Steve Jobs has died after a long struggle with cancer. - P…
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
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WorkerRush
Canada79 Posts
On October 07 2011 02:58 zoLo wrote: Or the the fact that Steve Jobs died from PC (pancreatic cancer). LOL | ||
kyriores
Greece178 Posts
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Jindo
United States1305 Posts
On October 07 2011 01:13 esperanto wrote: Apple supports open-source. No they don't. Apple has a strict "Iphone Developer Program License Agreement" that every developer must sign before using Apple Sofware. You can read it here to see just how much Apple loves to "support" open-source. In fact thats one of the reason why there are not so many games for apple computers. Apple decided not to go with directX, which is a non-free licenced code. Instead they went with OpenGL which is free, actually alot faster than directX and anyone can work with it. There are not so many games on Mac because developers wants to makes games for Windows. Windows is still the main computer gaming platform. And Apple chooses OpenGL instead of DirectX because DirectX is developed by Microsoft, their rival. Comments in bold. No disrespect to the deceased, but Apple products are overpriced and it pains me to see people paying more for less. | ||
KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
On October 07 2011 03:44 Jindo wrote: Comments in bold. No disrespect to the deceased, but Apple products are overpriced and it pains me to see people paying more for less. This, a hundred times over. | ||
JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On October 07 2011 03:19 FreshVegetables wrote: Brilliant businessman indeed! Funny how media keeps saying that he created trends and culture... not really. Rest in peace! Agreed. Although a great business leads a trendsetting e.g. Coal, Cars, diamonds, whether or not they bring actual value or otherwise (see diamonds xD). Also, I believe marketing under the guise of a culture is something Apple has done very successfully. Doesn't take brilliance to spot =) Personally I'm anti-Apple, but I love Pixar | ||
buhhy
United States1113 Posts
On October 07 2011 03:44 Jindo wrote: Comments in bold. No disrespect to the deceased, but Apple products are overpriced and it pains me to see people paying more for less. Not to mention OpenGL hasn't been competition for DirectX for a while. Apple is the very opposite of open. Even Microsoft is more open than Apple. | ||
MajorProblem
Sweden14 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
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On October 07 2011 03:44 Jindo wrote: Comments in bold. No disrespect to the deceased, but Apple products are overpriced and it pains me to see people paying more for less. This, 9000 times over. You see, the reason for Apple's success is they were able to generate a popularity cult of their products. That is, "If you don't have Apple shit, you're not cool." Seeing as how a lot of teens and young adults just aren't there in the head, it's not terribly difficult to create such a fad. Bingo. You're in business. | ||
brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On October 07 2011 04:07 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: This, 9000 times over. You see, the reason for Apple's success is they were able to generate a popularity cult of their products. That is, "If you don't have Apple shit, you're not cool." Seeing as how a lot of teens and young adults just aren't there in the head, it's not terribly difficult to create such a fad. Bingo. You're in business. Out of the thousands and hundreds of thousands of businesses in the world, Apple is arguably the best or most successful in achieving cult status + elegance of design. Every business in the world would love to have even a fraction of such brand loyalty. You have no idea how difficult it is to replicate such business success in the real world. You think it is easy to create such a solid fad, but it isn't. It takes absolute business genius and vision to be able to do what Steve Jobs did. Name me one other company in the world that is comparable on such scale. You can't. | ||
Carson
Canada820 Posts
On October 07 2011 04:15 oneofthem wrote: so how will apple turn this death into a marketing event. oh wait maybe the wheels are already in motion on that. I know, I remember growing up that M$ was the evil corporate empire that only cared about money. Now Apple is in that position and Bill Gates is known as one of the most generous philanthropists. That said, I hope there is no attempt to profit from this. On October 07 2011 04:17 Tien wrote: Out of the thousands and hundreds of thousands of businesses in the world, Apple is arguably the best or most successful in achieving cult status + elegance of design. Every business in the world would love to have even a fraction of such brand loyalty. You have no idea how difficult it is to replicate such business success in the real world. You think it is easy to create such a solid fad, but it isn't. It takes absolute business genius and vision to be able to do what Steve Jobs did. Name me one other company in the world that is comparable on such scale. You can't. I would say that Nike and Coca-Cola have done something equivalent, although perhaps not as profitably. | ||
josemb40
Peru611 Posts
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EtohEtoh
Canada669 Posts
On October 07 2011 04:07 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: This, 9000 times over. You see, the reason for Apple's success is they were able to generate a popularity cult of their products. That is, "If you don't have Apple shit, you're not cool." Seeing as how a lot of teens and young adults just aren't there in the head, it's not terribly difficult to create such a fad. Bingo. You're in business. pretty much all of Apple's rivals follow apple's fads too, you know, not just teens. Every time Jobs and Apple released a new device, he would change the technology market, companies would change their business plans, create rival products, and are the people running these massive corporations also "not right in the head"? | ||
DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
That doesn't mean he deserves quite the level of deification I've been hearing on the radio today. It's like the media thinks the man was some kind of mixture of Albert Einstein, PT Barnum and Jesus. | ||
relyt
United States1073 Posts
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koveras
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+ Show Spoiler + lol just kidding I am, however, an emotional wreck today, because my mom saw me jerking off while watching porn on my iPad. | ||
Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On October 07 2011 04:24 EtohEtoh wrote: pretty much all of Apple's rivals follow apple's fads too, you know, not just teens. Every time Jobs and Apple released a new device, he would change the technology market, companies would change their business plans, create rival products, and are the people running these massive corporations also "not right in the head"? Uhh I would say they are fine. Not sure why you would think they are not. I'm just pointing out that it's far more often that Apple sells a consumer product because of the popularity cult they've established, rather than their stuff actually being good (especially for cost), adding on to what the original person I replied to said. I find it a bit hard to believe that 50+ year-old nerds (these rivals of Apple) who actually understand what they're buying and things about consumer electronics just buy things because it's "cool", and not because it's something 10x better for its cost (which Apple products are not). The few that actually do so, some do out of preference, some do because they've been using Apple products for decades, but how many will you find that will honestly tell you "I got this because it's the cool thing" ? A negligible number, at best. It's because they actually understand what they are buying, and are at least a bit more mature than the "oh em gee I want this because all the other kids have it and I want to be cool like them". I will say though that the iPod is a decent product, but most other things like their personal computers are just bad, and terribly overpriced. In fact, the only old Mac computer and Mac OS users I've known are from the "old guard" so to speak, whose first computers were the first apple computers. | ||
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