TL Mafia XLV - Page 68

07:04:11< xtfftc>
07:04:05< xtfftc> of course I did
07:04:04< xtfftc> lol
07:03:55< supersoft> DUDE
07:03:54< supersoft> why didn't you read your PM
07:03:43< supersoft> sorry
07:03:40< supersoft> :D
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06:58:36< supersoft> i lost them
06:58:34< supersoft> overseer has the logs
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06:58:17< superso> hi
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03:50:50< Kurumi> just as I updated the OP
03:50:39< Kurumi> I haven't noticed
03:50:30< Kurumi> it's 3 scum to 8 town?
03:50:24< Kurumi> haha
03:50:24< Kurumi> omg
03:50:23< Kurumi> wait lol
03:38:52<@syllogism> good news town/scum, it might be lylo tomorrow!
03:38:21< Kurumi> meh
03:38:21< Kurumi> I fucked up
03:38:18< Kurumi> amazing
03:38:16< Kurumi> deadline at 14:30
03:38:01< Kurumi> derp
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03:24:27< supersoft> yo
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14:56:27< Overseer> test
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11:10:14< Nisani201> yes
10:56:35< alanismorisette> isnt this for game discussion
10:19:18< Nisani201> ?
10:16:11< Kenpachi> no u
09:54:37< Nisani201> steve jobs is dead
09:54:33< Nisani201> guise
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09:11:54< Kenpachi> we will never know now
09:10:02< ikoopla> indeed
09:09:05< Nisani201> 22
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08:36:39< wherebugsgo> those assholes
08:36:37< wherebugsgo> *too
08:36:34< wherebugsgo> sinani survived to
08:36:29< wherebugsgo> but we were dumb and let him live
08:36:25< wherebugsgo> he almsot did
08:36:20< Nisani201> right now sevryn needs to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie
08:36:18< wherebugsgo> let's lynch him tomorrow then
08:36:14< wherebugsgo> alright
08:35:55< Nisani201> I think that this is a mess... I'll probably push jcarl tomorrow
08:35:29< Nisani201> yes
08:35:25< xtfftc> you discuss the game here
08:35:22< xtfftc> ah, I'll switch to #tlmafia
08:35:06< wherebugsgo> you think jcarl is scum?
08:35:06< xtfftc> http://d30opm7hsgivgh.cloudfront.net/upload/278940311_oCGtcWlu_c.jpg
08:35:03< wherebugsgo> yo
08:34:58< Nisani201> WHUTSUP WHEREBUGSGO
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08:34:23< supersoft> cu
08:34:23< supersoft> have a good nigt
08:34:18< supersoft> i believe we did the right thing today
08:34:11< supersoft> guys
08:34:09< supersoft> okay
08:23:51< supersoft> :D
08:23:50< supersoft> lol
08:23:46< risknuke> His parents might have gotten mad his up late and pulled the plug
08:23:36< supersoft> NOTHING
08:23:35< supersoft> AAAAH
08:23:33< ikoopla> durhp
08:23:31< ikoopla> poland
08:23:28< risknuke> and where is he from?
08:23:24< ikoopla> he's like 16
08:23:24< supersoft> dunno
08:23:22< xtfftc> quick, supersoft, go refresh the thread!
08:23:20< risknuke> how old is he?
08:23:19< ikoopla> passed out
08:23:17< xtfftc> and will show up any moment now
08:23:12< xtfftc> so he's probably fallen asleep unexpectedly
08:23:01< xtfftc> he was awake five minutes before the deadline
08:22:22< ikoopla> either way, he has my deepmost respect
08:22:13< ikoopla> i wonder if kurumi is really asleep or if he's just trolling you
08:21:49< xtfftc> no hope
08:21:48< xtfftc> no hope
08:21:47< xtfftc> no hope
08:21:44< xtfftc> and folded flags
08:21:40< xtfftc> just caskets
08:21:37< supersoft> :D
08:21:36< supersoft> it's OVER
08:21:32< xtfftc> just folded flags
08:21:30< xtfftc> no hope
08:21:29< supersoft> you just want to save jcarl with that schrödingerclaim
08:21:08< supersoft> :D
08:21:08< supersoft> dont try to fool me with that schrödingerstuff
08:20:54< supersoft> :D
08:20:54< supersoft> and you know your role
08:20:50< supersoft> your scum
08:20:48< supersoft> :D
08:20:47< supersoft> xt
08:20:16< xtfftc> http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Surprised - Amazed/Gasp.png
08:19:35< ikoopla> you don't know anything yet
08:19:24< xtfftc> I know you're not in the game anymore, prplz
08:19:22< ikoopla> blame NC
08:19:16< supersoft> :D
08:19:15< ikoopla> i didn't vote for you no
08:19:13< xtfftc> ever
08:19:12< xtfftc> that's the first time I got lynched
08:19:10< ikoopla> well since i'm dead
08:19:07< xtfftc> I just feel angsty
08:19:04< xtfftc> not that you voted or me or anything
08:18:59< ikoopla> well that's kinda rude
08:18:48< xtfftc> no!
08:18:45< xtfftc> hmmmmm
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08:18:29< ikoopla> i'm not in the game
08:18:24< ikoopla> can you at least PM me
08:18:10< xtfftc> never read my PM, justl ike GM
08:18:03< xtfftc> I'm Schrödinger's cat, after all
08:17:53< supersoft> ^_^
08:17:44< ikoopla> like to the brink
08:17:39< ikoopla> this game is so full of derp
08:17:28< xtfftc> can't wait to see what I flipped
08:17:24< xtfftc> and kind of annoyed
08:17:19< xtfftc> I'm surprised kitaman isn't around
08:16:38< supersoft> yep
08:16:31< supersoft> suffered pretty badly
08:16:25< risknuke> guys lets make a pact, the next mafia game we play with kurumi, we lynch him as payback yeah
08:16:12< supersoft> - i am talking about the button -
08:16:02< supersoft> this poor guy
08:15:59< supersoft> when i press the F5 button
08:15:50< supersoft> my head exploded every 3 minutes
08:15:42< supersoft> and now
08:15:40< supersoft> lol
08:15:19< risknuke> and then kurumi went to sleep
08:15:12< supersoft> and my head exploded
08:15:10< risknuke> ehm no, we were gonna lynch sevryn, then they pulled a last 10 minute switch to xtffx
08:15:09< xtfftc> I'm dead
08:15:08< xtfftc> I'm not really here
08:15:06< supersoft> he just posted a musicvideo
08:14:58< supersoft> there he is
08:14:55< supersoft> :D
08:14:42< xtfftc> (ahem)
08:14:38< supersoft> :D
08:14:37< supersoft> and found xt
08:14:33< supersoft> we searched another lynch candidate
08:14:23< supersoft> after that
08:14:18< Nisani201> i'm talkign about the irc discussion
08:14:16< supersoft> but did it at 22:40
08:14:13< Nisani201> i know that stuff
08:14:03< supersoft> he refuse to do it
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08:13:59< supersoft> i went crazy and forced forumite to aim sev
08:13:49< supersoft> y
08:13:48< supersoft> summar
08:13:46< supersoft> okay
08:13:43< supersoft> hi nisani
08:13:41< Overseer> care to summarize?
08:13:20< supersoft> AND IT'S A MESS
08:13:18< Overseer> fuck you guise
08:13:14< Overseer> and now i have like a gazillion lines of irc to read
08:13:05< Overseer> i just got home
08:13:03< Overseer> omfg
08:13:01< supersoft> it's more comlicated
08:12:54< supersoft> but yea
08:12:44< supersoft> :D
08:12:43< supersoft> ah bad example
08:12:16< supersoft> Es ist dessen Sache
08:11:59< supersoft> or
08:11:56< supersoft> Die Sache gehört dem
08:11:43< supersoft> you can say
08:11:40< supersoft> if you want to say "this is his thing"
08:11:29< supersoft> you need more words
08:11:25< supersoft> genitiv is a little bit more complicated
08:09:45< supersoft> so funny
08:09:39< supersoft> this guy
08:09:33< wherebugsgo_> lool
08:09:30< supersoft> :D
08:09:29< supersoft> i never heard a dativ out of him
08:09:22< supersoft> i have one university professor
08:09:11< wherebugsgo_> I see
08:09:11< supersoft> not really
08:09:05< supersoft> it really depends on the educationlevel
08:09:03< wherebugsgo_> no real correlation?
08:08:54< supersoft> i dont think so
08:08:40< wherebugsgo_> do younger people use dativ more?
08:08:35< wherebugsgo_> oh btw super
08:08:23< wherebugsgo_> I don't hold much hope haha
08:08:19< wherebugsgo_> but
08:08:17< wherebugsgo_> so good
08:08:15< wherebugsgo_> through that vote switch
08:08:14< supersoft> OH LORD
08:08:11< wherebugsgo_> LOL if we lynched scum
08:08:08< xtfftc> you don't deserve to find out
08:07:59< supersoft> scumbag :D
08:07:58< wherebugsgo_> probably scum
08:07:55< wherebugsgo_> -_-
08:07:52< supersoft> he won't tell us
08:07:40< wherebugsgo_> xt what are you
08:07:36< wherebugsgo_> LOl
08:07:29< risknuke> this retard lynch wont even get an answer
08:07:27< xtfftc> no kitaman either?
08:07:26< supersoft> yep
08:07:21< wherebugsgo_> oh lool
08:07:19< supersoft> :D
08:07:19< risknuke> seriously?
08:07:19< supersoft> and the not so educated ones
08:07:13< supersoft> the educated people use genitive
08:07:04< supersoft> it's more like
08:06:58< ikoopla> no daypost until tomorrow
08:06:56< supersoft> but
08:06:52< ikoopla> kurumi is asleep
08:06:50< supersoft> people in the south definetely
08:06:48< ikoopla> sorry guys
08:06:41< wherebugsgo_> who uses dativ more?
08:06:40< wherebugsgo_> people in the north?
08:06:34< wherebugsgo_> ja
08:06:30< supersoft> :D
08:06:28< supersoft> Südwestdeutschland
08:06:19< supersoft> Baden-Württemberg
08:06:12< supersoft> Kurpfalz zu Baden
08:06:11< wherebugsgo_> ah nice
08:06:08< wherebugsgo_> you use genitive
08:06:06< wherebugsgo_> but in writing
08:06:06< supersoft> i am from heidelberg
08:06:04< wherebugsgo_> ah
08:06:01< supersoft> i use it more often
08:05:53< supersoft> when speaking
08:05:45< xtfftc> I want you to suffer
08:05:38< supersoft> when writing something
08:05:37< wherebugsgo_> where in Germany are you from?
08:05:36< xtfftc> no way I'm sparing you from the suspense
08:05:31< wherebugsgo_> ah
08:05:27< supersoft> i dont use it much
08:05:21< supersoft> depends on the germans
08:05:14< wherebugsgo_> ?
08:05:12< wherebugsgo_> about germans not using dative much
08:05:06< wherebugsgo_> were you actually serious
08:05:04< supersoft> mh?
08:04:53< wherebugsgo_> super
08:04:25< supersoft> mine is broken now
08:04:22< supersoft> pff
08:04:21< wherebugsgo_> lol
08:03:13< risknuke> and my scrollingwheel
08:02:37< risknuke> fucking, im gonna brake my f5 key
08:02:21< wherebugsgo_> lawl
08:02:10< ikoopla> kurumi fell asleep
08:02:05< wherebugsgo_> sorry for the game being so retarded lol
08:02:00< wherebugsgo_> byee
08:01:45< xtfftc> I won't reply to anything anymore, gl
08:01:13< wherebugsgo_> tense
08:01:06< wherebugsgo_> god I can't wait
08:00:57< wherebugsgo_> lol
07:59:53< xtfftc> it's your own fault for not being brave enough to kill the scum
07:59:40< supersoft> :-O
07:59:36< supersoft> YOUR KILLING ME
07:59:33< supersoft> XTFFTC
07:59:28< xtfftc> bye everyone
07:59:19< xtfftc> just in time
07:59:18< xtfftc> ah, the last scum showed up
07:59:11< wherebugsgo_> no chance of anyone else dying now
07:59:03< wherebugsgo_> ah he's hammereed
07:58:45< wherebugsgo_> LOL erandorr shows up
07:58:44< supersoft> we did that in AA too
07:58:38< supersoft> yes indeed
07:58:28< wherebugsgo_> the craziest shit ever
07:58:21< wherebugsgo_> we just pulled
07:58:19< wherebugsgo_> lol if he flips scum
07:58:11< supersoft> OH LORD
07:58:08< supersoft> :-D
07:57:23< xtfftc> instead of lynching a townie
07:57:19< xtfftc> it's great play... why flip a coin between two scummy players
07:57:10< xtfftc> ikoopla, no way!
07:57:07< supersoft> but they didn't want him
07:57:00< supersoft> is scum
07:56:53< Kenpachi> im willing to bet
07:56:49< Kenpachi> jcarl
07:56:47< Kenpachi> hm
07:56:38< ikoopla> this new lynch 10 mins before deadline is insanity
07:56:20< wherebugsgo_> then xt becomes the best lynch basically
07:56:14< wherebugsgo_> if you take sevryn out
07:56:07< wherebugsgo_> so 3 of xt/sevryn/sinani/jcarl are probably scum
07:55:55< wherebugsgo_> well then maybe sevryn is town too
07:55:51< wherebugsgo_> so we figured okay
07:55:40< wherebugsgo_> super super pissed :p (haha)
07:55:33< wherebugsgo_> and me and super were pissed
07:55:27< wherebugsgo_> 30 minutes to end of lynch
07:55:23< wherebugsgo_> so we figured he's town like
07:55:19< wherebugsgo_> Forumite is adumbass
07:55:14< xtfftc> you condemned town
07:55:14< wherebugsgo_> long story short
07:55:12< wherebugsgo_> okay so
07:55:09< wherebugsgo_> LOL
07:55:06< Kenpachi> why did i do thatr
07:55:01< Kenpachi> what is this
07:54:55< supersoft> yoep
07:54:54< supersoft> :D
07:54:46< wherebugsgo_> the deciding vote
07:54:44< wherebugsgo_> ol kenpachi
07:54:29< xtfftc> if you get 5 on me, I'm dead
07:54:29< wherebugsgo_> now
07:54:28< wherebugsgo_> kenpachi just go
07:54:10< xtfftc> so he's -1
07:54:08< xtfftc> my vote is on him but it shouldn't be
07:54:05< wherebugsgo_> go go go
07:54:03< wherebugsgo_> VOTE XT
07:54:03< xtfftc> don't think he will wbg
07:53:54< Kenpachi> what?
07:53:48< wherebugsgo_> to vote xt
07:53:45< wherebugsgo_> 2 minutes
07:53:44< wherebugsgo_> you have
07:53:40< wherebugsgo_> lol
07:53:38< Kenpachi> lol
07:53:37< Kenpachi> i was taking a shower
07:53:34< Kenpachi> oh sorryu
07:53:31< wherebugsgo_> sevryn will die I think lol
07:52:16< supersoft> i know
07:52:06< wherebugsgo_> risk voted xt
07:51:24< supersoft> UKE
07:51:24< xtfftc> I'm asking you what it is that you'll find out by my flip
07:51:22< supersoft> RISKNIKE
07:51:15< wherebugsgo_> kenpachi wake the eff up
07:51:14 * risknuke slaps supersoft around a bit with a large fishbot
07:51:09< xtfftc> that's not what I'm asking
07:51:07 * wherebugsgo_ slaps Kenpachi around a bit with a large fishbot
07:51:04< supersoft> :-D
07:51:02< supersoft> but if we get a majority
07:50:57< supersoft> i really liked you this game
07:50:52< supersoft> h xtfftc
07:50:43< xtfftc> like for example?
07:50:41< supersoft> you're not town :D
07:50:36< wherebugsgo_> a lot actually
07:50:26< xtfftc> and what would lynching me give you when I flip town?
07:49:54< supersoft> :D
07:49:53< supersoft> sorry
07:49:52< supersoft> if the others agree on that i am in
07:49:48< supersoft> :D
07:49:42< supersoft> :-(
07:49:32< xtfftc> that's desperate really
07:49:28< xtfftc> lol, you're actually going for me
07:49:15< ikoopla> wasn't it bill murray who delayed deadlines 'cause he had to get drunk?
07:49:05< ikoopla> "deadline earlier 'cause i have to sleep"
07:49:00< ikoopla> gotta love kurumi's hosting
07:48:56< ikoopla> lol
07:48:03< xtfftc> the better
07:48:02< xtfftc> the sooner syllogism can shout at me for being dumb
07:47:56< xtfftc> go for it
07:47:45< wherebugsgo_> let's lynch xt
07:47:42< xtfftc> oO
07:47:35< wherebugsgo_> of xt/sinani/sevryn/jcarl
07:47:29< wherebugsgo_> it has to be 3
07:47:26< supersoft> xt is scum :D
07:47:26< wherebugsgo_> okay look
07:47:22< wherebugsgo_> so
07:47:18< wherebugsgo_> xt you could be scum
07:47:17< supersoft> not db
07:47:15< supersoft> not me not you
07:47:14< wherebugsgo_> ?
07:47:11< wherebugsgo_> then sinani sevryn jcarl
07:47:01< wherebugsgo_> it's not forumite
07:46:57< wherebugsgo_> we have 3 mafia
07:46:52< wherebugsgo_> no really
07:46:50< supersoft> lol
07:46:49< supersoft> or sev
07:46:40< wherebugsgo_> coinflip
07:46:38< wherebugsgo_> okay
07:46:28< supersoft> :-(
07:46:27< supersoft> ...
07:46:22< wherebugsgo_> he flips town and then what?
07:46:16< wherebugsgo_> jcarl is our only other option are you serious?
07:46:08< wherebugsgo_> I mean wtf
07:46:02< wherebugsgo_> risk to pull off sevryn
07:46:01< xtfftc> mafia are going for him
07:45:58< wherebugsgo_> I can get
07:45:53< xtfftc> told you
07:45:52< xtfftc> everyone is on sevryn
07:45:51< wherebugsgo_> 4 on sevryn
07:45:47< wherebugsgo_> oh fuck
07:45:43< wherebugsgo_> we all pull off forumite
07:45:43< xtfftc> and jcarl is on sevryn
07:45:39< wherebugsgo_> okay 3
07:45:38< xtfftc> just now
07:45:33< xtfftc> risk.nuke also voted for sevryn
07:45:33< wherebugsgo_> that's 2
07:45:31< wherebugsgo_> DB and nisani on sevryn
07:45:18< xtfftc> oh
07:45:16< xtfftc> no, we have three
07:45:13< supersoft> we could lynch jcarl
07:45:10< xtfftc> and jcarl is
07:45:08< supersoft> we have 5 votes
07:45:06< supersoft> if we stick together
07:45:04< xtfftc> dropbear and nisani also are on sevryn
07:44:38< wherebugsgo_> we don't have that many choices
07:44:36< xtfftc> and you have fourmite and erandorr on sevryn?
07:44:34< wherebugsgo_> seriously
07:44:23< xtfftc> it's just me, risk.nuke and sevryn on forumite
07:44:12< wherebugsgo_> then we're fucked
07:44:12< xtfftc> you don't need me to lynch sevryn, I think
07:44:10< wherebugsgo_> and a mafia is mute
07:44:09< supersoft> no it's not
07:44:06< wherebugsgo_> if you won't lynch muted people super
07:43:58< xtfftc> it's a choice between sevryn and forumite
07:43:56< wherebugsgo_> oh god
07:43:53< wherebugsgo_> we need 3 mafia
07:43:52< supersoft> i won't lynch muted people
07:43:51< xtfftc> sorry, we have to be realistic
07:43:50< wherebugsgo_> no he's not
07:43:48< wherebugsgo_> we need a decision now
07:43:45< supersoft> sinani is a horrible lynch
07:43:44< wherebugsgo_> we have 15 minutes
07:43:42< wherebugsgo_> like wtf
07:43:36< supersoft> NO
07:43:34< wherebugsgo_> jcarl?
07:43:32< supersoft> forumite and sev aren't mafia
07:43:31< wherebugsgo_> we lynch sinani?
07:43:26< wherebugsgo_> what now?
07:43:25< wherebugsgo_> okay I don't EITHER is mafia
07:43:20< supersoft> yes
07:43:15< xtfftc> because I don't think sevryn is mafia
07:43:09< wherebugsgo_> won't you drop forumite?
07:43:08< xtfftc> and the other five would simply be inactive
07:43:07< wherebugsgo_> but why the fuck
07:43:05< wherebugsgo_> that's true
07:42:55< xtfftc> we'd have ~15 mafia in this game
07:42:45< wherebugsgo_> and sevryn?
07:42:43< xtfftc> supersoft, if posting a bad analysis made you mafia
07:42:43< wherebugsgo_> xt are you scum with jcarl?
07:42:39< wherebugsgo_> wtf
07:42:24< supersoft> stop being so scummy
07:42:21< xtfftc> go for forumite
07:42:21< supersoft> xt
07:42:19< supersoft> :D
07:42:12< xtfftc> a bad read doesn't make you mafia
07:42:04< wherebugsgo_> fuck
07:42:02< xtfftc> all we get is a bad read
07:42:01< wherebugsgo_> bu
07:42:00< wherebugsgo_> no
07:41:59< wherebugsgo_> ugh
07:41:58< xtfftc> no we don't
07:41:49< supersoft> forumte confirmed
07:41:46< xtfftc> and whether he wanted to confirm himself to me
07:41:46< wherebugsgo_> I am not for a jcarl lynch today
07:41:46< supersoft> we lynch jcarl and we got erandorr and
07:41:42< wherebugsgo_> oh god
07:41:39< wherebugsgo_> lol
07:41:32< supersoft> :D
07:41:30< xtfftc> when I asked him about delaying
07:41:30< supersoft> i beg you
07:41:25< xtfftc> wherebugsgo_, he ignored me in the thread
07:41:20< supersoft> why not
07:41:13< xtfftc> no
07:41:10< supersoft> ???
07:41:09< supersoft> are you in for a jcarllynch
07:41:01< supersoft> guys
07:41:00< supersoft> okay
07:40:47< wherebugsgo_> he's mute
07:40:46< wherebugsgo_> it's impossible to know what forumite thinks
07:40:32< wherebugsgo_> ?
07:40:17< xtfftc> and forumite completely ignored me
07:39:59< wherebugsgo_> when I asked him about him
07:39:56< wherebugsgo_> Sevryn completely ignored sinani
07:39:50< wherebugsgo_> I posted it in the thread
07:39:44< wherebugsgo_> but he's not mafia
07:39:42< wherebugsgo_> he's stupid
07:39:38< xtfftc> and I don't see your link between sevryn and sinani
07:39:25< wherebugsgo_> he's not mafia
07:39:21< wherebugsgo_> dude
07:39:19< wherebugsgo_> rofl
07:39:18< wherebugsgo_> and flipping town?
07:39:14< xtfftc> I just think that he is more likely to be mafia than sevryn
07:39:14< wherebugsgo_> by dying?
07:39:04< xtfftc> I don't think that forumite would give us a lot (apart from confirming erandorr)
07:38:41< wherebugsgo_> sevryn gives us a link to sinani
07:38:35< wherebugsgo_> forumite won't give us anything either
07:38:24< wherebugsgo_> it needs to be sevryn
07:38:22< wherebugsgo_> we only have 20 minutes
