care, I thought I was... "hot shit".
This complacency actually stood for a long time and would stick with me for a week or so. I will say though, despite looking back and not liking much of my old stuff, I am still a fan of that Scoots bungiejumping. Maybe I'll have to try and redraw it at some point.
Same thing this day as the day before. I honestly thought I was hot shit or something working here. Unfortunately, pride can be a negative thing. My strokes got lazy and I thought that I could simly sketch like the pros. However, it would not be for another week and a half until I would discover the effect I was searching for when doing simple sketches. For now, everything is just a huge jumble of new poses and faces I wanted to draw. Apart from the images I copied from the actual show, there is a general lack of consistancy, but what did I care, I thought I was... "hot shit".
This complacency actually stood for a long time and would stick with me for a week or so. I will say though, despite looking back and not liking much of my old stuff, I am still a fan of that Scoots bungiejumping. Maybe I'll have to try and redraw it at some point.
Day 7: Nov. 12th, 2011
Blissful, Naive Complacency 3: Not much new today, 'cept WH40k
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Silly of me, to think I was ready to take on 40k. I was wholly inspired by the artist Sanity-X, who does a lot of 40k cross Pony images. This one in specific set me on course to try doing some of my own:
Sanity-X Pony40k Images
For the rest of the day, I just drew whatever I wanted. Yet again with a very complacent, settled mindest. This day was fun while it lasted, but now I think I could have done much better had I thought to try and improve.
Also, since everyone was playing Skyrim, I figured I'd give it a go (drawing wise). I learned here that standing poses were not easy :-p. I still have not learned the proportionals correctly as of today. However, this should now simply be a matter of figuring it out and practicing.
Silly of me, to think I was ready to take on 40k. I was wholly inspired by the artist Sanity-X, who does a lot of 40k cross Pony images. This one in specific set me on course to try doing some of my own:
Sanity-X Pony40k Images
For the rest of the day, I just drew whatever I wanted. Yet again with a very complacent, settled mindest. This day was fun while it lasted, but now I think I could have done much better had I thought to try and improve.
Also, since everyone was playing Skyrim, I figured I'd give it a go (drawing wise). I learned here that standing poses were not easy :-p. I still have not learned the proportionals correctly as of today. However, this should now simply be a matter of figuring it out and practicing.
Day 8: Nov. 13th, 2011
Small Discovery: Fluttershy, You Look Amazing!
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Comic Day! It can be found in the main thread here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253634¤tpage=258
This was designed to test my ability to draw. I didn't like how it looked after I scanned it, but w/e's. Learning is full of failures and you get better as a result.
Moving on...
SECOND PAGE, TOP RIGHT! Look at that Fluttershy! IT'S PERFECT.
That's what I was chanting to everyone on IRC. I don't know how much they actually cared, but I am still so proud of that image now. It was, by far, the closest I had gotten to "show perfect" without copying. Sure they eyes are a bit small, but I thought I had made it to the next level!
This was, however, NOT THE CASE. In fact, I had discovered that I was, in actuality, well short of the next phase. That picture was perfect! Why then were the rest that I drew that day being so frustrating and wrong. I had left the boring old complacency and had a new goal. Correcting the face!
Also Zephirdd kept asking for filly Twilight. I had actually drawn filly Fluttershy and Filly PinkiePie for him on Day 2, but since I never completed Twilight in that picture, I just never posted it. So instead I joked in IRC that I did not do fillies, because I was not a pedophile. Likewise in response, I drew that image in the bottom left of a filly twilight. It's fun toying around with drawing :D.
Comic Day! It can be found in the main thread here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253634¤tpage=258
This was designed to test my ability to draw. I didn't like how it looked after I scanned it, but w/e's. Learning is full of failures and you get better as a result.
Moving on...
SECOND PAGE, TOP RIGHT! Look at that Fluttershy! IT'S PERFECT.
That's what I was chanting to everyone on IRC. I don't know how much they actually cared, but I am still so proud of that image now. It was, by far, the closest I had gotten to "show perfect" without copying. Sure they eyes are a bit small, but I thought I had made it to the next level!
This was, however, NOT THE CASE. In fact, I had discovered that I was, in actuality, well short of the next phase. That picture was perfect! Why then were the rest that I drew that day being so frustrating and wrong. I had left the boring old complacency and had a new goal. Correcting the face!
