EPTwhoa, this thread is still open? O.o
Feels like a lot of "we're noobs you're expecting too much of us" vs blind elitism "macro harder you need nothing else"
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
whoa, this thread is still open? O.o Feels like a lot of "we're noobs you're expecting too much of us" vs blind elitism "macro harder you need nothing else" | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On October 11 2011 10:29 sylverfyre wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272424 whoa, this thread is still open? O.o Feels like a lot of "we're noobs you're expecting too much of us" vs blind elitism "macro harder you need nothing else" It's kind of true though. I've been in gold since SC2 release but last week I starting focusing on purely macro and now I'm constantly beating platinum players. | ||
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
On October 11 2011 10:48 jalstar wrote: It's kind of true though. I've been in gold since SC2 release but last week I starting focusing on purely macro and now I'm constantly beating platinum players. I beg to differ. It is important to also know appropriate unit compositions, hahahaha. I massed roaches vs mauraders for a long time in bronze, because they looked like they would be able to take more heavy hits. XDDDD I do think to an extent, because the macro isn't going to be that great no matter how much you work on it, it's really important to understand how to scout in the lower leagues, and how to counter your opponent. Just remembering to go check what kind of units your opponent has, and building something appropriate in response is something most bronze/silver league players forget to do regularly. Aside from that-- the thread is a load of obnoxiousness all around. -.- | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 11 2011 13:27 RedJustice wrote: I beg to differ. It is important to also know appropriate unit compositions, hahahaha. I massed roaches vs mauraders for a long time in bronze, because they looked like they would be able to take more heavy hits. XDDDD I do think to an extent, because the macro isn't going to be that great no matter how much you work on it, it's really important to understand how to scout in the lower leagues, and how to counter your opponent. Just remembering to go check what kind of units your opponent has, and building something appropriate in response is something most bronze/silver league players forget to do regularly. Aside from that-- the thread is a load of obnoxiousness all around. -.- The point is more that macro is more important than most other things casters will comment on in a cast- build orders, stutter step micro, OL placement, etc., and I did find that in most situations if you just massed units you could win. Obvsiously knowing what unit counters are is kind of important but that will lose you less games than shit macro will. | ||
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
On October 11 2011 06:45 FinnGamer wrote: Just saw DiaBoLuS got banned, well he wasn't a particular high quality poster, but he was a fellow german and not a bad WC3/SC2 player (if I remember correctly). The Post he banned for wasn't anything special + Show Spoiler + But looks like his moderation history did the rest yep, he's an EU gm. he posted the wrong pic in a somehow overheated discussion.. always trying to be funny, he has no luck with some people, it seems. (ヾ(´･ω･｀)いってらっちゃ | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On October 11 2011 06:45 FinnGamer wrote: Just saw DiaBoLuS got banned, well he wasn't a particular high quality poster, but he was a fellow german and not a bad WC3/SC2 player (if I remember correctly). The Post he banned for wasn't anything special + Show Spoiler + But looks like his moderation history did the rest Yeah it did. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186858¤tpage=34#672 Reason: Balance QQ in LR thread. You were warned. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=213210¤tpage=311#6202 Reason: You aren't helping matters with posts like this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=251427¤tpage=144#2871 Reason: You're singlehandedly ruining that LR thread. And it's not like you haven't been banned for this before. Get it together or lose your account. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273451¤tpage=488#9746 Reason: Yeah I think you've had enough chances. Your image macro reply pushed you over the edge. Bye. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2572 Posts
On October 11 2011 10:29 sylverfyre wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272424 whoa, this thread is still open? O.o Feels like a lot of "we're noobs you're expecting too much of us" vs blind elitism "macro harder you need nothing else" Yeah, the tone on both sides (myself included) could have been nicer from the start. But it's a very frustrating thread: the lower level players are basically bashing the strat forum veterans for something they don't really do (people don't just write "macro better", they post pretty detailed critiques in most cases) and then making really weirdly illogical arguments about how you don't need to macro better if you're in silver because silver players don't macro very well. Or something. I keep finding myself drawn back like a moth to flame, but I think I need to just stop opening that thing. It's not good for my blood pressure. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On October 11 2011 17:26 Probe1 wrote: To be fair the most important thing is to learn how to scout and respond to various cheeses. Then you practice the macro (concurrently) with fending off the mass cheese attack. Edit: But I completely agree with you guys, nicer tones from everyone would be much more beneficial.. but it's the internet I know what I'm asking. What for, I just worker rush every game. | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
On October 11 2011 17:52 SenorChang wrote: What for, I just worker rush every game. Could we, uh, keep it to that thread rather than this one? | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On October 11 2011 18:01 valheru wrote: Could we, uh, keep it to that thread rather than this one? Jokes What are they? | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2572 Posts
On October 11 2011 17:26 Probe1 wrote: To be fair the most important thing is to learn how to scout and respond to various cheeses. Then you practice the macro (concurrently) with fending off the mass cheese attack. Edit: But I completely agree with you guys, nicer tones from everyone would be much more beneficial.. but it's the internet I know what I'm asking. Okay, I've conceded your point in the original thread to get the conversation back where it belongs. So. How about them bans? samaNo4 was just temp banned for 1 week by Kennigit. That account was created on 2010-12-02 04:27:17 and had 173 posts. I found that one amusing, since it's totally missing a reason. Makes it look like samaNo4 was banned for having an account created on the wrong day and/or the wrong number of posts. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 11 2011 22:05 AmericanUmlaut wrote: Okay, I've conceded your point in the original thread to get the conversation back where it belongs. So. How about them bans? I found that one amusing, since it's totally missing a reason. Makes it look like samaNo4 was banned for having an account created on the wrong day and/or the wrong number of posts. That just means it was for a pattern rather than a specific post, and they didn't put in a reason, usually. Although with Kennigit, he could have just not put in a reason anyway. Edit: May be related to starting this stupid shit, with a LOT of temps for player bashing. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
Kennigit simply banned him for it, and neglected to give a reason, seeing as how it was in PMs. Usually, those sorts of PMs are hilariously nerd-angsty and are posted along with the ban message, but I figure that it just wasn't funny enough this time. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On October 11 2011 23:44 Aeres wrote: My guess is that after Kennigit closed that thread, samaNo4 flamed him through PMs about whiny little bitch shit about how OMG THAT WAS A GOOD THREAD TL MODS ARE FASCIST AND SOCIALIST BASTARDS. Kennigit simply banned him for it, and neglected to give a reason, seeing as how it was in PMs. Usually, those sorts of PMs are hilariously nerd-angsty and are posted along with the ban message, but I figure that it just wasn't funny enough this time. Haaaaaaaaaa.  | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
 I feel sad. I just got warned | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On October 12 2011 08:06 BobTheLob wrote: for what? What any good poster gets warned for. + Show Spoiler + Balance whine  I think I have been warned 4 times so far,once for balance whine,once for telling a guy he's going to get banned,for putting a douchebag in his place and for posting a meme. Every one of them was pretty much deserved(except for the meme imo,which was funny as hell and appropriate for the time and place but oh well ).Learned my lesson and try not to do the same things again I got warned for. | ||
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