07:38:21< xtfftc> what would lynching sevryn give us?
07:38:18< wherebugsgo_> not today anyway
07:38:06< wherebugsgo_> but we can't risk lynching him
07:38:02< wherebugsgo_> and he's scummy as fuck
07:37:55< wherebugsgo_> I know it's stupid
07:37:53< wherebugsgo_> look
07:37:44< wherebugsgo_> he is mafia
07:37:42< xtfftc> how do you know now?
07:37:41< wherebugsgo_> I don't think
07:37:39< xtfftc> ...
07:37:31< wherebugsgo_> he's not mafia
07:37:21< wherebugsgo_> get your vote off forumite
07:37:16< wherebugsgo_> dude
07:37:14< wherebugsgo_> well I don't want to lynch forumite
07:37:12< xtfftc> he's bad, not mafia
07:37:06< xtfftc> I don't want to lynch sevryn anymore
07:36:44< wherebugsgo_> at the very least
07:36:42< wherebugsgo_> leave him till tomorrow
07:36:24< wherebugsgo_> get your vote off forumite
07:36:21< wherebugsgo_> fuck
07:36:04< supersoft> hmm
07:35:29< xtfftc> I'm voting forumite
07:35:15< xtfftc> and a lot for sevryn
07:35:13< supersoft> this is so sad
07:35:11< xtfftc> and for most candidates we get 2-3 votes... five for forumite with some luck
07:35:09< supersoft> really
07:35:06< supersoft> aah damn
07:35:05< supersoft> yes
07:34:52< xtfftc> we have high level of inactivity
07:34:44< xtfftc> also, erandorr
07:34:31< xtfftc> and nisani, DB, jcarl, the three of us - on sevryn
07:34:13< xtfftc> erandorr and forumite tried to get jcarl
07:33:58< xtfftc> and risk.nuke, but he's been sheeping
07:33:39< xtfftc> those who votes on fourmite are the three of us and sevryn
07:33:17< supersoft> ?
07:33:16< supersoft> what do we have there
07:33:07< xtfftc> and I'm looking at the votes count
07:33:03< supersoft> lol
07:33:02< supersoft> i saw that attempt, too
07:32:53< xtfftc> I saw an attempt to save Forumite
07:32:49< supersoft> :-(
07:32:48< supersoft> and town
07:32:47< xtfftc> I don't want to... I didn't see any attempt to save him
07:32:45< supersoft> he might be just dumb
07:32:27< xtfftc> so you both want to lynch sevryn?
07:29:22< wherebugsgo_> after that he's been on my scumlist and has never been taken off
07:29:12< wherebugsgo_> and they were early day 1
07:29:10< wherebugsgo_> a total of two or three pro town things I can think of
07:29:00< wherebugsgo_> there are like
07:28:53< wherebugsgo_> from the minute he steps into the game
07:28:49< wherebugsgo_> incredibly scummy things
07:28:46< wherebugsgo_> he does incredibly dumb things
07:28:28< xtfftc> I'm going through forumite's filter again
07:27:11< supersoft> .......
07:27:07< supersoft> re
07:21:27< xtfftc> immediately after supersoft posted the log in which I mention I'm suspicious of him
07:21:09< xtfftc> "Xt is probably scum."
07:21:07< xtfftc> oh, nice
07:20:22< xtfftc> I'll use this opportunity to link to this http://i.imgur.com/Q7y4H.jpg
07:19:29< wherebugsgo_> he's an utter moron if he's actually town
07:19:19< xtfftc> well it's TL mafia
07:19:10< wherebugsgo_> I will rage so hard lol
07:19:06< wherebugsgo_> what I will do
07:19:01< wherebugsgo_> I have no idea
07:19:00< wherebugsgo_> and flips town
07:19:00< wherebugsgo_> if he gets lynched
07:18:57< xtfftc> then he ruined his town credibility with his first ##aim
07:18:55< wherebugsgo_> rofl
07:18:46< xtfftc> he started okay
07:18:43< xtfftc> it doesn't make sense
07:18:38< xtfftc> I think I'll vote Forumite after all
07:16:41< wherebugsgo_> that is exactly what they did
07:16:32< wherebugsgo_> yes
07:15:44< xtfftc> so mig/curu have supposedly PM-ed them and they have replied in the thread?
07:15:32< xtfftc> because they're mute
07:15:26< xtfftc> both of them have claimed in codes, I guess?
07:15:10< xtfftc> wait
07:15:09< xtfftc> oh
07:14:41< wherebugsgo_> to have to wonder whether he's fake claiming or not
07:14:37< xtfftc> he's the best possible case we can actually analyise
07:14:36< wherebugsgo_> and in fact it's really fucking annoying for us
07:14:27< wherebugsgo_> it CAN make sense from a scum perspective
07:14:18< xtfftc> so we have to decide whether he is town or not
07:14:09< xtfftc> it only makes sense if he is town
07:14:08< wherebugsgo_> iidfk
07:13:58< xtfftc> yes but if he is mafia, why was he so reluctant to ##aim at sevryn?
07:13:35< wherebugsgo_> but we can leave forumite till tomorrow -__
07:13:28< wherebugsgo_> I still think both forumite and sevryn are scum
07:13:22< xtfftc> gimem a minute to think
07:13:18< wherebugsgo_> lol
07:13:18< xtfftc> hm
07:13:06< xtfftc> out of him, sevryn and jcarl, he's the one imo
07:12:45< xtfftc> I don't agree about forumite
07:12:35< supersoft> xt, wbg, erandorr, forum and I
07:12:32< xtfftc> it should be in the thread and I'm re-reading his filter
07:12:21< supersoft> we don't lynch one of them
07:12:17< supersoft> we have 5 active people right now
07:12:13< wherebugsgo_> I have no idea what that would be lol
07:12:11< supersoft> let me say something
07:12:08< wherebugsgo_> which
07:12:07< supersoft> please
07:12:04< supersoft> okay
07:12:02< wherebugsgo_> but according to Curu he claimed something no scum would claim
07:11:56< wherebugsgo_> idk what Erandorr claimed
07:11:44< wherebugsgo_> that's all I know
07:11:43< xtfftc> that he actually shared so much info with him and only him?
07:11:41< wherebugsgo_> he claimed something
07:11:33< xtfftc> but mig was so confident in him being town?
07:11:25< xtfftc> and how come erandorr is a mute
07:11:23< wherebugsgo_> he's getting really annoying with the "jcarl case" though
07:11:11< xtfftc> and tell me it doesn't sound as if they've already agreed on it
07:11:00< xtfftc> re-read the bit when erandorr told forumite to ##aim
07:10:40< xtfftc> listen
07:10:39< xtfftc> I'm not going for it
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07:10:37< wherebugsgo_> leave it till tomorrow
07:10:34< wherebugsgo_> we can't lynch him today
07:10:32< xtfftc> I know
07:10:25< supersoft> we dont have enough time
07:10:22< xtfftc> I'm saying that everything I read from him sounds like mafia to me
07:10:21< wherebugsgo_> stop fucking around
07:10:19< wherebugsgo_> wtf
07:10:15< xtfftc> I'm not saying he is mafia... yet
07:10:03< xtfftc> listen
07:10:02< xtfftc> yes, I am
07:10:01< supersoft> erandorr is town.
07:09:57< supersoft> no
07:09:50< xtfftc> okay, I'm officially into tunnel-vision mode for erandorr
07:08:42< xtfftc> calm down
07:08:40< xtfftc> oi
07:08:32< supersoft> we keep calm now
07:08:28< supersoft> yes
07:08:24< wherebugsgo_> what the fuck
07:08:22< wherebugsgo_> good god fuck stupid townies
07:08:19< wherebugsgo_> I can't tell anymore
07:08:14< wherebugsgo_> omfg
07:07:41< supersoft> FAST
07:07:40< supersoft> we need to reconsider things
07:07:34< supersoft> who's online
07:07:31< supersoft> okay
07:07:20< supersoft> OMG
07:07:18< supersoft> AND THIS SEV IS PROBABLY JUST FUCKING STUPID
07:07:05< supersoft> sevryn has nothing
07:06:55< supersoft> but he has at least a reason for his retarded stubborness
07:06:42< supersoft> i dont trust forumite at all
07:06:23< supersoft> god i hate it...
07:06:10< supersoft> we should lynch sev...
07:06:04< supersoft> listen
07:06:03< supersoft> okay
07:03:36< wherebugsgo_> super
07:00:48< wherebugsgo_> they all need to die'
07:00:42< wherebugsgo_> sevryn/sinani/forumite have done nothing for town all game lol
07:00:31< wherebugsgo_> to how he is now
07:00:28< wherebugsgo_> as EA in hesmyrr's cosmic he acted similar
07:00:26< supersoft> and sevryn
07:00:23< supersoft> this guy
07:00:22< wherebugsgo_> as town he wasn't like this
07:00:17< supersoft> grrrrr
07:00:16< wherebugsgo_> I've played with forumite twice before
07:00:11< wherebugsgo_> lol
06:57:36< Kurumi> forumite is a regular tl mafia player
06:56:03< supersoft> he's red
06:56:01< supersoft> he's no vet
06:55:56< supersoft> dunno
06:55:41< xtfftc> or is he a smurf or something?
06:55:33< xtfftc> has anyone played with forumite before?
06:47:03< wherebugsgo_> he did it
06:47:02< wherebugsgo_> as soon as he got 4 votesd
06:46:59< wherebugsgo_> while under lynch pressure
06:46:56< wherebugsgo_> and he did it
06:46:46< supersoft> really
06:46:38< wherebugsgo_> god so not town at all
06:46:34< wherebugsgo_> looool
06:46:33< wherebugsgo_> WOULD YOU WAIT THAT LONG
06:46:30< wherebugsgo_> WHY
06:46:29< wherebugsgo_> 1.5 hours before lynch
06:46:24< wherebugsgo_> claims he lied
06:46:21< wherebugsgo_> he fucking
06:46:00< supersoft> forumite is scum for sure
06:45:46< supersoft> :D
06:45:46< supersoft> #2
06:45:36< xtfftc> I think Forumite and Erandorr are ^^
06:45:26< Kurumi> and I am lazy bastard
06:45:23< xtfftc> I don't think Sevryn is mafia anymore
06:45:21< Kurumi> because kitaman goes for that fancy strikethrough
06:45:16< xtfftc> anyway
06:45:07< Kurumi> derp
06:45:07< Kurumi> please tell me if there are any errors
06:45:01< Kurumi> oh yeah that
06:44:55< wherebugsgo_> vote list I think
06:44:49< supersoft> what was updated? ^_^
06:44:45< wherebugsgo_> and in fact in many games there are coded messages
06:44:38< wherebugsgo_> like I said you could talk in code
06:44:35< supersoft> i have no warning so far
06:44:30< supersoft> it doesnt matter
06:44:26< supersoft> ^_^
06:44:22< wherebugsgo_> it's because those rules don't apply here lol
06:44:11< wherebugsgo_> no it's not
06:43:40< xtfftc> yeah but that's because mods don't bother reading the subforum
06:43:09< Kurumi>
06:43:08< Kurumi> but I updated the OP
06:43:01< Kurumi> my had no colour though
06:42:56< Kurumi> huehueuhe
06:42:55< Kurumi> and Palmar did islandic one too
06:42:50< Kurumi> actually one
06:42:48< Kurumi> in my first game
06:42:46< Kurumi> I've done polish cycle posts
06:40:25< supersoft> yep
06:39:41< wherebugsgo_> no real difference
06:39:31< wherebugsgo_> you can talk in code if you want
06:39:27< wherebugsgo_> those rules don't apply
06:39:25< wherebugsgo_> in mafia
06:39:22< wherebugsgo_> eh
06:39:15< xtfftc> also, supersoft, sticking to English is a TL-wide rule
06:38:26< xtfftc> precisely
06:38:14< wherebugsgo_> in case sevryn doesn't die
06:38:11< wherebugsgo_> or well I guess three
06:38:05< wherebugsgo_> there's only two choices IMO lol
06:38:01< xtfftc> we have 50 minutes until the shot takes place anyway
06:37:59< wherebugsgo_> what
06:37:50< xtfftc> I'll switch to someone but I have to think now
06:37:30< wherebugsgo_> indeed
06:37:20< xtfftc> there'll be 30 minutes until the deadline before trhe shot takes place
06:37:20< wherebugsgo_> switch your vote to forumite
06:37:17< wherebugsgo_> xt
06:36:53< risknuke> yes
06:36:53< xtfftc> we wait and see
06:36:50< xtfftc> he ##aimed
06:36:47< xtfftc> guys
06:36:46< xtfftc> eh
06:36:12< supersoft> 1. mig is not almighty. 2. Mig was supsivious of forumite
06:35:52< wherebugsgo_> it's full of holes lol
06:35:47< wherebugsgo_> indeed
06:35:43< supersoft> erandors story is worthless
06:35:33< supersoft> i'd say that too
06:35:29< supersoft> yep
06:34:48< wherebugsgo_> I say we just lynch forumite
06:34:39< wherebugsgo_> we just need to lynch forumite/sinani now
06:34:32< wherebugsgo_> so
06:34:31< wherebugsgo_> he already shot sevryn
06:34:28< wherebugsgo_> no
06:34:25< supersoft> good
06:33:42< xtfftc> because he might, you know, snipe someone
06:33:31< xtfftc> in (the unlikely) case that Forumite actually is a RED sniper, we want him dead first
06:31:13 * wherebugsgo_ slaps supersoft around a bit with a large fishbot
06:29:40< supersoft> i don't know :D
06:29:29< wherebugsgo_> who are your other two scumreadS?
06:29:21< wherebugsgo_> idk
06:29:18< supersoft> sev might just be dumb
06:29:12< wherebugsgo_> when he fake shot me
06:29:10< supersoft> forumite is more likely scum
06:29:08< wherebugsgo_> he's been red to me since night 1
06:29:03< wherebugsgo_> I agree with you
06:29:01< wherebugsgo_> as long as it's between them
06:28:58< wherebugsgo_> lol exactly then it doesn't matter who dies today
06:28:58< supersoft> but forumite is definetely red
06:28:53< wherebugsgo_> you really think sevryn would just gloss over forumite?
06:28:49< supersoft> nothing
06:28:43< wherebugsgo_> what's stopping them both from being red
06:28:42< supersoft> there is no way a blue fakesniper
06:28:39< wherebugsgo_> dude
06:28:30< supersoft> on his case
06:28:25< supersoft> now we wasted our whole day
06:28:18< supersoft> LONG TIME BEFORE
06:28:14< supersoft> he could have claimed
06:28:10< supersoft> if he's no sniper and blue,
06:28:05< supersoft> if he were blue, he'd shot sev already
06:27:44< supersoft> he's not blu
06:27:36< supersoft> forumite is the better lynch
06:27:32< supersoft> no
06:27:28< wherebugsgo_> the other one will die tomorrow
06:27:25< wherebugsgo_> whichever one dies it doesn't matter
06:27:21< wherebugsgo_> it doesn't matter though
06:27:21< supersoft> i need you
06:27:19< wherebugsgo_> xt is on sevryn but his vote was on forumite earlier
06:27:18< supersoft> xtfftc
06:27:05< supersoft> <3
06:27:04< wherebugsgo_> his vote has been on Forumite all day
06:26:57< wherebugsgo_> he already voted him
06:26:25< supersoft> we vote forumite
06:26:19< supersoft> i need your help
06:26:17< supersoft> risk
06:25:16< risknuke> how do the votes currently look?
06:23:08< wherebugsgo_> I'll vote him now
06:22:56< wherebugsgo_> so they don't want to kill him
06:22:53< wherebugsgo_> believe any claim they're fed
06:22:50< wherebugsgo_> just some townies
06:22:48< wherebugsgo_> yes I agree with all of this
06:22:38< wherebugsgo_> lol
06:22:37< wherebugsgo_> in which case he's lying
06:22:37< supersoft> wtf
06:22:34< supersoft> WE DONT NEED A FAKE SNIPER
06:22:28< supersoft> 3. He's no sniper
06:22:25< wherebugsgo_> lol
06:22:22< supersoft> lol obviously
06:22:18< supersoft> or sevryn is red
06:22:14< supersoft> sevryn is blue and he's afraid that we lynch scum afterwards
06:22:02< wherebugsgo_> gets rid of him and it's like a double lynch
06:21:59< supersoft> 2. He's red sniper
06:21:57< wherebugsgo_> right
06:21:51< supersoft> if that is the case, there is no reason not to shoot sev
06:21:40< supersoft> 1. He's blue sniper
06:21:35< supersoft> there are 3 possibilities
06:21:18< supersoft> yes
06:20:22 * wherebugsgo_ slaps supersoft around a bit with a large fishbot
06:19:57< wherebugsgo_> you want to switch to forumite?
06:19:46< wherebugsgo_> yo
06:17:39< supersoft> 2 more people shouldn't be a problem
06:17:22< supersoft> wbg is in for sure when he comes back
06:17:07< supersoft> we only need about 5 people to lynch forumite
06:16:54< supersoft> you can switch back
06:16:51< supersoft> if you are around
06:16:47< supersoft> go for it
06:16:45< supersoft> no
06:16:25< xtfftc> but we need to get enough people first
06:16:18< xtfftc> so I'll consider it
06:16:08< xtfftc> and I'll be around
06:16:02< xtfftc> we've got two hours
06:15:38< supersoft> who's in for a turbolynch
06:15:22< supersoft> because he's afraid, we could reduce their KP to 1
06:15:09< supersoft> forumite wants to prevent a double townlynch
06:14:56< supersoft> no matter what sevryn is,
06:14:36< supersoft> forumite isn't working with us
06:14:20< supersoft> guys
06:14:19< supersoft> okay
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04:41:40< Nisani201> anyways i g2g
04:41:35< Nisani201> i should set up ssh so i can remotely slap all of uyou
04:41:27< Nisani201> i'm still at school
04:41:25< Nisani201> well actually overseer is back at home
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04:32:50< jcarlsoniv> (he can do that because he's the overseer)
04:31:09 * Nisani201 slaps MOTHERFUCKING EVERYONE around a bit with a large fishbot
04:29:36 * wherebugsgo_ slaps risknuke around a bit with a large fishbot
04:29:30 * wherebugsgo_ slaps Kenpachi around a bit with a large fishbot
04:19:43< wherebugsgo_> ty
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04:19:11< Nisani201> nisani.x10.mx/loonybin/loonybin.txt
04:18:55< wherebugsgo_> nisani what's the link to the irc log?
04:16:50< wherebugsgo_> fuck
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04:13:58< xtfftc> sinani is just derp for me
04:13:48< xtfftc> wherebugsgo, I don't actually agree with your link between sinani and sevryn
04:13:18< xtfftc> frankly, I can't wait for this game to be over so that syllogism would be able to start shouting at town for being stupid
04:13:17< wherebugsgo> for days people have been trying to fill it with jcarl
04:13:09< wherebugsgo> so that third mafia hole needs to be filled
04:13:03< wherebugsgo> people think Forumite is town for some crazy reason
04:12:58< wherebugsgo> no I think he's just on the wrong track
04:12:42< xtfftc> in my eyes he is either trying to save sevryn/forumite or we're (I am) just pathetic
04:12:28< wherebugsgo> I even explicitly told him my town reads
04:12:23< wherebugsgo> he would never had made that case
04:12:20< wherebugsgo> if he had read them
04:12:18< wherebugsgo> I sent him all my PMs yesterday
04:12:12< wherebugsgo> no he didn't
04:12:10< jcarlsoniv> which is why i took the time to respond
04:12:05< jcarlsoniv> he raised valid points
04:12:00< jcarlsoniv> well
04:12:00< wherebugsgo> and it's clear jcarl is not going to get any votes
04:11:54< wherebugsgo> because there are 3 much better lynches today
04:11:48< wherebugsgo> but I'm not going to bother arguing with him
04:11:40< wherebugsgo> what the argument is
04:11:37< wherebugsgo> yeah I really don't understand
04:09:04< Nisani201> i don't like him much either but there are better people
04:08:46< Nisani201> i think it's just erandorr actually
04:08:37< Nisani201> at least erandorr doesn;t
04:08:33< Nisani201> they don't like jcarl
04:06:36< wherebugsgo> what did I miss
04:06:34< wherebugsgo> ok whoops
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04:04:35< xtfftc> I don't see anyone coming up with a better lynch candidate than sevryn and gaining enough support for the lynch today without being backed by mafia
04:03:21< xtfftc> we should get on with it as fast as possible
04:02:17< xtfftc> (and forumite is actually vigilante and shoots sevryn)
04:02:01< xtfftc> even if we're wrong and both sevryn and forumite are town
04:01:49< xtfftc> well you should
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04:01:06< wherebugsgo> Let's see how Sevryn flips.
04:00:34< Nisani201> i think i will switch to sevyrn or forumite
04:00:31< wherebugsgo> At the time I preferred a sinani lynch but now a Sevryn one looks better. Plus more people agree now Sevryn is scummy
03:59:47< wherebugsgo> My case was made before super asked Forumite to shoot Sevryn
03:59:28< xtfftc> oO
03:59:17< wherebugsgo> Because I told him to
03:59:09< xtfftc> unless he doesn't think that sevryn and sinani are linked
03:59:00< xtfftc> which is why I'm asking nisani why he'd go for sinani direclty
03:58:50< xtfftc> precisely
03:58:39< wherebugsgo> Sevryn is the better choice. I thought about it and if he's linked to both Forumite and sinani we can kill sev first
03:58:12< wherebugsgo> Indeed I think
03:58:08< wherebugsgo> His thread presence isn't good but he's been doing work in PMs
03:57:51< xtfftc> but why didn't Nisani201 go for sevryn instead then?
03:57:42< wherebugsgo> Also jcarl is playing like Incog did
03:57:24< wherebugsgo> None of the other lurkers are linked to anyone
03:57:12< wherebugsgo> Sinani because he's linked to sevryn
03:43:26< xtfftc> it's a coin flip at best
03:43:13< xtfftc> just because he's been the least active of the lurkers?
03:43:06< xtfftc> okay, but why sinani out of all the lurkers? jcarl, risk.nuke, etc.