Also Zephirdd kept asking for filly Twilight. I had actually drawn filly Fluttershy and Filly PinkiePie for him on Day 2, but since I never completed Twilight in that picture, I just never posted it. So instead I joked in IRC that I did not do fillies, because I was not a pedophile. Likewise in response, I drew that image in the bottom left of a filly twilight. It's fun toying around with drawing :D.
Day[9]: Nov. 14th, 2011
Busy Day: German Classes, Y U HATE ME SO MUCH?!
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ZU VIEL ZU TUN! Couldn't draw this day, no doubt because of German related ass beatings T.T. Two German classes in one semester can really get to you...
ZU VIEL ZU TUN! Couldn't draw this day, no doubt because of German related ass beatings T.T. Two German classes in one semester can really get to you...
Day 10: Nov. 15th, 2011
Faces: How Does One Express Himself?
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Expressions are very important, and I really needed to learn them. I soon became very anal about eye position, mouth position and all that jazz. Fortunately, around this time. Aranarth directed me to an image linked on EqD.
Veggie's 25 Quintessential Expressions for Adult Scoots
I started working with a couple, but by the time I recieved these, it was very late and I had class the next day. I retired for the night.
Expressions are very important, and I really needed to learn them. I soon became very anal about eye position, mouth position and all that jazz. Fortunately, around this time. Aranarth directed me to an image linked on EqD.
Veggie's 25 Quintessential Expressions for Adult Scoots
I started working with a couple, but by the time I recieved these, it was very late and I had class the next day. I retired for the night.
Day 11: Nov. 16th, 2011
Faces 2: SCOOTALOOOOOOOOOOOO
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As should be very obvious, I just started copying all the images from Veggie's work. This was very important for me. As I mentioned, imitation is very important for a learning student! For one thing, I learned 25 expressions from which I can pull from at any point! This is the only way that my characters will truly come to life! Likewise, with so many repitions I got so much practice drawing pony faces. To this day, I am 100 percent more confident drawing the 3/4's view over the front or side views. Thanks Ms. Chicken!
Also, to get a scope of how much time/effort this took, I drew for something like 5 hours the first day in order to produce 42 images. I had to wait until the next day to finish the last 8, simply because I was simply exhausted from having drawn so many faces.
The pay off was enormous though. Worth it.
As should be very obvious, I just started copying all the images from Veggie's work. This was very important for me. As I mentioned, imitation is very important for a learning student! For one thing, I learned 25 expressions from which I can pull from at any point! This is the only way that my characters will truly come to life! Likewise, with so many repitions I got so much practice drawing pony faces. To this day, I am 100 percent more confident drawing the 3/4's view over the front or side views. Thanks Ms. Chicken!
Also, to get a scope of how much time/effort this took, I drew for something like 5 hours the first day in order to produce 42 images. I had to wait until the next day to finish the last 8, simply because I was simply exhausted from having drawn so many faces.
The pay off was enormous though. Worth it.
Day 12: Nov. 17th, 2011
Faces 3: Put it to the Test
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GaryOak wins the prize! Best essay writer! Must be all the fanfic writing he does. Clopfics really do require clear and concise writing .
This day is dominated by nothing but 3/4 views of ponies. I had just practiced it for 5-6 hours straight, why not make use of it? I stretched my arms out a bit and said "I'M GONNA HAVE FUN TONIGHT". And thusly, I did.
Oh look, there's the Trixie image and description in response to Gary's post! The one where won and posted this video:
Admittingly, I was a bit sour. Not because Gary won, but because I got no small mention for my little joke image .
Still, it was meant to be done in good humor, and in good humor I shall remain! Cane wanted a serious competition, and I shouldn't have had any expectations if I was just going to throw jests around. No cups of sour, just flowers . Also, I will always tease Gary for being Gary keke.
An important discovery I did make, was that after having drawn SO many pony faces, I had more or less realized I could not make their bodies again. I don't think I had lost anything, but with the faces looking so reeeeegal (like rarity), I wanted to be more defined with their bodies. The junk I had drawn in the past days simply would not have done the trick!
Also, I started to shade at this point. I follow the same patterns with every shade I do, which is to darken the left side of every line. This is probably wrong, but until I learn proper shading and lighting, I'll stick with this. I believe this small addition adds a lot of depth to the image, especially since I'm lacking color.
GaryOak wins the prize! Best essay writer! Must be all the fanfic writing he does. Clopfics really do require clear and concise writing .
This day is dominated by nothing but 3/4 views of ponies. I had just practiced it for 5-6 hours straight, why not make use of it? I stretched my arms out a bit and said "I'M GONNA HAVE FUN TONIGHT". And thusly, I did.