03:42:07< Nisani201> when a townie gets lynched
03:42:06< xtfftc> I turn out to be wrong
03:42:03< Nisani201> this game is really good for mafia to lurk in
03:42:01< xtfftc> but everytime I'm like "okay, this lurker fits perfectly as scum"
03:41:53< Nisani201> and lynchign lurkers under the wrong scenarios
03:41:39< xtfftc> I always tell myself that it's a really easy strategy if you're mafia
03:41:36< Nisani201> that's because people make the mistake of lynching lurkers d1
03:41:24< xtfftc> it's never done me any good
03:41:17< xtfftc> I don't want to lynch a lurker, Nisani201
03:39:48< Nisani201> HERPIN TO THE DERP BEAT
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03:34:52< wherebugsgo> Mmm
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03:33:10< xtfftc> yes but does that make him good enough for a vote?
03:32:04< Nisani201> risk nuke is a bit more active
03:31:50< Nisani201> sinani talks even less
03:31:42< xtfftc> <xtfftc> just like risk.nuke
03:31:39< xtfftc> <xtfftc> he is just a slow/inactive townie for me
03:31:36< xtfftc> <xtfftc> why sinani?
03:31:35< Nisani201> quickly
03:31:32< Nisani201> talk now
03:31:31< Nisani201> right now it's in a calm phase
03:31:25< Nisani201> it sort of goes through phases of shitting on me
03:31:18< Nisani201> i think it stopped
03:31:15< Nisani201> were you going to talk about mafia?
03:30:50< xtfftc> what school is this?!?
03:30:44< xtfftc> okay, that's more important
03:30:42< Nisani201> MESSAGE
03:30:41< Nisani201> EVEYR TINEM I SEND A
03:30:38< Nisani201> BEACH BALLS… BEACH BALLS EVERYWHERE
03:30:26< Nisani201> FDJSSLKADFJLAKSJFDLKASJDFJFLKSAJLFDK
03:30:22< Nisani201> OMFG
03:30:17< xtfftc> just like risk.nuke
03:30:15< Nisani201> *unfortunate
03:30:12< xtfftc> he is just a slow/inactive townie for me
03:30:12< Nisani201> very unfortune
03:30:10< Nisani201> it's unfortunate
03:30:08< Nisani201> i'm required to use a mac for school
03:30:04< xtfftc> why sinani?
03:30:00< xtfftc> good
03:29:29< jcarlsoniv> why would you ever use a mac
03:28:49< Nisani201> *yes
03:28:48< Nisani201> i have more time, hes
03:28:45< Nisani201> omfg macs are slow as shit
03:28:34< Nisani201> ia
03:28:34< Nisani201> a bit moer
03:28:15< xtfftc> Nisani201, do you have more time now?
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02:43:01< wherebugsgo> Alright sorry I'm on my phone
02:35:33< xtfftc> or forumite in case he refuses to shoot
02:35:16< xtfftc> and then he lynch sinani
02:35:07< xtfftc> so that forumite has to shoot him
02:34:59< xtfftc> let's get a majority on sevryn
02:34:56< xtfftc> wherebugsgo
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02:20:27< Nisani201> bye
02:18:39< Nisani201> what a monster
02:18:35< Nisani201> he left
02:18:33< Nisani201> exactly
02:16:52< wherebugsgo> He's not in here lol
02:04:25< Nisani201> re you really that offended by my presence?
02:04:15< Nisani201> a
02:04:14< Nisani201> what the fuck
02:04:12< Nisani201> supersoft
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02:04:05< Nisani201> I'M BACK!!!!!!!
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02:01:33< wherebugsgo> I'm actually really bothered that Forumite is still alive.
02:00:27< wherebugsgo> Sevryn sinani Forumite
01:42:08< xtfftc> three?
01:41:28< wherebugsgo> Yo all we need to consolidate the votes onto one of the three
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01:34:30< Nisani201> bye
01:27:22< Nisani201> *sinani
01:27:21< Nisani201> i'm nisani not sinain
01:23:43< xtfftc> okay, so it wasn't sinani
01:23:40< Nisani201> i don't think he is
01:23:36< Nisani201> i answered it
01:23:29< xtfftc> nothing, the question was about WBG being mafia
01:23:22< Nisani201> hurry up
01:23:18< Nisani201> what do you want
01:23:11< Nisani201> nisani hits the ping
01:23:06< Nisani201> stop pinging me
01:22:58< Nisani201> omg stfu
01:22:53< xtfftc> nisani, sinani
01:22:50< xtfftc> perhaps I PMed sinani?
01:22:24< Nisani201> you didn't ask me anything...
01:22:20< Nisani201> which one?
01:22:19<@syllogism> what was it
01:22:10< xtfftc> it wasn't a stupid question :/
01:20:23< Nisani201> but i wont answer your stupid questions
01:19:25< Nisani201> actually i can keep the laptop open, nvmd
01:19:14< Nisani201> ok I g2g
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01:17:18< Nisani201> wat
01:17:17< Nisani201> wa
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01:15:59< supersoft> so it's just one additional lynch
01:15:47< supersoft> and we would hang him either way
01:15:18< supersoft> right now everyone suspects sev
01:15:09< supersoft> he doesnt know that sev is town
01:15:01< supersoft> if both are town
01:14:56< supersoft> and he's scummy as hell
01:14:51< supersoft> well you awted me to
01:14:47<@syllogism> and if both town?
01:14:47< supersoft> sev and say
01:14:38< supersoft> he could happily shoot
01:14:31< supersoft> if only forumite was red
01:14:06< supersoft> and sev is red too
01:13:56< supersoft> i guess hes red sniper
01:13:47< supersoft> so why not type aim sev
01:13:41< xtfftc> assuming that forumite is mafia, that is
01:13:37< supersoft> if they're not both red
01:13:27< supersoft> where he won't shoot sev
01:13:27< supersoft> i cant think of any possibility
01:13:24< Nisani201> he's probably not a sniper
01:13:16< supersoft> but
01:13:13< xtfftc> ^^
01:13:13< xtfftc> (and how GM wanted Forumite to do the same during Day 2, which means that I'm innocent!!1)
01:13:11< supersoft> by attacking me
01:13:08< supersoft> instead he tries to distract
01:13:06< supersoft> he just doesnt do it
01:13:00< Nisani201> lol
01:12:56< supersoft> :D
01:12:56< supersoft> no
01:12:56< supersoft> but he doesnt want to do it
01:12:52< Nisani201> and he said no?
01:12:41< supersoft> i just wanted forumite to aim sevryn
01:12:37< supersoft> hey
01:12:29< Nisani201> also i'm in class
01:12:27< Nisani201> what are you guys talking about, i'm too lazy to read the logs
01:12:21< xtfftc> heya Nisani201
01:12:19< xtfftc> although GM specifically mentioned that actually writing ##aim risk.nuke in the thread could be used to shift the blame
01:12:08< supersoft> ah no
01:12:07< Nisani201> whuts up guise
01:11:43< xtfftc> "yo you should ##aim risk.nuke"
01:11:35< xtfftc> and then WBG derped again ^^
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01:11:16< supersoft> if they are red
01:11:16< supersoft> yes okay
01:11:01< supersoft> haha
01:10:40< xtfftc> although Jackal was dead already
01:10:02< xtfftc> and Sevryn replied with urging jackal to do the same
01:09:28< xtfftc> basically GM wanted Forumite to do the same thing you want him to do
01:09:13< xtfftc> that's not what I meant
01:08:41< supersoft> its day
01:08:38< supersoft> ?
01:07:26< xtfftc> just in case you didn't remember this one
01:07:08< xtfftc> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&currentpage=39#777
01:07:07< xtfftc> supersoft,
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00:51:47< supersoft> btw
00:51:46< supersoft> i got the log of that convo between me mig and curu
00:51:36< supersoft> therefor we told everyone that he's confirmed town
00:51:25< supersoft> if he was town
00:51:22< supersoft> we wanted to give the scumteam the oportunity to shoot him
00:51:04< supersoft> but we didnt know his color
00:50:59< supersoft> we knew that hes most likely sniper
00:50:48< supersoft> and we had a plan on forumite as well
00:50:40< supersoft> yes
00:50:36< xtfftc> it's in the thread as well
00:50:16< supersoft> mig told me in irc
00:50:04< xtfftc> during night 1, before being muted
00:49:59< risknuke> okey
00:49:58<@syllogism> oh ok, thought you were operating on the same dumb assumption that some other people were
00:49:54< xtfftc> mig said it
00:49:39< risknuke> how do you know that?
00:49:28< supersoft> and it wasnt sniper
00:49:25< supersoft> he claimed a role to mig
00:49:21< supersoft> :-o
00:49:13<@syllogism> but dont let that stop you!
00:49:11< supersoft> is the one where both of them are scum
00:49:04< supersoft> the only scenario where forumite won't shoot sev
00:49:03<@syllogism> he hasnt even role claimed
00:48:45< supersoft> "ah okay pff yes sevryn was scummy"
00:48:36< supersoft> and everyone would be like
00:48:17< supersoft> and claimed blue vig
00:48:14< supersoft> he'd shot him already
00:48:08< supersoft> if forumite was scum
00:48:04< supersoft> :D
00:48:03< supersoft> no
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00:47:49< xtfftc> unlikely but it's possible
00:47:33< xtfftc> sevryn might still be town though
00:47:30< xtfftc> hm
00:47:23< supersoft> he has to aim at sevryn
00:47:16< supersoft> he wont come out of this
00:47:12< supersoft> but there is no room for that
00:47:08< xtfftc> just voted for forumite
00:47:08< supersoft> by attacking my credibility
00:47:02< supersoft> but forumite tries to distract us
00:46:55< supersoft> he would shoot him asap
00:46:46< risknuke> you are scary
00:46:28< supersoft> if he were blue
00:46:23< supersoft> thats why he wont shoot him
00:46:15< supersoft> both of them are scum
00:46:11< supersoft> indeed
00:46:08< supersoft> :D
00:46:08< xtfftc> fun times
00:46:07< supersoft> he can aim and kill
00:46:06< xtfftc> lol
00:46:03< supersoft> if hes a sniper
00:45:58< supersoft> yes
00:45:57< supersoft> nothing happens if hes no sniper
00:45:54< xtfftc> he can safely ##aim?
00:45:44< xtfftc> if he's not really vigilante
00:45:39< xtfftc> ah, I think I got it
00:45:32< supersoft> was just an idea
00:45:29< supersoft> and said probably
00:45:19< supersoft> and said
00:45:17< supersoft> i corrected myself
00:45:13< supersoft> no
00:45:09< supersoft> i said probably
00:44:59< prplhz> http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/68_The Red Sniper
00:44:39< xtfftc> didn't you just say that there was no red sniper?
00:44:29< xtfftc> erm
00:42:57< supersoft> he won't shoot his teammate
00:42:52< supersoft> i got them
00:42:49< supersoft> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:42:42< supersoft> sev and forumite
00:42:39< prplhz> noone is, but you're all death millers
00:42:38< supersoft> yep
00:42:34< prplhz> i know who's scum btw
00:42:33< supersoft> guys
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00:42:28< xtfftc> (also, ninjaed)
00:42:24< xtfftc> I see dead people
00:42:21< xtfftc> but
00:42:20< xtfftc> don't tell anyone
00:42:10< risknuke> dead man walking
00:42:09< xtfftc> kk
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00:41:38< xtfftc> who are you? ^^
00:41:35< xtfftc> ikoopla
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23:57:50< risknuke> nvm actually
23:55:34< risknuke> you're that sure of sevryn
23:55:22< risknuke> :o
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23:39:15< supersoft> naaah
23:35:28< xtfftc> but once he does it, he's probably going to get lynched
23:34:15< supersoft> he can shoot as much as he wants
23:33:39< xtfftc> they might be saving his shot for a LYLO situation
23:33:30< xtfftc> I don't really get it
23:33:20< xtfftc> why are you so sure they don't have a sniper?
23:33:01< xtfftc> and the PM KP is during the day?
23:32:56< supersoft> they have no sniper
23:32:46< supersoft> yes
23:32:45< supersoft> the aimthing was at night
23:32:39< supersoft> wait
23:32:37< supersoft> ah no
23:32:23< supersoft> that they have a sniper
23:32:18< supersoft> and if wbg is town, there is no way
23:32:09< supersoft> he could only kill by aiming etc.
23:31:58< supersoft> their vig has no night kp
23:31:42< xtfftc> but then again there is no guarantee that they have a vigi either
23:31:34< xtfftc> we might want to go for the last one
23:31:20< xtfftc> and decide to kill rest of the mute townies tonight
23:31:04< xtfftc> who is a mute
23:30:51< xtfftc> I was thinking that if they have a vigilante
23:30:37< xtfftc> ah, nevermind, it's too complicated
23:29:47< xtfftc> mafia is still trying to eliminated all mutes though
23:29:28< xtfftc> hm
23:27:59< supersoft> yep
23:27:53< xtfftc> Last edit: 2011-10-04 21:17:21
23:27:53< xtfftc> oh, Not every role is guaranteed to be in game!
23:27:21< xtfftc> let me check
23:27:19< xtfftc> I think I read somewhere that all roles will be in the game
23:27:04< supersoft> i guess we have no blu sniper role
23:26:54< supersoft> there might be no vigilante among these muted players
23:26:38< xtfftc> unless there are other mutes, of course
23:26:26< xtfftc> so if the BLU vigilante decides to shoot at another mute tonight, he has at least a 50% chance of hitting the RED vigilante?
23:25:14< xtfftc> I'm working on a forumite analysis at the moment
23:25:07< xtfftc> I don't want my first contribution to the thread to be a pressure vote
23:24:37< supersoft> sinani
23:24:32< xtfftc> apart from forumite and erandorr?
23:24:30< supersoft> join now...
23:24:27< xtfftc> do we have any other revealed mutes
23:24:15< xtfftc> I'll give him some time to react to your request and might join in if necessary
23:23:32< xtfftc> okay, makes sense
23:23:27< supersoft> or not
23:23:25< supersoft> and judge whether it's reasonable
23:23:17< supersoft> if he shares, we can look at that stuff
23:23:05< supersoft> would be to easy
23:23:01< supersoft> because he can't share the QT with us
23:22:53< supersoft> if he's scum he wont be able to post everything
23:22:43< supersoft> he has no reason not to post his stuff if he's town
23:22:32< supersoft> he's probably scum
23:22:28< supersoft> if he doesnt want to be honest
23:22:21< supersoft> i want him to be honest with us
23:22:20< xtfftc> or actually about his lack of contacts
23:22:16< supersoft> like i said
23:22:04< xtfftc> okay, so how would knowing about his contacts help us?
23:22:03< supersoft> i posted something before
23:21:37< supersoft> but didnt share anything
23:21:33< supersoft> and with wbg
23:21:30< supersoft> he chattet with me in irc
23:21:20< supersoft> ah okay
23:17:14< xtfftc> I was talking about sevryn
23:16:17< supersoft> forumite is muted
23:16:14< supersoft> noo
23:15:15< xtfftc> I thought he was just inactive
23:15:10< xtfftc> oh, he hasn't sent any PMs whatsoever?
23:13:58< supersoft> because scum keeps shooting into them
23:13:52< supersoft> i dont want to lynch any muted players
23:13:18< xtfftc> so if sevryn doesn't have any contacts, what next?
23:13:09< xtfftc> anyway
23:12:51< supersoft> :D
23:12:50< supersoft> or something like this
23:12:45< xtfftc> this is my first PM game and I didn't even start from the very beginning
23:12:45< supersoft> that the PM mechanic is distracting
23:12:37< supersoft> i also just said
23:12:30< supersoft> and curu tunneled me like crazy
23:12:27< supersoft> it was my first pm game
23:12:26< xtfftc> oh
23:12:19< supersoft> i wasnt scum
23:12:17< supersoft> :D
23:12:05< xtfftc> I didn't actually follow the game but remember reading something about it
23:11:54< xtfftc> and they caught you this way because you weren't?
23:11:45< xtfftc> you were mafia and claimed to have been active in PMs
23:11:37< xtfftc> like you did in some old game?
23:11:33< xtfftc> hmm
23:11:32< supersoft> i just want him to be honest
23:11:18< supersoft> but he claims to have
23:11:12< supersoft> i dont think he has any
23:10:46< supersoft> and well
23:10:43< supersoft> but it shows that he's not scum
23:10:35< supersoft> :D
23:10:34< supersoft> doesn't
23:10:13< xtfftc> how would revealing his contacts help us?
23:08:27< supersoft> yep
23:05:11< xtfftc> okay, let's go back to the pressuring plan
23:01:13< xtfftc> I want to finish the bit from yesterday I pasted to you
23:01:04< xtfftc> okay, gimme a second
23:00:58< supersoft> obviously it's not pressure, it's force
23:00:47< supersoft> if he won't share
23:00:43< supersoft> i am going to lynch him
23:00:39< supersoft> no
23:00:35< xtfftc> don't announce it openly...
23:00:31< supersoft> because
23:00:29< xtfftc> if you're going to pressure someone
23:00:28< supersoft> i really don't want to lynch you
23:00:25< xtfftc> uh, dude
23:00:13< supersoft> i mean
23:00:00< supersoft> i want to start with sevryn
22:59:53< supersoft> to reveal his PM contacts
22:59:48< supersoft> who is scummy
22:59:36< supersoft> i propose that we start pressuring everyone
22:59:22< supersoft> everyone agrees on
22:59:16< supersoft> what we need is a plan
22:58:42< supersoft> ok
22:58:29< xtfftc> you can find the whole conversation in the #loonybin logs from last night
22:58:27< xtfftc> there
22:57:10< supersoft> wait okay
22:56:24< supersoft> mh
22:56:21< xtfftc> let me copy/paste
22:56:17< xtfftc> I don't remember if I spoke to you about this last night
22:56:12< xtfftc> known for sure - not really. considered the possibility - definitely
22:56:03< supersoft> because it was so obvious
22:55:50< supersoft> he should have known that curu was town, too
22:55:39< supersoft> if GM was town
22:55:31< supersoft> anyway
22:55:27< supersoft> are pretty useless
22:55:20< supersoft> these guys
22:55:16< supersoft> idk
22:55:11< xtfftc> or is he just afk all the time?
22:55:04< supersoft> is a pretty good player.
22:55:03< xtfftc> has risknuke claimed being a mute?
22:54:58< xtfftc> heya
22:54:43< supersoft> GM
22:54:40< supersoft> the thing is
22:54:36< supersoft> well
22:54:35< supersoft> here i am
22:54:33< supersoft> so
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20:28:26< xtfftc> asdf
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14:05:26< Nisani201> because i wont answer
14:05:23< Nisani201> ok, no one message me
14:05:17< Nisani201> ...
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11:32:27< wherebugsgo___> lawl
11:31:12< Nisani201> ?
11:31:03< jcarlsoniv> loser
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11:30:47< Overseer> ok fine
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11:28:35< wherebugsgo___> it won't take long
11:27:29< Overseer> hold on
11:27:26< Overseer> i'd love to talk... but i'm smoked with homework
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11:20:53< wherebugsgo___> nisani where da eff are you
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10:57:52< wherebugsgo___> nisani let's talk
10:57:47< wherebugsgo___> tomorrow
10:56:51-!- Irssi: #loonybin: Total of 8 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 7 normal]
10:56:50< Overseer> is the lynch today or tomorrow?
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10:48:07< Overseer> argghhhhh'
10:48:03< Overseer> and i guess the keybioard buttons got pressed
10:47:49< Overseer> my housekeeper moves all of this shit around
10:47:14< wherebugsgo__> what the
10:46:45< Overseer> omgfg
10:46:26< Overseer> 08:18 <9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~3~3~3~3~ ~
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10:09:58< wherebugsgo> also wtf there are no bears in Australia what's he doing there
10:09:47< wherebugsgo> he should be waking up
10:09:41< wherebugsgo> it's freakin spring in Australia damn it
10:09:17< jcarlsoniv_> hibernating?
10:05:06< wherebugsgo> where the fuck is dropbear
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09:45:29< kitaman27> I can't help myself sometimes
09:45:09< jcarlsoniv_> don't be jealous kita
09:44:38< kitaman27> back off, he's mine
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09:38:28< wherebugsgo> ooh that's nice
09:38:22 * jcarlsoniv_ slaps wherebugsgo around a bit with a large fishbot
09:38:22< wherebugsgo> it involved me slapping everyone, including myself