Oh look, there's the Trixie image and description in response to Gary's post! The one where won and posted this video:
Admittingly, I was a bit sour. Not because Gary won, but because I got no small mention for my little joke image .
Still, it was meant to be done in good humor, and in good humor I shall remain! Cane wanted a serious competition, and I shouldn't have had any expectations if I was just going to throw jests around. No cups of sour, just flowers . Also, I will always tease Gary for being Gary keke.
An important discovery I did make, was that after having drawn SO many pony faces, I had more or less realized I could not make their bodies again. I don't think I had lost anything, but with the faces looking so reeeeegal (like rarity), I wanted to be more defined with their bodies. The junk I had drawn in the past days simply would not have done the trick!
Also, I started to shade at this point. I follow the same patterns with every shade I do, which is to darken the left side of every line. This is probably wrong, but until I learn proper shading and lighting, I'll stick with this. I believe this small addition adds a lot of depth to the image, especially since I'm lacking color.
Day 13: Nov. 18th, 2011
Bodies: A Pedestal for the Head
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I began the day practicing more heads, as I was yet again so proud of my improvemnts. Started shading a lot as well, getting used to the systematic approach I had developed the night before.
On the next page, I began drawing body poses. Like with the faces, I wanted to take a bunch of poses and simply practice them til I had perfected them. However, I noticed a small issue. I was restricted to a very 2-dimensional view. I didn't know how to rotate the bodies! At the time I thought I just needed to be exposed to more body positions, but later, I would find that proper sketching (which I mentioned before in Day 6) was the true answer. I would still not discover this for a few days. More proof that I desperately needed proper sketching is the image of octavia. I really screwed up the head to body proportion, because of one reason - I had drawn the two almost seperately and attached them at the neck. I had grown so accustomed to doing one without the other that I had forgotten how the two fit together. More mistakes, more room for improvement.
I began the day practicing more heads, as I was yet again so proud of my improvemnts. Started shading a lot as well, getting used to the systematic approach I had developed the night before.
On the next page, I began drawing body poses. Like with the faces, I wanted to take a bunch of poses and simply practice them til I had perfected them. However, I noticed a small issue. I was restricted to a very 2-dimensional view. I didn't know how to rotate the bodies! At the time I thought I just needed to be exposed to more body positions, but later, I would find that proper sketching (which I mentioned before in Day 6) was the true answer. I would still not discover this for a few days. More proof that I desperately needed proper sketching is the image of octavia. I really screwed up the head to body proportion, because of one reason - I had drawn the two almost seperately and attached them at the neck. I had grown so accustomed to doing one without the other that I had forgotten how the two fit together. More mistakes, more room for improvement.
Day 14: Nov. 19th, 2011
Back to Proportions: Restrictions of Incorrect Sketching Methodology
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MLP Providence!!!!! Nothing beats drawing ponies to SC2 streams!
This day, I returned to quanity over quality. The objective was to concentrate of body positions, quick expressions, and just ability to hash out ponies in short periods of time. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with this. What I do have a problem with, however, was my methodology. The two major errors in my methodology can be placed into two points:
Line Strokes
Up until this point, in nearly every image that I have drawn, I am guilty of a major offense. I have a tendency to hash out my lines. I don't know why, but I had always thought that artists function by means of producing haphazard strokes until the image appeared correct. You can tell this by the general thickness of my lines. Everytime I make an unplanned stroke, it is bound to be incorrect. Instead of erasing it (which would be too tedious), I simply add more and more lines until it becomes so thick that it simply encompasses the area I'm working in and, by chance of repition and minor corrections, follows a contour that I find to be correct. This simply tells me that I do not have the image in my mind properly planned out and I know this to be true (I was there... it was me). I either had no plan as to what I wanted to draw OR I was afraid that I was incapable of creating the image I was imagining. In order to compensate, I didn't think and was not deliberate. Instead, I hashed out lines and reacted as neccesary to the images that I was seeing.
Layers
I was not working with enough layers. Similar to the line strokes, I must have been too afraid to create a plan ahead of time. So instead, I used two measly layers to sketch my drawings. The frame circles... and then the rest. Basically, I'm hoping that I can simply hash out lines in order to get my character in the right position, rather than preplanning where a limb will sit or how the tail with lay.