09:38:19< jcarlsoniv_> well that's not very nice
09:38:13< wherebugsgo> jcarl you missed the slap fest
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09:30:09< wherebugsgo> sooo hot
09:30:08< sevryn> sounds like masturbation
09:30:08< alanismorisette> .......
09:30:00< wherebugsgo> fuckin sexy
09:29:54< Kenpachi> to slap yourself
09:29:51< Kenpachi> how did it feel
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09:29:24< wherebugsgo> oh fuck it ima slap you all
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09:01:12< sevryn> im a busy person
09:01:10< sevryn> hey scum raise your hand please
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08:09:28< xtfftc> cause now I'm going to sleep
08:09:20< xtfftc> will post on him tomorrow
08:08:58< xtfftc> I'm not ready to lynch anyone yet
08:04:45< wherebugsgo> I'll be here on IRC but I'm going out to get lunch. Be back 45ish
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08:01:51< wherebugsgo> xt what would you say to a Forumite lynch today
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07:59:08< wherebugsgo> why Curu would be a good lynch
07:59:04< wherebugsgo> we went over numerous reasons
07:58:58< wherebugsgo> I think everything that could have affected GM was covered in our IRC log lol
07:58:48< wherebugsgo> dude
07:58:47< wherebugsgo> no
07:56:47< xtfftc> I don't know what it was but there has got to be something
07:56:21< xtfftc> it might be something less obvious from the thread or this channel
07:54:28< wherebugsgo> I mean, I don't really know who else you could be looking for
07:53:44< wherebugsgo> but we don't have those
07:53:36< wherebugsgo> would be between him and incog
07:53:32< wherebugsgo> the only other thing
07:53:20< wherebugsgo> he posted his logs with Curu
07:53:16< wherebugsgo> no one else really had much contact with GM as far as I know
07:52:14< xtfftc> but it's not just you
07:52:00< xtfftc> as I said - I'm suspecting everyone
07:50:25< wherebugsgo> unless you're suggesting it was me
07:50:19< wherebugsgo> I don't see anyone who could've tricked GM into anything
07:50:05< wherebugsgo> -_-
07:49:46< xtfftc> like I'm in Memento
07:49:33< xtfftc> but yeah, it's kind of funny how I have to figure out my own motives ^^
07:49:13< xtfftc> so we'll see
07:49:02< xtfftc> I'm not sure if it's legal... I read about ths Incognito thing from a few months ago
07:48:46< xtfftc> I have PMed Kurumi to ask whether it's okay to ask GM a few questions
07:48:15< xtfftc> perhaps someone managed to trick him into believing it
07:47:52< xtfftc> we have a very good player who was very wrong about something
07:47:31< wherebugsgo> you know your own alignment, why are you wondering something about GM like that?
07:47:12< wherebugsgo> you replaced him lol
07:47:08< wherebugsgo> why are you considering what GM would have thought
07:47:02< wherebugsgo> I don't understand
07:41:45< xtfftc> I guess I'll ask Kurumi if it's okay for him to share some thoughts with me
07:41:35< xtfftc> which someone like GM should consider
07:41:19< xtfftc> the point is that there were alternatives to curu being mafia
07:41:00< xtfftc> but that's not the point
07:40:58< xtfftc> I don't think there's any way to figure out what their original plan was
07:40:11< xtfftc> but curu was too quick to catch the slip
07:40:09< wherebugsgo> I would agree
07:40:07< xtfftc> perhaps they were planning to
07:39:36< xtfftc> I think it's feaseable to consider that they didn't bus him aggressively
07:38:51< wherebugsgo> at LEAST two mafia exist who didn't give a shit about Palmar dying
07:38:38< wherebugsgo> so who bussed him?
07:38:31< wherebugsgo> myself and incog are town and we don't know what Forumite it
07:38:22< wherebugsgo> myself, incog, and Forumite
07:38:17< wherebugsgo> there were only 3 players who defended Palmar
07:38:17< xtfftc> exactly
07:38:09< wherebugsgo> which in retrospect it probably was
07:38:01< wherebugsgo> it was indeed mostly about the bus
07:37:56< wherebugsgo> did you read the points at the end?
07:37:46< xtfftc> was mostly about bussing palmar
07:37:39< xtfftc> the case GM presented in the thread
07:37:22< wherebugsgo> wait why? We were working on the signs that Curu was manipulating Mig
07:36:58< xtfftc> but even without this the case wasn't as clear-cut as GM saw it
07:36:47< xtfftc> sure, curu confirmed himself to mig
07:36:38< xtfftc> yeah but
07:35:47< wherebugsgo> but at the same time Curu was the only alternative and he was town too
07:35:38< wherebugsgo> everyone thought Incog, who was town, was scum, and he didn't help anyone with that
07:35:27< wherebugsgo> and at this point it's obvious why day 2 was useless
07:35:18< wherebugsgo> none of us would have gone so far to push a case on Curu
07:35:11< wherebugsgo> if we had known any of that stuff
07:35:06< wherebugsgo> to have the logs from Mig and Palmar and Curu and Palmar
07:34:59< wherebugsgo> was because none of us were "towny" enough to Mig or Curu
07:34:52< wherebugsgo> the gist of why the curu case was bad
07:34:26< xtfftc> but palmar is smart enough to use the opportunity
07:34:22< wherebugsgo> oh don't worry me and incog did too lol
07:34:20< xtfftc> the exchanges between curu and palmar were suspicious
07:34:09< xtfftc> yeah, he really screwed up with reading curu
07:32:04< wherebugsgo> oh and NC's posts in the thread are important too
07:29:24< wherebugsgo> tbh that was all this IRC had lol. everything else is private or in the thread
07:28:59< wherebugsgo> so this IRC log is irrelevant for that
07:28:55< wherebugsgo> and now they're both dead
07:28:52< wherebugsgo> was the curu/palmar business
07:28:48< wherebugsgo> one thing that was important
07:28:41< wherebugsgo> bc like
07:28:38< wherebugsgo> are already done with now
07:28:36< xtfftc> reading IRC logs is such a nightmare
07:28:31< xtfftc> I was hoping you'd say that
07:28:30< wherebugsgo> the only things that matter
07:28:20< wherebugsgo> aren't really that useful either
07:28:15< wherebugsgo> oh the logs in this channel
07:28:11< xtfftc> http://nisani.x10.mx/loonybin/loonybin.txt
07:28:07< xtfftc> I've started on the logs from this channel
07:27:59< wherebugsgo> okay
07:27:51< xtfftc> I've read the logs GM sent me
07:27:50< wherebugsgo> thread actually doesn't contain a huge amount of info. You should go through incog, curu, mig, forumite, erandor's posts
07:27:18< wherebugsgo> xt how far are you into the logs and the thread?
07:26:49< wherebugsgo> lol
07:26:13< xtfftc> sleep is such a lame excuse
07:26:05< xtfftc> okay, I've bored supersoft enough for him to quit irc ^^
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07:12:51< wherebugsgo> which is in 25 hours
07:12:45< wherebugsgo> I'm not asking for them now, I'm just saying you need to do it before lynch today
07:12:25< wherebugsgo> I have no obligation to give you my reads, you just have to take my word that other townies have them
07:12:09< wherebugsgo> and conversely I am not a player who was scummy to the town leaders
07:11:49< wherebugsgo> I did not replace someone who was thought by 90% of the town to be scum
07:11:33< wherebugsgo> I don't
07:11:32< wherebugsgo> and the entire thread to read
07:11:30< wherebugsgo> you have all those logs
07:11:26< wherebugsgo> we are not in equal positions
07:11:19< wherebugsgo> I already answered that question
07:09:25< xtfftc> so put yourself in my shoes, would you?
07:09:13< xtfftc> until I consider you to be a probable townie, I'll be reluctant to give you my reads
07:08:52< xtfftc> and what you said for me applies for you as well
07:08:41< xtfftc> for me, you are not a confirmed townie
07:07:59< xtfftc> and so I'm starting with considering everyone as being suspicious
07:07:19< xtfftc> but first I have to figure some things out for myself
07:06:59< xtfftc> dude, I know I have to contribute
07:02:24< wherebugsgo> ex. don't do what like half the players in the game have done
07:01:58< wherebugsgo> you just have to show to me that you're town and willing to contribute
07:01:50< wherebugsgo> it's not like you even have to find mafia
07:01:16< wherebugsgo> you have all of today and most of the night phase to form your own reads
07:01:06< wherebugsgo> anyway, I'm giving you plenty of time
07:00:29< wherebugsgo> and that's only useful when you have a case you're sure on.
07:00:23< wherebugsgo> well, not until I actually wanted to trap the other scum, that is
06:59:51< wherebugsgo> no
06:59:50< wherebugsgo> would I post them in the thread or in this IRC channel?
06:59:40< wherebugsgo> yes
06:59:39< wherebugsgo> would I get reads on players and give them to probable townies?
06:59:16< xtfftc> put yourself in my shoes, would you?
06:58:28< wherebugsgo> I haven't posted them in the thread because the thread is public and mafia can see it
06:58:19< wherebugsgo> I've given my reads to players I think are town
06:58:11< wherebugsgo> no, I don't want to give YOU my reads
06:57:55< xtfftc> you don't want to post your reads because I just entered the game
06:57:50< xtfftc> okay, so how is this different from what I wrote?
06:55:19< wherebugsgo> if I think you could be either alignment there's no reason for me to give you my reads at all
06:54:59< wherebugsgo> me giving you my reads doesn't establish your towniness
06:54:48< wherebugsgo> not on me
06:54:46< wherebugsgo> as a townie
06:54:45< wherebugsgo> to establish yourself
06:54:42< wherebugsgo> the burden is on you
06:54:39< xtfftc> what it is that you didn't understand?
06:54:38< wherebugsgo> you just replaced into the game
06:54:23< wherebugsgo> I can't give you reads
06:54:23< xtfftc> (that was for the wtf? ^^)
06:54:20< wherebugsgo> you're not making any sense dude
06:54:16< wherebugsgo> ???
06:54:07< xtfftc> my thoughts precisely
06:54:07< wherebugsgo> I'm not using any excuses
06:54:04< wherebugsgo> what are you even trying to say?
06:53:52< wherebugsgo> wtf?
06:53:50< xtfftc> the*
06:53:46< xtfftc> and wants to use to replacement as an excuse to lurk
06:53:31< xtfftc> however, when I see you I see someone who has been in the game from the very start
06:53:21< wherebugsgo> I asked you to contribute your reads
06:53:15< wherebugsgo> did I?
06:53:13< wherebugsgo> I didn't ask that
06:53:11< wherebugsgo> you have more than 24 hours to establish yourself as town
06:53:11< xtfftc> you'd expect me to contribute
06:53:07< xtfftc> you wouldn't expect me to join in and get all mafia
06:53:05< wherebugsgo> how is that not a reasonable expectation?
06:52:56< xtfftc> if you're town, you'd have reasonable expectations
06:52:32< wherebugsgo> was #1 scum
06:52:30< wherebugsgo> who literally the entire town thought yesterday
06:52:19< wherebugsgo> because you just replaced someone
06:52:17< xtfftc> when the current ratio is 3:1
06:52:09< xtfftc> and I think it'd be nice if you tell me why someone should be at least 75% townie in your eyes to lynch him
06:52:03< wherebugsgo> right so imagine it from my PoV right
06:51:25< wherebugsgo> so I know they're your OWN thoughts
06:51:21< wherebugsgo> without me giving you thoughts first
06:51:17< wherebugsgo> if you post your thoughts
06:51:16< xtfftc> if I'm faking them, it'd be easier to challenge me on that
06:51:15< wherebugsgo> I think it's better
06:51:08< wherebugsgo> right.
06:51:02< xtfftc> sure but either way I would have to post thoughts on someone
06:50:53< wherebugsgo> it's really good scum play
06:50:46< wherebugsgo> then he fabricates a case around that person to get a mislynch
06:50:34< wherebugsgo> he's basically just probing for whoever me and Incog thought was most likely to be scum
06:50:25< wherebugsgo> and if any of them are town and NC is scum
06:50:19< wherebugsgo> he pushed jcarl and forumite and curu in our log
06:50:11< wherebugsgo> that's why people thought NC was scummy
06:50:07< wherebugsgo> heck
06:50:03< wherebugsgo> you can always fake reasons, no?
06:49:49< wherebugsgo> I'd rather have your opinions first
06:49:49< xtfftc> ...and bandwagonning helps me by?
06:49:36< wherebugsgo> you can easily just bandwagon that person
06:49:31< wherebugsgo> and I tell you who I would push instead of you
06:49:23< wherebugsgo> xt it's a scummy question because if you're scum
06:49:19< xtfftc> doesn't matter if it's today or tomorrow
06:49:18< supers> :D
06:49:18< supers> turbolynch xtfftc
06:49:13< supers> lol okay
06:49:10< supers> D:
06:49:06< xtfftc> anyway
06:49:05< supers> fuck
06:49:05< xtfftc> it's 9:3
06:49:03< supers> 9:§
06:49:03< wherebugsgo> yeah.
06:48:58< supers> OH WHAT
06:48:56< wherebugsgo> not 12:3 lol
06:48:54< supers> we did not lose any blues except one medic
06:48:53< wherebugsgo> it's 9:3 dude
06:48:43< supers> its 12:3
06:48:42< wherebugsgo> I'm not going to push your lynch today
06:48:40< supers> we need to start from the beginning
06:48:39< wherebugsgo> I just said
06:48:36< wherebugsgo> yes
06:48:34< supers> wbg calm down. :D
06:48:29< xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> I will push your lynch tomorrow
06:48:28< xtfftc> wherebugsgo> but if you're not 3/4 town to me by the end of today
06:48:15< wherebugsgo> I just told you I'm not going to lynch you today
06:48:14< xtfftc> which is saying that you have no mafia reads at all
06:48:10< wherebugsgo> no
06:48:02< xtfftc> you['re basically saying that you'll go for the new player even if it's a 50:50 chance he's mafia
06:48:02< wherebugsgo> well, yeah it is...lol. think about the scum side to it
06:47:46< xtfftc> no, it's not scummy
06:47:28< wherebugsgo> I'll go for whoever I think is most likely to be scum
06:47:22< wherebugsgo> that's an incredibly scummy question
06:47:16< wherebugsgo> wtf
06:46:28< xtfftc> who would you go for if I convince you that I'm town?
06:45:18< wherebugsgo> lol
06:45:18< wherebugsgo> well assuming I'm alive
06:45:13< wherebugsgo> I will push your lynch tomorrow
06:45:08< wherebugsgo> but if you're not 3/4 town to me by the end of today
06:44:57< wherebugsgo> would be extremely stupid today
06:44:54< wherebugsgo> I'm pretty sure lynching you
06:44:49< wherebugsgo> you have around 24 hours though
06:44:44< wherebugsgo> right
06:44:16< xtfftc> so I'm basically a lurker
06:44:09< xtfftc> I've just joined the game and haven't contributed anything
06:43:55< xtfftc> you have no reason to
06:43:12< wherebugsgo> why should we think you're town?
06:43:08< wherebugsgo> yo xt
06:42:12< supers> of PMs
06:42:04< supers> i think we had three circles.
06:41:46< supers> mhm
06:41:39< xtfftc> yes but I've got to start from somewhere
06:41:39< supers> we discussed everything in here
06:41:32< supers> :D
06:41:25< supers> the thread is irrelevant
06:41:21< xtfftc> but at the moment I'm going through it because it's a mess
06:41:16< xtfftc> so I've read pretty much everythjing
06:41:11< xtfftc> I was kind of following the thread before joining the game
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06:39:01< supers> i posted in the thrad?
06:38:56< supers> you read the log between me and mig
06:38:05< wherebugsgo> but w/e that's for another time lol
06:38:01< wherebugsgo> I suppose we can
06:38:00< wherebugsgo> well
06:37:57< wherebugsgo> which is why we can't really be sure on Forumite
06:37:53< supers> fuck
06:37:49< wherebugsgo> is destroyed
06:37:47< wherebugsgo> but the Curu/Forumite link
06:37:47< supers> yes it is
06:37:44< wherebugsgo> well not all of it persay
06:37:36< wherebugsgo> unfortunately all of that shit is wrong now LOL
06:37:30< supers> Original Message From Incognito: Hmm all yesterday I was leaning town. He is just way overzealous. I'll keep an eye on him but for right now I'm looking at some of the more lurkerish people. Curu has mysteriously disappeared over the last day, quite a sharp contrast from "parlmar 100% red". What do you think of him?
06:37:14< supers> Original Message From Incognito: Whoops I thought I sent you something but apparently I didn't. Basically Curu and Forumite are mafia, I'm pretty sure. WBG and NotChezinu are town, I'm in contact with them. An analysis will go up shortly but I need you to shoot Curu tonight. Mig is being manipulated by Curu and refuses to believe that Curu is mafia. Mig doesn't believe that Forumite is mafia, and I think it will be disasterous if this manipul
06:36:58< supers> Think of it this way. Two mafia try to use PM slips to "catch" each other in the thread. This is illegal, so you tell them to stop. one of the mafia keeps pushing it, and says that its not fair to let him live because otherwise he's confirmed town. If you are the host, you are in a tough situation. If you modkill both of them for breaking the rules, then you've pretty much ruined your game, as half the mafia is dead. If you don't modkill anyone
06:36:15< supers> w8 a sec
06:35:14< xtfftc> which post did incognite give you exactly?
06:35:00< wherebugsgo> lol
06:34:58< wherebugsgo> dude the genesis is in the logs
06:34:55< supers> where he was with them
06:34:49< supers> wbg gave me the logs
06:34:46< supers> not the genesis of it
06:34:42< supers> incognito gave me the post
06:34:36< supers> no
06:34:23< xtfftc> didn't you just say that incognito gave them to you anyway? ^^
06:34:16< wherebugsgo> lol wtf
06:34:05< supers> i'll read them for you
06:33:55< supers> :D
06:33:49< supers> you can just give that convos to me
06:33:41< supers> xtfftc
06:33:40< supers> hey
06:33:32< supers> :D:D:D
06:33:29< supers> lol it was a lot of work for me to read through wbgs shit :D
06:33:16< xtfftc> brb five minutes, I guess
06:33:10< xtfftc> I was hoping to avoid reading them....
06:32:54< wherebugsgo> can answer that
06:32:52< wherebugsgo> xt the logs
06:32:52< supers> okay so you don't know... :-/
06:32:40< supers> incognito gave me this post before they posted it i think
06:32:15< supers> and posted it in the thread later
06:32:09< supers> they talked about it earier
06:32:06< xtfftc> I don't have any info on who came up with it first apart from what I read in the thread
06:32:02< supers> nonono
06:31:26< xtfftc> GM posted his case on curu in the thread
06:31:21< supers> who do you think came up with the curuthing first?
06:31:17< xtfftc> yes they were
06:31:13< wherebugsgo> are huge
06:31:11< wherebugsgo> rofl our logs
06:31:02< supers> okay
06:30:55< xtfftc> not absolutely everything, just the ones he thought were good enough
06:30:54< supers> äääh scum
06:30:50< supers> i wanna know why he got the impression that curu is town
06:30:30< supers> i got his logs with wbg, too
06:30:12< supers> every log?
06:30:00< xtfftc> absolutely nothing, just the logs/PMs
06:29:44< supers> about his thoughts etc
06:29:39< supers> okay i dont know how many info you got from GM
06:28:53< xtfftc> it might be better to do it here
06:28:52< supers> :D
06:28:51< supers> ofc not
06:28:50< xtfftc> and considering that I'm just joining the game
06:28:50< supers> ahahaha
06:28:43< xtfftc> I've got nothing to hide
06:28:34< supers> :D
06:28:34< supers> ?
06:28:31< supers> you want a private conversation
06:28:22< supers> good
06:28:11< wherebugsgo> rofl
06:28:00< xtfftc> yep, you'd better talk to me first because I'm going to bed soon
06:27:09< supers> we talk later kek? i need to talk to xtfftc
06:26:38< wherebugsgo> I'm handling 4 convos at once lol
06:26:35< wherebugsgo> super PM me in here
06:26:20< supers> ;-)
06:25:43< xtfftc> scum
06:25:42< supers> nice
06:25:38< supers> oh hi

[10:39] <supers> hey
[10:39] <Mig__> yo
[10:39] <supers> well
[10:39] <supers> you got a minute?
[10:39] <Mig__> yep
[10:40] <supers> i want to talk about the icognito case
[10:40] <Mig__> great
[10:40] <Mig__> basically today I only want to lynch incog or NC
[10:40] <Mig__> they are way way too good for this
[10:40] <supers> mhm
[10:41] <Mig__> notice how in their case they didnt even mention that palmar was the pyro?
[10:41] <Mig__> they are leaving out facts to try and make their case work against curu
[10:41] <Mig__> I mean in what universe does mafia kill their own kp?
[10:41] <Mig__> I know both of them know this
[10:41] <Mig__> the thing about incog is
[10:42] <Mig__> so him/nc/wbg all wrote the case right thats why they post their stupid 3 headed dragon picture
[10:42] <Mig__> buttt NC and wbg are the only 2 who post the cases
[10:42] <Mig__> incog just posts I dont think anything else must be said
[10:42] <Mig__> so if they got curu lynched and he flips town who takes the heat?
[10:42] <Mig__> those 2 not incog
[10:42] <Mig__> and I have incog on aim he has been online all night
[10:42] <Mig__> yet hasnt commented a single time once I came in and crushed their stupid case?
[10:43] <Mig__> I know he is reading the thread
[10:43] <supers> he's the one who had this idea
[10:43] <Mig__> You mentioned how prplz death makes you think incog might be town right
[10:43] <supers> of curu being scum
[10:44] <supers> yes
[10:44] <supers> because he wanted me to shoot prplhz
[10:44] <Mig__> but did you notice NC used it as defense for incog isnt scum when he responded to me?
[10:44] <Mig__> I believe they planned out prplzs death either themselves for a vig
[10:44] <Mig__> to use as a defense
[10:44] <Mig__> which is why he posted the long analysis against him right before day
[10:44] <supers> maybe
[10:44] <supers> lol
[10:45] <Mig__> oh it was his idea that curu was scum?
[10:45] <supers> i think so
[10:45] <Mig__> I didnt even know that I just know the 3 of them were in on it
[10:45] <Mig__> so he is the one who started everything lol
[10:45] <Mig__> and he doesnt even mention that palmar was the pyro
[10:45] <Mig__> brilliant
[10:45] <supers> "Kenpachi is probably town. You need to shoot Curu."
[10:45] <Mig__> he told you that?
[10:45] <supers> 10/2/11 08:40
[10:45] <supers> yes
[10:45] <Mig__> wowwww
[10:46] <supers> Hmm all yesterday I was leaning town. He is just way overzealous. I'll keep an eye on him but for right now I'm looking at some of the more lurkerish people. Curu has mysteriously disappeared over the last day, quite a sharp contrast from "parlmar 100% red". What do you think of him?
[10:46] <supers> and
[10:46] <supers> incognito
[10:46] <supers> already posted something about curu way before this 3headed dragon thing
[10:47] <Mig__> so almost certainly he is one that orchestrated all of this
[10:47] <Mig__> that is just lol
[10:47] <supers> probably yes
[10:48] <Mig__> there is some chance wbg/nc could be town and incog just manipulated them he is very good
[10:48] <supers> its that post October 02 2011 04:16
[10:49] <Mig__> so I wouldnt be surprised if he is misleading them
[10:49] <supers> i think that wbg is easy to manipulate
[10:49] <Mig__> for sure he is
[10:49] <Mig__> I def agree with that lol
[10:49] <supers> ^_^
[10:50] <supers> he wanted to talk to me
[10:50] <supers> i'll act as if i still think that icognito is town
[10:50] <Mig__> I talked to wbg a lot today he is really really stubborn
[10:50] <supers> and try to get as much informations out of him as possible
[10:50] <Mig__> but I honestly think he is just dumb town
[10:50] <supers> yes
[10:51] <Mig__> k that sounds like a good idea
[10:51] <supers> okay so
[10:51] <Mig__> lynch is in 13 hours so not a ton of time but anything you can get is helpful
[10:51] <supers> incognito told me to shoot prplhz
[10:51] <supers> after that he posted that analysis
[10:51] <Mig__> you said no to shooting prpl when he asked you right?
[10:51] <supers> yes
[10:52] <supers> i said i wont shoot him
[10:52] <Mig__> yea then shocker he still dies that night
[10:52] <supers> yep
[10:52] <Mig__> seems bit strange to be a coincidence
[10:52] <supers> i think the original plan could have been like this:
[10:52] <supers> he wanted me to shoot him
[10:53] <supers> and at the same time shoot him himseld
[10:53] <supers> f
[10:53] <supers> lol hard to explain :D
[10:53] <Mig__> yea possible or if you agreed to shoot him he can kill another person
[10:53] <supers> because the scumshot
[10:53] <supers> hits prplhz first
[10:53] <supers> my shot would not count
[10:54] <Mig__> well he maybe trying to manipulate you to waste your shot because you would get it back if that were the case
[10:54] <Mig__> but the thing is thats why he wrote the big analysis
[10:54] <Mig__> so that he was covered
[10:54] <Mig__> if you shot him he is just like oh my bad but look at my analysis I thought he was mafia
[10:54] <supers> hmm
[10:54] <supers> yea but this would have been a bad plan
[10:55] <Mig__> not if he underestimates you and thinks he can manipulate you
[10:55] <Mig__> then he will try and use your powers to kill a townie if possible
[10:55] <Mig__> basically he has wanted you to target 2 townies now
[10:55] <Mig__> I mean shooting curu 1 day after he lynched the pyro? That is just insane
[10:56] <supers> ofc it is.
[10:56] <supers> curu is town
[10:56] <Mig__> yea
[10:56] <supers> this plan i way to complicated
[10:56] <supers> i also talked to curu
[10:56] <supers> a lot
[10:57] <supers> we talked about your roleblock
[10:57] <supers> etc.
[10:57] <supers> i didnt save that log
[10:57] <Mig__> yea
[10:57] <supers> but seriously if he was scum, why would he roleblock you
[10:57] <supers> if curu was scum
[10:57] <supers> these nightkills
[10:57] <Mig__> yea lol there is 0 reason curu would ever roleblock me
[10:58] <supers> would not make sense at all
[10:58] <Mig__> I claimed vanilla to him it makes no sense
[10:58] <Mig__> yep
[10:58] <Mig__> thats a big thing that makes me suspicious of NC also
[10:58] <supers> not only this roleblock
[10:58] <Mig__> because NC just dismissed that point as if it were nothing
[10:58] <Mig__> when it really is important
[10:58] <supers> mhm
[10:59] <supers> do you know who nc really is?
[11:00] <Mig__> 95% sure he is gmarshal
[11:00] <supers> ok
[11:00] <Mig__> is was almost positive he was that before then tnkted confirmed it
[11:00] <supers> what do you think of forumite
[11:00] <supers> i wonder why he survived the night
[11:00] <Mig__> well I think he is probably town he claimed a role to me
[11:00] <Mig__> yea I wonder that as well
[11:01] <Mig__> but he claimed a role that made sense to me
[11:01] <supers> i mean, jackal was muted
[11:01] <supers> but seriously
[11:01] <Mig__> if we survives another 2 days I would be very very suspicious of him
[11:01] <Mig__> if he*
[11:01] <supers> he was no sniper
[11:01] <Mig__> yea
[11:01] <supers> that was obvious
[11:01] <Mig__> but right now I think he is town because he also fake shotted same time as jackal to try and protect him
[11:01] <Mig__> so mafia wouldnt know who to shoot if jackal was real sniper
[11:02] <supers> or
[11:02] <supers> hes scum
[11:02] <Mig__> which is pretty pro town
[11:02] <supers> fakeshottet
[11:02] <Mig__> why would scum do that tho?
[11:02] <Mig__> because scum would think jackal was real sniper right
[11:02] <supers> so noone else tries to protect jackal
[11:02] <Mig__> so they would just laugh and let him kill wbg
[11:02] <Mig__> hm I really think they would just sit back and let it happen
[11:03] <supers> hmm okay
[11:03] <Mig__> but I think he is someone we can worry about a little later because if mafia doesnt shoot or rb him there is something fishy going on
[11:03] <Mig__> but we can let mafia deal with him if he is actually town
[11:03] <supers> yes
[11:03] <supers> thats the reason why i didn't accuse him in the thread
[11:04] <supers> because an accusation delivers a reason not to shoot him
[11:04] <Mig__> yep for sure
[11:05] <supers> hmm okay incognito
[11:05] <supers> i am not sure whether he or NC is the right person
[11:05] <supers> his plan would be really complex
[11:06] <Mig__> I like both as mafia but the extra info that incognito started the whole thing
[11:06] <Mig__> makes me more sure of him
[11:06] <Mig__> because incognito is reallllllly good one of the best players on TL if he is mafia he could easily manipulate others
[11:06] <supers> okay.
[11:07] <supers> i wonder if he really buys my vig claim
[11:07] <supers> lol
[11:07] <Mig__> lol he does
[11:07] <Mig__> he told me he has a blue vig who supports him
[11:07] <supers> hahaha
[11:07] <Mig__> didnt say who but pretty funny that I knew who he was talking about
[11:07] <supers> indeed
[11:08] <supers> okay
[11:08] <supers> i tell him that i am still not convinced
[11:08] <supers> that either he or curu are scum
[11:09] <supers> i ask him out about wbg and NC
[11:09] <supers> i tell him that i think that forumite is town
[11:09] <supers> and who else do we have?
[11:09] <Mig__> k that all sounds good
[11:09] <supers> kenpachi
[11:09] <Mig__> right now
[11:09] <Mig__> ken/nisani are 100% on our side
[11:10] <supers> nisani yes
[11:10] <supers> okay
[11:10] <Mig__> erandorr I am almost positive will vote for us
[11:10] <supers> yes he's german
[11:10] <Mig__> rofl :p
[11:10] <supers> i wrote him a german PM
[11:10] <supers> :D
[11:10] <Mig__> lolol
[11:10] <supers> i got this guy
[11:10] <supers> lol it's a lot easier to manipulate people in german language
[11:11] <supers> it's nearly impossible in english
[11:11] <supers> I can only act naive
[11:11] <supers> and incognito bought it lol