Ultimately, these two problems are rooted in the same origin. I was either too lazy or too afraid to plan out what I was doing. Eventually, I would correct these two (or at least I think I did), but I would correct one on one day, and the other on another. When those days come, I'll dive deeper into what I should not have done and what I should have been doing. Until then though, I would not be able to produce any art from different perspectives unless I had a reference to work from. A major restriction if you ask me.
Still, at the end of the day. I produced two images that I consider to be the pinnicle of my self taught days. The AJ and Fluttershy on the second to last page. However, I could only make these two so well out of so much repition. I had literally drawn the same faces and body poses so many times that I could draw them without much difficulty. This, however, does not mean I am capable of drawing more poses and other ponies. I can't practice every pose, position and character 100 times in order to draw them semi well. It's just not practical.
Soon after, I met Saurabhinator, who is now (I consider) my biggest mentor. The RBD to my Scoots <3. One this day, he would, for one, correct a superficial error that I had been making - proportions again T.T - and more importantly, he provided fundamental exercises for me to work on. This one was the first he sent me, and it has since taught me that boxes are fucking hard to draw.
Moatddtutorials'boxes from hell
From this point though, I began to back away from drawing ponies exclusively in order to learn fundamentals, which is ultimately the step I need to take to become better artist (pony artist inclusive).
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Otherwise, this day, I literally did nothing but draw boxes. But on the very next day, I had already begun seeing the benefits. The video Saurabhinator had sent me was extremely informative and provided more than I could have imagined. I plan on watching it again sometime soon in order to help refresh me that which I have lost since.
What do boxes mean though? It means being to see and place objects in a space from a single perspective. How far they are, how they are oriented, which sides I can see, etc. And although I am not entirely certain the boxes I have drawn are correct (in fact, I see many instances of errors, even if I don't know exactly what is wrong with them), the drill still forces my mind to think in terms of three dimensional space, rather than sitting in a 2-d world like a dunce.
MLP Providence!!!!! Nothing beats drawing ponies to SC2 streams!
This day, I returned to quanity over quality. The objective was to concentrate of body positions, quick expressions, and just ability to hash out ponies in short periods of time. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with this. What I do have a problem with, however, was my methodology. The two major errors in my methodology can be placed into two points:
- Line Strokes
- Layers
Line Strokes
Up until this point, in nearly every image that I have drawn, I am guilty of a major offense. I have a tendency to hash out my lines. I don't know why, but I had always thought that artists function by means of producing haphazard strokes until the image appeared correct. You can tell this by the general thickness of my lines. Everytime I make an unplanned stroke, it is bound to be incorrect. Instead of erasing it (which would be too tedious), I simply add more and more lines until it becomes so thick that it simply encompasses the area I'm working in and, by chance of repition and minor corrections, follows a contour that I find to be correct. This simply tells me that I do not have the image in my mind properly planned out and I know this to be true (I was there... it was me). I either had no plan as to what I wanted to draw OR I was afraid that I was incapable of creating the image I was imagining. In order to compensate, I didn't think and was not deliberate. Instead, I hashed out lines and reacted as neccesary to the images that I was seeing.
Layers
I was not working with enough layers. Similar to the line strokes, I must have been too afraid to create a plan ahead of time. So instead, I used two measly layers to sketch my drawings. The frame circles... and then the rest. Basically, I'm hoping that I can simply hash out lines in order to get my character in the right position, rather than preplanning where a limb will sit or how the tail with lay.
Ultimately, these two problems are rooted in the same origin. I was either too lazy or too afraid to plan out what I was doing. Eventually, I would correct these two (or at least I think I did), but I would correct one on one day, and the other on another. When those days come, I'll dive deeper into what I should not have done and what I should have been doing. Until then though, I would not be able to produce any art from different perspectives unless I had a reference to work from. A major restriction if you ask me.
Still, at the end of the day. I produced two images that I consider to be the pinnicle of my self taught days. The AJ and Fluttershy on the second to last page. However, I could only make these two so well out of so much repition. I had literally drawn the same faces and body poses so many times that I could draw them without much difficulty. This, however, does not mean I am capable of drawing more poses and other ponies. I can't practice every pose, position and character 100 times in order to draw them semi well. It's just not practical.
Soon after, I met Saurabhinator, who is now (I consider) my biggest mentor. The RBD to my Scoots <3. One this day, he would, for one, correct a superficial error that I had been making - proportions again T.T - and more importantly, he provided fundamental exercises for me to work on. This one was the first he sent me, and it has since taught me that boxes are fucking hard to draw.