[11:12] <Mig__> lololol
[11:13] <Mig__> ok gonna go get some food and sleep be back after that
[11:14] <Mig__> cya
[11:14] <supers> yep
[11:14] <supers> cu


[20:31] <Mig__> super hello friend!
[20:32] <supersoft> hehe
[20:32] <Mig__> so incog sent this to you?
[20:32] <supersoft> well, i got WBGs logs
[20:32] <Mig__> when did he send it?
[20:32] <supersoft> everything
[20:32] <Mig__> oh wbg gave it?
[20:32] <supersoft> 5 minutes
[20:32] <Mig__> k
[20:32] <supersoft> and i am talking to sevryn right now
[20:32] <supersoft> this guy is so scummy
[20:33] <Mig__> k I am still reading the logs
[20:34] <supersoft> i got some more
[20:34] <supersoft> if you finished that
[20:34] <Mig__> between who?
[20:34] <supersoft> me and sevryn
[20:34] <supersoft> and wbg and incognito
[20:34] <Mig__> k great I will read those also
[20:34] <supersoft> and me and wbg
[20:34] <supersoft> yep
[20:35] <Mig__> ah I notice in this log again gm points out why would incog shoot prpl
[20:36] <Mig__> when wbg shows any doubts in incog
[20:36] <Mig__> gm always comes to his defense lol
[20:45] <Mig__> ok read it all
[20:46] <supersoft> so
[20:47] <supersoft> what do you think about NC
[20:47] <Mig__> you requested chat logs of just nc and incog right?
[20:47] <Mig__> you and wbg both requested those
[20:47] <Mig__> but havent gotten any
[20:47] <Mig__> is that right?
[20:48] <Mig__> because so far nobody has seen those 2 actually talk to each other alone
[20:48] <supersoft> yes
[20:48] <supersoft> thats correct
[20:48] <supersoft> but both of them weren't online since i asked them to post that
[20:49] <Mig__> if incog flips scum and NC cant produce instantly some long long chat logs of them talking
[20:49] <Mig__> I think they are virtually guaranteed scum
[20:49] <Mig__> yea I find that a bit strange
[20:49] <Mig__> that they havent been aruond
[20:49] <Mig__> they go through that huge trouble to write the giant case on curu right
[20:49] <supersoft> mhm
[20:49] <Mig__> now its 3 hours before lynch and they are still missing?
[20:49] <supersoft> and dont support it afterwards
[20:49] <Mig__> like wtf
[20:49] <Mig__> yep
[20:50] <supersoft> if we reduce their KP to 1 today
[20:50] <supersoft> it's over
[20:50] <Mig__> I agree
[20:50] <supersoft> there is no way they can do it with only one kp
[20:50] <Mig__> I feel like they may have gone all out here to try and get curu lynched
[20:50] <Mig__> and now they are kinda giving up
[20:50] <supersoft> yes
[20:50] <Mig__> after it failing
[20:50] <supersoft> if they lynch curu and kill you at night
[20:50] <supersoft> there would have been a chance
[20:51] <Mig__> yep because the 2 most vocal townies gone
[20:51] <Mig__> I bet they think they could just manipulate eveyrone then
[20:51] <Mig__> they already had wbg in their pocket lol
[20:51] <supersoft> yes
[20:51] <supersoft> :D
[20:51] <supersoft> and they got me
[20:51] <Mig__> and you they think
[20:51] <supersoft> the nightvig
[20:51] <supersoft> lol
[20:51] <Mig__> :ppp
[20:51] <supersoft> aka drunk demoman :D
[20:51] <Mig__> if incog flips scum
[20:51] <Mig__> it is over
[20:51] <Mig__> for sure
[20:52] <Mig__> even if he doesnt I think NC then is almost guaranteed scum
[20:52] <supersoft> if not we're in some trouble
[20:52] <supersoft> yes NC and sevryn/forumite
[20:52] <Mig__> well like me/you/wbg/curu I am very confident in really
[20:52] <Mig__> so we have a good core group
[20:52] <Mig__> 1 mislynch wont ruin everything
[20:52] <supersoft> no
[20:53] <Mig__> but really I think incog is scum lol
[20:53] <supersoft> one mislynch is okay
[20:53] <Mig__> so hopefully we dont ahve to worry about this at all
[20:53] <supersoft> yea
[20:53] <supersoft> but like you said
[20:53] <supersoft> it was probably an all-in attempt
[20:53] <Mig__> yea right now that is what I believe
[20:54] <supersoft> 2 hours left
[20:54] <Mig__> 3
[20:54] <supersoft> i'll copy that wbg/incognitologs
[20:54] <supersoft> ah yes
[20:54] <supersoft> 3
[20:54] <supersoft> and eat something etc.
[20:54] <Mig__> ah yea I would love to see wbg incog
[20:55] <Mig__> let me know once those are up
[20:55] <supersoft> 5min
[21:02] <supersoft> okay i copied everything that wasn't too long into the QT
[21:02] <supersoft> and one additional irclog per PM
[21:02] <Mig__> k awesome I am reading it now
[21:02] <supersoft> hf :D
[21:14] <Mig__> super
[21:15] <Mig__> this is AMAZING
[21:15] <Mig__> they thought they were going to be able to bully the thread
[21:15] <Mig__> by threatening vig shots
[21:15] <Mig__> because of you! hahaha
[21:17] <supersoft> :D
[21:17] <supersoft> i juste red it too
[21:17] <supersoft> i can't believe he bought this
[21:18] <supersoft> lol everyone is curious who that mysterious vig is
[21:18] <supersoft> wbg asked me, too
[21:18] <Mig__> rofl
[21:19] <supersoft> that game :D


[20:33] <Curu> about jcarl?
[20:33] <Curu> before posting their case on me
[20:33] <supersoft> no
[20:33] <supersoft> i never talked to NC
[20:33] <supersoft> and incog spammed my inbox a lot
[20:33] <supersoft> i got to look that up
[20:34] <Curu> he never asked you to shoot jcarl
[20:34] <Curu> right
[20:34] <supersoft> no
[20:34] <Curu> right ok
[20:34] <supersoft> btw
[20:34] <supersoft> i talked to wbg and sevryn
[20:34] <Curu> I am like 70% sure NotChez and Incog are Mafia together then
[20:35] <supersoft> wbg gave me all his logs
[20:35] <supersoft> yes
[20:35] <Curu> WBG is most likely Town
[20:35] <supersoft> correct
[20:35] <supersoft> he gave me everything
[20:35] <supersoft> he talked to incognito
[20:35] <supersoft> and NC
[20:35] <Curu> yes
[20:35] <supersoft> i posted some of it in our QT
[20:35] <supersoft> mig is reading this right now :D
[20:36] <Curu> Mig know eveyrthing I know anyways
[20:36] <Curu> lol
[20:36] <Curu> I have talked to him nonstop since the game started
[20:36] <supersoft> i know
[20:36] <supersoft> ^_^
[20:37] <Curu> I am pretty sure you, Mig, Erandorr, WBG, Nisani, Kenpachi, jcarl are all town
[20:37] <supersoft> yes
[20:37] <Curu> if Incog flips scum this game is pretty much over
[20:37] <supersoft> yes+
[20:38] <Curu> but yeah they both tried hard to get jcarl as a lynch
[20:38] <supersoft> we kill sevryn/NC and Foumite
[20:38] <supersoft> and GG
[20:38] <Curu> they questioned a lot of people about jcarl
[20:38] <Curu> oh I think Forumite is Town too
[20:38] <Curu> but htey questioned a lot of people about jcarl
[20:38] <Curu> but somehow didnt want you to shoot him
[20:38] <Curu> they were going to try him as a mislynch if I told them I would rather lynch jcar
[20:38] <Curu> than incog
[20:41] <Curu> the fact that they never asked you to shoot jcarl though
[20:41] <Curu> even though they asked you to shoot everyone else
[20:41] <Curu> and incog has been on jcarl since day 1
[20:41] <Curu> I'm pretty convinced they are both Mafia
[20:41] <Curu> who planned to use jcarl as the mislynch
[20:41] <supersoft> i think so too
[20:41] <supersoft> however trying to lynch you is pretty risky
[20:41] <supersoft> if they both are scum
[20:42] <supersoft> i asked incognito to give me the logs between him an NC
[20:42] <supersoft> if they have no logs, they are pretty much confirmed
[20:42] <Curu> see what I suspected was
[20:42] <supersoft> also sevryn
[20:42] <supersoft> he has no logs at all
[20:42] <Curu> then they are guaranteed to be able to kill Mig
[20:42] <Curu> then with me and Mig gone try to lead the Town themselves
[20:43] <Curu> a lot of conjecture but it could be possible
[20:43] <supersoft> if they shoot both of you,
[20:43] <supersoft> what would be the best move they could do right now
[20:43] <supersoft> ah wait
[20:43] <supersoft> do they have enough KP
[20:43] <Curu> they cant though
[20:43] <Curu> if incog is scum
[20:43] <supersoft> if we lynch incognito?
[20:43] <Curu> they have 1 kp
[20:43] <supersoft> hahaha
[20:43] <Curu> exactly
[20:43] <supersoft> yeah incognito has to die
[20:44] <supersoft> but i think i could lead town to victory from now on. even if you die.
[20:44] <supersoft> i think erandorr and wbg are on my side
[20:45] <supersoft> and i have these huge logs :D
[20:45] <Curu> yep
[20:45] <Curu> the problem isnt how good your reads are though
[20:45] <Curu> the problem is if they kill the more vocal players then they use their reputation
[20:45] <Curu> since you haven't been posting much
[20:45] <supersoft> mhm
[20:45] <Curu> even if you try to lead lynches against them they might be able to convince the derptown members
[20:46] <supersoft> but you know
[20:46] <supersoft> if incog dies
[20:46] <supersoft> there are only 2 scumteammembers left
[20:46] <Curu> yep
[20:47] <supersoft> we can do this. I think they might also kill me
[20:47] <supersoft> incog believes my claim
[20:47] <supersoft> he tells everyone he has a nightvig
[20:47] <Curu> lol
[20:47] <Curu> if Incog dies TOwn's won
[20:47] <Curu> 99.999999%
[20:47] <supersoft> he will die 100%
[20:47] <Curu> if Incog is scum
[20:48] <supersoft> if he's scum
[20:48] <supersoft> if not he played just aweful
[20:48] <supersoft> really
[20:49] <Curu> yeah really really bad
[20:49] <Curu> and he says he's been busy in PM land
[20:49] <Curu> for so long
[20:49] <Curu> lol
[20:49] <Curu> all that time and what he comes up with is that bullshit case on me?
[20:52] <supersoft> yep
[20:53] <supersoft> it was an all-in attempt
[20:54] <supersoft> i am going to copy the wbg/incognitologs
[20:54] <supersoft> and eat something etc.
[20:55] <Curu> kk
[21:02] <supersoft> update in the QT
[21:02] <supersoft> and PM
[21:02] <supersoft> etc.
[21:02] <supersoft> thats a lot of stuff


[22:42] <xtfftc> I am left with the impression that WBG started the Curu thing
[22:42] <xtfftc> but a lot of people seem to consider Curu as confirmed town
[22:42] <supers> he is dead now
[22:43] <supers> and confirmed
[22:43] <xtfftc> not curu
[22:43] <xtfftc> wbg*
[22:43] <supers> ah yes
[22:43] <supers> i don't
[22:43] <supers> i just wait for a slip
[22:43] <supers> i don't trust anyone
[22:43] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> it's basically what I've done in PMs
[22:43] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> I PMed Mig, tnkted, and a few others
[22:43] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> giving them my logs and reads
[22:43] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> when I believed I was about to get shot
[22:43] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> because Jackal and Forumite both ##aimed me in the thread
[22:44] <supers> hm yes
[22:44] <supers> mig was confident, that wbg was town
[22:44] <supers> incognito also
[22:44] <supers> and curu also
[22:44] <xtfftc> that's the thing
[22:44] <xtfftc> I'd say that he is mafia
[22:45] <xtfftc> but a lot of vets think that he is a townie
[22:45] <supers> yes
[22:45] <supers> we have to wait for him
[22:45] <supers> today i'd suggest sevryn
[22:46] <xtfftc> sevryn looks like his typical dumb townie to me
[22:46] <xtfftc> do you have any logs with him to share?
[22:47] <supers> posted them in the thread
[22:47] <supers> yeah he probably is a little bit dumb
[22:47] <supers> :-(
[22:55] <supers> this guy
[22:55] <supers> is too agressive
[22:55] <xtfftc> yep
[22:55] <supers> i want to apologize for his behaviour ;-)
[22:55] <supers> now i remember why we thought that he's town
[22:56] <xtfftc> his behaviour is fine
[22:56] <xtfftc> it's part of the game
[22:56] <xtfftc> why did you think he's town again?
[22:58] <supers> because he's so fucking agressive in irc :D
[22:59] <supers> and i think incognito and NC manipulated him
[22:59] <supers> unfortunately for you
[23:00] <xtfftc> he's been aggressive in the thread from the very start as well
[23:01] <supers> yep
[23:01] <supers> he's probably town
[23:01] <supers> i don't think that he's faking this agressiveness
[23:01] <supers> you know what i mean?
[23:01] <supers> he's probably VT
[23:03] <xtfftc> consider this
[23:03] <xtfftc> wbg is a relatively new player who doesn't have a lot of experience with being mafia
[23:03] <xtfftc> he usually posts A LOT
[23:03] <xtfftc> probably more than anyone else on TL mafia
[23:04] <xtfftc> if he doesn't, he'd attract a lot of attention
[23:04] <xtfftc> so he needs to do something else
[23:04] <xtfftc> he's been playing the same way palmar played in LOTR and Ace's game
[23:05] <xtfftc> he was third party in LOTR and mafia in Ace's, so he wanted to disrupt town in both games
[23:05] <xtfftc> he was posting a lot and was being really aggressive
[23:05] <xtfftc> and now WBG is playing exactly like this.. I wouldn't be surprised if Palmar's been coaching him
[23:06] <xtfftc> the thing that bugs me is that good players who flipped town were sure of his allignment
[23:06] <xtfftc> alignment*
[23:07] <supers> hmm
[23:08] <supers> [23:07] <wherebugsgo> xt I think is town
[23:08] <supers> lol
[23:08] <supers> ^_^
[23:10] <xtfftc> he's probably sensing that I'm onto him and wants to relent me ^^
[23:11] <xtfftc> what do you think of what I just wrote about him and palmar?
[23:11] <supers> it's a possibility
[23:11] <supers> for sure
[23:11] <supers> and if he's scum
[23:11] <supers> you might be town :D
[23:11] <supers> otherwise it looks grim
[23:11] <supers> because i don't think
[23:12] <supers> this incog/wbg/nc connection
[23:12] <supers> was 100% town ^_^
[23:12] <supers> seriously
[23:12] <supers> GM is not stupid
[23:12] <supers> Curu was modconfirmed town
[23:12] <supers> you know
[23:12] <supers> i still think you're scum
[23:13] <xtfftc> tt
[23:13] <supers> sorry dude
[23:13] <supers> nothing personal :D
[23:14] <supers> okay
[23:14] <supers> i got to sleep
[23:14] <supers> sorry :-o
[23:14] <xtfftc> gimme a minute
[23:14] <supers> okay
[23:14] <xtfftc> I just want to find something in the logs
[23:15] <xtfftc> unless I'm imagining it
[23:16] <supers> :D
[23:16] <supers> what do you think about forumite?
[23:17] <xtfftc> nothing yet
[23:17] <supers> k
[23:17] <xtfftc> I'll try to post on everyone tomorrow
[23:17] <supers> think about him!
[23:17] <xtfftc> this is how the log between wbg and gm starts
[23:17] <supers> i won't vote until tomorrow
[23:18] <xtfftc> personwhoPMs is wbg
[23:18] <xtfftc> MrFluffles is gm
[23:18] <supers> ahm w8
[23:18] <supers> yes
[23:18] <xtfftc> Charles Suo is curu
[23:18] <supers> fluffles is GM
[23:18] <xtfftc> and wbg is quoting him
[23:18] <supers> correct
[23:18] <supers> i guess
[23:18] <supers> too tired to check
[23:18] <supers> the names are correct
[23:19] <xtfftc> you'll have th eopportunity to check it
[23:19] <xtfftc> if you want to... I don't imagine even a lazy mafia lying about something like this anyway
[23:19] <xtfftc> I don't really understand this bit:
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:48] <@MrFluffles> again I have no faith in "scumslips"
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:48] <personwhoPMs> Maajid Mohammed Nazrulla [9/29/2011 3:52:08 PM] Charles Suo: it was funny cause everything Kurumi said [9/29/2011 3:52:11 PM] Charles Suo: just made it more and more obvious [9/29/2011 3:52:15 PM] Charles Suo: one of us was mafia [9/29/2011 3:52:27 PM] Charles Suo: threatening to modkill both lol [9/29/2011 3:52:35 PM] Charles Suo: if we were same alignment he wouldn't have said anyt
[23:19] <xtfftc> hing
[23:19] <xtfftc> and then WBG continues with:
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:48] <personwhoPMs> does that
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:48] <personwhoPMs> strike you as weird?
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:49] <personwhoPMs> [9/29/2011 3:52:56 PM] Charles Suo: he basically confirmed me as town [9/29/2011 3:52:58 PM] Charles Suo: to everyone in the irc channel
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:50] <@MrFluffles> yes yes it does
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:50] <@MrFluffles> I like his "emphasis" on "I am town, 100% confirmed"
[23:19] <xtfftc> [03:50] <personwhoPMs> it struck me as weird too
[23:20] <xtfftc> [03:51] <@MrFluffles> scum LOVE that
[23:20] <supers> mhm
[23:20] <supers> man
[23:20] <supers> GM is manipulating wbg
[23:20] <supers> :-(
[23:20] <xtfftc> maybe
[23:20] <xtfftc> this is the very first log I have
[23:20] <xtfftc> and WBG starts the curu thing
[23:20] <xtfftc> tomorrow I'll try to get wbg talking about it
[23:21] <xtfftc> to see if there was something before it... GM told me there was nothing relevant
[23:21] <supers> i got wbgs shit, all of it :D
[23:21] <supers> i got to reread that too
[23:21] <supers> man
[23:21] <xtfftc> and I'll check the dates to see if GM posted anything on Curu before that in the thread
[23:22] <xtfftc> anyway, see you tomorrow
[23:22] <supers> yep
[23:22] <supers> thanks
[23:22] <supers> :-)
[23:22] <supers> cu