Moatddtutorials'boxes from hell
From this point though, I began to back away from drawing ponies exclusively in order to learn fundamentals, which is ultimately the step I need to take to become better artist (pony artist inclusive).
Day 15: Nov. 20th, 2011
Fundamentals: BOXORS SUXORS
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My first objective of the night was to draw "DERPY THE ARSONIST". A personal favorite of mine. A bunch of TLBronies were playing Mafia on SC2 and I opted to join in. Naturally we all choose pony names and I opted for Derpy Hooves. Lo and behold I recieved the role of Arsonist. Burning people while exclaiming nothing more sensible than "MUFFINS" is unbelievably fun, so I decided to draw her as such :D.
My first objective of the night was to draw "DERPY THE ARSONIST". A personal favorite of mine. A bunch of TLBronies were playing Mafia on SC2 and I opted to join in. Naturally we all choose pony names and I opted for Derpy Hooves. Lo and behold I recieved the role of Arsonist. Burning people while exclaiming nothing more sensible than "MUFFINS" is unbelievably fun, so I decided to draw her as such :D.
Otherwise, this day, I literally did nothing but draw boxes. But on the very next day, I had already begun seeing the benefits. The video Saurabhinator had sent me was extremely informative and provided more than I could have imagined. I plan on watching it again sometime soon in order to help refresh me that which I have lost since.
What do boxes mean though? It means being to see and place objects in a space from a single perspective. How far they are, how they are oriented, which sides I can see, etc. And although I am not entirely certain the boxes I have drawn are correct (in fact, I see many instances of errors, even if I don't know exactly what is wrong with them), the drill still forces my mind to think in terms of three dimensional space, rather than sitting in a 2-d world like a dunce.
Day 16: Nov. 21st, 2011
Applying Fundamentals: Boxes Are Actually Kinda Cool
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Here I put what I learned in Day 16 to the test! That morning I had actually sat through an hour of class and had done nothing but draw more boxes. This won't be posted, since that was in another notebook.
When I got back to my room later that day though, I started playing with boxes and different perspectives and I was mildly successful. Generally, the simpler I went, the more likely I was to get the perspective correct. However, I was still having difficulty imagining how the objects stoood in space (and I still do). This will ultimately be a huge test of my artistic ability and I hope to work on this point a lot in the coming days.
However, I need to note once again the failures of my sketching ability. The same issues of Line Strokes and Layers restrict my ability to work and think. If you notice, working in perspectives is a very hard thing to do. However, because my lines and drawings are so poorly preplanned, I end up producing images with thick lines and scratches covering the entire surface of the paper. It's impossible to work this way and I found that any errors I had made were simply unfixable in the see of graphite.
However, have no fear my fellow TLBronies! For the solutions will come in the following two days!
Also, last page is a comic I was thinking of doing. However, my need to work on fundamentals and lack of willingness to work on a project at the time has stopped me from making the comic. Perhaps in the future I wish make it for you guys.
Here I put what I learned in Day 16 to the test! That morning I had actually sat through an hour of class and had done nothing but draw more boxes. This won't be posted, since that was in another notebook.
When I got back to my room later that day though, I started playing with boxes and different perspectives and I was mildly successful. Generally, the simpler I went, the more likely I was to get the perspective correct. However, I was still having difficulty imagining how the objects stoood in space (and I still do). This will ultimately be a huge test of my artistic ability and I hope to work on this point a lot in the coming days.
However, I need to note once again the failures of my sketching ability. The same issues of Line Strokes and Layers restrict my ability to work and think. If you notice, working in perspectives is a very hard thing to do. However, because my lines and drawings are so poorly preplanned, I end up producing images with thick lines and scratches covering the entire surface of the paper. It's impossible to work this way and I found that any errors I had made were simply unfixable in the see of graphite.
However, have no fear my fellow TLBronies! For the solutions will come in the following two days!
Also, last page is a comic I was thinking of doing. However, my need to work on fundamentals and lack of willingness to work on a project at the time has stopped me from making the comic. Perhaps in the future I wish make it for you guys.
Day 17: Nov. 22nd, 2011
Fundamentals 2: Right to the Point
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I started the day off by watching more videos from the guy who made the boxes video, and I came upon this gem:
Moatddtutorials' wow that was brilliant yet oddly should've been fucking obvious video
The concept is extremely simply. How to draw a line. You draw two points, and then you do strokes in between. You might say "ORLY AGONY?!", but then again, you have to keep in mind that I was the guy that thought I was supposed to hash out a billion black lines until I found the right one.