[22:34] <wherebugsgo> lol what are you doing
[22:39] <supers> sharing some gems
[22:40] <supers> i got much much much much more
[22:40] <supers> :D
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> LOL
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> oh god
[22:40] <supers> i got a lot of stuff from incognito, curu and mig
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> okay so I'm talking to risk now btw
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> okay good
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> keep it until tonight
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> I'm going to be identifying
[22:40] <wherebugsgo> the scum today
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> and I believe I might be a prime target for tomorrow night
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> but DO NOT
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> establish this in the thread
[22:41] <supers> what
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> I don't want
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> well okay I don't want to be shot
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> but at the same time
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> I don't want mafia to use me as WIFOM
[22:41] <wherebugsgo> risk just claimed drunk demo to me
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> and his PMing with me
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> seems townie
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> so I'll be pushing different lynches all today
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> to see what reactions I get
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> once I get a scummy reaction I will basically push it hard. I have two of you guys I can trust with my logs
[22:42] <wherebugsgo> so I'll send it all to you and the other one I trust
[22:43] <wherebugsgo> if during night phase I think I'll be dying I'll post it all in thread
[23:04] <wherebugsgo> have yo useen sinani recently
[23:07] <supers> no
[23:07] <wherebugsgo> mmm
[23:07] <supers> i am spending my time in the university learning :D
[23:07] <supers> i am here now
[23:07] <supers> ^_^
[23:07] <wherebugsgo> okay. I'm going to try to get the reads out of risk. ATM he's walking the fine line between being absolute dumb town and dumb scum
[23:07] <wherebugsgo> xt I think is town
[23:08] <wherebugsgo> so this leaves sinani forumite sevryn
[23:08] <supers> we kill sevryn today
[23:08] <supers> i think he's a save bet
[23:08] <supers> if forumite survives the night
[23:08] <wherebugsgo> why not Forumite or sinani?
[23:08] <supers> he should be next
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> k I agree on that
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> I'm going to be writing a case on Forumite
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> I won't post it today
[23:09] <supers> because the log
[23:09] <supers> i posted
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> and if I die I need someone else to post it
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> yeah I saw that
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> but
[23:09] <supers> says that forumite claimed something to mig
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> I'll try to see
[23:09] <supers> if he's not scum
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> if he slipped day 1
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> or day 2
[23:09] <supers> they shoot him
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> right
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> if he slipped day 1
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> ah fuck
[23:09] <wherebugsgo> you shouldn't have posted that log
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> they don't have any reason to shoot him still
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> if he's town
[23:10] <supers> they have
[23:10] <supers> don
[23:10] <supers> 't worry
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> lol wat
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> I mean why wouldn't they just shoot you and me
[23:10] <supers> he claimed a powerrole to mig
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> yeah, I know that
[23:10] <supers> they don't shoot you
[23:10] <supers> for sure
[23:10] <wherebugsgo> why is that?
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> why would I not be a target
[23:15] <supers> ahm
[23:15] <supers> because you post very much
[23:15] <wherebugsgo> lol
[23:15] <supers> but unfortunately noone listens
[23:15] <wherebugsgo> lool so true
[23:15] <supers> you posted that curuthing
[23:15] <supers> and switched to incognito
[23:15] <supers> you defended palmar
[23:15] <wherebugsgo> ahahaha
[23:15] <wherebugsgo> okay so do you think
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> scum can paint me
[23:16] <supers> you won't get shot by scum :D
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> as scummy?
[23:16] <supers> ofc they can
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> aight
[23:16] <supers> and they will try to
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> so do you think risk is more likely to be scum
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> and forumite as well
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> because they have been doing that since night 1?
[23:16] <supers> no
[23:16] <supers> the scumteam in my eyes contains
[23:16] <wherebugsgo> okay. let's discuss reasons
[23:17] <supers> xtfftc, sevryn and forumite
[23:17] <wherebugsgo> okay so we disagree on xt then
[23:17] <wherebugsgo> you agree we should give xt some time?
[23:17] <supers> i do
[23:17] <wherebugsgo> alright. atm he's leaning town in the way he's arguing with me
[23:17] <wherebugsgo> but his logic isn't making sense
[23:18] <wherebugsgo> he isn't a fabulous townie by any means so it's not like...telegraphing anything at all
[23:18] <wherebugsgo> risk keeps typing and typing and typing and deleting, then sends me this one line thing
[23:18] <wherebugsgo> that says nothing
[23:18] <wherebugsgo> but from earlier in the convo he sounded super noob so I can't even tell what he is
[23:19] <supers> he's no bad player
[23:19] <wherebugsgo> he's good?
[23:20] <wherebugsgo> [1:27:42 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: I'll do it noq [1:29:01 PM] VictorJarl Engwall [nuke]: btw, do you get what this means? "Scamp the Mute Awkward Cow died to Liberty Launcher." [1:29:39 PM] Maajid Mohammed Nazrulla: no, I think it's just a kill flavor [1:29:53 PM] Maajid Mohammed Nazrulla: mafia killed Scamp last night and I don't think any of the rest of the flavor has any relevance to the game [1:31:22 PM] VictorJarl Engwall
[23:20] <wherebugsgo> oh you talking xt or nuke?
[23:20] <supers> ???
[23:20] <wherebugsgo> when you said "he's no bad player"
[23:20] <wherebugsgo> are you talking about xt or nuke?
[23:21] <supers> xt
[23:21] <wherebugsgo> k
[23:21] <wherebugsgo> is risk new?
[23:21] <wherebugsgo> (also xt in XLIV protted every mafia in a row in endgame...)
[23:21] <supers> yea
[23:21] <supers> that idiot
[23:22] <supers> i tunneled him the whole game long
[23:22] <supers> and he turned out to be medic
[23:22] <supers> lol
[23:22] <supers> he was so scummy
[23:22] <supers> really
[23:22] <wherebugsgo> lol
[23:22] <supers> got to sleep
[23:22] <wherebugsgo> alright
[23:22] <supers> i am so tired
[23:22] <supers> :D
[23:22] <supers> really
[23:22] <supers> :D
[23:22] <wherebugsgo> I'll be on when you wake I think
[23:22] <supers> but xt is scum
[23:22] <supers> :D
[23:22] <wherebugsgo> if yo uhave time to talk then
[23:22] <wherebugsgo> lol we'll see
[23:23] <supers> 7 hours
[23:23] <wherebugsgo> remember he was scummy in XLIV too hahaha
[23:23] <supers> from now
[23:23] <wherebugsgo> k sounds good
[23:23] <wherebugsgo> 9:30 pm for me lol
[23:23] <supers> cu
[23:23] <wherebugsgo> auf wiedersehen
[23:23] <supers> ah
[23:23] <supers> dankeschön
[23:23] <supers> :-D

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[22:25] <supers> erandorr
[22:25] <supers> can we talk?
[22:25] <supers> ah
[22:25] <supers> or still muted
[22:25] <supers> probably
[22:25] <supers> ...
[22:25] == xtfftc [~xtf@77-85-31-112.btc-net.bg] has joined #loonybin
[22:25] <supers> oh hi
[22:25] <supers> nice
[22:25] <xtfftc> scum
[22:26] <supers> ;-)
[22:26] <wherebugsgo> super PM me in here
[22:26] <wherebugsgo> I'm handling 4 convos at once lol
[22:27] <supers> we talk later kek? i need to talk to xtfftc
[22:28] <xtfftc> yep, you'd better talk to me first because I'm going to bed soon
[22:28] <wherebugsgo> rofl
[22:28] <supers> good
[22:28] <supers> you want a private conversation
[22:28] <supers> ?
[22:28] <supers> :D
[22:28] <xtfftc> I've got nothing to hide
[22:29] <supers> ahahaha
[22:29] <xtfftc> and considering that I'm just joining the game
[22:29] <supers> ofc not
[22:29] <supers> :D
[22:29] <xtfftc> it might be better to do it here
[22:29] <supers> okay i dont know how many info you got from GM
[22:29] <supers> about his thoughts etc
[22:30] <xtfftc> absolutely nothing, just the logs/PMs
[22:30] <supers> every log?
[22:30] <supers> i got his logs with wbg, too
[22:31] <supers> i wanna know why he got the impression that curu is town
[22:31] <supers> äääh scum
[22:31] <xtfftc> not absolutely everything, just the ones he thought were good enough
[22:31] <supers> okay
[22:31] <wherebugsgo> rofl our logs
[22:31] <wherebugsgo> are huge
[22:31] <xtfftc> yes they were
[22:31] <supers> who do you think came up with the curuthing first?
[22:31] <xtfftc> GM posted his case on curu in the thread
[22:32] <supers> nonono
[22:32] <xtfftc> I don't have any info on who came up with it first apart from what I read in the thread
[22:32] <supers> they talked about it earier
[22:32] <supers> and posted it in the thread later
[22:32] <supers> incognito gave me this post before they posted it i think
[22:33] <supers> okay so you don't know... :-/
[22:33] <wherebugsgo> xt the logs
[22:33] <wherebugsgo> can answer that
[22:33] <xtfftc> I was hoping to avoid reading them....
[22:33] <xtfftc> brb five minutes, I guess
[22:33] <supers> lol it was a lot of work for me to read through wbgs shit :D
[22:33] <supers> :D:D:D
[22:33] <supers> hey
[22:33] <supers> xtfftc
[22:34] <supers> you can just give that convos to me
[22:34] <supers> :D
[22:34] <supers> i'll read them for you
[22:34] <wherebugsgo> lol wtf
[22:34] <xtfftc> didn't you just say that incognito gave them to you anyway? ^^
[22:34] <supers> no
[22:34] <supers> incognito gave me the post
[22:34] <supers> not the genesis of it
[22:35] <supers> wbg gave me the logs
[22:35] <supers> where he was with them
[22:35] <wherebugsgo> dude the genesis is in the logs
[22:35] <wherebugsgo> lol
[22:35] <xtfftc> which post did incognite give you exactly?
[22:36] <supers> w8 a sec
[22:37] <supers> Think of it this way. Two mafia try to use PM slips to "catch" each other in the thread. This is illegal, so you tell them to stop. one of the mafia keeps pushing it, and says that its not fair to let him live because otherwise he's confirmed town. If you are the host, you are in a tough situation. If you modkill both of them for breaking the rules, then you've pretty much ruined your game, as half the mafia is dead. If you don't modkill anyone, you can't say anythi
[22:37] <supers> Original Message From Incognito: Whoops I thought I sent you something but apparently I didn't. Basically Curu and Forumite are mafia, I'm pretty sure. WBG and NotChezinu are town, I'm in contact with them. An analysis will go up shortly but I need you to shoot Curu tonight. Mig is being manipulated by Curu and refuses to believe that Curu is mafia. Mig doesn't believe that Forumite is mafia, and I think it will be disasterous if this manipulation continues. Pleas
[22:37] <supers> Original Message From Incognito: Hmm all yesterday I was leaning town. He is just way overzealous. I'll keep an eye on him but for right now I'm looking at some of the more lurkerish people. Curu has mysteriously disappeared over the last day, quite a sharp contrast from "parlmar 100% red". What do you think of him?
[22:37] <wherebugsgo> unfortunately all of that shit is wrong now LOL
[22:37] <wherebugsgo> well not all of it persay
[22:38] <supers> yes it is
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> but the Curu/Forumite link
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> is destroyed
[22:38] <supers> fuck
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> which is why we can't really be sure on Forumite
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> well
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> I suppose we can
[22:38] <wherebugsgo> but w/e that's for another time lol
[22:39] <supers> you read the log between me and mig
[22:39] <supers> i posted in the thrad?
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[22:41] <xtfftc> I was kind of following the thread before joining the game
[22:41] <xtfftc> so I've read pretty much everythjing
[22:41] <xtfftc> but at the moment I'm going through it because it's a mess
[22:41] <supers> the thread is irrelevant
[22:41] <supers> :D
[22:41] <supers> we discussed everything in here
[22:41] <xtfftc> yes but I've got to start from somewhere
[22:42] <supers> mhm
[22:42] <supers> i think we had three circles.
[22:42] <supers> of PMs
[22:43] <wherebugsgo> yo xt
[22:43] <wherebugsgo> why should we think you're town?
[22:44] <xtfftc> you have no reason to
[22:44] <xtfftc> I've just joined the game and haven't contributed anything
[22:44] <xtfftc> so I'm basically a lurker
[22:44] <wherebugsgo> right
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> you have around 24 hours though
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> I'm pretty sure lynching you
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> would be extremely stupid today
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> but if you're not 3/4 town to me by the end of today
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> I will push your lynch tomorrow
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> well assuming I'm alive
[22:45] <wherebugsgo> lol
[22:46] <xtfftc> who would you go for if I convince you that I'm town?
[22:47] <wherebugsgo> wtf
[22:47] <wherebugsgo> that's an incredibly scummy question
[22:47] <wherebugsgo> I'll go for whoever I think is most likely to be scum
[22:48] <xtfftc> no, it's not scummy
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> well, yeah it is...lol. think about the scum side to it
[22:48] <xtfftc> you['re basically saying that you'll go for the new player even if it's a 50:50 chance he's mafia
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> no
[22:48] <xtfftc> which is saying that you have no mafia reads at all
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> I just told you I'm not going to lynch you today
[22:48] <xtfftc> wherebugsgo> but if you're not 3/4 town to me by the end of today
[22:48] <xtfftc> <wherebugsgo> I will push your lynch tomorrow
[22:48] <supers> wbg calm down. :D
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> yes
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> I just said
[22:48] <supers> we need to start from the beginning
[22:48] <wherebugsgo> I'm not going to push your lynch today
[22:48] <supers> its 12:3
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> it's 9:3 dude
[22:49] <supers> we did not lose any blues except one medic
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> not 12:3 lol
[22:49] <supers> OH WHAT
[22:49] <supers> 9:§
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> yeah.
[22:49] <supers> fuck
[22:49] <xtfftc> it's 9:3
[22:49] <xtfftc> anyway
[22:49] <supers> D:
[22:49] <supers> lol okay
[22:49] <supers> turbolynch xtfftc
[22:49] <supers> :D
[22:49] <xtfftc> doesn't matter if it's today or tomorrow
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> xt it's a scummy question because if you're scum
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> and I tell you who I would push instead of you
[22:49] <wherebugsgo> you can easily just bandwagon that person
[22:50] <xtfftc> ...and bandwagonning helps me by?
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> I'd rather have your opinions first
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> you can always fake reasons, no?
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> heck
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> that's why people thought NC was scummy
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> he pushed jcarl and forumite and curu in our log
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> and if any of them are town and NC is scum
[22:50] <wherebugsgo> he's basically just probing for whoever me and Incog thought was most likely to be scum
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> then he fabricates a case around that person to get a mislynch
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> it's really good scum play
[22:51] <xtfftc> sure but either way I would have to post thoughts on someone
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> right.
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> I think it's better
[22:51] <xtfftc> if I'm faking them, it'd be easier to challenge me on that
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> if you post your thoughts
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> without me giving you thoughts first
[22:51] <wherebugsgo> so I know they're your OWN thoughts
[22:52] <wherebugsgo> right so imagine it from my PoV right
[22:52] <xtfftc> and I think it'd be nice if you tell me why someone should be at least 75% townie in your eyes to lynch him
[22:52] <xtfftc> when the current ratio is 3:1
[22:52] <wherebugsgo> because you just replaced someone
[22:52] <wherebugsgo> who literally the entire town thought yesterday
[22:52] <wherebugsgo> was #1 scum
[22:53] <xtfftc> if you're town, you'd have reasonable expectations
[22:53] <wherebugsgo> how is that not a reasonable expectation?
[22:53] <xtfftc> you wouldn't expect me to join in and get all mafia
[22:53] <xtfftc> you'd expect me to contribute
[22:53] <wherebugsgo> you have more than 24 hours to establish yourself as town
[22:53] <wherebugsgo> I didn't ask that
[22:53] <wherebugsgo> did I?
[22:53] <wherebugsgo> I asked you to contribute your reads
[22:53] <xtfftc> however, when I see you I see someone who has been in the game from the very start
[22:54] <xtfftc> and wants to use to replacement as an excuse to lurk
[22:54] <xtfftc> the*
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> wtf?
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> what are you even trying to say?
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> I'm not using any excuses
[22:54] <xtfftc> my thoughts precisely
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> ???
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> you're not making any sense dude
[22:54] <xtfftc> (that was for the wtf? ^^)
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> I can't give you reads
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> you just replaced into the game
[22:54] <xtfftc> what it is that you didn't understand?
[22:54] <wherebugsgo> the burden is on you
[22:55] <wherebugsgo> to establish yourself
[22:55] <wherebugsgo> as a townie
[22:55] <wherebugsgo> not on me
[22:55] <wherebugsgo> me giving you my reads doesn't establish your towniness
[22:55] <wherebugsgo> if I think you could be either alignment there's no reason for me to give you my reads at all
[22:58] <xtfftc> okay, so how is this different from what I wrote?
[22:58] <xtfftc> you don't want to post your reads because I just entered the game
[22:58] <wherebugsgo> no, I don't want to give YOU my reads
[22:58] <wherebugsgo> I've given my reads to players I think are town
[22:58] <wherebugsgo> I haven't posted them in the thread because the thread is public and mafia can see it
[22:59] <xtfftc> put yourself in my shoes, would you?
[22:59] <wherebugsgo> would I get reads on players and give them to probable townies?
[22:59] <wherebugsgo> yes
[23:00] <wherebugsgo> would I post them in the thread or in this IRC channel?
[23:00] <wherebugsgo> no
[23:00] <wherebugsgo> well, not until I actually wanted to trap the other scum, that is
[23:00] <wherebugsgo> and that's only useful when you have a case you're sure on.
[23:01] <wherebugsgo> anyway, I'm giving you plenty of time
[23:01] <wherebugsgo> you have all of today and most of the night phase to form your own reads
[23:02] <wherebugsgo> it's not like you even have to find mafia
[23:02] <wherebugsgo> you just have to show to me that you're town and willing to contribute
[23:02] <wherebugsgo> ex. don't do what like half the players in the game have done
[23:07] <xtfftc> dude, I know I have to contribute
[23:07] <xtfftc> but first I have to figure some things out for myself
[23:08] <xtfftc> and so I'm starting with considering everyone as being suspicious
[23:08] <xtfftc> for me, you are not a confirmed townie
[23:09] <xtfftc> and what you said for me applies for you as well
[23:09] <xtfftc> until I consider you to be a probable townie, I'll be reluctant to give you my reads
[23:09] <xtfftc> so put yourself in my shoes, would you?
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> I already answered that question
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> we are not in equal positions
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> you have all those logs
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> and the entire thread to read
[23:11] <wherebugsgo> I don't
[23:12] <wherebugsgo> I did not replace someone who was thought by 90% of the town to be scum
[23:12] <wherebugsgo> and conversely I am not a player who was scummy to the town leaders
[23:12] <wherebugsgo> I have no obligation to give you my reads, you just have to take my word that other townies have them
[23:12] <wherebugsgo> I'm not asking for them now, I'm just saying you need to do it before lynch today
[23:13] <wherebugsgo> which is in 25 hours


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Original Message From supersoft:
probably not :-/ sorry

Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
I'm in class right now. Will you be on in a few hours?

Original Message From supersoft:
can we talk in irc?

Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
I agree that we need a good lynch today. I wanted to pressure risk.nuke for the first part of the day, but it didn't really achieve much.

It is possible that GM was just playing us, but his emotion seemed genuine. I'm leaning town on xt for that reason only. He definitely needs to show up and do something though.

Original Message From supersoft:
sevryn won't tell me who he was in contact with and i need these informations. we need to kill scum today and i dont want to mislynch. we have to work together to achieve this and if someone doesnt work with us, we have lynch him

if he shares his logs, we lynch xtfftc, because i think GM is smart enough for this curuthing