What does this tutorial do for me? It teaches me to think and be deliberate. Deliberate is the keyword here, as I had been haphazard up until this point. Now, using this method, I have to think about what I'm doing with my lines and think about what I want the object to look like. When I draw Pinkie Pies hair, I can't say, "Oh its a bunch of half cirles, I'll just scribble here and here and here, and voila! Pinkie Hair!". Instead, I have to choose where her hair will start and where it will end. If I mischoose, no problem. I pick two points and start over.
The result? My lines are smarter and of higher quality. It sits neatly where I want it and I don't have to voice hard inkings in order to create thousands of line the conglamorate into a single massive ultraline. And honestly, after having discovered this, I believe that I was not drawing at all in the past 17 days, but being a total idiot instead.
I started the day off by watching more videos from the guy who made the boxes video, and I came upon this gem:
Moatddtutorials' wow that was brilliant yet oddly should've been fucking obvious video
The concept is extremely simply. How to draw a line. You draw two points, and then you do strokes in between. You might say "ORLY AGONY?!", but then again, you have to keep in mind that I was the guy that thought I was supposed to hash out a billion black lines until I found the right one.
What does this tutorial do for me? It teaches me to think and be deliberate. Deliberate is the keyword here, as I had been haphazard up until this point. Now, using this method, I have to think about what I'm doing with my lines and think about what I want the object to look like. When I draw Pinkie Pies hair, I can't say, "Oh its a bunch of half cirles, I'll just scribble here and here and here, and voila! Pinkie Hair!". Instead, I have to choose where her hair will start and where it will end. If I mischoose, no problem. I pick two points and start over.
The result? My lines are smarter and of higher quality. It sits neatly where I want it and I don't have to voice hard inkings in order to create thousands of line the conglamorate into a single massive ultraline. And honestly, after having discovered this, I believe that I was not drawing at all in the past 17 days, but being a total idiot instead.
Day 18: Nov. 23rd, 2011
Fundamentals 3: One More Layer Chuck Corea (And eye proportions)
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I made two important discoveries this day, one I believe to be more important than the others. The first relates to eye proportions (a detail specific improvement), and the other was properly learning how to sketch by applying drawing forms (an overarching and very important methodology).
The first point was not actually only related to the eyes. It also had to do with the maw of the pony and the entire face in general. The problem was that the face was proportionally incorrect most of the times I drew it. However, I did not realize this fact until now, simply because I had not been using point to point line drawing. Now that I had to be much more deliberate, I had to actually decisively think about how the eyes and maw sat.
However, I could not for the life of me figure out why the faces seemed so wrong. On the second page, I drew Rainbow Dashes face over and over again, trying to discern what was so wrong about it. I finally figured it out though, when I looked images from the show. The problem was that I had been spending too much time thinking about the mouth, and not enough thinking about the eyes.
The eyes have a certain relationship to one another in the 3/4's pony face view. The rear eye length actually tends to have a ratio of 3 to 10 with the front eye. My eyes at the time had a relationhip of about 2 to 1 or 3 to 2. You can see in the two Twilights I drew at the bottom, what I foudn was correct and what I found was incorrect. And, upon having discovered this, I finally realized why I'm so bothered by the works of Solar-Slash. Take a look:
Solar-Slash Eyes of Terror
Note what Solar-Slash ALWAYS does in his MLP images. He exposes so much of the rear eye that you can see part of the ponies flesh again. This doesn't occur EVER in the show or any of the good artists' renditions. Why is that? Now look at their noses. A little warped right? They a tad too long in my opinion, and the mouth tends to have a certain length to width ratio. I think he tends to violate it (not always, but he has a tendecy towards long noses). Why is this? because another point to note is that the nose must always sit slightly beyond the both sets of eyes in the 3/4's view! If this is not the case, the pony will begin to look a bit more like a human. This means that the more rear eye you show, the longer you nose has to be. If you wanna keep a correct ratio for the maw, you would then need to increase the height of the mouth. This was exactly what I had done in many of my images and why I was so bothered by the mouth. Having made this discovery, I felt as if I could finally put the Fluttershy quest from day 8 to rest. It only took 9 days, not too bad I guess.
Despite how long winded that was, that was a MINOR point! Remember, this is a small detail very specific to a singular cartoon series, namely, MLP:FiM. More important for me at the moment are fundamentals; things that I can apply to all aspects of drawing. And this I can credit to the tumbler RarityReplies.
The drawer of Rarityreplies has dropped his/her project for a while, stating that he/she was not feeling her images were good enough when colored. Instead, he/she opted to start another tumbler, which you check out from this link:
http://bambooharvester.tumblr.com/
BambooHarvester aka RarityReplies
I'm am very grateful that this artist opted to show the world his/her sketches, since it has allowed me to figure out how sketches SHOULD function. The key thing I noted was that his/her underlayer had both the basic cirlce framework, along with the general pose of the entire pony, where the hair laid and all that good stuff. Looking back at mine, I had three circles and that was it. So while this tumbler had a hundred reference lines (made by his/her own hand) to work with, I was playing guessing games with myself. So I learned, that rather than taking too much of the image at once, I need to develop a form. A layer that will have every line of the pony without worry of overlapping or errors. After, I could trace back over the parts I liked and create a cleaner, smoother and better thought out pony. Having learned this, I had to spend a little more time drawing every pony I did, but picturing poses and making it come life suddenly became 1000 times easier.
This point, along with the point to point drawing system, has taught me how to be an animator. Now, I am basically back to step 1. I now need to relearn everything I had worked on, except for using these two techniques. Once I have finally done so, I will then be able to create and bring life to the ponies, rather than have them sit lifelessly on the paper.
I made two important discoveries this day, one I believe to be more important than the others. The first relates to eye proportions (a detail specific improvement), and the other was properly learning how to sketch by applying drawing forms (an overarching and very important methodology).
The first point was not actually only related to the eyes. It also had to do with the maw of the pony and the entire face in general. The problem was that the face was proportionally incorrect most of the times I drew it. However, I did not realize this fact until now, simply because I had not been using point to point line drawing. Now that I had to be much more deliberate, I had to actually decisively think about how the eyes and maw sat.
However, I could not for the life of me figure out why the faces seemed so wrong. On the second page, I drew Rainbow Dashes face over and over again, trying to discern what was so wrong about it. I finally figured it out though, when I looked images from the show. The problem was that I had been spending too much time thinking about the mouth, and not enough thinking about the eyes.
The eyes have a certain relationship to one another in the 3/4's pony face view. The rear eye length actually tends to have a ratio of 3 to 10 with the front eye. My eyes at the time had a relationhip of about 2 to 1 or 3 to 2. You can see in the two Twilights I drew at the bottom, what I foudn was correct and what I found was incorrect. And, upon having discovered this, I finally realized why I'm so bothered by the works of Solar-Slash. Take a look:
Solar-Slash Eyes of Terror
Note what Solar-Slash ALWAYS does in his MLP images. He exposes so much of the rear eye that you can see part of the ponies flesh again. This doesn't occur EVER in the show or any of the good artists' renditions. Why is that? Now look at their noses. A little warped right? They a tad too long in my opinion, and the mouth tends to have a certain length to width ratio. I think he tends to violate it (not always, but he has a tendecy towards long noses). Why is this? because another point to note is that the nose must always sit slightly beyond the both sets of eyes in the 3/4's view! If this is not the case, the pony will begin to look a bit more like a human. This means that the more rear eye you show, the longer you nose has to be. If you wanna keep a correct ratio for the maw, you would then need to increase the height of the mouth. This was exactly what I had done in many of my images and why I was so bothered by the mouth. Having made this discovery, I felt as if I could finally put the Fluttershy quest from day 8 to rest. It only took 9 days, not too bad I guess.
Despite how long winded that was, that was a MINOR point! Remember, this is a small detail very specific to a singular cartoon series, namely, MLP:FiM. More important for me at the moment are fundamentals; things that I can apply to all aspects of drawing. And this I can credit to the tumbler RarityReplies.
The drawer of Rarityreplies has dropped his/her project for a while, stating that he/she was not feeling her images were good enough when colored. Instead, he/she opted to start another tumbler, which you check out from this link:
http://bambooharvester.tumblr.com/
BambooHarvester aka RarityReplies
I'm am very grateful that this artist opted to show the world his/her sketches, since it has allowed me to figure out how sketches SHOULD function. The key thing I noted was that his/her underlayer had both the basic cirlce framework, along with the general pose of the entire pony, where the hair laid and all that good stuff. Looking back at mine, I had three circles and that was it. So while this tumbler had a hundred reference lines (made by his/her own hand) to work with, I was playing guessing games with myself. So I learned, that rather than taking too much of the image at once, I need to develop a form. A layer that will have every line of the pony without worry of overlapping or errors. After, I could trace back over the parts I liked and create a cleaner, smoother and better thought out pony. Having learned this, I had to spend a little more time drawing every pony I did, but picturing poses and making it come life suddenly became 1000 times easier.
This point, along with the point to point drawing system, has taught me how to be an animator. Now, I am basically back to step 1. I now need to relearn everything I had worked on, except for using these two techniques. Once I have finally done so, I will then be able to create and bring life to the ponies, rather than have them sit lifelessly on the paper.
Day 19: Nov. 24th 2011
Applying Fundamentals 2: Putting it Altogether
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These are the last drawings I have done since having started this post. Note how much cleaner and well defined the ponies are. Still, some proportions got messed up in the process and I am ignoring all details/shading. This is the first step to moving on. Also, in order to improve myself as a general artist, I have begun returning back to things that exist in real life. This will be especially important, now that I am enrolled in an Introduction to Drawing course for the Spring.
And yes Saurabhinator, I did try to copy one of your OC ponies and failed. Also tried drawing a car and failed T.T. One day, i'll be as cool as you Rainbow Dash!
These are the last drawings I have done since having started this post. Note how much cleaner and well defined the ponies are. Still, some proportions got messed up in the process and I am ignoring all details/shading. This is the first step to moving on. Also, in order to improve myself as a general artist, I have begun returning back to things that exist in real life. This will be especially important, now that I am enrolled in an Introduction to Drawing course for the Spring.
And yes Saurabhinator, I did try to copy one of your OC ponies and failed. Also tried drawing a car and failed T.T. One day, i'll be as cool as you Rainbow Dash!
The Future
Where to Next?
At the moment I have high hopes for the future, as well as some major concerns. As you may have noticed, I have drawn an average of three pages a day, expending about 4 hours average per day. This is a lot of time for me, but spending this much time on stuff I love is not enstranged to me. I would say I am very obsessive at time, which allows me to draw and draw for hours when I have the time to. This, however, could also be my downfall. I'm not stranger to quitting due to burnout, or ironically, because I find something else I am obsessed with. As of now, I have quit my school's CSL team twice - that's right, TWICE: BW and SC2 - and I am planning on dropping out of our LoL team in the near future. I do have a reason for this, the biggest being that Winter and Spring my track season starts, meaning I lose my weekends and a lot of time during the week. I hope now that I will not give up in the end, but if I must, I hope I do because I genuinely don't have the time, rather than because I'm too lazy.
Still, I have very high hopes that I will not give up in the spring! As I stated before, I enrolled in a drawing class, meaning that at the very least I will be FORCED to draw. Even if I find I no longer have the time to do it leisurely. Likewise, MLP:FiM is not going anywhere any time soon! And so long as there is the TLBronies community, there will be those who will push me further on! Also, whereas I have been taught by my parents to feel guilty while playing games, the arts are something they never denied me. Hopefully when the guilt factor is gone, I'll have more motivation to keep going!
Also, I want to talk about Imitation. Imitation means copying already preexisting images for the sake of learning. Its the most basic thing a person can do and its the most natural learning reaction. From childhood til death, we learn by copying others. What comes after though? Inspiration. Once I learn all the basics and can draw ponies consistently, I can produce works that are ponies, but which follow my own creativity. This is where I get more wiggle room to do as a I please. However, this is still well beyond my reach, as I still have to work on so many basics, both for ponies and for fundamentals. The final step is innovation. Once I become a true artist, I will be able to create and produce what ever I wish at any point. I will be where Lauren Faust is. Free reign. This may never come, as I would no doubt need several thousand hours of hard work and practice. But if I ever make it there, I'll remember where I started. Right here on TL .
Final note to My Little Bronies
For any TLBrony, or brony in general, I want to thank you for bringing me to where I am and giving me the drive to make this commitment. And for those who have just discovered my early works, I hope you enjoyed following my up to date journal. Still, there is much for me to do, and given the enormity of this single post, I do not think I will be providing updates beyond the TL MLP:FiM thread. If I wish to become a truly good artist, I will need to minimalize any accounts or reports and simply sit down and just draw. If you saw your name throughout my texts, that means you have done something memorable for me to make note of. And for those of you that I have missed, know that you have been just as important and that I'm too much of a dumbass to remember who to thank. This is especially true to every single #TLPonies regular, as chatting with you guys is possibly the only reason I am willing to sit for so long and just draw.
In any case, thanks for joining me in my journey to become an artist! I'll see y'all back in the IRC channel *BROHOOF*